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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

For me personally that ship has sailed. If gay people wish to enjoy the fruits and detriments of wedded bliss, more power to them. I'm more disturbed by the overtly hateful rhetoric (as evidenced by Dana Nessel), the cavalcade of dysfunctional politicians (also evidenced by Dana Nessel) and washed-up celebrities being rolled out to support the DNC's cause, and the harsh reality that there is still a significant number of people out there who share these beliefs.

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daverkb's avatar

The truth is that the God of the Bible is anti-queer, anti-alphabet sodomite. And nobody wants to deal with that because you know ... for reason of a fake 'tolerance' being glorified as virtue over that which is tributary of God. Not even the would-be allegedly Christian pastorate in the main wants to say openly, loud and clear that sodomy is anathema.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Christians need to get it through their heads that the Lord who now sits on the His throne in heaven ruling over all is an Intolerant God who will hold all societies accountable to His Law. But Satan does his best as a squatter to convince us otherwise. Read Psalm 2.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

Eric Metaxas talks about this in his recent book, Religionless Christianity. Metaxas' thesis derives from his study of the writings of Dietrich Bonhoeffer, who appealed to Christians not to “practice” their faith but to live it.

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daverkb's avatar

Maybe only the Elect?

My best guess from long observation is that God is not really, really real in any vivid sense in the minds of most Christians. Maybe part real. Maybe part abstraction. Maybe somewhat of an deus ex machina spewing out goodies, benefits, uplifting 'feel goods' ... like a bubble gum machine gone mad awry.

For example! How many folks, and that's if they had the wit to figure it out in the first place, would forgo a profit of 7x or 8x so far over the past five to years in BitCoin for reason of it being a violation of the 9th Commandment ... not to mention other injunctions against the same elsewhere? And with huge multiples of profit down the road yet to appear? Now that is a real tough decision to have to make.

For most Christians sitting in Fake Churches, their god is their comfort physical, their comfort emotional, and add in the twin gods of wealth and of the blind eye, both cauterizing of an hope to wise judgment? And why is this? Because it is very, very uncomfortable to turn pages in Foxe's Book of Martyrs and then put on a happy face. I ought to know because, and as afore mentioned elsewhere, I like gelato mint chocolate chip. And the omnipresent danger in gelato mint chip and other such seductive persuasions as may be thrown across one's pathway is that they can easily trend towards the unthinking habitual and the overriding. It is far easier to pretend the world is what it isn't.

Humanity walks a tightrope every day and knows it not.

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Politico Phil's avatar

You do sum up American Christianity.

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daverkb's avatar

Has not life in America been an extraordinary surreal adventure from childhood in the 1950s unto this day in the 21st Century. I could have never guessed at it afore hand.

I also think on our fathers, all of them ... both the fairly well educated and the not so well educated. None had the clue as to the world they lived in excepting outward appearances. Had they only known, they (many of them) would be aghast.

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John Bugni's avatar

Phil, Psalm 2. Good to review it. Thanks for the encouragement.

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Politico Phil's avatar

👍

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WP William's avatar

Hating the supposedly hateful is motivating to the Progressive policy makers and the voters they preach this crap to as they escalate societal changes and redefinitions to criminalize and shame those who oppose them and their vision for humanity

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daverkb's avatar

And it is a 'hate' which turns what God hates on its head. And this counterfeit 'hate' they legislate muzzle-like into color of law.

But this is okay! You know! Because of Democracy! And with Democracy you can Love Your Neighbor!

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Politico Phil's avatar

Inconvenient Truths.

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