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FourWinds's avatar

Seriously, hats off to the Muslims in Minnesota for fighting this. They apparently have no problem standing up for their religious beliefs and I agree 100% that children should not be offered material that is sexual in nature. Not just gay, though, all indoctrination of children about anything sexual ahold be completely off limits. I think that's a push to normalize pedophilia, which is - luckily - still a hard NO by 99.99% (I believe) of the citizens of this country.

Joanie Higgs's avatar

Yes. But how could parents request merely to *opt out* of a thoroughly perverted school culture, and why should the exemption be only a religious one. How parents can continue to send their kids to public or private schools that perpetrate these moral atrocities, is beyond me. There needs to be a tidal wave of homeschooling across the nation (and mine, which is Canada. The system is rotten to the core. But the muslims' lawsuit is better than nothing of course.

FourWinds's avatar

I'm no lawyer, but I bet that if the Muslims win this one, it should logically go that any parent could object based on their religious views. I agree that it should not be based on religion, it's based on morals. And of course porno material does not belong around children in the first place.

I think the only way to truly "opt out" is to remove your child and I'm all for pulling kids out if possible. But, there are parents who absolutely can't do that. They work 2-3 jobs to keep their family living inside. Homeschool and private school is out of the question. So, I'd like to see all of these perverts voted out of school boards and that crap removed from libraries.

OnTheJump's avatar

A parent should not have to "opt out" - that is unfortunate, if an " only option " - and ridiculous.

Parents should be able to voice their opinions, and have said opinions actually listened to and any reasonable concerns acted upon, at the ever-popular School Board meeting......of course, in our current 'woke world' - THAT parent becomes a Domestic Terrorist, who only wants to burn books.

What a terrible 'left turn' the US has taken. How do we 'right's the ship ?

Joanie Higgs's avatar

Yes, but parents can always team up to create their own group homeschooling possibilities. See also my former response in this thread.

Niki Stone's avatar

I believe we are slowly moving towards communities creating their own schools, medical centers and food growing collective. Keep sharing your message, it's moving in the right direction.

Suzy Cue's avatar

Yeah, but all homeowners are FORCED to pay taxes for public schools, as part of their property taxes. So this is all wrong!

Frontera Lupita's avatar

Agreed parents need to get ‘resourceful’ and team up with other parents...wake up..the Government and the free child care Education System is a total ‘dead end’ for your children.

PermieGeek's avatar

Freedom of religion includes personal moral beliefs- according to case law- such as young men drafted during Vietnam era could have a personal moral belief against killing people without belonging to any formal religion.

Suzy Cue's avatar

Exactly, PermieGeek.

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Don't vote them out, recall and/or fire those responsible. Letting them serve out their terms only encourages more of this. While you're at it, fire the librarians as well. They could restrict access to inappropriate materials.

Garden Lover's avatar

I don’t see why it should only be religious views. I am not particularly religious, but I wouldn’t want them to be teaching this to my child without my knowledge. They are teaching us at a very young age. Way too soon.

Susan Banks's avatar

I agree totally. I'm 65, and parents who aren't involved with their children's schools are letting their own children down. The bottom line is that every parent needs to be involved in their children's education. That's so important. My three Grandsons go to the same School. I call that School as a Grandparent, and their School is doing the right things. Pledge everyday. Recess everyday, Gym, Music Programs, and Plays. Ive been so impressed with their Country School. No 5G!! No Cell Towers are on their property. We have been asked to think of Humanitarian Projects if money were no Issue. I want to Start Gardens at every School. The kids need to learn to plant, grow, and Harvest everything that we can. They need to learn how to wait and be patient and growing is a good way to start. The Canning process too. I know how to do it all. I want to set a presadence for every school to do the same thing. With as many retired gardeners that would love to Volunteer. I can't wait to make it happen. What kind of project is God asking you to do? Just ask Him. He will let you know, if you ask. God Bless

Mary Mc's avatar

Gardening isn't for sissies. 😉

Don't forget that kids will learn some chemistry (soil acid balance and mixing stuff), math (measuring rows and production quantities), climate (rain amounts needed, snow and sunlight needs). Science (pests and photosynthesis). Just to name a few. ❤️

Susan Banks's avatar

So true! There is every subject in the classroom that can be learned in a Garden.

Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Thank you for your spot on encouragement, Susan--I'm a Granna too and I have a 21 year old granddaughter who is training to become a kindergaraten teacher. I will pick her brain to see what she will do when "pushed" to allow this perverse material to enter the curriculum of the school where she'll be a teacher. I keep praying she'll migrate to a private school setting.

Susan Banks's avatar

Well I will be praying with you for your beautiful Granddaughter!! Thank you for your compliment! God Bless you Granna and I hope you are staying encouraged during these awful hard times.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Some people have no choice but to send their kids to public schools.

Like having a job...or two jobs...or both parents having to work.

Biden's economy.

Joanie Higgs's avatar

When the stakes are this high, it's imperative to find a way out. People also argued they "had no choice" to take the poison shot. No. There is always the heroic decision to buck the tide and deal with the consequences, which in the end are much less impactful than the harms of complying.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

So many people were brainwashed.

A woman I know who only buys organic fruits and vegetables was ecstatic to be one of the first to be injected with the covid death shot.

Annie's avatar

Unfortunately, the "consequences" could be CPS taking children away from a family who lost their stable housing due when they lost their job for non-compliance. The "heroic decision" looks different when children are involved.

Melanie Eccles's avatar

Here is Dr. Dave Martin explaining just how deep the "jab" corruption goes - so worth watching...https://www.bitchute.com/video/MMXfRHgFybqK/

Ms Helen's avatar

So true. I still find it unbelievable that so many just folded when they were told to get the jab or else. Some were even proactive, begging for it. Remember the "just say no".

Dean's avatar

Wow! Joanie is truthing now! Thank you!!!!

Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

COURAGE is what we are lacking - there will always be fear mongers amongst us.

God Bless America's avatar

The stakes are that high! 😱 We are a 24 year homeschool family… We have been a one income family for that long… It’s been tough, but you make your choices based on your priorities… if we can do it… Anyone can! I don’t say that to brag… I say this to encourage EVERYONE to start down this wonderful path! And no, my husband is not some fancy engineer with a six figure salary…

And I say this again! It’s very tough, but absolutely worth it! We live in a small house… We have old cars… My car has 296,000 miles on it and it’s held together by heavenly duct tape! 💖😁🥰 we are recycling our books down through the children… Personally, math doesn’t change and history shouldn’t either!

1. Pray! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 then get onto HSLDA and find out your State’s home school rules and laws.

2. Contact people that can help you get started… People at church, friends, family members, etc.

3. Remember to not put your kindergarteners through college… 😱 allow a period of transition for your home and school.

4. Talk to your kids! Give reasons why this needs to happen…

5. Make sure you take all of this with a sense of humor! We have a very good friend right now who pulled his daughters out of public school in the 10th grade. He is now trying to repair their bad study habits… It’s very frustrating but we are encouraging him to have a sense of humor through all of this!

6. I’m sure there are other people who can add to this list… I’m encouraging them to chime in…

🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 you can do this! I’m speaking to EVERYONE out there! 😊

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Fla Mom's avatar

That's why school choice laws, allocating the taxpayers' money for education to families instead of to government school systems, is so important.

Karen Bandy's avatar

That’s why they hated Trump’s choice for Education Secretary (I think that was her title). She was for school vouchers so people could homeschool, or choose private schools if I’m recalling correctly.

SCmama's avatar

Fla Mom, I used to agree with what you are saying until I learned more about that argument. As a homeschooling family, I now believe it’s critical to not depend on ANY money from the government and look for ways to help those in need without relying on the government to be the solution. This is short video does a great job presenting an alternative argument to homeschoolers and other alternative schools accepting taxpayer $ - https://youtu.be/13YdgSfV_gE?si=qddlvfl7z0TE_ldB

PermieGeek's avatar

I think school choice is wonderful AND I think it is a Trojan Horse. The money will most likely come with strings that are unacceptable at some point. IMO take the money until there are strings, but don't ever become dependent upon it.

R1ghtTh1nk's avatar

Whose money funds public schools? Imagine that THAT money followed the student and that parents had real choice. The problem is NOT that parents can "only" afford public school. The problem is that the county and state take taxpayer money and spend it solely to meet political ends. Children are not educated to meet the children's needs; children are "educated" to meet politicians' "needs."

Julie Ann B's avatar

Then enlist grandparents to help, form a group where parents work together to provide a solid core education. If you ever sat in a public school classroom for a day you would be shocked at the amount of time wasted. The public school system is broken, just like healthcare is, and needs to be dismantled from top to bottom.

JSR's avatar

We have hired teachers, formed PMA and are doing it right

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Not everyone live in close proximity to grandparents.

