Minn. muslims invoke religion against gay books; five pilot SADS in three weeks; five heart attacks in 16 months; GOP pulls vaccine question; Meta sued for grooming; Florida asks FDA about SV40; more.
Seriously, hats off to the Muslims in Minnesota for fighting this. They apparently have no problem standing up for their religious beliefs and I agree 100% that children should not be offered material that is sexual in nature. Not just gay, though, all indoctrination of children about anything sexual ahold be completely off limits. I think that's a push to normalize pedophilia, which is - luckily - still a hard NO by 99.99% (I believe) of the citizens of this country.
Yes. But how could parents request merely to *opt out* of a thoroughly perverted school culture, and why should the exemption be only a religious one. How parents can continue to send their kids to public or private schools that perpetrate these moral atrocities, is beyond me. There needs to be a tidal wave of homeschooling across the nation (and mine, which is Canada. The system is rotten to the core. But the muslims' lawsuit is better than nothing of course.
I'm no lawyer, but I bet that if the Muslims win this one, it should logically go that any parent could object based on their religious views. I agree that it should not be based on religion, it's based on morals. And of course porno material does not belong around children in the first place.
I think the only way to truly "opt out" is to remove your child and I'm all for pulling kids out if possible. But, there are parents who absolutely can't do that. They work 2-3 jobs to keep their family living inside. Homeschool and private school is out of the question. So, I'd like to see all of these perverts voted out of school boards and that crap removed from libraries.
A parent should not have to "opt out" - that is unfortunate, if an " only option " - and ridiculous.
Parents should be able to voice their opinions, and have said opinions actually listened to and any reasonable concerns acted upon, at the ever-popular School Board meeting......of course, in our current 'woke world' - THAT parent becomes a Domestic Terrorist, who only wants to burn books.
What a terrible 'left turn' the US has taken. How do we 'right's the ship ?
I believe we are slowly moving towards communities creating their own schools, medical centers and food growing collective. Keep sharing your message, it's moving in the right direction.
There are also a lot of self sustainable living communities that do this as well. They are all over the world. The best thing would be for people to seek them out and join them to help the collective grow and spread.
But I have a feeling that the government is going to do something drastic and we will all be forced to do this. They didn't get their recipe right for covid and what ever they release next is going to impact everything as their AI isn't ready to handle the change. I hope I'm wrong but Im planning for the worst and hoping for the best.
They can do this because they have formed a "separatist society" - totally off the grid power wise and they have their own "governance group" within each community. I live in a HUGE Amish conclave area called Lancaster, PA!
This is how it used to be before the government controlled schools. It really is how it should be now. Of course that terrifies the teachers’ union. They would have a lot less power as a result. In the long run, that would be the best thing for schools I believe. Many of these teachers are part of the problem. Not all of them, of course. There are a number of outliers who actually care about the kids unless about teaching their own ideology to them. Someday, I hope we will get back to teaching kids how to think and not what to think. That is how our country will thrive again.
The teacher unions are funded by the Rockefellers and all the teachers that fought for school closures should be fired, as a first step.
Good teachers will continue to leave this profession until things change, so in order to keep our best teachers, they need help exposing the root of the problem. It will happen, but these evil people unfortunately are very manipulative and it takes a lot of strength to challenge them. This can only happen by many people helping. I see so many people in these threads praying for their own soul to be saved when they should be praying for guidance on what they should be doing to help create heaven on earth. God isnt going to give us a miracle without us doing the work of God, humans are the infinite light and only by asking for giving the strength to others, can we collectively be the catalyst for change.
As long as I faction off with the sensible ones, I'm okay with that! One thing is for sure there are benefits to living with red neck hunters, I won't go hungry.
Speaking of which, I am hot on the trail of the lockstep program to limit people to 4 chickens. That's one egg a day per person - they are trying to starve us out with regulations.
In AZ parents can use the taxes that are spent on each child’s education to pay private school tuition and homeschool expenses. As a violin teacher, some homeschooling parents pay me with this fund. Also, citizens can designate their state tax to go to a particular student who is not in their household.
We can only use state funds if we enroll our children in charter schools here in California. I did that with my child when I homeschooled her but the state still had certain requirements that we had to meet.
Yes it is - that's why it's very important to support the VOUCHER SYSTEM so that you can choose to use those TAXES to send your children to a school that is following a moral code and NOT that of the Marxist/Progressive persuasion.
Agreed parents need to get ‘resourceful’ and team up with other parents...wake up..the Government and the free child care Education System is a total ‘dead end’ for your children.
Freedom of religion includes personal moral beliefs- according to case law- such as young men drafted during Vietnam era could have a personal moral belief against killing people without belonging to any formal religion.
Don't vote them out, recall and/or fire those responsible. Letting them serve out their terms only encourages more of this. While you're at it, fire the librarians as well. They could restrict access to inappropriate materials.
I don’t see why it should only be religious views. I am not particularly religious, but I wouldn’t want them to be teaching this to my child without my knowledge. They are teaching us at a very young age. Way too soon.
I agree totally. I'm 65, and parents who aren't involved with their children's schools are letting their own children down. The bottom line is that every parent needs to be involved in their children's education. That's so important. My three Grandsons go to the same School. I call that School as a Grandparent, and their School is doing the right things. Pledge everyday. Recess everyday, Gym, Music Programs, and Plays. Ive been so impressed with their Country School. No 5G!! No Cell Towers are on their property. We have been asked to think of Humanitarian Projects if money were no Issue. I want to Start Gardens at every School. The kids need to learn to plant, grow, and Harvest everything that we can. They need to learn how to wait and be patient and growing is a good way to start. The Canning process too. I know how to do it all. I want to set a presadence for every school to do the same thing. With as many retired gardeners that would love to Volunteer. I can't wait to make it happen. What kind of project is God asking you to do? Just ask Him. He will let you know, if you ask. God Bless
Don't forget that kids will learn some chemistry (soil acid balance and mixing stuff), math (measuring rows and production quantities), climate (rain amounts needed, snow and sunlight needs). Science (pests and photosynthesis). Just to name a few. ❤️
Our Creator God is always close by in ANY garden. "In the Garden" is my very favorite hymn of all. There'll be no thorns on heaven's roses--so I'm praying Jesus assigns me to be one of his "rose tenders".
Thank you for your spot on encouragement, Susan--I'm a Granna too and I have a 21 year old granddaughter who is training to become a kindergaraten teacher. I will pick her brain to see what she will do when "pushed" to allow this perverse material to enter the curriculum of the school where she'll be a teacher. I keep praying she'll migrate to a private school setting.
