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Dan's avatar

DeSantis won by a zillion votes and most (if not all) of Trump's candidates lost. It's time -- dude needs to step aside.

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Janet's avatar

He hurts the cause. Most divisive politician (?) in my long life. I know too many who suffuse their very existence and daily life with hate for trump and it oozes out into their surrounding families and friends. And their stunted decisions. Everything is seen in the light of Trump hate. I see it. My sister is captured by it. It’s real and a real reason added to the many others that continue the conflagration that Covid remains. He needs to be marginalized. IMO.

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Copernicus's avatar

More divisive than Obama? Than Biden?

Those guys just cloak their divisive words in smooth speech, words that drip honey.

Here is what I wrote this morning to a friend:

Well, you think the former Vice President is any better?!

Yelling at the unvaccinated, telling them they are all going to die? Calling citizens who want to have freedom to live without fear of government coercion and intrusion threats and terrorists?

You may not like Trump. There are things to not like about him. He is a sinner. But a lot of us really liked secure borders, freedom of speech and press, $2 gallon gasoline so we can heat our homes and drive when/where we need to, and enough money left after paying bills to be able to afford groceries. Oh, and not having queers and perverts routinely appointed to the highest levels of government.

The former VP needs to be put in a home for dementia patients. And Obama needs to go away with Pelosi and their ilk to self-destruct or create their own utopia on some uninhabited island - however it is that their policies work out. Ditto w Fowchi, but only after he has been appropriately injected with all of the recommended boosters of his spike protein. Actually he can go hang out with his commie buddies in China. See how he likes lockdown Shanghai-style.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I truly believe DeSantis is being weaponized against Trump. The GOPe would rather lose in 2024, with all the horror that implies, than see Trump re-elected.

I believe this election business is currently planned and manipulated across the nation. Winners and losers are chosen. If you have the audacity to run for office outside the blessing of the Uniparty, you will fight both branches. Almost impossible to win. Trump is a huge embarrassment to them for beating them at their own game.

DeSantis says the right things. So did George W. Bush, then he went on to be Barack Hussein Obama’s “brother from another mother.” Bush actually said that!

And did absolutely nothing to advance conservative values after the electorate gave him the presidency and BOTH houses of Congress in 2004.

I knew then that we were in grave danger ⚠️

But I’m sure the Bushes are all quite well off, getting their ‘fair’ share of the plunder, and all. Those on this side of eternity don’t seem to have any regrets. Has DeSantis been offered a ‘fair’ share? The temptation must be immense. How many people could resist that level of fame and fortune if Satan took them to the mountain top and said “All this can be yours!”

We had wiggle room two decades ago, people moved on and the moral erosion continued unnoticed by most. It can’t be unnoticed any longer. Netflix is not that narcotic.

Judgement is upon us.

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Politico Phil's avatar

"George Bush said the right things." Whatever. Bush and his family are part of the parasitical, privileged elite and always has been. DeSantis is not. They are not comparable. Bush was a phoney that anyone should have seen because he was cut from the elitist bolt of cloth. DeSantis comes from the same bolt of cloth we come from. Huge difference.

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CMCM's avatar

W came from a rich, privileged political dynasty. DeSantis is from the working class despite having a good education.

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Politico Phil's avatar

"When people ask me who should come in after Trump, my answer is simple…. Show me the economic nationalist. If there isn’t another one,… well, what does that tell you about the Republican party?"

Willing Spirit and Jeremiah, I have not been agreeing with your contention but it is plausible. And the above question from your referenced article is a very good question. But that's not the only question.

To me, DeSantis is an outlier - like Trump. Based on his background and observation, I judge him to be a patriot of strong character. He's not a professional politician like the rest of the GOPe and neither is Trump. Both he and Trump have to tread through acres of landmines to negotiate their path. Bottom line, when push comes to shove, I think Ron is the type of character that would sooner take a political bullet than compromise his patriotic principles to the American people.

As I've posted before, I like to envision the Don and Ron coming together to form a joint ticket. Surely, no one in the establishment, blue or red, would like that which is exactly what we need. I don't have the ability to judge the source of his funding but I have to believe there are a couple of patriotic billionaires out there somewhere. Kind of a Atlas Shrugged moment.

Or I could be wrong - again.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Let me add a simpler observation. Everyone, almost without exception, in public life is only out for themselves. When you look at all the gov't officials and all the politicians in power from the White House on down, it's like a feeding frenzy of leeches on the hapless American citizenry stuck in the mud of the swamp. "Politicians as a professional class" has lead to the destruction of this country. They are draining the life blood out of the American middle class and destroying the American culture.

I do not believe DeSantis is in it for himself. He is in it for the future of his children and the American people. He is a patriot who understands history and he understands our heritage of American liberty as embodied in our founding documents and American law. Trump likewise sees the contrast of our heritage and what is happening today. And he has connected to the American people that are dying from the leeches in the swamp. That is what MAGA is all about.