I was in the military and lived away from my own parents and other family members for 23 years.

PermieGeek's avatar

I was a single mom who homeschooled my daughter. I felt I was called by God to do it and although it wasn't without it's struggles, it can be done.

STH's avatar

Many claim they “can not live on one income”. Unless you are a single parent, there are ways to make it happen. Even if it means moving to a more affordable home or state. I’m sure there are some with very legit reasons. But there are far more, IMO, who with a little creativity and sacrifice could homeschool.

Susan Banks's avatar

I stayed home with my boys. We all sacrificed!! But, when you raise your children without working, you have to be willing to do whatever it takes to conserve. My boys still cut open toothpaste tubes to get every bit of the paste out. Water off while brushing, turning water off when washing in the shower, (if warm enough), Waste not, want not.

Janet's avatar

We lived on one income a long time--until way after our daughter was out of college, which we paid for. Then I went to school and got a decent job with a pension. We still had nice things but nowhere near what younger people THINK they need.

Suzy Cue's avatar

This is reminding me of how my daughter (RN working in a hospital) had to use a religious exemption to avoid getting the goddamned Covid19 injections. We shouldn’t have to use religion as a reason for maintaining our civil rights. We should simply have to say ‘no’. I think this is a dangerous road (using religion as the only justification for maintaining our individual rights).

Joanie Higgs's avatar

Glad to hear you say this, as I've maintained exactly that throughout. And even the Nuremberg Code that everyone thinks is the final word, isn't because it only stipulates "experimental" medical procedures. Whether a thing is deemed experimental or approved, ALWAYS there must be individual informed consent and choice.

Truthseeker's avatar

Yup. We need to bring back ‘philosophical vaccine exemptions’… which many states used to have also… a few still do.

But really… the philosophical exemptions were the first to go… then they moved on to removing the religious vaccine exemptions… and now it’s perfectly clear why.

They always meant to remove a person’s ability to choose… they want no personal choice on the vaccine issue.

And given the Pope’s vaccine position 🤨 … the way the Catholic Church is positioning themselves on the vaccine issue … they’re undermining the religious exemption- certainly for Catholics … which was very upsetting for me.

Frontera Lupita's avatar

I agree on the homeschooling...the ‘public school education system’ is seriously broken...just like every other ‘system’...Industrial Medical Healthcare Delivery System, The Government, media, et. al.

Susan Stephens's avatar

In a sanely moral society material such as this wouldn’t even be considered for youngsters at all! But considering the degeneracy of society today any such material should be an “Opt In” proposition rather than any “Opt Out.”

The elitist education establishment (on any level) is so out of control any laws passed (which is what it may take) should require “opt in” for any materials - sexual, SEL, CRT, Common Core (which basically opened doors to all this madness), revisionist history, etc.

“Education” today has become indoctrination into collectivist ideology.

And all I see being done by our “leaders” is more money thrown in & more programs created. Oh the growing bureaucracy!

Joanie Higgs's avatar

I understand where you're coming from on the "opt in" point but seriously, would you even want your kids or grandkids sharing recess with classmates who were so opted? Filth has no place in any school, period.

Peace's avatar

Genius! "any such material should be an "opt In" proposition rather than any "opt out."

Dean's avatar

Spot on Joanie....hope you are running for a seat on your local school board...or city council at least! You would have all the votes in my family....which is becoming quite large and conservative.

Joanie Higgs's avatar

😄 In fact, I did just get myself, and two others of like mind elected to our local community planning committee, which doesn't have actual legal teeth but it's a start, as we can monitor and maybe have some influence on city council members. Our school board elections aren't for another two years unfortunately, and I'm known too widely as a black sheep, to make any inroads there. But am encouraging others in that direction.

Credenda's avatar

I’m totally with you Joanie. What EVER will it take for Christian parents to remove their children from these filth-laden indoctrination centers? Where is the red line? I’m afraid the answer is that there is none. To home educate is a huge sacrifice for normal working people. It means a lower standard of living. Maybe a modest home with no hardwood floors, granite countertops, etc., all the really important things in life. Our values have been subtly shaped by our prosperity. We pay lip-service to Christian values but we don’t walk the talk. The Muslims seem to care more about the grooming of their children than we. This is to our shame. But big respect to them for taking the lead.

Elaine Elias's avatar

Who started thinking that "educating" youngsters about deviant sex was appropriate? I am still trying to wrap my head around it. It won't get them a good job. Especially if they can't read or write.

Bryn Cannon's avatar

Still trying to wrap my head around society thinking schools should talk about sex at all.

Sherry 1's avatar

Canadians of every nationality, with a very large percentage of Muslims, marched together this summer in the Million Person March to protest against Drag Library shows, sexualized school programs, CRT, and the filth found in our Libraries. Our schools have become cesspools of sex promotion. The NORMAL school Administrators and faculty should be cleaning this absolute mess up. Children do NOT need to be taught this 100% inappropriate crap. It caught the news and counter protesters with the usual rainbow gear, Antifa with their umbrellas and the Trans screamers but the Parents far outnumbered them so Trudeau could at least not close down bank accounts but accused the parents of being transphobes and all his usual name calling, I think Colonizers was in there.

Joanie Higgs's avatar

Kind of like a dystopian circus.

Mazel Lee's avatar

Good news! Religious exemptions don’t apply only for those who are religious. They apply for atheists as well and conscious objectors. I learned this when doing my research for refusing the vaccines.

Sara A's avatar

I agree, Joanie. This is just one issue among many. Public school is socialist school and you are sending your kids off to indoctrination camp. *Free* government school cannot be assumed to be of high standards or morality. Parents are sending their impressionable kids off for many hours and have absolutely no idea what is being taught or what the world view of the teachers are. Then one day they see a book they don’t like and act as though they are completely shocked in the decisions of the administrators. Never mind all the other vast issues and social ideas forced upon your kids every day.

Niki Stone's avatar

In Europe they are putting in laws to prevent any opting out.

Niki Stone's avatar

It is. But it's also a good thing because say for example all the re were made for the vaccines - all the people who wanted to opt out would have stopped fighting for others. When they don't give people the option, it will be their downfall as the people that have no clue and trusting in blind faith will be informed as to why people are wanting to opt out. Everything works against desperate people who seek total control.

I've watched training videos of these teachers who say they will find a way around it no matter what. One school is even getting someone to come in for 3 days to avoid permission slips and all sorts. What I have also seen is kids videoing their teachers bullying them to force them to watch it. Kids are protesting against this too and they might be creating a bigger problem then they know as they can deceive parents but kids are smart and as they grow older may form an internal resistance of their own.

JW's avatar

Granted, it was eons ago but we had a science teacher offer a basic human sexuality course to us in 8th grade, girls separate from boys, and it was only after parents signed a permission form allowing the "talk". It covered human anatomy and how it all worked. I would bet very few of those permission notes would get signed if this was still required. Of course back then the word gay was not even around yet. Too bad we do not have a time machine. I'd go back to those days in a heartbeat.

VanLife Views's avatar

JW,

I remember all that so well. Yep that’s how they taught it (and I grew up in San Francisco in the 60’s)

Can’t remember much about the class but it was the gym teacher teaching the class. Teachers overlapped in teaching classes in a couple subjects back in the day.

We also had wood and metal shop along with drivers Ed.

Boy drivers Ed would be great to bring back.

Long ago when my son was 10 he delved into building a Time Machine. Wish I could post a picture. He worked on this little metal contraption for years on and off. Using old household parts, chicken wire and an “on and off” light switch

We would talk about what time periods we would like to go visit.

I always stuck with the 70’s.

He wanted to see the 1400’s.... yikes

We had an aviator friend stop by one time and he saw that “machine” and said “oh yeah don’t try and take that through an airport TSA when you go fly to see grandma”

😂

He did take it into class to show the kids once.

Boy did it spark lots of conversations. Little kids with all kinds of times they wanted to visit.

Ok well my son really tried.... he poured his little heart into the whole idea and the making of it..... that’s no lie.

He believed with all his being it was going to work and people would be overjoyed.

Ok

Memory lane and Time Machine ramble all done 😎

Brenda's avatar

5th grade teacher here. We give parents the option to 1) watch the film before the lesson, 2) sit in on the lesson, 3) opt their child out of the lesson. Simple. Respectful. No judgement. The parents knows best. (But this is NE, and we are still red)

JW's avatar

That's the way it should be everywhere!

Janet's avatar

I love this story!! It’s in your family legend story now and that’s important.

JW's avatar

What a great kid you have. I think a lot of problems arise with kids when their creativity is hampered and they don't use that wonderful gift. Who knows, he may get that machine to work one day! I was a 50's kid in San Jose so same area. Wow how it has changed there. Moved to the South and no regrets. Thank you for sharing the story of your son's machine.