Well I will be praying with you for your beautiful Granddaughter!! Thank you for your compliment! God Bless you Granna and I hope you are staying encouraged during these awful hard times.
When the stakes are this high, it's imperative to find a way out. People also argued they "had no choice" to take the poison shot. No. There is always the heroic decision to buck the tide and deal with the consequences, which in the end are much less impactful than the harms of complying.
I just read an article that even the unvaxxed blood is showing signs of the nano particles from shedding, getting Covid or from the Covid test swabs. Ugh!!
I know lots of those people, it's so sad. I also know people who go to Whole Foods in their fur coats in (not so cold weather) and have cards full of junk processed foods full of sugar and all other toxins but "it's organic" ... blah, blah, blah - talk about "virtue signalling".
Same here. One so afraid of falling she would not come into my house up 3 steps without a hand rail. But she jogs outside 3 miles most days and yes, took the untested jabs.
Unfortunately, the "consequences" could be CPS taking children away from a family who lost their stable housing due when they lost their job for non-compliance. The "heroic decision" looks different when children are involved.
I have a very big fear for what is going to happen to the children of parents who dissent. I fight corruption in CPS and literally just wrote Florida CPS and the governor and told them that I 100% support parents opening the door with shotguns and using their 2a rights to protect their children from being stolen. In Florida, and many areas globally, if an abusive father returns to the home, they take the children instead of arresting the man and giving the mother support. As simple as that - it's all they need. There was one case where a Republican school board member wanted to treat her child with herbs not medicine and 4 police officers showed up at the hospital to take the child. I'm sure in this case it was stopped due to community support, but this happens all the time. It is very hard to believe that CPS can take a child without even interviewing the parent and child together and looking at the whole picture but they can and they will. It's estimated 700k children are removed wrongly from American parents each year.
These criminals in the family courts already have a system in place to illegally kidnap children and profit off it.
I would have moved to a sensible state first before taking the gene modification injection. There’s always a way. And unfortunately for them now, too many people weren’t brave enough to stand up. I have more than a few friends and fam in that category. Most of them with new and unusual ailments. Only a couple will admit their regret.
Joanie, If the network that carried the GOP debate can pull the plug on the one simple question that dealt with the jabs, then where are we in December 2023 that the whole "unsafe and ineffective" narrative will achieve common knowledge? The work of Katherine Watt, Sasha Lapatova, Baliwick etc that Sage has focused. All the questions that Sage brings attention are not occurring except in small circles not controlled by the media. Even the UK Covid Inquiry is not touching the real issues; just vaguely referring to suffering, but not more.
People will often write that people are waking up--Not.....in.....Oregon.
Not my congressman. He won't touch the jab issue other than to say no mandates.
Well I looked up Sage Hana and I couldn’t make heads or tails of that conglomeration of “news,”. So, please upload something that makes sense from Sage Hana.
So true. I still find it unbelievable that so many just folded when they were told to get the jab or else. Some were even proactive, begging for it. Remember the "just say no".
The stakes are that high! 😱 We are a 24 year homeschool family… We have been a one income family for that long… It’s been tough, but you make your choices based on your priorities… if we can do it… Anyone can! I don’t say that to brag… I say this to encourage EVERYONE to start down this wonderful path! And no, my husband is not some fancy engineer with a six figure salary…
And I say this again! It’s very tough, but absolutely worth it! We live in a small house… We have old cars… My car has 296,000 miles on it and it’s held together by heavenly duct tape! 💖😁🥰 we are recycling our books down through the children… Personally, math doesn’t change and history shouldn’t either!
1. Pray! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 then get onto HSLDA and find out your State’s home school rules and laws.
2. Contact people that can help you get started… People at church, friends, family members, etc.
3. Remember to not put your kindergarteners through college… 😱 allow a period of transition for your home and school.
4. Talk to your kids! Give reasons why this needs to happen…
5. Make sure you take all of this with a sense of humor! We have a very good friend right now who pulled his daughters out of public school in the 10th grade. He is now trying to repair their bad study habits… It’s very frustrating but we are encouraging him to have a sense of humor through all of this!
6. I’m sure there are other people who can add to this list… I’m encouraging them to chime in…
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 you can do this! I’m speaking to EVERYONE out there! 😊
That’s why they hated Trump’s choice for Education Secretary (I think that was her title). She was for school vouchers so people could homeschool, or choose private schools if I’m recalling correctly.
Fla Mom, I used to agree with what you are saying until I learned more about that argument. As a homeschooling family, I now believe it’s critical to not depend on ANY money from the government and look for ways to help those in need without relying on the government to be the solution. This is short video does a great job presenting an alternative argument to homeschoolers and other alternative schools accepting taxpayer $ - https://youtu.be/13YdgSfV_gE?si=qddlvfl7z0TE_ldB
I write this personally knowing a couple of single mamas who have homeschooled for years while working full-time and manage to make it work. We need the help of family, neighbors, friends and churches who don’t want to be part of the corrupt gov’t school system to work together to be the solution - NOT government/tax-payer money! It takes a village - and we all need to be looking for ways to help one another with alternative solutions.
and support that don’t want their kids in government schools and can’t afford or don’t wish to send their kids to private schools.
The argument he summarizes, that his friend gave, has the problem that we already all pay into universal government education through our taxes. His other two examples are new areas where leftists are trying to get taxpayer money involved, but have not yet succeeded. The two situations are not comparable. Since we already pay into the government school system, the question is whether the money will support students or systems. I find it hard to believe, even these days, that anyone would be forced to take money that must be applied for by intentional action on the part of the family. The system would rather that the money stay in system, not be given to families.
His next example is of a woman who already homeschools and who was able to stay at home full time instead of work part time. That is not the group the money will help the most. The people that the school choice money is most helpful for are inner-city families whose children are trapped in government schools that fail to the extent that their children 'graduate' without knowing reading, writing, and arithmetic. When there are programs made available to those populations, they typically have waiting lists, but there have never been enough programs to undercut the existence of the (criminal, really) government schools that do not educate. These are the people who are more likely to already take government money in other areas of their lives anyway, so adding these funds will not turn them into apostate Christians on this one point.
Finally, I think it's amusing that it's Robert Bortens making this case. We tried CC for one semester and were sorely disappointed on several counts. It's very expensive; the curriculum isn't that good; the tutors are not necessarily effective (ours *really* wasn't); and the attempt to cover all areas ended up meaning that students were on very different levels of Latin and math, so those sessions were mostly a waste of time. Finally, I later found out that there are legitimate concerns about the business model and contracting practices while using tax-exempt churches for a profit-making enterprise.
