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Diplomats can't stop invading Russians or their missiles or tanks. War is upon Ukraine, whether you like it or not. They are punching well above their weight and when they join nato they will have the most battle hardened and experienced army at fighting Nato's adversary, Russia.

When a man breaks into your house and threatens you, do you roll over and surrender or do you fight back?

Russia doesn't admit Ukraine has a right to exist. They murdered 7 million Ukrainians in one year because of Communism and the fact they hated Ukraine going all the way back to the days of Catherine the "great" and Ivan the terrible.

Russia bombs apartment buildings daily with freedom loving Iran's shahed 136 drones. But the USA is worse? They launch dozens of drones daily.

You can't resolve something with a tyrant. He is determined to get his way no matter what. The 2014 war was ended with a stalemate which led to this.

Would you give up and get a covid shot? Why not? How hard would you fight? Negotiate. Instead of taking 2 shots with a booster, just go for one 2 shot series. Right?

Now imagine someone's national identity and nation and their very survival.

Putin is to blame for this and his empire building, not Ukraine.

I've been following the "Current thing" since 2014 when the Ukrainians overthrew their Russian puppet.

I'm willing to go, I just need a set of orders and a plane ticket.

After 13 years in the military and 2 mobilizations I'm still a funny, happy guy :).

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Politico Phil's avatar

"Current thing"....

Clearly, you are simply an extension of the ethnic wars that have been going on over there for thousands of years and the very reason America has no business getting involved there, then, now or ever. You can stay in your corner where you can't harm anyone and whine about getting revenge on the Russians all by yourself. No thanks.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I’ve been following the “current thing” since before Covid was even a word in your vocabulary.

It was the “current thing” for me in 2014 as I watched the Ukrainian people overthrow their Russian oppressors.

We have business getting involved as it threatens our allies.

You know, the same ones who went to Afghanistan and Iraq with us.

You may be the kind of person to abandon someone who helped us during our time of need but I am not.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Oh, you mean the "forever war" in Afghanistan and the war about WMD's that didn't exist in Iraq....oh, yeah, I remember. Two wars to continually drain the wealth of the American people and money-laundry it back to the elites. These are not my allies. They are the allies of the imperial USG of which you are a part. You have simply illustrated my point that you are an extension of the ethnic tribal wars that have been going on in Europe for thousands of years. Americans want no part of it.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Americans actually support aid to Ukraine, that’s a bi partisan issue.

Yes, Iraq did have WMDs. They found some chemical shells. Do your own research. The Kurds in the north didnt gas themselves.

Let’s make Ukraine pay us back for the aid, let’s put them into nato 😉

Remember during hurricane Harvey tnose helicopters with the weird signs on the sides? Those were Singaporean helicopters. They’re huge friends of the USA.

Yes, Ukraine is an ally of the USA. You can stick your head in the sand but facts don’t care about your feelings.

Next you’ll tell me the Covid shot is safe and effective

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Politico Phil's avatar

I got a better idea. Get rid of NATO and the USG get out of the empire business. You remind me of a girl friend I once knew. She was always saying she doesn't lie. When you have to repeat something continually that's prolly a good indication that the opposite is true. Your constant assertion that you have all the facts belies the truth.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Nato exists for a reason-to protect it's member states from Russia. It has only been activated once and that was to protect the USA on 9/12/01.

If the Us government was in the empire business we would be making Iraq a 51st state. Same with numerous other nations. I mean, like Russia does. After all, they ran a "referendum" where the citizens "Chose" to be apart of Russia. That's how empires are made. That's not what the USA is doing.

If I have to repeat something maybe you should listen the first time.

Watching Russian trolls slowly change their tune has been hilarious.

February 24th: Russia strong!

May 24th: Russia made a gesture of goodwill and gave Zmiinyi island back to Ukraine.

October 10th: Russia still stronk, withdrew (ran) from Kharkiv, but the real Army is coming soon, russia stronk, putin stronk

The full circle has been glorious. It's the circle of life.

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Politico Phil's avatar

NATO existed to counter the USSR. The whole reason for NATO's existence ended with the fall of the Berlin Wall. For the elite, NATO is an extension of the USG empire.

"If the USG was in the empire business..."?? Seriously expect anyone other than a moron to believe that? In one statement, you have demonstrated your complete ignorance and lack of understanding of history.

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