Janet's avatar

50’s kid here. We would wander around, build huts back of the barn, sneak in the interesting back yards off the alleys where grandparents lived, rode our used bikes we painted ourselves to look sharp down all sorts of paths and roads. Laid in the back yard on a summer night and saw ALL the stars. Although there are children living around us, our neighborhood is silent even on nice days.

VanLife Views's avatar

JW, Thanks. Most of the family is in the North Bay now. Our family left SF in 1980. Family on both mother and fathers side lived in SF since 1907. I left the North Bay/CA around 2015. (Moved to AZ) When visiting anywhere in the Bay its just so strange these days..... And I refuse to put the SF "poop app💩" on my phone so I can watch where to step if I ever have an itching to go across the Golden Gate .............. (NOPE).

Yes so glad my son he had that creative flair about him.

As kids we were always doing all kinds of crafts and building stuff too.

Semi retired and travel the west full-time now. We meet SO many folks out here and I will say 98% of them think all this new "re-set" crap is just that Crap! Most are not buying it. (Most people we talk or chat with are not all retried folks, we talk to all ages)

So I try to hold out faith you know.......

Best to you and all your good comments here.

Ok back to watching the Saguaros 🌵and the clouds drift by every so often out here in the sunny SWest~ 🌄

Befferz's avatar

First season of 'King of the Hill' there was a big hoopla over Peggy teaching Sex Ed.

I don't understand how it got here so rapidly where they are allowed to discuss whatever they want without parent input?

sean anderson's avatar

Yes. I remember . . . “The pen is mightier than the sword. The pen is . . . “ 😆

Susan Stephens's avatar

Apathy. Frog in water. The leftists never rest but push little by little, then there’s the tipping point.

Peace's avatar

Some schools bring in Planned Parenthood speakers to present the sex ed info.

Temcol's avatar

It is now in 5th grade. The genders (boys and girls) are separated and taught human growth curriculum about their bodies.

JJ's avatar

That's a 5th grade talk now.

Jaci's avatar

Joke is on, they marry children. This goes on in the US. They subjugate women. They bring their hatred of infidels right into our country and we have raised the tent flap....

Based Florida Man's avatar

Ya it's hard to call this a W.

FourWinds's avatar

I see that, but I am grateful SOMEONE is trying to fight this. I think Jeff is on track - at least no one can use the usual arguments and prejudices against a group of Muslim parents.

Based Florida Man's avatar

I hear you. We gotta work with what we can.

rolandttg's avatar

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

FourWinds's avatar

That may be the case, but I see them doing what no one else is right now. I have respect for that. As for the rest of the culture, I am not commenting because I don't know enough to do so.

Sherry 1's avatar

Read about the culture. What’s happened in Finland, Sweden, Ireland, and other EU countries. It will really open your eyes. There is danger coming with all the single, fighting aged men coming through the southern border.

P Flournoy's avatar

You need to educate yourself on the culture. It is just as devoid of morals as the progressive movement and they are working to take over the schools. I’d like to know what the details are in that lawsuit

daverkb's avatar

Right. I feel so, so 'enriched!'

Dean's avatar

Not all do that but it is accepted in some sects and clans. The irony of your point, however, is not lost on me.

PermieGeek's avatar

I grew up around a lot of Mormons. I personally never knew anyone that was involved in a cult--all Mormons I knew were just good hearted family people--yet there is some very dark stuff that happens in Mormonism and is allowed by the higher structure. My best guess is that it's similar with Muslims in our country.

Debra's avatar

I would also add the Catholic Church. Many times it's not the people it is their leaders that are the trouble.

Susan Stephens's avatar

As I recall the Somalis are guilty of FGM (female genital multilation.

Susan Seas's avatar

And raises serious concerns about Christians!

Ralph DenHartigh's avatar

One of the issues is that “you can’t hate on Muslims”, but it’s okay to hate on Christians.

Jaye's avatar

We've had brilliant protests near where I am, and for similar reasons, which managed to bring Muslim, Christian and Jewish parents together.

The media finds this confounding, and rather frustrating, it seems. They can't blame it on white, right-wing, Christians

Leo's avatar

Jaye, right - it so confuses people when they can't figure out who to blame and hate.

Penny North's avatar

And nobody raises the issue of reverse discrimination. The door swings both ways!

Dean's avatar

True....because Christians haven’t received the most favored status of “victim” in the leftist lexicon....therefore we are “oppressors” and by their definition irredeemably evil. Jeff made an excellent observation that the Muslim community has political armor plating thanks to the left’s warm embrace... makes me chuckle. Next the left will try to define “good Muslims” as distinct from bad “Muslims” in an effort to maintain ecumenical unity around the Marxist narrative.

Debra's avatar

Like the Hamas Muslims compared to the Minnesota Muslims.

Niki Stone's avatar

You are correct that this needs to be addressed not as a gay issue but as a sexual content issue. They carefully planned this so that people could be called bigoted and homophobic and we need to rise above this and address the real issue that they are coming after all children to indoctrinate them into a minor attracted people agenda. This is clearly understandable by the WHO guidelines that aim to teach children to masturbate by the age of 4. This advice is being presented to all professionals in child protection services through charities like the corrupt international center for missing and exploited children. There is a pattern of schools attempting to have self touching rooms since 2016, as one example of how far this goes back. Everytime someone makes this a biblical issue, we loose sight of the real problem.

From my research the twerking drags is connected to an elite ritual where they train young boys to dance to prepare them for a sexual sacrifice.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

I have also extensively tested meta in their sexual content the past two years. For example, they allowed a video of a child dressed as a vampire sucking the breast of a woman in fetish clothes however my hash tag #pedopayroll which collected the clips from school board hearings and books was blocked. What's interesting is they didn't do the coding correctly and as I discussed with people what they could see, meta took the time to ensure it was blocked for everyone in real time. It now has the same message as #pizzagate. Worth a note, 2 years ago #pizzagate has a warning that it was a domestic terrorist group who was spreading this information, Qanon. And we now know Meek the journalist who debunked pizzagate has been arrested for child sex charges.

Many of us know that they have the software to censor content such as COVID within seconds and it is a selective choice not to censor child exploitation material - we can be thankful to the pandemic for exposing this. I have experienced the same level of censorship for posting anything about elite pedophilia and even on topics such as fluoride.

The committee hearing meeting notes on Zuckerbergs response to controlling pedophiles on his platform date back since 2017. None of this is new to the government, just like our government knows the UN is part of the human trafficking problem.

For me, I see the threat of a digital currency and social credit score controlled by pedophiles a huge threat to our ability to speak out on these issues. This is why it's so important that we get the message right and respect religious freedom for all as this gives the leaders of this agenda ammo to reject claims. It also further creates divide. You are never going to convince a gay person that your God thinks their love is sinful and change who they are. It doesn't work.

Many people in the LGBT community are fighting against the sexualizing of children. Once they become educated, without shaming them as adults as many of them this is about love is love, they are able to influence others in their community which only strengthens the argument as no one can call them bigoted when they fight to remove this content. Many of the people online you see are paid trolls or heavily brainwashed, so please don't buy into the psyops of the government to think the entire LGBT community supports this, as they don't.

We are stronger in numbers and it's too important for all children of future generations for us not to focus on the real issues... Protecting all children from sexually exploiting content and big pharma experimentations.

PermieGeek's avatar

100%--this->"needs to be addressed not as a gay issue but as a sexual content issue"

Niki Stone's avatar

I was shocked when the AG of Florida office told me they could not investigate the fetish show at universal and how it was advertised as it's a political issue and the AG has a choice on what issues she defends as a matter of legal statue. As soon as we remove any debate around the sexual orientation of it, it removes any political agenda and becomes solely about protecting children from harmful content. The governors office told me there was no reporting system they had to track any of it too. Nothing. No way for them to put on a spreadsheet the complaints of sexually - it all seems like a way to create civil war to me.

I watched a music video channel the other day for the first time in probably 20 years and all that content should have warnings and need parental consent - this issue is much greater than just schools, it's what they are putting online as well. I am not a prude person and I was shocked by what any child can access without warning especially in regards to their mental health to think it's normal.

We need to keep repeating the message...

100%--this->"needs to be addressed not as a gay issue but as a sexual content issue"

Leo's avatar

Niki, re: "...solely about protecting children from harmful content." Maybe the issues is legally defining "harmful content."

Cynthia Ford's avatar

This is a wonderful post. I just pulled out my last year's leftover Christmas cards, a madonna and child from Unicef, and my first thought was "Trick or treat for pedophilia' since the UN is full on grooming and pedophilic, and in my day we collected change for hungry kids on Halloween. A lot like Iran being head of the Human Rights Committee at the UN.

I don't know what it is about human beings that we try to force others to believe what we believe.