For *many* families, particularly inner-city families, school choice dollars are the fastest, most efficient way to rescue their children from dead-end school systems while providing competition for government schools. School choice programs are not perfect and are not the final end, but they are a good beginning for those who choose to use them, for now, at least. We should not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. As the programs begin to decay and become corrupted, as is very likely, then we can cross that bridge. Meanwhile, get people used to the idea that families are in charge of decisions about education and that there are many valid alternatives to government schools.
I was a part of 3 different CC communities for 5 years, and we are currently taking a break from community this year for personal reasons. I can see the pros and cons to Classical Conversations and there is no perfect curriculum or homeschool community. It’s not everyone’s cup of tea, and I get it, but I personally see the value of it - especially in a great community (not all are) but we’ve been blessed to be a part of a wonderful one the past several years. Good biblical leadership makes a huge difference. If you haven’t fully experienced all they have to offer or understand the logic behind what the program is and how the curriculum builds on itself, it’s easy to see how some think poorly of it and miss what I think is the heart behind it. All that being said, we follow where God leads us and aren’t tied to CC or one way of homeschooling. We are responsible for our kids’ education, the question is how much we’ll outsource and what things align what the Lord is calling us to do for our children. The curriculum should serve us, not the other way around. So for me, I’ve seen it as one of many tools to reach my kids and been in community with other faithful families who support one another in educating our kids. CC is a for-profit business (I’ve never heard them claim they weren’t) and anyone is free to choose whether or not they see the value in paying for this resource. I hope you found a better fit for your family, Fla Mom. And I don’t know the answer to the inter-city issues (you bring up good points) but do believe those of us who follow Jesus, the church, can and should be part of the solution.
I personally saw what happened in 2018 when I lived in TX - how a group that was against CC anonymously sent letters to churches (this included the one we met out of) about the possible issue with their tax-exempt status. I personally don’t think that came from a group with godly motives. I have friends who have left CC and I know disagreed with their business practices. We all have different opinions and that’s ok. I’ve extensively researched the issues that have been voiced. I’m a CPA and can see where some have concerns but ultimately don’t agree that CC is doing anything unethical and it’s just one of many homeschooling support options.
All that being said, Robert Bortins arguments aren’t the only ones that have led me to believe what do about taking taxpayer money. That was just a brief clip that I thought made some good points. There’s so much more to consider. A friend told me that “In CA homeschooling, 97% of CC families were publicly funded by the gov’t. The state statue states that they are not to teach religious content. It IS a battle.” A statistic she learned in 2018 was that 3% of the US K-12 population were registered as homeschooled and only 10% of that 3% were completely independent from public curriculum (funded or unfunded). There are underlying forces at work - the enemy doesn’t want parents to rely on the Lord for the their children’s education. If you have a few minutes - this is worth watching and considering what forces are at work in this broken world - https://youtu.be/8w4TQd_c85I
I think school choice is wonderful AND I think it is a Trojan Horse. The money will most likely come with strings that are unacceptable at some point. IMO take the money until there are strings, but don't ever become dependent upon it.
I agree. If at all possible, and it's often a lot more possible than people imagine it to be, have only one income and homeschool. It typically requires frugality and giving up luxuries, but I know many people who do just that. The 'wealth' and richness comes in the human connections within the family and with others in the community. I see school choice money as a bridge away from government schools. Any pile of money will be a target for the usual suspects, so the school choice programs will go off the rails eventually.
Homeschoolers in NC already have to report vaccine status to the state in order to be in compliance. We do have the religious exemptions, but I always wonder how it would play out if no religious exemptions were available. Accepting gov money would certainly tie in.
Whose money funds public schools? Imagine that THAT money followed the student and that parents had real choice. The problem is NOT that parents can "only" afford public school. The problem is that the county and state take taxpayer money and spend it solely to meet political ends. Children are not educated to meet the children's needs; children are "educated" to meet politicians' "needs."
Then enlist grandparents to help, form a group where parents work together to provide a solid core education. If you ever sat in a public school classroom for a day you would be shocked at the amount of time wasted. The public school system is broken, just like healthcare is, and needs to be dismantled from top to bottom.
Then make friends with others who HS and do some trades in time , etc. People need to get creative first the sake of the kids. Get rid of one car, buy a smaller home, trim the budget. I’ve seen this work and was there as a friend to help other friends do these things.
Many claim they “can not live on one income”. Unless you are a single parent, there are ways to make it happen. Even if it means moving to a more affordable home or state. I’m sure there are some with very legit reasons. But there are far more, IMO, who with a little creativity and sacrifice could homeschool.
I stayed home with my boys. We all sacrificed!! But, when you raise your children without working, you have to be willing to do whatever it takes to conserve. My boys still cut open toothpaste tubes to get every bit of the paste out. Water off while brushing, turning water off when washing in the shower, (if warm enough), Waste not, want not.
We lived on one income a long time--until way after our daughter was out of college, which we paid for. Then I went to school and got a decent job with a pension. We still had nice things but nowhere near what younger people THINK they need.
This is reminding me of how my daughter (RN working in a hospital) had to use a religious exemption to avoid getting the goddamned Covid19 injections. We shouldn’t have to use religion as a reason for maintaining our civil rights. We should simply have to say ‘no’. I think this is a dangerous road (using religion as the only justification for maintaining our individual rights).
Glad to hear you say this, as I've maintained exactly that throughout. And even the Nuremberg Code that everyone thinks is the final word, isn't because it only stipulates "experimental" medical procedures. Whether a thing is deemed experimental or approved, ALWAYS there must be individual informed consent and choice.
Yup. We need to bring back ‘philosophical vaccine exemptions’… which many states used to have also… a few still do.
But really… the philosophical exemptions were the first to go… then they moved on to removing the religious vaccine exemptions… and now it’s perfectly clear why.
They always meant to remove a person’s ability to choose… they want no personal choice on the vaccine issue.
And given the Pope’s vaccine position 🤨 … the way the Catholic Church is positioning themselves on the vaccine issue … they’re undermining the religious exemption- certainly for Catholics … which was very upsetting for me.
I agree on the homeschooling...the ‘public school education system’ is seriously broken...just like every other ‘system’...Industrial Medical Healthcare Delivery System, The Government, media, et. al.
In a sanely moral society material such as this wouldn’t even be considered for youngsters at all! But considering the degeneracy of society today any such material should be an “Opt In” proposition rather than any “Opt Out.”
The elitist education establishment (on any level) is so out of control any laws passed (which is what it may take) should require “opt in” for any materials - sexual, SEL, CRT, Common Core (which basically opened doors to all this madness), revisionist history, etc.
“Education” today has become indoctrination into collectivist ideology.
And all I see being done by our “leaders” is more money thrown in & more programs created. Oh the growing bureaucracy!
