I’ve rarely listened to Ben - he talks too fast and I can’t keep up. But would you put him in the same category as Dan Bongino? He’s another one who took the jab and now regrets it. Although I think he saw the light quite some time ago. It seems that for such a (so-called) intelligent guy, Ben was unusually SLOOW on the uptake. I’m not s…
I’ve rarely listened to Ben - he talks too fast and I can’t keep up. But would you put him in the same category as Dan Bongino? He’s another one who took the jab and now regrets it. Although I think he saw the light quite some time ago. It seems that for such a (so-called) intelligent guy, Ben was unusually SLOOW on the uptake. I’m not saying there’s no forgiveness for that, but should he been listened to as an oracle on medical advice? I don’t think so.
Ben was too fast, too packaged. I rarely listen to these guys. Especially to those who appear to make a god out of 'smart reasoning' whether left or right, or even center. As with Ben, and a whole lot of others of the type, where was the thinking?
The Fake Pandemic showed us that a whole lot of folks really don't think at all. And that Man truly is a herd animal susceptible to lunatic stampeding. Not only this, that Man is also prone to creating false gods (media, government, ideology, and you name it). Without a spiritual rudder, such as Biblical Scripture, Man is pretty much a lost cause left to his own devices and sinful desires unrestrained.
Well said Dave! There were many, including Franklin Graham, who promoted the shots. It boils down to an individual who thinks for themselves, based largely on their core values (spiritual), and life experiences. Example- I as so many others, had already learned to mistrust the medical establishment. And media personalities, left or right are simply a talking head. What they say has zero impact on my decisions. The rush to the cliff (as in lemmings) shows that herd animal aspect.
Ha! Ha! Ha! We got rid of a lot of doctors for strictly following the mandates. We finally found one who did not require mask wearing but urged us to get jabbed up. We asked about this and the guy assured us that he had thoroughly researched all of this out. The shots were safe and effective. I guess the single thing he overlooked was that the entire Fake Pandemic was ... erh, well ... totally cooked up. And I guess he did not stop to wonder where normal flu season went starting 2020. These guys are really pieces of work. (The main reason why we bothered at all is that my wife wanted to get some blood work done.)
No, Bongino was in a special category: someone with cancer. He speaks with great regret that he took the jab but he says that having cancer made the decision much more difficult and bad medical advice under those circumstances didn't help.
Bongino is not the issue; Ben Shapiro has a lot to take issue with and he's not even a quarter down the rabbit hole. He's playing victim. What a lout.
Bongino took the jabs (initial 2 only) due to his medical situation. He never promoted them, encouraged people to get them, or criticized people who didn't. He only ever talked about them as his personal decision and told listeners to make their own decision. Big difference between him and those like Shapiro, or Trump for that matter.
Bongino for several months now has made a major point of saying he now regrets taking the shots and considers it the biggest misjudgement of his life. He says he got caught up in fear due to his cancer and didn't research the shots enough beforehand.
At some point you realize that conservatives have the wrong ideology and that's why they were wrong.
Conservatives largely trust our governmental institutions and federal agencies. They think that the agencies can be redeemed by simply reducing the influences of liberal ideology - the agencies just need some tweaking. I don't know how a conservative knows that global warming is a scam and that NOAA/EPA and federally funded scientists have lied to us about it for over 2 decades but somehow miraculously think this corruption in science/academia wouldn't also occur in medicine and other areas of science, but they do.
The Big Pharma corruption of NIH, CDC, FDA is a situation that plagues all other federal agencies and departments. DC literally is a swamp, and you can't just drain it by replacing some Democrats with Republicans. These agencies and departments have to be eliminated. If you like podcasts, I'd suggest No Agenda.
With the slew of Stasi-FIB raids and arrests, think everyone has woken up to the truth on that front. But we're not there yet on the Big Pharma ownership over related federal agencies.
That's concerning too as we don't have any window on putting a stop to it.
I don't have your optimism on the FBI - nothing will change on that front. We saw the same if not worse in the early 90s (Waco, Richard Jewell) and nothing changed. Maybe a raid on a former president was too much...
You have a really good point on the Big Pharma problem, and it's bigger than that. If you've seen videos on 'Rockefeller medicine', you know it's the entire practice and teaching of allopathic medicine. I think Steve Kirsch and people like him are the solution. There has to be an alternate source for funding and publishing studies. How hard would it have been to get data from private outpatient/primary care clinics to see if people who took HCQ for rheumatoid arthritis or other condition were getting covid to a lesser degree than non-HCQ patients? Is taking vit D more effective at warding off the flu than the flu shot? These studies simply aren't funded. If we have a Steve Kirsch for every Bill Gates, I think things will change for the better over time.
Not optimism so much as a distinction between FIB and the agencies overseen by Big Pharma as it stands.
There is some political will (after November) to tackle FIB. No one solution will happen overnight but IMHO, cutting the funding is what gets their attention. That coupled with a demand that the FIB Dir. resign.
Short of that, I agree on the FIB problem not going away. To start, there must be hearings on the raids and Merrick Garland must be held to account. He must be impeached even if there is no vote for removal in the Senate.
As for Big Pharma, not sure what solution will work when most of Congress is getting cash from their lobbyists.
