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Julia C's avatar

Katherine - I agree, well said. But even without them adding it to the schedule, everyone definitely needs to look at the current shots already recommended and think long and hard about whether they ever want or need to get any of them ever again. I can tell you, as a former nurse who spent over a decade giving thousands of these shots to people and getting basically whatever my doctors told me I “needed” because either it was on the schedule, or because I have multiple chronic disorders and am immunocompromised, I just never questioned anything but I sure don’t make that mistake now! Because I am on immunosuppressive therapy, I actually used to get two flu shots a year, one in October and one in January. I was never told I didn’t mount a normal response to vaccines and wouldn’t be fully protected, nor that the flu vaccine isn’t actually that effective to begin with. It can only be 20%, at best 50% and that’s in a healthy person. So I was basically pumping myself with two of these shots a year for little to no benefit at all. Never again! I also discovered that America is the only place in the world pumping people with a tetanus shot every 10 years. It’s not even on the adult schedule in most other countries. OHSU did a study in 2016 that said we should revise the schedule to 30 years. They stated it it’s not needed that often and also would save the US approx. $1 billion dollars in healthcare costs over 4 years. Obviously nothing was done with their research and nothing will be done because, clearly…💰💵💰💵. But I’m certainly done with TD shots.

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Janet's avatar

My grandkid was injured substantially by the HPV. neurological damage. OCD, ADHD, mild Tourette’s, thoughts of harm. Now she is transitioning to a boy. Did not the counselors think this could be an outcome of the mental damage? I know now they are in on it now— woke snd for the $$$$$. I can’t say anything to the parents. Just watch and pray no further damage happens. 🙏🏻🙏🏻

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M2's avatar

Sorry to hear about your grandkid. I am more thankful everyday that I declined those shots for both my kids. Also, thankful everyday that now that they are adults, they were smart enough to side with their mother against the jabs and trust their own immune systems!!

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Julia C's avatar

Janet - so sorry to hear that. I am very familiar with the reputation of the HPV vaccine, especially as someone who has POTS and IBD. It’s been well known to cause onset of neurological disorders, as well as cases of Crohn’s and ulcerative colitis. The doctor who wrote this was just awarded ‘Doctor of the Year’ at this years Dysautonomia International Conference. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24102827/

My sister has two girls and they absolutely did NOT get that shot. There was multiple reasons but, especially with our extensive family history of genetic, autoimmune, and neurological disorders, no way!

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AngelaK's avatar

Please can someone tell me what to advise my daughter to do as far as vaccines for her baby due in two weeks, and will be 3 weeks early and lower birthrate because of that. (placental issue).

She lives in the horrible state of Ct. I told her to not allow hepatitis vaccine for newborn. Am I right? She and her brother didnt get them until they were 12.

Also I told her to have a comparison graph of her vaccines 1986 and then 2022. and to try to have doctor abide by that protocol and to have him space apart as much as he can.

Is choosing even an option?

I am so worried.

Thanks for any suggestions.

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WriterMomof4's avatar

Suzanne Humphries’s book Dissolving Illusions is a must-read! Unfortunately, when it comes to family, you have to offer the facts and pray they choose to do their own research. Far too many feel that it isn’t a big deal, or aren’t willing to deal with constant pressure - doctors, daycare, schools, friends, even churches and such. Check out Del Bigtree’s show and website - The Highwire - he goes pretty in depth on vaccines too.

Like someone else said, this is a huge rabbit hole - more like a rabbit warren, or one of those massive underground ant kingdoms - where you have to be willing to dig, and research, and ultimately make truly informed choices (something western medicine fails to actually provide). And nearly always that will include finding “alternative” practitioners to provide actual *health care* for your family.

The biggest, most important thing I wish someone had told me when I started questioning vaccines for my kids and looking into them, is there is no reason to start vaccinating a child before you feel you have made the uncoerced choice to do so, being fully informed. You can always vax a kid later. You cannot unvaccinated them, a lesson I learned the very hard way.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Look up Dr Kevin Stillwagon's substack. He's doing a multi-part series about childhood and other vaccines. It's difficult to believe, but NO childhood vax has EVRR been trialed against a true placebo. They are trialed against other approved vaccines, so if they're "as safe" as the others, they get approved. The problem with that is the followup on these trials is as short as 3-4 DAYS, but none have been observed for even a year. So, it's quite easy for them to not blame any true vax injury on a vax due to these short follow-up periods! The corruption in this process is maddening!

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Eli's avatar

Wow. Thanks for recommending this substack.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

You're welcome!