I understand where you're coming from on the "opt in" point but seriously, would you even want your kids or grandkids sharing recess with classmates who were so opted? Filth has no place in any school, period.
Spot on Joanie....hope you are running for a seat on your local school board...or city council at least! You would have all the votes in my family....which is becoming quite large and conservative.
😄 In fact, I did just get myself, and two others of like mind elected to our local community planning committee, which doesn't have actual legal teeth but it's a start, as we can monitor and maybe have some influence on city council members. Our school board elections aren't for another two years unfortunately, and I'm known too widely as a black sheep, to make any inroads there. But am encouraging others in that direction.
I’m totally with you Joanie. What EVER will it take for Christian parents to remove their children from these filth-laden indoctrination centers? Where is the red line? I’m afraid the answer is that there is none. To home educate is a huge sacrifice for normal working people. It means a lower standard of living. Maybe a modest home with no hardwood floors, granite countertops, etc., all the really important things in life. Our values have been subtly shaped by our prosperity. We pay lip-service to Christian values but we don’t walk the talk. The Muslims seem to care more about the grooming of their children than we. This is to our shame. But big respect to them for taking the lead.
Who started thinking that "educating" youngsters about deviant sex was appropriate? I am still trying to wrap my head around it. It won't get them a good job. Especially if they can't read or write.
Canadians of every nationality, with a very large percentage of Muslims, marched together this summer in the Million Person March to protest against Drag Library shows, sexualized school programs, CRT, and the filth found in our Libraries. Our schools have become cesspools of sex promotion. The NORMAL school Administrators and faculty should be cleaning this absolute mess up. Children do NOT need to be taught this 100% inappropriate crap. It caught the news and counter protesters with the usual rainbow gear, Antifa with their umbrellas and the Trans screamers but the Parents far outnumbered them so Trudeau could at least not close down bank accounts but accused the parents of being transphobes and all his usual name calling, I think Colonizers was in there.
Good news! Religious exemptions don’t apply only for those who are religious. They apply for atheists as well and conscious objectors. I learned this when doing my research for refusing the vaccines.
I agree, Joanie. This is just one issue among many. Public school is socialist school and you are sending your kids off to indoctrination camp. *Free* government school cannot be assumed to be of high standards or morality. Parents are sending their impressionable kids off for many hours and have absolutely no idea what is being taught or what the world view of the teachers are. Then one day they see a book they don’t like and act as though they are completely shocked in the decisions of the administrators. Never mind all the other vast issues and social ideas forced upon your kids every day.
It is. But it's also a good thing because say for example all the re were made for the vaccines - all the people who wanted to opt out would have stopped fighting for others. When they don't give people the option, it will be their downfall as the people that have no clue and trusting in blind faith will be informed as to why people are wanting to opt out. Everything works against desperate people who seek total control.
I've watched training videos of these teachers who say they will find a way around it no matter what. One school is even getting someone to come in for 3 days to avoid permission slips and all sorts. What I have also seen is kids videoing their teachers bullying them to force them to watch it. Kids are protesting against this too and they might be creating a bigger problem then they know as they can deceive parents but kids are smart and as they grow older may form an internal resistance of their own.
Granted, it was eons ago but we had a science teacher offer a basic human sexuality course to us in 8th grade, girls separate from boys, and it was only after parents signed a permission form allowing the "talk". It covered human anatomy and how it all worked. I would bet very few of those permission notes would get signed if this was still required. Of course back then the word gay was not even around yet. Too bad we do not have a time machine. I'd go back to those days in a heartbeat.
I remember all that so well. Yep that’s how they taught it (and I grew up in San Francisco in the 60’s)
Can’t remember much about the class but it was the gym teacher teaching the class. Teachers overlapped in teaching classes in a couple subjects back in the day.
We also had wood and metal shop along with drivers Ed.
Boy drivers Ed would be great to bring back.
Long ago when my son was 10 he delved into building a Time Machine. Wish I could post a picture. He worked on this little metal contraption for years on and off. Using old household parts, chicken wire and an “on and off” light switch
We would talk about what time periods we would like to go visit.
I always stuck with the 70’s.
He wanted to see the 1400’s.... yikes
We had an aviator friend stop by one time and he saw that “machine” and said “oh yeah don’t try and take that through an airport TSA when you go fly to see grandma”
😂
He did take it into class to show the kids once.
Boy did it spark lots of conversations. Little kids with all kinds of times they wanted to visit.
Ok well my son really tried.... he poured his little heart into the whole idea and the making of it..... that’s no lie.
He believed with all his being it was going to work and people would be overjoyed.
5th grade teacher here. We give parents the option to 1) watch the film before the lesson, 2) sit in on the lesson, 3) opt their child out of the lesson. Simple. Respectful. No judgement. The parents knows best. (But this is NE, and we are still red)
Seriously, hats off to the Muslims in Minnesota for fighting this. They apparently have no problem standing up for their religious beliefs and I agree 100% that children should not be offered material that is sexual in nature. Not just gay, though, all indoctrination of children about anything sexual ahold be completely off limits. I think that's a push to normalize pedophilia, which is - luckily - still a hard NO by 99.99% (I believe) of the citizens of this country.
Yes. But how could parents request merely to *opt out* of a thoroughly perverted school culture, and why should the exemption be only a religious one. How parents can continue to send their kids to public or private schools that perpetrate these moral atrocities, is beyond me. There needs to be a tidal wave of homeschooling across the nation (and mine, which is Canada. The system is rotten to the core. But the muslims' lawsuit is better than nothing of course.
I'm no lawyer, but I bet that if the Muslims win this one, it should logically go that any parent could object based on their religious views. I agree that it should not be based on religion, it's based on morals. And of course porno material does not belong around children in the first place.
I think the only way to truly "opt out" is to remove your child and I'm all for pulling kids out if possible. But, there are parents who absolutely can't do that. They work 2-3 jobs to keep their family living inside. Homeschool and private school is out of the question. So, I'd like to see all of these perverts voted out of school boards and that crap removed from libraries.
A parent should not have to "opt out" - that is unfortunate, if an " only option " - and ridiculous.
Parents should be able to voice their opinions, and have said opinions actually listened to and any reasonable concerns acted upon, at the ever-popular School Board meeting......of course, in our current 'woke world' - THAT parent becomes a Domestic Terrorist, who only wants to burn books.
What a terrible 'left turn' the US has taken. How do we 'right's the ship ?
Yes, but parents can always team up to create their own group homeschooling possibilities. See also my former response in this thread.
I believe we are slowly moving towards communities creating their own schools, medical centers and food growing collective. Keep sharing your message, it's moving in the right direction.