Niki Stone's avatar

I love that idea of collecting change for hungry children instead of candy.

Humans seem to have a survival savior complex that lacks the understanding that we are all unique and independent in our life journey. What is good for me, is not necessarily good for another. I was writing something about my political stance that I am non partisan as my beliefs are focused on the human rights of others to be safe and secure and there is no party that represents this - as you say, its just two different groups trying to force the other what they belief is best for all.

I don't know what needs to happen to shift the focus towards a more loving society that nurtures others but I hope it happens soon.

EMME's avatar

I completely agree with you that “indoctrination of children about anything sexual should be off limits!”

I live in a small rural town in Texas. Our local Walmart was recently remodeled, and on my first excursion through the store i was completely taken back (shocked is more the term) to see the new addition of adult sexual toys (pictures on the boxes) right in plain sight on the store shelves.

I am currently standing firm on my community proposal to boycott Walmart for their new “sex toys” display in plain sight of young children to see. It’s sad to think that a huge percentage of parents don’t see that Walmart is fully (knowingly) participating in the sexualization of our kids!

Where is it ever going to end if nobody stands to protect our little ones!!

VanLife Views's avatar

IN RURAL TEXAS? Completely blown away by this one. What isle is this even in.

While we travel we are at the mercy of Walmart at times. Especially when way out there in nowhere land.

Out yonder so many times all we see in the distance is a Walmart.

I thought maybe they would refrain from porn on the shelves.

I know, I'm naive 😭

EMME's avatar

The aforementioned items were located near the pharmacy in an area that adjoins to personal items like deodorant, toothpaste, feminine hygiene products, etc.

MaryAnn's avatar

That Walmart beacon in the distance can be a lifesaver. It reminds me of returning to the US in mid 60’s from a four year tour of duty in Germany. (My dad served) Howard Johnson’s and HoJo cafe’s were everywhere in the vast, sometimes desolate, midsection of the US.

EMME's avatar

The Walmarts of yesteryear were great before China took over!!!!

rolandttg's avatar

A No for sure, but sadly not hard. If so, more normies would be willing to put their heads above the parapets.

Vonu's avatar

Children shouldn't be offered the bible?

FourWinds's avatar

I'm at a loss here because I'm not religious and confess I haven't read 90% of the bible. Just some Exodos, some Genesis, some Revelations. I don't seem to remember anything blatantly sexual in those books, plus I'll go out on a limb and bet that the bible does not have descriptions of anal sex for children. To answer your question, if the bible does have graphic descriptions of sexual activity (which I SERIOUSLY doubt), then no, children should not be exposed to that.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

The Bible is full of stories about flawed humans because that's the only kind there is. But thankfully God's story is of redemption of those flawed humans because that's our only hope.

Debra's avatar

The Old Covenant was very demanding (Wrath of God).

The New Covenant (Blood of Jesus) is faith, hope and love.

Step 1) Accept Jesus as your savior .

Step 2) Ask for forgiveness and repent from sin.

Step 3) Love one another.

Vonu's avatar

The bible is very clear about what should be done to men who lay with men as they would lay with women.

Niki Stone's avatar

The bible is also clear what should happen to members of the church who harm these little ones. A millstone wrapped around their neck and thrown to sea. Unfortunately the church just transfers pedophiles who lay with children as they should women and through action this all respect has been lost.

Niki Stone's avatar

I think the stories most are concerned about are the stories of the villages being raided and the women and children abused or how they treat slaves. There is a lot of graphic violence in the bible and it's very fear based. This is the reason I object to it. Not to mention the hate it teaches for people who divorce and who love the same sex as an example. It's very hypocritical in terms of not judging others and it empowers people to act as the mouthpiece for tyranny. The message of Jesus is good, but a lot of the other stuff is questionable propaganda. The slaves had a completely different version that oppressed them and the authentication of it not being altered to create a deep level of mind control is very questionable. People who follow the book rules for radicals and other text talk extensively on how to use religion to create their control.

Leo's avatar

Niki: Fast forward to focus on the teachings of Jesus - that's more than enough.

Garden Lover's avatar

What happened to getting written consent from parents to allow children to receive sex education? That’s how it was when I was in school. When did all of that change and why did it change? Of course, that’s so the far left can push their ideology.

Being a Nancy's avatar

The Muslim factor is fine with me on this one. Whatever it takes and if they go jihad on twisted school admins who distribute these filthy sex materials that's none of my business.

Marsha McGrath's avatar

I agree that people should stand for something, but my hat will never come off to a Muslim. I am a Christian and I know what they want for me. We need to better stand our ground.

Jeff C's avatar

"Gay parents argue that every grocery magazine cover glorifies heterosexual content, and nobody complains about that, so giving school kids cartoons showing little boys performing oral sex on each other is only fair."

These people are such twisted, disingenuous liars. First off, there's a huge difference between something displayed at supermarket counter versus being forced on kids as indoctrination against their parent's will. Second, supermarkets don't display outright pornography, you have to go actually looking for that if it's what you want. Third, many of us are disgusted by the constant hypersexuality of pop culture and want nothing to do with it. These homosexuals act if every heterosexual is as depraved and sex-obsessed as themselves.

Folks, you have been warned over and over, if your kids are still in public school then you are endangering them. These people are raising your kids and they cannot be trusted. And grandparents, how about skipping the Mediterranean cruise and instead offering to help pay for your grandkid's tuition to a biblical Christian school. I guarantee that will be more fulfilling than the cruise ship all-you-can-eat buffet.

PamelaZelie's avatar

“Folks, you have been warned over and over, if your kids are still in public school then you are endangering them.”

🎯🎯🎯

FourWinds's avatar

Yeah, and it will most certainly beat being quarantined on a cruise ship the next time TPTB invent another scamdemic. But seriously, get your kids out of public schools. Home school, private school, whatever. But get them the heck out.

Lisa Ca's avatar

I love the comment about cruise and education. My parents very kindly offered to help put my one child thru Christian private education because we are living in one income. I am very grateful for their offer even though it would only be partial. We refuse to do Public.

Jeff C's avatar

God bless you Lisa, this warms my heart.

I've been on a mini-crusade to get older folks to look at the bigger picture, seems they are completely oblivious to what is going on around them. Not all of course, but many have substantial retirement savings and huge home equity (half a million or more). Yet they sit on that while their grandkids are stuck in lousy schools, with rampant drug use, violence, and propagandized to change their gender.

You can't take it with you as they say. And that Winnebago or Mercedes is just more stuff in an attempt to fill emptiness that comes from material pursuit. How about instead using that money to change your loved one's lives?

Don't make your kids come begging for it, make the first move.

Lisa Ca's avatar

Amen! And thank you for working to try to enlighten and change that. Thankfully my parents are as horrified as we are of the things they are teaching. My father has tried to delicately share some with me of which I just quickly say yes I know. The disgust on his face is precios to me because I know he cares. He turns 77 today.

George Burnet's avatar

"Public" school is a euphemism. These are government schools, run by the government, of the government, and for the government.

PermieGeek's avatar

And originally set up in the Prussian model by industrialists like Carnegie and Rockefeller to create good factory workers.

STH's avatar

I completely agree. But our little town doesn’t have any private schools, Christian or otherwise. If my daughter decides to homeschool, I will help in whatever way I can.

JSR's avatar

Private schools are not necessarily better…

Niki Stone's avatar

I'm pretty sure most LGBT people agree with you. I really do think it's rare that the members of this community agree that porn or this level of sex education should be in schools. One of the problems is, most people who are liberated from the brainwashing of society, don't even know this is happening as they don't watch the news. Yes, there are some weird people out there that have totally lost the plot, but if they have done, it's because it's infuriating to have other people's religion inflicted on them. Sadly they don't have the emotional resilience to separate the cognitive dissonance. But in the same token people like yourself can't step back and see the bait in the line of comparing glossy magazines to teaching oral sex. It's just bait. The number of people who would make this connection is low yet it achieved what it intended, to distract you from the real problem that sexualizing our children is in every school institution. Church schools aren't the answer, addressing the issues of the WHO and UN and their guidance over our childrens education is. or home school. That's the best direction.

Jeff C's avatar

We probably agree on some things but I do want to touch on a few items where I profoundly disagree.

Most LGBT may agree with me but they sure are quiet aside from Gays Against Groomers (who is a treasure). So where are they? They aren't at school board meetings saying, "these people claim to speak in my name but they are wrong (and frankly evil)". Nope, just silence from them.

I never said that church schools were they answer, there are plenty of church schools out there where I'd never send my kids. The Catholic High School I attended (against my will FWIW) has gone completely woke and is a laughingstock. The ELCA schools promote every perversion the Bible specifically condemns under the guise of "love". I specifically said a "biblical Christian school", i.e. a school where the Bible forms the basis of all school decisions and policy; morality, curriculum, discipline, respect for others, forgiveness, and of course Christ's love. We are fortunate that we've found such a school, otherwise my kids would be homeschooled.