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Sydney Seppo's avatar

In this video, the doctor from Oregon who has a lot of unvaxxed pediatric patients talks about hep b vaccine. I think he wrote a book on childhood vaccines. The same doctor has a channel on children's defence fund site.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/jclS4HVslP6g/

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Julia C's avatar

Yes! It was this study Dr. Thomas did in his practice that I was referring to in my comment above. I had thought it was 15 years and it looks like it was actually 10. I saw it shared in a slightly different video but it was the same presentation/slides of that study, ‘Relative Incidence of Office Visits and Cumulative Rates of Billed Diagnosea Along Axis of Vaccination.’ It’s all extremely fascinating to me not only as a former medical professional but also as a chronic disorder patient. I was born with a genetic connective tissue disorder and also had other complicated family genetic phenotype involved and I am convinced childhood vaccines, even the more limited schedule of the early 80’s was not a wise idea to pump into my system. Very promptly into my teens I developed Crohn’s disease, and now I also have Dysautonomia/POTS and Mast cell disorder.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes. I refused that for both my boys, it’s totally unnecessary in the vast majority of cases. Hep B is what they give at birth and it can only be contracted through bodily fluids so drug addicts and sex workers are most at risk. But most nurses and doctors won’t tell you that of course.

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Eli's avatar

There was a very well designed research study that I read several years ago where the researchers simply compared the autism rates for kids who got the hep B at birth versus kids who got the hep B. 3 months or so later. There was very statistically significant higher rates of autism in the vaccinated at birth group. sorry, I don’t have the reference but certainly waiting a little while should be easy to talk folks into.

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Julia C's avatar

Eli - I really wish I could remember where I saw it, I may actually have the video saved somewhere but, I had watched a video about a general practitioner who actually did a real world experiment in his own practice over I believe about a 15 year span. He actually compared the vaccinated patients with the unvaccinated patients and basically counted the number of office visits they had and for what reasons they were being seen over the years (i.e. ear infections, colds, pain, autoimmune disorders, gastrointestinal symptoms etc.) and the results were pretty staggering. The unvaccinated patients were basically the healthiest in the practice who seldom were seen for anything other than a yearly physical if they wanted to. I don’t think it’s any secret that the younger generations who have been getting more and more added to their vaccine schedules as the years go by are having higher rates of diagnoses such as autism and attention deficit disorders, autoimmune disorders, food allergies, etc. There’s definitely more than just vaccines contributing to these issues but, I believe they are a large portion of the problem.

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Eli's avatar

Yes! I have seen an interview with and read about this doctor. His results are very definitive. Apparently, he has had his license threatened of course. I have one totally unvaccinated grandchild and one vaccinated grandchild, (but not for Covid thank God) and the unvaccinated child is so much healthier it’s not even in the same ballpark.

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Julia C's avatar

Yeah I believe he had already had his license threatened many a time before the study, and after he released these results the state of Oregon actually pulled his license. Evil. Obviously if he had released the results the opposite way around and stated that the vaccines were making his patient population healthier, they would have applauded him because clearly people being healthy is good news. But in this case the medical board, fellow peers, society, etc. were actually mad that he was reporting people were staying healthy! That’s when you know there’s conflict of interest towards protecting vaccine uptake at any and all cost. As I said, evil.

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Julia C's avatar

Angela - it’s definitely a very in depth topic. I’ve researched a lot and have gone down so many rabbit holes and sourced so many places to remember them all now would be difficult for me. I found a good person to follow who keeps all the information together is on Instagram, @thenaturalmindedmomma. She also has a Facebook group by the same name. Mom’s on there absolutely have chosen no to the Hep B vaccine at birth. Lots of nuanced discussions about vaccines on there, however it’s done by bypassing trigger words that can get your group flagged. I believe it’s Dr. Green Mom, but she is the one who has resources to help parents find “vaccine friendly” doctors, meaning doctors who will accept parents choice or help do adjusted scheduling if that is what parents want.

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RunningLogic's avatar

This is from a website focused on hepatitis, with regard to transmission of Hep B

Sex with an infected partner

Acquired at birth from an infected mother

Sharing injection drug equipment (including needles, syringes, cookers, drug-preparation equipment)

Contact with blood or open sores of an infected person

Needle stick or other skin puncture

Sharing items such as glucose monitors, razors or toothbrushes with an infected person.