Now that would be nice. As I understand it, the Amish have been doing just that for centuries. I think they are on to something.
There are also a lot of self sustainable living communities that do this as well. They are all over the world. The best thing would be for people to seek them out and join them to help the collective grow and spread.
But I have a feeling that the government is going to do something drastic and we will all be forced to do this. They didn't get their recipe right for covid and what ever they release next is going to impact everything as their AI isn't ready to handle the change. I hope I'm wrong but Im planning for the worst and hoping for the best.
They can do this because they have formed a "separatist society" - totally off the grid power wise and they have their own "governance group" within each community. I live in a HUGE Amish conclave area called Lancaster, PA!
This is how it used to be before the government controlled schools. It really is how it should be now. Of course that terrifies the teachers’ union. They would have a lot less power as a result. In the long run, that would be the best thing for schools I believe. Many of these teachers are part of the problem. Not all of them, of course. There are a number of outliers who actually care about the kids unless about teaching their own ideology to them. Someday, I hope we will get back to teaching kids how to think and not what to think. That is how our country will thrive again.
The teacher unions are funded by the Rockefellers and all the teachers that fought for school closures should be fired, as a first step.
Good teachers will continue to leave this profession until things change, so in order to keep our best teachers, they need help exposing the root of the problem. It will happen, but these evil people unfortunately are very manipulative and it takes a lot of strength to challenge them. This can only happen by many people helping. I see so many people in these threads praying for their own soul to be saved when they should be praying for guidance on what they should be doing to help create heaven on earth. God isnt going to give us a miracle without us doing the work of God, humans are the infinite light and only by asking for giving the strength to others, can we collectively be the catalyst for change.
I like the sound of that, very much.
🌟💯. Absolutely!!
As long as I faction off with the sensible ones, I'm okay with that! One thing is for sure there are benefits to living with red neck hunters, I won't go hungry.
Speaking of which, I am hot on the trail of the lockstep program to limit people to 4 chickens. That's one egg a day per person - they are trying to starve us out with regulations.
Yeah, but all homeowners are FORCED to pay taxes for public schools, as part of their property taxes. So this is all wrong!
In AZ parents can use the taxes that are spent on each child’s education to pay private school tuition and homeschool expenses. As a violin teacher, some homeschooling parents pay me with this fund. Also, citizens can designate their state tax to go to a particular student who is not in their household.
We can only use state funds if we enroll our children in charter schools here in California. I did that with my child when I homeschooled her but the state still had certain requirements that we had to meet.
Yes it is - that's why it's very important to support the VOUCHER SYSTEM so that you can choose to use those TAXES to send your children to a school that is following a moral code and NOT that of the Marxist/Progressive persuasion.
Most certainly is.
They keep this shit up and I will not pay for it. We will have a tea party 🎉
Agreed parents need to get ‘resourceful’ and team up with other parents...wake up..the Government and the free child care Education System is a total ‘dead end’ for your children.
Freedom of religion includes personal moral beliefs- according to case law- such as young men drafted during Vietnam era could have a personal moral belief against killing people without belonging to any formal religion.
Exactly, PermieGeek.
Don't vote them out, recall and/or fire those responsible. Letting them serve out their terms only encourages more of this. While you're at it, fire the librarians as well. They could restrict access to inappropriate materials.
I don’t see why it should only be religious views. I am not particularly religious, but I wouldn’t want them to be teaching this to my child without my knowledge. They are teaching us at a very young age. Way too soon.
I agree totally. I'm 65, and parents who aren't involved with their children's schools are letting their own children down. The bottom line is that every parent needs to be involved in their children's education. That's so important. My three Grandsons go to the same School. I call that School as a Grandparent, and their School is doing the right things. Pledge everyday. Recess everyday, Gym, Music Programs, and Plays. Ive been so impressed with their Country School. No 5G!! No Cell Towers are on their property. We have been asked to think of Humanitarian Projects if money were no Issue. I want to Start Gardens at every School. The kids need to learn to plant, grow, and Harvest everything that we can. They need to learn how to wait and be patient and growing is a good way to start. The Canning process too. I know how to do it all. I want to set a presadence for every school to do the same thing. With as many retired gardeners that would love to Volunteer. I can't wait to make it happen. What kind of project is God asking you to do? Just ask Him. He will let you know, if you ask. God Bless
Gardening isn't for sissies. 😉
Don't forget that kids will learn some chemistry (soil acid balance and mixing stuff), math (measuring rows and production quantities), climate (rain amounts needed, snow and sunlight needs). Science (pests and photosynthesis). Just to name a few. ❤️
So true! There is every subject in the classroom that can be learned in a Garden.
Our Creator God is always close by in ANY garden. "In the Garden" is my very favorite hymn of all. There'll be no thorns on heaven's roses--so I'm praying Jesus assigns me to be one of his "rose tenders".
Thank you for your spot on encouragement, Susan--I'm a Granna too and I have a 21 year old granddaughter who is training to become a kindergaraten teacher. I will pick her brain to see what she will do when "pushed" to allow this perverse material to enter the curriculum of the school where she'll be a teacher. I keep praying she'll migrate to a private school setting.
Well I will be praying with you for your beautiful Granddaughter!! Thank you for your compliment! God Bless you Granna and I hope you are staying encouraged during these awful hard times.
Participating on C & C Group always helps my "hope quotient", Susan (smile)!
Some people have no choice but to send their kids to public schools.
Like having a job...or two jobs...or both parents having to work.
Biden's economy.
When the stakes are this high, it's imperative to find a way out. People also argued they "had no choice" to take the poison shot. No. There is always the heroic decision to buck the tide and deal with the consequences, which in the end are much less impactful than the harms of complying.
So many people were brainwashed.
A woman I know who only buys organic fruits and vegetables was ecstatic to be one of the first to be injected with the covid death shot.
They refused to believe that they themselves were now rendered genetically modified.
I just read an article that even the unvaxxed blood is showing signs of the nano particles from shedding, getting Covid or from the Covid test swabs. Ugh!!
I know lots of those people, it's so sad. I also know people who go to Whole Foods in their fur coats in (not so cold weather) and have cards full of junk processed foods full of sugar and all other toxins but "it's organic" ... blah, blah, blah - talk about "virtue signalling".
Marketing. It works.
Same here. One so afraid of falling she would not come into my house up 3 steps without a hand rail. But she jogs outside 3 miles most days and yes, took the untested jabs.
Vaccine has been a Natural Selection ?
Many of the ‘new age, alternate lifestyle, health food’ crowd, dutifully lined up and got the shot.