As to addressing WHO and UN guidance, good luck with that. You can go on the warpath and take on the local public school district and after five years of hard work *maybe* things change a little. In the mean time your children have suffered five years of relentless indoctrination. Nope, not worth it, I'm a realist and my kid's aren't going to suffer why I go on some Quixotic campaign to change the world. That stinking ship can go down, my kids are my highest priority. This is despite the fact I pay twelve grand a year in property taxes to pay for those schools.

Regarding the glossy magazine comment I specifically said, "many of us are disgusted by the constant hypersexuality of pop culture and want nothing to do with it." So your comment that "people like me can't step back and see the bait" is outright wrong. I know exactly what's going on. We don't have cable, we have strong blocks on the internet, my youngest (16) still doesn't have a phone, and we almost never listen to secular music, instead listening to worship and praise. My kids are active in the church youth group and enjoy going to church, they bug me to take them to mid-week events. They could not care less about Taylor Swift or whatever bilge Hollywood is pumping out. They know that pop culture is a sewer of filth that leads to no place good. My kid's are designed by God for so much more than all that.

From your comment I get the distinct impression someone claiming to act on God's behalf hurt you deeply. I get it as I've been there too. There is hope In Jesus, and not all of us are Bible-thumping hypocrites but actually try to walk the walk. There are good churches out there too. God bless.

Niki Stone's avatar

Also I should say that I don't go to school board meetings. But I've probably called at least 50 democratic senators and reps to explain to them what I have discovered in my research, such as drags twerking in bikinis or homework on masturbation and how Facebook blocked my hashtag with all of this evidence. Or I mention the Danish studies and how the trans big pharma is all experimental.

The people I speak to are in absolute disbelief that this is happening. They try to correct me and say it's not widespread or a global agenda, but I have too many examples it is, then they will try to say I'm just against the community, but they can't as I'm part of the community and I'm blaming them for causing me distress for not managing this problem. Then many of them will say well we can't record your moments as you don't live in my district. So I tell them that I'm calling because your office needs to be informed and not many people are as strong as I am, so you need to understand this is coming as part of the community voice for concern for children. All I ask is that these concerns are mentioned in your office.

What I've noticed is people are so dumb. I had an hour long conversation with a public defender and she just couldn't understand that twerking was a sexual position and style of sex, not just a dance move.

The other problem is that many people are so nice that they are too naive to think this could be a government run global agenda to lower the age of consent. The media helps with this by calling us all right wing extremist. There is a huge amount of psyops going on in the LGBT media which is making the community very fearful of MAGA types. From my research there is a lot of reason to fear those in this group, but there are a lot more people who are LGBT allies - the problem is that the ones that aren't are the most vocal. It takes a huge amount of self love to be able to come onto these threads to find the information one needs to fight the system and I believe that many people are like me, we come online get what we need and then spend time connecting to share this information with others who can make a difference.

I have personally been muted from zooms for democrats, kicked out of LGBT groups, and various other things for speaking out. The LGBT community that fights has it much harder than those on the right because when we fight, we are not only not accepted from the right, but the left then abandons us. Only the strongest people will be able to manage this level of social isolation. If you have any opinion on any topic of LGBT issues outside the narrative like, no to teaching 73 genders, it's like a cult - they ban you from spreading this message to others.

I mention this I don't know if people understand what those dissenting in the LGBT community is going through and why they need more support from those on the right, especially Christians.

It's only because of the very kind Christians that I have met that I keep coming back and continue to help. But I assure you when Jeff writes things like asking if we should make sodomy illegal, I fume with anger and it takes away from my energy that I have to contact people to spread the right message, not to mention it means I can't read any comments in the thread, to protect myself, and I'm likely missing important information. I've gone months without longing on to this substack just in fear of what sort of divide would be created that would upset my emotional balance and take away from what I'm trying to achieve in my own infowar battle field with thr government.

I'm a very strong person and if I'm struggling I really emphasize with others.

Niki Stone's avatar

Firstly it's very nice to hear how you have raised your children and I do hope they continue on the path you have helped them on. Most Christian families aren't as successful as they create rebellion instead and I wish all church schools could be modelled on the one you described.

As a member of the LGBT community I can tell you exactly where they are and why they are silent. The abuse the last 3 years is too much to bare. I constantly have triggers from what I read online and if it wasn't for my son's church school who sexuality exploited him and terrorised us both for 5 years, I wouldn't have been committed to finding out the truth of the problem. I spent a long time committed to the church and I've never regretted finding my own spiritual path. Christianity does not work for me, I am more loving and forgiving person without it's influence. But if it works for you, I respect your journey. But no, I will never ever consider that it's just a few bad churches covering up for pedophiles or that the entire membership of this institution isn't responsible for the harm caused in society. Jesus is separate to me and I can respect his message without respecting Christianity. It's called being Gnostic. Taking the truth in all.

I speak to many LGBT people and I get the understanding of what I have felt that people are wrongfully abusing them, making them feel judged and shamed and therefore they make the decision that the entire parents rights movement is targeted at their freedom to love and express themself so they avoid the topic all together because it's too painful.

You can't expect to shove religion down someone's throat, tell them they are sinful and then expect them to respect anything you say. These threads are full of abuse and I don't blame anyone for choosing not to tolerate it and risking putting their family at risk trying to fight basic civil rights. If people could move past the gay issue of religion and make this a content issue, we would see a lot more joining the gays against groomers movement.

The focus needs to be on the WHO and their sexual education guidelines because the who is funded by Gates largely who has connections to Esptein - this is targeting the root of the problem and tackles it at the source. It's much more effective to address it from a top down approach than a bottom up approach in school board meetings, but if people are going to go to the schools board meetings, they need to have the right information to expose the source, instead of letting these psychopaths scapegoat those at the bottom who can just be replaced with others who have been indoctrinated. The system to protect these people is huge, so we need to be smart on how we counter attack. Especially when creating safe spaces for all to learn about the problem and speak out.

You seem like a good person. I wish you well in your efforts and I thank you for all you are doing.

Julie Ann B's avatar

I couldn’t agree more! We’ve donated money and supplies to our grandkids private school, which is a start-up and very short of funds. But the parents are committed to the school and some grandparents not only donate money but also their time in teaching some of the classes or offering enrichment classes that are optional and have nothing to do with sexuality or woke culture! I agree that public schools are cesspools that aren’t even teaching the basics anymore because the DPI insists on teaching woke crap, sexual topics and indoctrination of leftist ideology. It’s a damn shame but that’s where we’re at now and we better collectively step up and try to save our children, the hope of the future!

Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

I don’t have the money for a cruise either, but my home schooled daughter is home schooling her 5 yo daughter.

I do have the money for a little workbook we use to “play schoolworker” and I already had bookshelves full of books to read, so I’m helping as much as I can. She appreciates it very much.

Bones's avatar

Wow, grandparents get slim and bless your grandkids at the same time. An unbeatable deal.

Susan's avatar

Even "Christian Schools" are getting questionable, I used to work as a Medical assistant at St. Thomas Univ in MN, long ago, and they now have, from what I have heard, gone queer/lefty in their agenda's

Smatse's avatar

When my children were small and on, I consciously avoided checkout aisles that had magazines with sexually suggestive and scantily-clad models on the covers, along with sexually suggestive articles titles on the cover. Bah humbug, it's already been bad enough - I remember when I was shock after finding out my middle school library had books with the F bomb in it. How quaint that seems now.

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CH's avatar

It is really bad. My son's aide at school said student behavior is off the charts because nothing is done about it.

Elaine H's avatar

The ‘nothing being done about it’ begins at home. Schools are not disciplinarians. Parents are.

Jeff C's avatar

It's both. Schools act "in loco parentis" (in place of the parent) under the law. Schools have a legal obligation to enforce discipline. Please don't try and slough this off by blaming it on bad parents when the school administration refuses to do their job. There are kids in school who do behave themselves, yet the schools unwillingness to punish bad kids harms them. The schools have completely abrogated their responsibility.

Bottom line though, this is why we have our kids in a *biblical* Christian school. It's not just having good teachers but good kids too. Parents have to sacrifice to send their kids there, it's not just a babysitting dumping-ground while both parents work. My kids are surrounded by kids from good homes who do behave themselves. And if they misbehave they get disciplined and ultimately expelled if they don't turn it around.

My son started in middle school here after attending public elementary school. After two weeks I asked him what the biggest difference was. "The kids at the Christian school don't cuss" was his answer. Quite telling in hindsight.

CH's avatar

I agree that discipline begins at home but the schools are allowing the bad behavior because the adminstrators are not holding students accountable for their actions. The school board actually told the administrators not to do anything about bad behavior. It really is just a snapshot of our society in general, though.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Masking children was torture.