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Gabriella's avatar

Can you direct me to the best article, if you know of one, that tells of efficacy and harms of flu shots? I myself have never had one (60 years old) nor my husband. Never took one because I have never had flu my whole adult life. But my daughter takes them because pediatrician said she should have them because she has asthma, but only from allergies from pet dander, which she avoids by taking antihistamine when needed and has inhaler if needed. But now from everything I’ve learned since start of this plandemic, I am trying to convince her to not take it anymore. My husband also has pet dander allergies and yet he never gets flu shot and he has been fine. TIA if you can direct me to a good article.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

No articles to share, but I used to get flu shots every year only because I hate to get a cold so I know I would absolutely HATE getting the flu. I heard/read some time ago that the senior dose had some nefarious ingredients in them pointing to reducing immunity and the need for more and more shots. IDK and I never investigated fully. I just decided I wouldn’t get the senior dose - over 65. I would be urged to get the senior dose because “I’m eligible”. I declined and said I’ll do just fine with the standard dose. Never got the flu. HOWEVER, I will never ever get another flu shot. I don’t trust them anymore. Vitamins are my best friend.

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M2's avatar

My parents doctor just recommended against the flu shot for them. They are 85. Maybe there still are good doctors out there.....

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Julia C's avatar

M2 - while I don’t think any of my doctors would be this honest, I will say that these past two years that I have been declining the flu shot none of my doctors seem to be all that concerned or care that I’m not getting it. You’d think if they were that horrified that my chronically ill, immunocompromised self was not going to “protect myself” they’d have offered much more vocalized objections but, nope, not much a word. A couple tried a slight COVID jab guilt trip or subtle sarcastic undertone in my office notes but, most just accepted that I was not interested in getting it with my anaphylaxis and mast cell disorder.

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Gabriella's avatar

Yes, on vitamins. I have been taking multivitamin since high school and have added in many others about 10 years ago. My best friend also.

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John Bugni's avatar

Hendrick, see my above comment

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Peace's avatar

The senior dose is actually a higher dose: Fluzone High-Dose Quadrivalent contains four times the amount of antigen as the regular dose flu vaccine. As we get older, our immune systems have a harder time fighting off infections and learning from vaccines. The higher amount of antigen in the high-dose flu vaccine helps an older adult’s immune system better recognize and react to the vaccine.

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John Bugni's avatar

There are no good vaccines. Read the book "Dissolving Illusions" by Suzanne Humphries and you will realize all vaccines are a scam. They DID NOT eliminate childhood diseases. And they are ALL harmful. We have been duped and manipulated. The videos in the post below will probably give you the same perspective.

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Julia C's avatar

I have been working my way through this book. 👍🏻

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Julia C's avatar

Gabriella - Now, let me preface this by saying that I am not by any means encouraging you to necessarily share this particular article with your daughter and I’ll explain why. While the data they shared about the efficacy may be accurate, it’s from CDC MMWR who are clearly extremely biased and no matter how bad the efficacy or side effects, etc., they are still going to praise up the shots, tell you how much you still need them and how good they are for you, and recommend everyone still take them, which is what they proceed to do in the article. However, they reported that for the 2019-2020 influenza season, the shots were found to be only 45% effective, with the numbers at 50% for influenza B and only 37% for influenza A. As I mentioned in my original comment, I personally have less seroconversion to vaccines, sometimes 3x less so, that for me basically meant I was only at about 15% efficacy that year. Pair that with the risk, any vaccine can cause me anaphylaxis, or an inflammatory response with my immune system which can throw my POTS, Crohn’s, MCAS into a flare…the benefit does NOT outweigh risk. But they never explain this to you. I also have asthma but, it’s always under control with my MCAS treatment and lifestyle changes. It doesn’t make me any higher risk than anyone else and I don’t need a shot just because I hold the diagnosis. Same with Pneumonia vaccines. My mother is 67 and was insistent that now she was older surely she must be high risk and “had” to have one. But pneumonia is caused by multiple things, bacteria, viruses, fungus. The Pneumonia vaccine only protects you from the Streptococcus pneumoniae bacteria, and only 23 strains of it…there are 80. Now, while they say that the 23 they have put in the vaccine are what causes most cases of bacterial pneumonia, that’s 50% of cases, at best, and you are not protected against pneumonia caused by any other microbe, including viruses. People get hospital acquired pneumonia from E. Coli, Enterobacter, Staph, Klebsiella pneumoniae, etc. Also there is ventilator acquired pneumonia. Or pneumonia from having allergies and asthma and then living in a house with mold or an animal you’re allergic to. I could go on. I mean, if people know this and still want one that’s there prerogative but, they deserve to know it’s not “protection from all pneumonia”. And again, certain genotypes or immune systems will be prone to overreacting to any foreign substance, including vaccines.

https://www.aafp.org/news/health-of-the-public/20200226interimfluve.html

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Leslie's avatar

Not an article but videos. One of these 3 on the list addresses flu shots specifically and their mercury content. Sorry not to be more specific. I am watching a list of 32 vaccine videos to curate a shorter list for my daughter who is entering the nursing field and asked for data on why she shouldn't take all the recommended ones. Anyway, I watched the first 3 and know I saw lots of flu shot info in one...