I have read all the grousing here about Trumps abrasive language and how he needs to be more accommodating of peoples feelings. To hell with that! This is exactly why we are continually losing. The patriotic conservative movement continually allows the opposition to intimidate us and set the terms of the debate. We are always in reactive mode rather than proactive mode. It is time to stand up and call them out for EXACTLY what they are in clear, bold descriptive language in all of it's traitorous perversion. It is time to take the gloves off and put on the brass knuckles. I don't care if wishy washy people are offended. We don't need them. We have the right cause and the traitorous actions of the Bolsheviks need to be called out for what they are. The point will come when the people in the middle will have to make a choice. Let's be clear what this war is all about.

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Peace's avatar

Do tell, what does the lowercase "e" stand for when you write GOPe?

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Politico Phil's avatar

I think it means establishment based on the way I've seen it used.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, et al, say and tweet boxcar loads of nasty, divisive language. Why does anyone think Trump owns that?

They think that because the almighty media demons tell them that’s the case.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well said, Copernicus. I hate always hearing how Trump is “so polarizing” and yet there is little acknowledgement of all of the divisive things the Democrats have said and done. And how THEY have impacted people’s lives negatively. It is the usual double standard.

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NAB's avatar

It is well-said, but what Janet said is true too. A lot of people are not rational when it comes to Trump.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes. That is also true.

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CMCM's avatar

It is pretty much true that what the Dems say about the Republicans is what the Dems themselves are actually doing or plan to do. It has become amusing to watch them do it all the time.

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Janet's avatar

Yup.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Jesus inspired such hatred that they crucified Him. The human race conspired to kill God because of hatred. If you think hatred began with Donald John Trump and will end with his end, please, think again.

People need to examine themselves in regards to what they hate and why.

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Janet's avatar

Of course. I’m a God fearing woman. 74. Seen hate. Been hateful. Not sure how you extrapolated this by my observation of others related to trump. He is the current topic. I don’t hate him. I kind of feel sorry for him but I need not defend my position with you. Only God and my Savior. Blessings my friend.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And blessings to you. The Truth is the Truth and always will be the Truth. Dressing it up and watering it down to make it more palatable to those who will not see will not change the Truth and its consequences in the least.

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Lincoln's avatar

Got this from my friend in Illinois...When you can't afford food, or fuel, have no heat, and the crime is such that you have to stayed locked in your home, will Trump's personality really be the thing that is still of first importance to you?

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Copernicus's avatar

Bingo. 💯💯💯

Trump is no worse than the others. He just speaks more like plainly without all the political speak. He says what many ordinary people are thinking.

None of his rude tweets ever had the world on the brink of nuclear disaster.

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NAB's avatar

We can all see this, but for some people, the answer to the question in Connie's comment is a resounding "YES." These people are irrational even to the point of voting against their self-interest. It is cult-like behavior.

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NAB's avatar

It is real. And it's strange. I don't get it. I mean, I have NO love for Obama or Biden, but they don't consume my every thought. I know too many for whom I cannot say the same about Trump. They live and breath Trump hate 24/7.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I think we all need to read Luke 12 with some discernment and wisdom.

"...Do you suppose that I came to give peace on earth? I tell you, not at all, but rather division...

"...Hypocrites! You can discern the face of the sky and of the earth, but how is it you do not discern this time?..."

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Joe Karlovich's avatar

That's not even close to being true. 174-9. Did he lose some close races? Sure but a majority of his candidates won.

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M VARR's avatar

He can't beat FRAUD!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Lying liars lie🤷🏻‍♀️. The hopelessly naive double-minded rabble believe them.

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M VARR's avatar

True!

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Janet's avatar

For the total seats only I hope they did.

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VeryVer's avatar

Trump needs to just fade away I'm sorry to say. His presence only helps Dems because they will happily cheat to "beat" him.

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FedUpDeb's avatar

They’re like crack addicts. They had a taste of cheating and are hooked. They’ll never stop now.

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VeryVer's avatar

Yeah. It' so easy to cheat these days -- especially if the election "officials" are the ones doing it.

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Lincoln's avatar

Amen to that. Watch Mike Lindell on free speech.com if you truly want to know about Democrat voter fraud. Unbelievable.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I’m not willing to write off President Trump yet. The fact remains that his America First policies worked. He is a self made billionaire and less easily corrupted like so many in the swamp. He was up against a powerful political witch-hunt from the day he announced his candidacy and is still enduring persecution today. Did he make some mistakes? Yes, all presidents do. The 2020 election was stolen from him and that’s a bitter pill for many of us to swallow. The Deep State wants to anoint their controlled opposition candidate and President Trump is not their choice. I’m trusting in Almighty God, the one and only true God, with the future of our nation.