Nothing like a GMO human eating ‘clean’ 😂
Unfortunately, the "consequences" could be CPS taking children away from a family who lost their stable housing due when they lost their job for non-compliance. The "heroic decision" looks different when children are involved.
I have a very big fear for what is going to happen to the children of parents who dissent. I fight corruption in CPS and literally just wrote Florida CPS and the governor and told them that I 100% support parents opening the door with shotguns and using their 2a rights to protect their children from being stolen. In Florida, and many areas globally, if an abusive father returns to the home, they take the children instead of arresting the man and giving the mother support. As simple as that - it's all they need. There was one case where a Republican school board member wanted to treat her child with herbs not medicine and 4 police officers showed up at the hospital to take the child. I'm sure in this case it was stopped due to community support, but this happens all the time. It is very hard to believe that CPS can take a child without even interviewing the parent and child together and looking at the whole picture but they can and they will. It's estimated 700k children are removed wrongly from American parents each year.
These criminals in the family courts already have a system in place to illegally kidnap children and profit off it.
I would have moved to a sensible state first before taking the gene modification injection. There’s always a way. And unfortunately for them now, too many people weren’t brave enough to stand up. I have more than a few friends and fam in that category. Most of them with new and unusual ailments. Only a couple will admit their regret.
Yup, I can't imagine what I would do right now if I had children - I feel for every parent out there...
Excellent point.
That maxim works both ways.
Here is Dr. Dave Martin explaining just how deep the "jab" corruption goes - so worth watching...https://www.bitchute.com/video/MMXfRHgFybqK/
Thanks Melanie, but there are far deeper criticisms than Dave Martin is now fearing to tread.
May I recommend Sage Hana's Newsletter.
Joanie, If the network that carried the GOP debate can pull the plug on the one simple question that dealt with the jabs, then where are we in December 2023 that the whole "unsafe and ineffective" narrative will achieve common knowledge? The work of Katherine Watt, Sasha Lapatova, Baliwick etc that Sage has focused. All the questions that Sage brings attention are not occurring except in small circles not controlled by the media. Even the UK Covid Inquiry is not touching the real issues; just vaguely referring to suffering, but not more.
People will often write that people are waking up--Not.....in.....Oregon.
Not my congressman. He won't touch the jab issue other than to say no mandates.
Thanks for the recommendation - I'm not aware of this Newsletter - is it on Substack?
Well I looked up Sage Hana and I couldn’t make heads or tails of that conglomeration of “news,”. So, please upload something that makes sense from Sage Hana.
So true. I still find it unbelievable that so many just folded when they were told to get the jab or else. Some were even proactive, begging for it. Remember the "just say no".
Wow! Joanie is truthing now! Thank you!!!!
Have been doing so since my political 180 in 2017 🧑🏻🦳
COURAGE is what we are lacking - there will always be fear mongers amongst us.
Totally agree. I live in the country and the cost of living is incredibly cheaper!
And and you can see the stars at night.
The stakes are that high! 😱 We are a 24 year homeschool family… We have been a one income family for that long… It’s been tough, but you make your choices based on your priorities… if we can do it… Anyone can! I don’t say that to brag… I say this to encourage EVERYONE to start down this wonderful path! And no, my husband is not some fancy engineer with a six figure salary…
And I say this again! It’s very tough, but absolutely worth it! We live in a small house… We have old cars… My car has 296,000 miles on it and it’s held together by heavenly duct tape! 💖😁🥰 we are recycling our books down through the children… Personally, math doesn’t change and history shouldn’t either!
1. Pray! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 then get onto HSLDA and find out your State’s home school rules and laws.
2. Contact people that can help you get started… People at church, friends, family members, etc.
3. Remember to not put your kindergarteners through college… 😱 allow a period of transition for your home and school.
4. Talk to your kids! Give reasons why this needs to happen…
5. Make sure you take all of this with a sense of humor! We have a very good friend right now who pulled his daughters out of public school in the 10th grade. He is now trying to repair their bad study habits… It’s very frustrating but we are encouraging him to have a sense of humor through all of this!
6. I’m sure there are other people who can add to this list… I’m encouraging them to chime in…
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 you can do this! I’m speaking to EVERYONE out there! 😊
God Bless (same for us in Canada).
That's why school choice laws, allocating the taxpayers' money for education to families instead of to government school systems, is so important.
That’s why they hated Trump’s choice for Education Secretary (I think that was her title). She was for school vouchers so people could homeschool, or choose private schools if I’m recalling correctly.
Karen, exactly.
Fla Mom, I used to agree with what you are saying until I learned more about that argument. As a homeschooling family, I now believe it’s critical to not depend on ANY money from the government and look for ways to help those in need without relying on the government to be the solution. This is short video does a great job presenting an alternative argument to homeschoolers and other alternative schools accepting taxpayer $ - https://youtu.be/13YdgSfV_gE?si=qddlvfl7z0TE_ldB
I write this personally knowing a couple of single mamas who have homeschooled for years while working full-time and manage to make it work. We need the help of family, neighbors, friends and churches who don’t want to be part of the corrupt gov’t school system to work together to be the solution - NOT government/tax-payer money! It takes a village - and we all need to be looking for ways to help one another with alternative solutions.
and support that don’t want their kids in government schools and can’t afford or don’t wish to send their kids to private schools.
The argument he summarizes, that his friend gave, has the problem that we already all pay into universal government education through our taxes. His other two examples are new areas where leftists are trying to get taxpayer money involved, but have not yet succeeded. The two situations are not comparable. Since we already pay into the government school system, the question is whether the money will support students or systems. I find it hard to believe, even these days, that anyone would be forced to take money that must be applied for by intentional action on the part of the family. The system would rather that the money stay in system, not be given to families.
His next example is of a woman who already homeschools and who was able to stay at home full time instead of work part time. That is not the group the money will help the most. The people that the school choice money is most helpful for are inner-city families whose children are trapped in government schools that fail to the extent that their children 'graduate' without knowing reading, writing, and arithmetic. When there are programs made available to those populations, they typically have waiting lists, but there have never been enough programs to undercut the existence of the (criminal, really) government schools that do not educate. These are the people who are more likely to already take government money in other areas of their lives anyway, so adding these funds will not turn them into apostate Christians on this one point.
Finally, I think it's amusing that it's Robert Bortens making this case. We tried CC for one semester and were sorely disappointed on several counts. It's very expensive; the curriculum isn't that good; the tutors are not necessarily effective (ours *really* wasn't); and the attempt to cover all areas ended up meaning that students were on very different levels of Latin and math, so those sessions were mostly a waste of time. Finally, I later found out that there are legitimate concerns about the business model and contracting practices while using tax-exempt churches for a profit-making enterprise.