1. Vaccination – The Silent Epidemic –https://www.bitchute.com/video/Aasn9wsFv23c/

2. The Greater Good – https://www.bitchute.com/video/urJbeBjGnYBT/

3. Shots In The Dark – https://www.bitchute.com/video/tLPWqVLzSVh4/

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Peace's avatar

And don't forget the formaldehyde in the flu shots:)

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Gabriella's avatar

Thank you so much for these.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Here's one. https://drkevinstillwagon.substack.com/p/the-silent-killers-99a?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

Dr Kevin is pretty good at responding to his followers questions.

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Gabriella's avatar

Thank you.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

I recently found out that NO childhood vaccine has EVER been tested against a true placebo, NOT ONE, EVER! The entire childhood vaccine industry is built on false data, using other chemicals (poison) or other vaccines used as "placebos"! So, if "X vaccine" is "as safe" as already approved "Y vaccine" used as a placebo in trials, then it's approved!

It's absolutely NUTS, it's literally a very profitable house of cards! Dr Kevin Stillwagon is doing a multi-part substack on "vaccines" of all kinds. It all just passes me off so badly!

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Julia C's avatar

There’s so many red flags that people just willfully ignore. When the COVID jab was first coming out, I was already not interested because I have anaphylaxis and mast cell disorder which causes inappropriate and variable reactions to triggers. I’ve also reacted to a past vaccine before. Then as time went on of course I saw the persistent campaign towards immunocompromised individuals such as myself about how not only do we need to get this shot immediately, but now we need to get a third dose because of our immunosuppressive medication. Obviously they then discovered that *everybody* needed to get more than two shots because the two didn’t work. It now won’t be long before my population is lining up for shot #6 I believe. I saw so many of my fellow chronic disorder friends not question anything and just go along with the fear mongering that they would be a 100% death sentence if they got COVID simply because they had an autoimmune disorder or were immunocompromised. But guess who was excluded from all the vaccine trials? Yup…anyone taking immunosuppressive medication. They have no clue what all these doses are going to do to our immune systems. They just emphatically exclaimed that it was safe and effective for this population but, how? When I saw that it was just another checkbox solidifying my reasoning not to get it. And now look what’s happening. It’s causing onset of neurological and autoimmune disorders, flares of current disorders, wrecking immune health the more you pump in you. And check this. Before the shot came out, I saw an ME/CFS specialist call them “hyper-reactive vaccines that would cause all her patients to flare”. It’s certainly a well known phenomenon that vaccines can cause autoimmune autonomic neuropathy and new onset of other neurological and autoimmune symptoms. Fast forward to now, with all the Long COVID stuff, you have this huge population of people that believe they are suffering purely from post-viral symptoms. NONE of these symptoms are being blamed on the fact that any of them have been vaccinated. And what is one of the biggest LC diagnoses that I have been seeing written about….? ME/CFS. Coincidence? I think not. I think a huge proportion of people who have “Long COVID” are vaccine injured as well.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Exactly. Like suddenly "mon(k)eypox" is worldwide...because it's shingles renamed. Shingles happens to be a listed adverse reaction to the vax. This goes back to polio, too. Polio's been renamed so many times, I believe it's now mostly called acute flaccid myeolitis. Which, "coincidentally", spikes during August through November each year. What happens during that time? "Back to school" childhood vaxes are updated. There are NO coincidences.

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Julia C's avatar

Yeah I especially liked how during the lockdowns, when parents couldn’t or weren’t, taking their babies for well child checks and they were all missing their vaccines, the incidence of SIDS plummeted. No coincidences.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

I remember when I first learned of this data. It immediately took me back 40 years, remembering the sheer terror we experienced at just the thought of finding my babies, dead in their cribs. Learning that SIDS is undeniably linked to childhood vaccines absolutely INFURIATES me! I've heard of many families losing more than one infant to this and the doctors just throw up their hands, or worse, blame it in "genetics". They're doing the same to explain the rise in autism, "it's gotta be something wrong with the parents" 😡. I'm not certain they'll ever pay the price for these murders on this earth, but I'm thankful that the eternal lake of fire awaits them.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Absolutely!!

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