CH's avatar

It really is a crime what they did to our children.

OnTheJump's avatar

"Divide and Conquer" takes on many forms.....well done, Brandon.

They have torn us up, turned us inside-out.

Family, education, the workplace, the economy and even so many of our fine cities - to name a few of the negatively impacted areas where our lives have been harmed.

Easier, at this point, to make a list of that which their 'magic touch' has not fubar'd.... because THAT list is but a blank page. Imho.

SB's avatar

My homeschooled son won't have much to do with most public school kids he knows. He said they all act horribly.

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Sharon's avatar

Good for you!!! Completely homeschooled my son on a shoestring. True! There are soooo many resources out there! We started with Saxon Math (after I taught him to read and basic math) with the Robinson Curriculum. Then we streamed online or used on CD: AP Prep courses/Advanced Physics/Biology/Calculus/Chemistry taught by a Christian with a PhD and degrees in science and engineering (check out Dive Into Math). It CAN be done! (He was also asked his freshman year in college to be a TA for a Botany class he was taking! Later, his economics professor wanted to nominate him for a Fulbright Scholarship - but after I explained to him what that REALLY entails - he declined.) My son graduated cum laude in Mechanical Engineering and bought his first home the day before he turned 24. He's a successful engineer who just married a homeschooler with a Biology degree.

Renea Buchholz's avatar

I home educated mine and now my daughter has hers at home. Would not every consider differently

Renea Buchholz's avatar

No regrets, except to say I would make a lot of changes in how I did it

Fred's avatar

Family member strongly considering for the future; any insight on your changes in “how I did it?” TIA!

Debra S Heard's avatar

Every child needs to be protected! As a teacher I have taught at both private and public schools. One city school I taught at, the meals at schools were the only meal theses children got during the day. A lot of their parents were on drugs or in prisons. Very few had fathers at home. You think these parents care if their children is reading sex books?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Closing the schools down was the worst decision ever.

Randi Weingarten, head of the teacher's union, is evil.

Rosalind McGill's avatar

I used to live in Weedsport and Baldwinsville. (&a typical alcoholic family system here..)

VanLife Views's avatar

NAB

Wow... that all sounds amazing. Best to him and his schooling. Good for you and your family

Intents Of The heart's avatar

Yes, 3 graduated and 2 more almost finished with a home education predicated on the works of great authors under the educational philosophy of Charlotte Mason. See amblesideonline.org for a free and wonderful K-12 educational plan. You won't be sorry!

Leo's avatar

NAB - What a concept! Plus, the adults add to their own education along the way.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

“Do not let your heart be troubled; believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also. And you know the way where I am going.” Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going. How do we know the way?” Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father but through Me.”

— John 14:1-6 LSB

Gma HighDesert Oregon's avatar

Thank you Janice for your relevant and valuable contribution of Gods word in daily commentary on Coffee & Covid. I look forward to your posts now daily and it’s helping me to get back into regular morning Coffee & God’s Word time.

Much gratitude from Sodom & Gamora oops I mean Oregon.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

I visited Oregon a year ago in the spring. Portland looked sad, but that shoreline, wow! God bless you!

Karen Bandy's avatar

The coast is the best place in the world. I always wish for a beach house, above the Tsunami 🌊 zone though 😉

Debra's avatar

I'm at 500 feet but if the Cascadia happens I will not be safe. Yay, I will go to my real home with Jesus!

Dean's avatar

Hi Gma....Central Oregon boy here (Lava Bear 68). Good to see the High Desert gang represented at C&C.

FH's avatar

My nephew moved there with his family I think in 2021. Extremely successful corporate guy (insurance). I sure hope there enough of you guys left in that town to influence him and his family to swallow the red pill, or at least reject the blue pill they apparently swallowed long ago.

Dean's avatar

Now in Huntsville, AL. Knew Jess Hubbs class of 70. You related?

Karen Bandy's avatar

Gma, I’m in the high desert!! Coffee sometime?

Gma HighDesert Oregon's avatar

Hi Karen

Would love too! I’m East of Bend 5 min from Costco.

Karen Bandy's avatar

I’m southeast, by Horse Butte, 7 minutes from Costco. 😂Karen@karenbandy.com

Mandy's avatar

I’m in Bend too! What a small world! 💜

Karen Bandy's avatar

Let’s all meet! Look for my email in the comments.

Debra's avatar

I actually think we are in H. E. double L. Sodom and Gomorrah was mainly sexual perversion while in Oregon we have every evilness under the sun running rampant.

Birger Carlsen's avatar

GOmora.......... Duhhhhh.

Lisa Ca's avatar

Yes Jesus, you have gone to prepare a place for us! Thank you

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

A sure and settled hope! Hallelujah!

Sarah Beth's avatar

Thank you Janice 🙏

Raptor's avatar

Someone should send John 14:1-6 to Andrew Klavan. He seems to believe there are many ways to everlasting life with the Triune Godhead. Heard him say it on Dave Rubin's You Tube interview. Made me sad.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

You would think that somewhere along the way he would have encountered the "I am the way, the truth, and the life, and no one comes to the Father but through Me" part.

Raptor's avatar

I think he does not want to be exclusive. He was talking to a Jew who was rediscovering his faith in God. Convenient but not very loving. Since he is in rediscovery mode Dave could have been encouraged to reconsider Jesus.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

The fact is that the Gospel is exclusive. :/

Politico Phil's avatar

This is the statement that got Jesus in trouble with the religious establishment or should I say the Jewish church in His day. Between that and His statement in reply to the question about the Roman coin and Caesar's authority, which was also brought by the Jewish authorities, He was condemned by the Jews as a heretic and by the Romans as a revolutionary guilty of treason. Without a doubt, He knew what he was doing. "No one comes to the Father but through Me." He just plainly stated that all those that reject Him as the Messiah do not worship God.

Birger Carlsen's avatar

Now that the IDF's job of ethnically creansing the Gaza strip is just about finished, having killed off even Christian families en mass, I thought I'd remind the entire Coffee & Covid crew about an unpleasant fact. I dare you all to pick up your Bible and go read the book of Revelations, Chapter 2, verse 9. I hope each and everyone of you will think long and hard about whom you have been supporting since 7 October.

Barnjai's avatar

Back in the Stone Age when I was in grade school, we didn’t even know (or care) if our teachers were married, much less, their sexual preferences. We did, however know the multiplication and division tables and how to write in cursive. We read books like “Ted and Sally” and “Billy and Blaze” and none of them were experimenting sexually or confused about their gender. We were children and we were protected like children should be. Those days were far from perfect but schools were for learning not reeducation.

T Kosse's avatar

My grade school was taught by nuns. Needless to say, sexual orientation had never been heard of.

Copernicus's avatar

Billy and Blaze!

Discovered those a few years ago for our kiddo. Delightful!

Barnjai's avatar

If you want to teach a little girl to read give her a book about a horse

Barnjai's avatar

They were my favorite! Blaze and the Forest Fire!

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Dean's avatar

Hahahaha! The only reason I DIDN’T think that is my parents were teachers. 🤭

Based Florida Man's avatar

Regarding pedo content on social media, it's telling that Disney pulled their advertising from Twitter (where such content is banned) but is still shilling on Facebook, where such content thrives.

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI is behind some of the pedo stuff on facebook, trolling for people of influence it can blackmail.

Yep, I've heard so many conspiracies that's where my mind goes these days.

lynn's avatar

The most horrible truth about the tech industry is that it is owned by child predators. They could stop it today but they don't want to. They know about it and let it continue. Thats why Zuckerburger fixed the elections. For protection against prosecution.

CH's avatar

100%. I think many political leaders are guilty of the same thing.

lynn's avatar

news out tonight Disney leader is top Biden donator organizer. Pedo world

Lisa Ca's avatar

Funny ypu say this, I hate to say it about anyome but he sure looks like he could be one himself. I just cringe.

Vonu's avatar

You are claiming that everyone who works in the tech industry is a child predator?

Vonu's avatar

Most tech industry organizations are not managed by their owners, and I doubt that most of their managers are known to you. .

Jeff C's avatar

Yes, that's exactly what he's claiming. From the CEO down to the guy who scrubs the toilets at night. Every last one of them.

Come on Vonu, I know you are smarter than this. You knew what he meant.

Vonu's avatar

I'm not as psychic as you are.

Wars frequently begin because someone who didn't assumes that he did.

If you use tech, you must be one as well.

lynn's avatar

if we could have a safe tech space that did not support and profit of off destroying kids and other humans that would be great. If you work for tech and know they help sell kids for $$$ then your the worst.