For *many* families, particularly inner-city families, school choice dollars are the fastest, most efficient way to rescue their children from dead-end school systems while providing competition for government schools. School choice programs are not perfect and are not the final end, but they are a good beginning for those who choose to use them, for now, at least. We should not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. As the programs begin to decay and become corrupted, as is very likely, then we can cross that bridge. Meanwhile, get people used to the idea that families are in charge of decisions about education and that there are many valid alternatives to government schools.
I was a part of 3 different CC communities for 5 years, and we are currently taking a break from community this year for personal reasons. I can see the pros and cons to Classical Conversations and there is no perfect curriculum or homeschool community. It’s not everyone’s cup of tea, and I get it, but I personally see the value of it - especially in a great community (not all are) but we’ve been blessed to be a part of a wonderful one the past several years. Good biblical leadership makes a huge difference. If you haven’t fully experienced all they have to offer or understand the logic behind what the program is and how the curriculum builds on itself, it’s easy to see how some think poorly of it and miss what I think is the heart behind it. All that being said, we follow where God leads us and aren’t tied to CC or one way of homeschooling. We are responsible for our kids’ education, the question is how much we’ll outsource and what things align what the Lord is calling us to do for our children. The curriculum should serve us, not the other way around. So for me, I’ve seen it as one of many tools to reach my kids and been in community with other faithful families who support one another in educating our kids. CC is a for-profit business (I’ve never heard them claim they weren’t) and anyone is free to choose whether or not they see the value in paying for this resource. I hope you found a better fit for your family, Fla Mom. And I don’t know the answer to the inter-city issues (you bring up good points) but do believe those of us who follow Jesus, the church, can and should be part of the solution.
I personally saw what happened in 2018 when I lived in TX - how a group that was against CC anonymously sent letters to churches (this included the one we met out of) about the possible issue with their tax-exempt status. I personally don’t think that came from a group with godly motives. I have friends who have left CC and I know disagreed with their business practices. We all have different opinions and that’s ok. I’ve extensively researched the issues that have been voiced. I’m a CPA and can see where some have concerns but ultimately don’t agree that CC is doing anything unethical and it’s just one of many homeschooling support options.
All that being said, Robert Bortins arguments aren’t the only ones that have led me to believe what do about taking taxpayer money. That was just a brief clip that I thought made some good points. There’s so much more to consider. A friend told me that “In CA homeschooling, 97% of CC families were publicly funded by the gov’t. The state statue states that they are not to teach religious content. It IS a battle.” A statistic she learned in 2018 was that 3% of the US K-12 population were registered as homeschooled and only 10% of that 3% were completely independent from public curriculum (funded or unfunded). There are underlying forces at work - the enemy doesn’t want parents to rely on the Lord for the their children’s education. If you have a few minutes - this is worth watching and considering what forces are at work in this broken world - https://youtu.be/8w4TQd_c85I
I think school choice is wonderful AND I think it is a Trojan Horse. The money will most likely come with strings that are unacceptable at some point. IMO take the money until there are strings, but don't ever become dependent upon it.
I agree. If at all possible, and it's often a lot more possible than people imagine it to be, have only one income and homeschool. It typically requires frugality and giving up luxuries, but I know many people who do just that. The 'wealth' and richness comes in the human connections within the family and with others in the community. I see school choice money as a bridge away from government schools. Any pile of money will be a target for the usual suspects, so the school choice programs will go off the rails eventually.
Homeschoolers in NC already have to report vaccine status to the state in order to be in compliance. We do have the religious exemptions, but I always wonder how it would play out if no religious exemptions were available. Accepting gov money would certainly tie in.
Ugh… 😱🤦🏽♀️
Wow. That’s crazy- here in Wild West we don’t have to do anything
Whose money funds public schools? Imagine that THAT money followed the student and that parents had real choice. The problem is NOT that parents can "only" afford public school. The problem is that the county and state take taxpayer money and spend it solely to meet political ends. Children are not educated to meet the children's needs; children are "educated" to meet politicians' "needs."
Pittsburgh public schools spends my property taxes for some bogus nonsense about "white supremacy" in math class.
https://nypost.com/2023/10/31/news/pittsburgh-public-schools-approve-measure-to-instruct-teachers-on-white-supremacy-in-math-classes/
Nonplussed.
Sad this ever had to be made, but well done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh3Yz3PiXZw
There has to be a way to untwist this pretzel logic with *math* for Pete's sake.
Still nonplussed.
I just want to ask the idiots in the Pittsburgh public schools, what part of math is racist?
Is it the fractions?
Maybe algebra?
Thanks for the link to the video.
Then enlist grandparents to help, form a group where parents work together to provide a solid core education. If you ever sat in a public school classroom for a day you would be shocked at the amount of time wasted. The public school system is broken, just like healthcare is, and needs to be dismantled from top to bottom.
We have hired teachers, formed PMA and are doing it right
PMA?
I had the same question.
Quick search yielded some help but hardly all the answers: https://thepmamanifesto.com/2023/02/28/the-pma-manifesto-how-to-start-and-run-a-private-membership-association/
Private membership association
Not everyone live in close proximity to grandparents.
I was in the military and lived away from my own parents and other family members for 23 years.
Sadly, we don’t live in close proximity to our grandchildren either but when we’re there we do whatever we can to help.
The job market, or lack of, will often determine where a family has to live.
It would be nice to stay close to be able to help, but the reality is different.
Then make friends with others who HS and do some trades in time , etc. People need to get creative first the sake of the kids. Get rid of one car, buy a smaller home, trim the budget. I’ve seen this work and was there as a friend to help other friends do these things.
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I was a single mom who homeschooled my daughter. I felt I was called by God to do it and although it wasn't without it's struggles, it can be done.
Many claim they “can not live on one income”. Unless you are a single parent, there are ways to make it happen. Even if it means moving to a more affordable home or state. I’m sure there are some with very legit reasons. But there are far more, IMO, who with a little creativity and sacrifice could homeschool.
I stayed home with my boys. We all sacrificed!! But, when you raise your children without working, you have to be willing to do whatever it takes to conserve. My boys still cut open toothpaste tubes to get every bit of the paste out. Water off while brushing, turning water off when washing in the shower, (if warm enough), Waste not, want not.
We lived on one income a long time--until way after our daughter was out of college, which we paid for. Then I went to school and got a decent job with a pension. We still had nice things but nowhere near what younger people THINK they need.
This is reminding me of how my daughter (RN working in a hospital) had to use a religious exemption to avoid getting the goddamned Covid19 injections. We shouldn’t have to use religion as a reason for maintaining our civil rights. We should simply have to say ‘no’. I think this is a dangerous road (using religion as the only justification for maintaining our individual rights).