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Lincoln's avatar

Agreed. I’ll take the mean tweets, braggadocio, and narcissism for four more years of DJT. He will be smarter about who he appoints in key jobs and will continue to beat back the swamp as he FIGHTS for US. He does not need to do this. Thank God for his big ego and fighting attitude…otherwise he would have folded years ago. And hopefully…prayerfully…someone will take his phone away from him!!! GO TRUMP!

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Politico Phil's avatar

LOL..I would like to see someone try.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And that’s the reason they cheat? You want to make a ‘scapegoat’ out of President Trump? How courageous 😖

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Fla Mom's avatar

I've tried to 'like' several of your comments up-thread, and they won't 'take,' whereas a 'like' of another person's comment did. At any rate, 'plus 1' on several of yours, though I'm still hopeful that the notion of DeSantis being groomed by the UniParty Swamp RINOs is false.

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Peace's avatar

I have the same issue with likes not taking. I think it only happens in sub comments - if you like the original comment you should be able to like the sub comments as well.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes and sometimes the likes appear a minute or two later.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I've noted that, too, so I had waited, but nothing. Then when I liked a comment down-thread, it worked instantly, so I went back up-thread, but no.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yeah sometimes it doesn’t seem to work no matter what you try.

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RunningLogic's avatar

It’s always possible he’s using THEM rather than the other way around?

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Fla Mom's avatar

Let us pray.

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Lincoln's avatar

Right, Willing Spirit...When the folks can't afford food, or fuel, have no heat, and the crime is such that they have to stay locked in your home, will Trump's personality really be the thing that is still of first importance? When we lose the only President who has the courage to call out those who want socialism or communism...they’ll wake up. Too late.

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Politico Phil's avatar

They cheat because that is what woke Bolsheviks do.

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Lincoln's avatar

Do you think they will treat DeSantis any better?

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Julie Ann B's avatar

No, anyone who poses a threat to their Marxist ideology and their WEF alliance will be treated just like they’ve treated Trump. But there is also “controlled opposition” which they had with the Bush’s and they “allowed” them to hold office just to make it look like a fair election but in reality they were never going to challenge the Deep State because they were part of it. Trump is not. Hopefully they’re not grooming DeSantis to be controlled opposition which usually involves a lot of money and sometimes compromising them in a way that they’re beholden to them.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Exactly right. That's what Marxists do. The Bush family were not controlled opposition. They and all the elite families that control this country are all members of the same deep state. DeSantis does not come from that cabal. He is an outlier.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

They will happily cheat to beat any one to stay in power!

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Colorado Mom's avatar

YES. Go away, Trump.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Not. Happening.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Not. Happening.

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lynn's avatar

makes you think he does it on purpose for the left...............

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Mazel Lee's avatar

I’ve wondered that on occasion, but on the other side of this are the people who only trust a Trump endorsement, and there are A LOT of them.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Plenty of Trump rally videos on YouTube. The streaming channel, RSBN, films all of Trump’s rallies.

Anyone who hasn’t seen or been to one owes it to themselves to examine this historical phenomenon.

When President Trump visited India, a rally was held for him that filled a 100,000 seat stadium. People underestimate him to their own peril.

DeSantis will be committing political suicide if he goes against Trump in 2024.

His ‘DeSanctimonious’ ads will come back to bite him. Such a blatant lack of humility. “God made a fighter!” A lot of people claim to have a Trump endorsement. DeSantis claims he’s endorsed by God.🤔

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Politico Phil's avatar

Trump was asked on the golf course, "...are you going to compete with Gov DeSantis?" Trump responded, "I know he's a nice man and I like him." Or maybe he said, "No he's a nice man and I like him." I'm not sure. When she asked him again, he wouldn't give her an answer. I think that speaks volumes.

I have not seen anything that indicates these two are not working together. These are extraordinary times. This is not the usual competition between the 2 wings of the uniparty for the White House. This is a war to the death between the Bolsheviks who took the reigns of power by fraud and those who are fighting for life and liberty. I firmly believe Trump and DeSantis understand this and that's what they are in the fight for. The only chance they have of winning this war is if they work together. There's a reason Trump moved to FL.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cjdYdw2AXsE

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Politico Phil's avatar

I think you are assuming to much to think that DeSantis plans to run against Trump.

I had to go listen to the ad "God made a fighter" as I had not seen it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8jz7Cwjo3c

I think that was a sincere expression of belief and purpose. As a Christian our belief is that God made all of us and he made each of us with purpose. His ad is simply an expression of this belief given the circumstances he providentially finds himself in. And yes, it is a divisive ad because woke Marxists hate the Christian faith and will react violently to it as attested to by the vitriolic language already seen in reaction.

You are not going to agree with me if you are one of those people that reacts negatively to any Christian rhetoric. I don't know. But this is something to think about. Listen to the ad again with the assumption someone is simply stating their personal belief and see how it sounds.

Politically, I think this ad took courage. DeSantis is clearly conveying the message that he is going to fight for us.

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Peace's avatar

I agree with your stance on this one!

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Christy's avatar

I think next week he’s making a “huge” announcement.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

November 15.

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