STH's avatar

I have no inside knowledge of anything, and yes I’m generalizing, BUT I’ve worked in various industries around super nerdy tech people. They were surprisingly and bizarrely kinky if you know what I mean. So the leap to pedophelia does not surprise me one bit.

Truth 101's avatar

Cheeky, Conflating "super nerdy tech people" with pedophilia is akin to equating "anti-vaxxers" as conspiracy theory undesirable Grandma killers. As for Zuckerberg it is beyond evil that he allows child porn to proliferate on Facebook and Instagram.

STH's avatar

As I said, I know I’m generalizing. Just stating my personal and very surprised experience 🤣

Vonu's avatar

I tend to believe that people that think everyone else is suspect are the most suspicious.

Since you are being pretty kinky in your own way without elucidation, your leaping to sexual perversions might be natural for you.

STH's avatar

Nope. My first job out of college I shared an office with a very smart “nerdy” girl who shared all sorts of stories about her sexapades with her various smart nerdy boyfriends. Pretty shocking now that I look back on it. But I was 23 and new to the company so I plead immaturity. Sorry if this struck a nerve for you.

FourWinds's avatar

The overall goal, I still think, is to kill and maim as many as possible. Kill = off "useless eaters" and "save the planet". Maim = more money for big pharma.

I sat through the Hunger Games (original) plus the new movie last night. Usually a hard pass for me on anything not horror, but then I realized that while it's not horror, it is horrifying. I found myself livid during both films at times. I thought how could those districts put up with all the capital b.s.? Who agrees to send a child to die? Then I realized (never read any of the books so I am conjecturing) that the whole thing of capital versus districts likely it started off with a small power grab by the capital to "protect" and "care for" people, which translates to control. The more control you give a person, the more they take.

When you take a person's choices away, slowly, they adapt to it and can't even see they are in prison. I see us at that stage. Most in this country are still so brainwashed that they believe the government is here to save them from this and that scary virus, and it's those brainwashed people, much more than the government itself, who are so dangerous. I therefore refuse to shut my mouth about the truths (plural!) coming out. I finally got a coworker to stop wearing a mask and now she calls the whole virus thing b.s. The next time I see her I am going to introduce her to C&C. :) One person at a time.

rolandttg's avatar

The brainwashing has been deliberate, calculated, and systematic. TV, movies, radio and microwave frequencies, chemtrails, food adulteration, pesticides and herbicides, indoctrination centers (schools) , Those most susceptible ie. the young, lack of self discipline, no moral compass, Bacchus instead of Apollo, lacking gratitude, selfish, etc are the most susceptible. I doubt there are any on this forum who were not, and continue to be, utterly stunned by the level of compliance to tyranny exhibited by the normies during the plandemic and beyond.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Goebbels knew that the best way to control people was through fear.

Dr Linda's avatar

Mercola has an interesting post today highlighting David Martin’s work. Check it out.

Peace's avatar

Wow, that David Martin video is something else! I'm scratching my head wondering why no attorney/s have taken his info and run with it. Seems to be a disconnect - is his info (appears to be well backed up and documented) incorrect? Or is there some reason no attorney will touch it? I haven't finished the video, so maybe he has an explanation why no one is utilizing his info.

rolandttg's avatar

FYI. I have read that hunts such as these are really conducted by the Khazarian controllers. It is a given that Hollywood predicts and mimics real events.

Cynthia Ford's avatar

I loved the books, and her other series, The Underland Chronicles, a saga of creatures that live beneath NYC, with a thinly veiled Hitler-esque rabbit named The Bane. For preteens.

SadieJay's avatar

Even though my coffee is wonderful, it was a pretty disgusting middle to today's post. I really appreciate you and your research. It is always good to be well informed. Now that I am in the know, I have to go throw up.

Jeff C's avatar

Yeah, I have to skip over most of this stuff, just a quick scan to get the gist. Reading too much of this stuff isn't good for the soul, IMO.

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Copernicus's avatar

And our amygdalas. 😆 but actually being quite serious. The part of our brains involved in detecting safety/threat.

FourWinds's avatar

I hear you! Pedophiles make me do that. The push to sexualize children makes me barf, too. The people in control who have ZERO respect for those they are controlling make me throw up double time.

rolandttg's avatar

I hate to tell you, but I imagine you have just scratched the surface on pedophelia, sex slavery, organ harvesting, and andrenochrome. Whatever you know, it is Far worse , than your most horrible nightmare. Sorry, but that is why we have no choice but to fight them to the end, and why most normies refuse to look or listen to this vision of hell on (and under) earth .

SadieJay's avatar

I know about the fight and will battle where I am most effective. Even though I would love to be the trigger puller on these evil people.

Valerie's avatar

I feel like this too... well said.

Michele's avatar

The pedophilia part made me really sad, honestly. Heavy, heavy heart.

SadieJay's avatar

Sad, sick, heavy, disgusted and, I know that vengeance belongs to God, but it, in my human outrage, I would love to help Him in that department. I do thank God for the souls willing to bait and trap these evil people. How it must weigh on them as they try to have a normal life after seeing the evidence.

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Lynne Ferreira's avatar

Believed it from the start. I’ve been a rabbit hole conspiracy theorist since Jonestown when I was just 17. 🐇 🕳️ Everything keeps coming true now.. not so crazy after all and that tin foil hat suits me. 😂

Susan Seas's avatar

I just saw a local news clip about how cold weather causes strokes … I don’t know how anyone has survived living in places like North Dakota! My blood pressure got so elevated I almost had a stroke!!!!! This is why I rarely watch tv channels.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Toss your TV.

You will thank me later.

Fred's avatar

“Family sues Panera, saying its caffeinated lemonade led to Florida man's cardiac arrest.” I’d like to see that discovery. How many copycat lawsuits will follow?

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SJacob1957's avatar

Last time I was at Panera, there was as a warning sign posted on the lemonade about its high caffeine content! 😳

Michele's avatar

It apparently was 260 mgs per drink--a LOT.

Coffee 80-100.

This is one where you want the Panera lawyers citing all kinds of jab-induced heart issue evidence!

Fred's avatar

I understand that it is highly caffeinated, but at least one energy drink has more, and the SADS didn’t seem to occur as often.

Fred's avatar

And now there’s a second case, incidentally filed by the same attorney.

PamelaZelie's avatar

Thanks for a morning chuckle, Susan.

FourWinds's avatar

I think TV is bad for health.

Politico Phil's avatar

News flash! The News causes strokes.

Valerie's avatar

I happened to listen to Megyn Kellys show the day after the debate, and first, she had no idea that Rumble went off line during the vaccine question. But it was just rumble, not widespread, and since Rumble’s actual reason for being is to allow free speech, I doubt there was anything sinister. Also, I’m really glad a vaccine question was FINALLY asked at one of these debates, even if it was not perfect.

Judas mac's avatar

Don Jr. is on Rumble exclusively along with the likes of Dan Bongino, Steven Crowder, Steve Bannon, etc. All very much pro-Trump. Also, Truth Social and Rumble are tied together financially and with shared infrastructure as reported a couple of months ago.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/truth-social-join-rumbles-advertising-platform-2022-08-23/

This was not an anti-Vivek move, it was attempting to protect Trump. It’s the same reason Trump won’t debate, he has no good conservative answers to his record on Covid.

Mazel Lee's avatar

This is VERY interesting. I’ve not been happy with Trump over these vaccines.

So wait, it was only censored on RUMBLE??? Now, THAT’S not weird or anything. (Sarcasm)

Lisa Ca's avatar

Hi Jeff- I don’t know what network you are referring to but I heard the question and his comment. No blackout. I watched on NewsNation.

Aside I hated the question because it clearly framed Trump as the bad guy but Viveks response was great! He is the first to call out the sick model health system. I just wish more was said about injuries.

I am certain that I heard his answer and no blackout because I distinctively remember thinking - good for you Vivek for not giving in to the bait and even addressing if “Trump should be proud”.

Jessica Libolt's avatar

Yeah. I came here to say this. It appears the blackout was only on Rumble which is weird considering they’re a free speech platform.

Lisa Ca's avatar

Very wierd! Makes you wonder if they too are bought off now. Or maybe, doubtful, but maybe it was a glitch.

Emumundo's avatar

I doubt Rumble would censor the answer. I think they left France rather than comply with censorship demands.

Oregon Kathy's avatar

I love the way Vivek takes on tough questions. He is an example to the others to get brave and say it like it is. And he never denigrates Trump, but goes after the bad guys.

Valerie's avatar

It was Rumble that blacked out for a few min.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Disappointed that Rumble would black it out.

Why? Someone needs to answer that question.

Valerie's avatar

On Megyn’s show she said they followed up with Rumble and it was a legit technical issue, they had receipts to show. But I was listening, not watching, so I didn’t see what these said receipts were.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Too "convenient" that the glitch concerned the covid death shots and not some other subject.