Glad to hear you say this, as I've maintained exactly that throughout. And even the Nuremberg Code that everyone thinks is the final word, isn't because it only stipulates "experimental" medical procedures. Whether a thing is deemed experimental or approved, ALWAYS there must be individual informed consent and choice.
Yup. We need to bring back ‘philosophical vaccine exemptions’… which many states used to have also… a few still do.
But really… the philosophical exemptions were the first to go… then they moved on to removing the religious vaccine exemptions… and now it’s perfectly clear why.
They always meant to remove a person’s ability to choose… they want no personal choice on the vaccine issue.
And given the Pope’s vaccine position 🤨 … the way the Catholic Church is positioning themselves on the vaccine issue … they’re undermining the religious exemption- certainly for Catholics … which was very upsetting for me.
I agree on the homeschooling...the ‘public school education system’ is seriously broken...just like every other ‘system’...Industrial Medical Healthcare Delivery System, The Government, media, et. al.
In a sanely moral society material such as this wouldn’t even be considered for youngsters at all! But considering the degeneracy of society today any such material should be an “Opt In” proposition rather than any “Opt Out.”
The elitist education establishment (on any level) is so out of control any laws passed (which is what it may take) should require “opt in” for any materials - sexual, SEL, CRT, Common Core (which basically opened doors to all this madness), revisionist history, etc.
“Education” today has become indoctrination into collectivist ideology.
And all I see being done by our “leaders” is more money thrown in & more programs created. Oh the growing bureaucracy!
I understand where you're coming from on the "opt in" point but seriously, would you even want your kids or grandkids sharing recess with classmates who were so opted? Filth has no place in any school, period.
Genius! "any such material should be an "opt In" proposition rather than any "opt out."
Spot on Joanie....hope you are running for a seat on your local school board...or city council at least! You would have all the votes in my family....which is becoming quite large and conservative.
😄 In fact, I did just get myself, and two others of like mind elected to our local community planning committee, which doesn't have actual legal teeth but it's a start, as we can monitor and maybe have some influence on city council members. Our school board elections aren't for another two years unfortunately, and I'm known too widely as a black sheep, to make any inroads there. But am encouraging others in that direction.
I’m totally with you Joanie. What EVER will it take for Christian parents to remove their children from these filth-laden indoctrination centers? Where is the red line? I’m afraid the answer is that there is none. To home educate is a huge sacrifice for normal working people. It means a lower standard of living. Maybe a modest home with no hardwood floors, granite countertops, etc., all the really important things in life. Our values have been subtly shaped by our prosperity. We pay lip-service to Christian values but we don’t walk the talk. The Muslims seem to care more about the grooming of their children than we. This is to our shame. But big respect to them for taking the lead.
Who started thinking that "educating" youngsters about deviant sex was appropriate? I am still trying to wrap my head around it. It won't get them a good job. Especially if they can't read or write.
Still trying to wrap my head around society thinking schools should talk about sex at all.
Canadians of every nationality, with a very large percentage of Muslims, marched together this summer in the Million Person March to protest against Drag Library shows, sexualized school programs, CRT, and the filth found in our Libraries. Our schools have become cesspools of sex promotion. The NORMAL school Administrators and faculty should be cleaning this absolute mess up. Children do NOT need to be taught this 100% inappropriate crap. It caught the news and counter protesters with the usual rainbow gear, Antifa with their umbrellas and the Trans screamers but the Parents far outnumbered them so Trudeau could at least not close down bank accounts but accused the parents of being transphobes and all his usual name calling, I think Colonizers was in there.
Kind of like a dystopian circus.
Good news! Religious exemptions don’t apply only for those who are religious. They apply for atheists as well and conscious objectors. I learned this when doing my research for refusing the vaccines.
I agree, Joanie. This is just one issue among many. Public school is socialist school and you are sending your kids off to indoctrination camp. *Free* government school cannot be assumed to be of high standards or morality. Parents are sending their impressionable kids off for many hours and have absolutely no idea what is being taught or what the world view of the teachers are. Then one day they see a book they don’t like and act as though they are completely shocked in the decisions of the administrators. Never mind all the other vast issues and social ideas forced upon your kids every day.
Exactly!
In Europe they are putting in laws to prevent any opting out.
Well, that is terrible.
It is. But it's also a good thing because say for example all the re were made for the vaccines - all the people who wanted to opt out would have stopped fighting for others. When they don't give people the option, it will be their downfall as the people that have no clue and trusting in blind faith will be informed as to why people are wanting to opt out. Everything works against desperate people who seek total control.
I've watched training videos of these teachers who say they will find a way around it no matter what. One school is even getting someone to come in for 3 days to avoid permission slips and all sorts. What I have also seen is kids videoing their teachers bullying them to force them to watch it. Kids are protesting against this too and they might be creating a bigger problem then they know as they can deceive parents but kids are smart and as they grow older may form an internal resistance of their own.
Granted, it was eons ago but we had a science teacher offer a basic human sexuality course to us in 8th grade, girls separate from boys, and it was only after parents signed a permission form allowing the "talk". It covered human anatomy and how it all worked. I would bet very few of those permission notes would get signed if this was still required. Of course back then the word gay was not even around yet. Too bad we do not have a time machine. I'd go back to those days in a heartbeat.
JW,
I remember all that so well. Yep that’s how they taught it (and I grew up in San Francisco in the 60’s)
Can’t remember much about the class but it was the gym teacher teaching the class. Teachers overlapped in teaching classes in a couple subjects back in the day.
We also had wood and metal shop along with drivers Ed.
Boy drivers Ed would be great to bring back.
Long ago when my son was 10 he delved into building a Time Machine. Wish I could post a picture. He worked on this little metal contraption for years on and off. Using old household parts, chicken wire and an “on and off” light switch
We would talk about what time periods we would like to go visit.
I always stuck with the 70’s.
He wanted to see the 1400’s.... yikes
We had an aviator friend stop by one time and he saw that “machine” and said “oh yeah don’t try and take that through an airport TSA when you go fly to see grandma”
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He did take it into class to show the kids once.
Boy did it spark lots of conversations. Little kids with all kinds of times they wanted to visit.
Ok well my son really tried.... he poured his little heart into the whole idea and the making of it..... that’s no lie.
He believed with all his being it was going to work and people would be overjoyed.
Ok
Memory lane and Time Machine ramble all done 😎
5th grade teacher here. We give parents the option to 1) watch the film before the lesson, 2) sit in on the lesson, 3) opt their child out of the lesson. Simple. Respectful. No judgement. The parents knows best. (But this is NE, and we are still red)