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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

"Cult 45 and proud."

Sincere props for admitting it. Only cult members could support a man responsible for 19 million dead and counting, on a Substack devoted to countering the Deathvax.

But you do you WS.

I'm not your enemy - I suspect we agree on almost everything. But the Trump Cult cannot stand factual criticism Dear Leader.

It's too bad.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Mr Trump killed 19 million people? Now THAT'S a new way of signaling you've got TDS HARD if you believe that

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Johnny-O's avatar

A true leader would have been shouting from the top of the white house not to take the poison death shot - not going around telling people to get it and bragging about it. I don't understand why this is hard for people to see.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

What part of Operation Warp Speed had you not heard of, Laura?

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

OWS did not mandate the vax. Conflating separate and specific terms invalidates your argument.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Fred, most of us agree on Trump’s flaws and also agree on these facts: Trump was mocked for advocating traditional responses to covid; as early as April 2020, he pushed back against lockdowns; BP withheld the vax until Biden could take credit for it; Kamala then did a 180 on taking it; Trump did not support vax mandates; Biden did not support conscientious objections to the vax; and his minions mandated lockdowns. You gave me proof of that last fact and then deflected and squirmed away.

You’ve been wrong, but you do have lucid moments, so help me understand why you lash out at people who don’t bow down to your opinions.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

I appreciate your comments.

"You gave me proof of that last fact and then deflected and squirmed away."

I don't squirm away from anything. Just about got into a fight just a few minutes ago on the street. I'm 61, and I don't back down.

So I have no idea what you're speaking about here., and was surprised to see you say that.

As to lashing out, I don't start these things but despite not wanting to, I sometimes have a shorter fuse on replying to others than I'd like. Like St. Paul, I often do what I do not want to do, and then regret it. Lord, have mercy on me, a sinner.

I see it as the reverse: Trump supporters lash out at anyone who has even the slightest criticism of their idol.

And to be honest, I can see why. Not only is Trump being persecuted but they often are as well. I got used to it myself driving around with a Trump bumper sticker.

So I don't know precisely what you're talking about but to each his own. Unlike progressives and some Trump supporters, I don't assume someone who disagrees with me is evil.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

It’s all good when iron sharpens iron and we don't resort to mischaracterizations and name-calling, so I'll try to be precise. Our disagreement is not about Trump. It’s about logic. You stated a premise: “Trump mandated lockdowns.” Then you cited a source contradicting your premise. I pointed that out, and you said your source is a murderous liar. Do we agree your source undermines if not disproves your premise? If verifiable facts prove Trump mandated lockdowns, I'd like to see them. You can move the goalposts or pivot to irrelevance, but so far, facts deny your premise.

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