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Well, right.

But, I mean, at the moment of encountering someone who sincerely believes that they ARE safe, effective, and being proffered out of love for humanity…. I am not saying there is no counter to their argument. I am saying that invoking the name of Jesus rapidly squelches discussion.

Kind of like the person who says, “well, God is telling me to marry Joe.” Well, okay. But if we know that Joe is a Satanist, and we also know that God said don’t join light and dark, then maybe we can discuss whether it is really God telling you to marry Joe, or your own (bad) reasoning.

Those discussions were not permitted in many Christian groups, however.

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