I’ve rarely listened to Ben - he talks too fast and I can’t keep up. But would you put him in the same category as Dan Bongino? He’s another one who took the jab and now regrets it. Although I think he saw the light quite some time ago. It seems that for such a (so-called) intelligent guy, Ben was unusually SLOOW on the uptake. I’m not saying there’s no forgiveness for that, but should he been listened to as an oracle on medical advice? I don’t think so.
Ben was too fast, too packaged. I rarely listen to these guys. Especially to those who appear to make a god out of 'smart reasoning' whether left or right, or even center. As with Ben, and a whole lot of others of the type, where was the thinking?
The Fake Pandemic showed us that a whole lot of folks really don't think at all. And that Man truly is a herd animal susceptible to lunatic stampeding. Not only this, that Man is also prone to creating false gods (media, government, ideology, and you name it). Without a spiritual rudder, such as Biblical Scripture, Man is pretty much a lost cause left to his own devices and sinful desires unrestrained.
Well said Dave! There were many, including Franklin Graham, who promoted the shots. It boils down to an individual who thinks for themselves, based largely on their core values (spiritual), and life experiences. Example- I as so many others, had already learned to mistrust the medical establishment. And media personalities, left or right are simply a talking head. What they say has zero impact on my decisions. The rush to the cliff (as in lemmings) shows that herd animal aspect.
Ha! Ha! Ha! We got rid of a lot of doctors for strictly following the mandates. We finally found one who did not require mask wearing but urged us to get jabbed up. We asked about this and the guy assured us that he had thoroughly researched all of this out. The shots were safe and effective. I guess the single thing he overlooked was that the entire Fake Pandemic was ... erh, well ... totally cooked up. And I guess he did not stop to wonder where normal flu season went starting 2020. These guys are really pieces of work. (The main reason why we bothered at all is that my wife wanted to get some blood work done.)
Yep, most doctors were running along with the rest of the herd. Thank God there were a few speaking truth!
No, Bongino was in a special category: someone with cancer. He speaks with great regret that he took the jab but he says that having cancer made the decision much more difficult and bad medical advice under those circumstances didn't help.
Bongino is not the issue; Ben Shapiro has a lot to take issue with and he's not even a quarter down the rabbit hole. He's playing victim. What a lout.
Plus, Dan came out against the shots MONTHS ago. He saw it way before Ben did.
And I don't recall ever hearing Bongino encouraging people to get it.
He fought against the mandates from the get-go, to the extent he dared (Cumulus Media?) his company to fire him.
Yes, I was thinking that too. Dan was always in the personal decision camp.
Bongino took the jabs (initial 2 only) due to his medical situation. He never promoted them, encouraged people to get them, or criticized people who didn't. He only ever talked about them as his personal decision and told listeners to make their own decision. Big difference between him and those like Shapiro, or Trump for that matter.
Bongino for several months now has made a major point of saying he now regrets taking the shots and considers it the biggest misjudgement of his life. He says he got caught up in fear due to his cancer and didn't research the shots enough beforehand.
^^^ This ^^^
At some point you realize that conservatives have the wrong ideology and that's why they were wrong.
Conservatives largely trust our governmental institutions and federal agencies. They think that the agencies can be redeemed by simply reducing the influences of liberal ideology - the agencies just need some tweaking. I don't know how a conservative knows that global warming is a scam and that NOAA/EPA and federally funded scientists have lied to us about it for over 2 decades but somehow miraculously think this corruption in science/academia wouldn't also occur in medicine and other areas of science, but they do.
The Big Pharma corruption of NIH, CDC, FDA is a situation that plagues all other federal agencies and departments. DC literally is a swamp, and you can't just drain it by replacing some Democrats with Republicans. These agencies and departments have to be eliminated. If you like podcasts, I'd suggest No Agenda.
With the slew of Stasi-FIB raids and arrests, think everyone has woken up to the truth on that front. But we're not there yet on the Big Pharma ownership over related federal agencies.
That's concerning too as we don't have any window on putting a stop to it.
I don't have your optimism on the FBI - nothing will change on that front. We saw the same if not worse in the early 90s (Waco, Richard Jewell) and nothing changed. Maybe a raid on a former president was too much...
You have a really good point on the Big Pharma problem, and it's bigger than that. If you've seen videos on 'Rockefeller medicine', you know it's the entire practice and teaching of allopathic medicine. I think Steve Kirsch and people like him are the solution. There has to be an alternate source for funding and publishing studies. How hard would it have been to get data from private outpatient/primary care clinics to see if people who took HCQ for rheumatoid arthritis or other condition were getting covid to a lesser degree than non-HCQ patients? Is taking vit D more effective at warding off the flu than the flu shot? These studies simply aren't funded. If we have a Steve Kirsch for every Bill Gates, I think things will change for the better over time.
I have been taking megadoses of Vitamin D since early 2020. Since then, I have had no respiratory infections. No covid, no flu, no colds. Nothing.
Not optimism so much as a distinction between FIB and the agencies overseen by Big Pharma as it stands.
There is some political will (after November) to tackle FIB. No one solution will happen overnight but IMHO, cutting the funding is what gets their attention. That coupled with a demand that the FIB Dir. resign.
Short of that, I agree on the FIB problem not going away. To start, there must be hearings on the raids and Merrick Garland must be held to account. He must be impeached even if there is no vote for removal in the Senate.
As for Big Pharma, not sure what solution will work when most of Congress is getting cash from their lobbyists.