Jlbg8r@gmail.com's avatar

I thought Megyn and Trump had patched things up. Not so sure now

dagny awoke's avatar

I was in a forum last year where a panicked user shared that the night before they had become drunk at the home of a wealthy individual who, after becoming intoxicated, shared that in the near future people will find out the jabs were harmful and panic will ensue. The ultimate goal will be a loss of trust in governments. The articles published yesterday could be a drip of a much greater dam. Hopefully not. Sending light to everyone this season.

FourWinds's avatar

The only flaw I see in that is I believe the people who believe in the jabs have been brainwashed. Not the simple kind. Years now of propaganda and terror coming in every form of media. These people are so brainwashed they don't know they are brainwashed, and that means the chances of them dialing back their thinking is not good. I do believe that the truth will come out and the non-brainwashed folks will go after these people hard. I'm all for whatever we can do to legally take down every one of these murderers.

CH's avatar

Admitting you have been fooled by people you trust is a very bitter pill to swallow. Many people will just never accept it. I am not jabbed and thought the whole pandemic was a scam from the beginning however, I had already come to the realization prior to 2020 that our government is not the good guys which had me depressed for quite some time afterwards.

rolandttg's avatar

That's why the normies refuse to wake up. You cannot unsee what you have seen once the veil has been lifted. No one wants to believe your governments are the enemy, that everything you have ever been told officially is a lie, that all of the shootings are government sponsored false flags to terrorize us and push an agenda, the the people ruling the earth are not the 1 %, but the 0.00001 percent , and that we have been lied to and ruled by them for millennia , not decades. That kind of paradigm shit scares them worse than enduring the ever greater tyranny being heaped upon us. So they will continue to hide, until there is no where else to hide. And, that day is nigh,, , certainly before Nov 24.

Jpeach's avatar

All you can do is pray for the hopelessly brainwashed. Most of family and friends are in my prayers.

FourWinds's avatar

Agreed, but I still won't shut up about this whole topic, either. I've lost family and friends by doing it, but I will not shut up.

Debra's avatar

Silence is not golden. It is death. I refuse to shut up either.

Renea Buchholz's avatar

I spent time with a family member/ friend the other evening. We touched in the subject of cancer, autoimmune problems and I mentioned the jabs. She and her husband are very well educated, world travelers, well read etc. We gingerly discussed it. They have both had all their jabs. Especially because they could only visit their children in Australia if they jabbed and quarantined at the time. I was careful, and explained a bit but the bottom line is. If they refuse to consider something, cognitive dissonance, then they won't research it or read up on it. So hoping at some point they will get it or choose to look at it.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I am convinced that "gingerly discussed" will not be fruitful.

Renea Buchholz's avatar

Well if it leaves the door open to throw in more later, it will be. She usually avoids it, and mentions that we disagree, but I said hey, we are friends and mature enough that we can handle it carefully. And she agreed. Little bits.

Temcol's avatar

I already don’t trust government nor pharm nor medical doctors. The first because they only want power and control and manipulate with words and money to get it. The second because they lie and are only looking for the payout. They don’t care at all about human beings. We are only test subjects. The third because MOST are receiving kick backs for meds they prescribe and many don’t update their education nor do they have any nutritional education. Food is the first medicine. Diet changes and scrutiny of the ingredients in prepared foods is the first best course of action . Also, medical professionals are over burdened with patients which takes time away from their ability to update their knowledge and to read studies. Many practice symptom treatment and never treat the source of the symptoms. People are getting sicker and sicker and food companies are pumping out more and more garbage that tastes really good but is killing us. When you call to make an appointment with your doctor how long do you have to wait? Weeks? Months? Our world is broken.

PE Bird's avatar

Here is the aspect of LGBTQ+++ "education" that is most concerning:

To learn something you are first taught the ideas - which takes time to understand. Like math - you learn to count then you have to practice problem solving (adding, subtracting, etc.).

So, what is the practice that happens after learning about this sexualized theory? Are the kids to figure it out on their own? Do the teachers lead workshops? Do they outsource the exercises?

There is no learning without theory plus practice. That is why this is grooming.

Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

That whole scenario makes me nauseous--but you are totally correct in what you state, PE!

Based Florida Man's avatar

"Study shows that the Covid 19 Vaccine is RE-ACTIVATING viruses and diseases that were once dormant in people."

https://twitter.com/DiedSuddenly_/status/1733491237972328816

LS Woodruff's avatar

When you consider that all vaccines are meant to in some way alter our God given immune systems, this should come as no surprise, right?

FourWinds's avatar

I would believe that. In my non-scientific, uneducated opinion, they are weakening the immune system so it's easy for any pathogen to take over.

Oregon Kathy's avatar

Oh no, I thought. But they only mention shingles. Phew, I knew that. They didn't give a link, what other diseases, do you know?

Alison Smith's avatar

So the "conspiracy theories" about Pizza Gate are true? Imagine that...

Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

Well, the reporter who “debunked” it got arrested for child porn. Sooooo.

WP William's avatar

Alex Jones and others VINDICATED. Why must he be right again?

Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

"Sex is not love, and love is not sex."

Someone should inform those who write song lyrics.....especially the Country Music enclave.

WP William's avatar

The Pagans Worship SEX in all its forms, the more deviant the better, abortion and infanticide and child grooming are ALL parts of the worship...a healthy whole innocent child is abhorrent to them and their gods. Love is quite a different Holy, Godly, dynamic productive and constructive relationship and sacred covenant. Pagans define the word love as they wish and falsify and adulterate and make us complicit in their dishonesty if possible..

FourWinds's avatar

With respect, I know some have that reputation, but there are nuts, deviants, and extremists in all religions/paths. But I have to say I am closer to pagan than anything else, and I most certainly do not, never have, and most definitely will even consider harming another living entity with no reason, especially a child. (It's impossible to live without harming something - people have to eat.) I am a survivor of childhood sexual abuse and will always fight against it. I have never known a pagan personally who would harm a child, and if I did, I most certainly would not "know" then any more because I'd have nothing to do with them. The Creator I know does not and would not want a person to harm another. Maybe I'm off, but I can't define "love" since it is a deeply held conviction, much more so than a feeling. I do know love does not harm others and for those I love, I will fight to defend them.

Please understand there are those out here, even us 'pagans', who find the idea of harming children horrendous. It makes us as sick as it makes you. There are those of us, me being one, who will fight it as hard as others in mainstream religions. We pagans are not all the same. I live by one law: Harm None. Hurting anyone violates that and I will. not. do. it.

WP William's avatar

Anarcho-Pagan may be a better definition--a rebellious, anti-Nature, anti-Creator, anti-humanity mindset and adherence and prone to Evil, death, destruction. Your definition of pagan (animistic?) is perhaps more reflective of a harmonious life and inclusivist view of one's existence within Community, Nature, and deference to the Creator/Divine Intelligence--this is often used as camouflage by the Neo-Occultic Elitist Pagans who mask their depravity and death-devouring lusts behind a more wholistic Taoist (Circle of Life) or Humankind Covenant with a Supreme Being, all the while subverting this very thing in their insatiable lust to vanquish decency and be the arbiters of good and evil by counterfeiting both.

FourWinds's avatar

I'm not sure I fit a definition, but I hear what you are saying. Yes, my goal is to be in harmony with life, not against it. I don't want t be around those who are anti-humanity, that is for sure. Sadly, bad apples spoil the whole bunch. It's like the Catholic priests who have molested children. Certainly not all have, but the ones that do can taint the feeling towards all priests, I am guessing the majority of whom are doing no harm. The majority of pagans don't fit the evil mold, at least that has been my experience, but certainly there are those you describe, too.. I have no respect for anyone who follows evil regardless of what religion or path they hide behind.

Cynthia Ford's avatar

So sorry that happened to you. I know many many people whose perpetrators hide behind mainstream religions. Here's Ibn Arabi, the Sufi mystic (just to provide some perspective, since there is free speech here on this Christian blog)

O marvel! A garden amidst fires!

My heart has become receptive of every form: it is a pasture for gazelles, a monastery for Christian monks,

A temple for idols, the Ka’bah of the pilgrim,

the tables of the Torah, and the book of the Qur’an.

I follow the religion of love. Wherever its camel mounts turn,

that is my religion and my faith.

https://ibnarabisociety.org/the-encompassing-heart-kautsar-noer/

Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I have noticed in the past 3 decades that the USA is becoming more and more "pagan" in its focus and lifestyle choices. Why is this happening? I ascribe most of the moral depravity to the REMOVAL of PRAYER and BIBLE READING in our public schools (which happened just as I was graduating in 1964). The Word is sharper than any 2-edged sword--and NEVER returns to the Author void. But if people never hear or read the Word--they are left to their own sinful nature and Lucifer's "whispers" in their souls!