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Jeff, love the writing but you don't need to walk on eggshells each time you mention Putin. The overwhelming number of readers and commenters here know there are two sides to every story. Don't let the blatant Ukraine propaganda presented as fact by a couple of comment section shills deter you from boldly saying what you want to say. We see right through them and are looking for truth, not carefully constructed narratives. God bless.

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Agree 100%. It's on par, IMO, by opening a statement to (rightly) criticize "vaccines" by saying, "I'm not anti-vax...but..."

Nope. No apologies! No equivocation!

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Never forgive and never forget.

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I agree completely but understand. Sometimes I get tired of being shot at especially friendly fire. Oxymoron?

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Yup, but often that "friendly fire" is actually hostility disguised to appear friendly. We live in an age of lies, it's a variation of the classic "concern troll" move. "I've been a lifelong conservative but lately the (insert recently effective tactic here) has me very concerned..."

It's designed to make people think their own allies have turned on them when in fact nothing of the sort has happened.

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Subject Putin.

This 'walking on eggs syndrome' appears to be a tacit 'virtue signaling' ploy. Maybe not intended that way, but just having that patina of appearance about it. This said, the Walk-Away movement, the larger part of the world by population, is not under any such compunction of hesitant speech. Nope! They just Walk-Away ... in droves. And the reason? Everything in the Putin clip plus something bigger ... existential sovereign survival. And ditto for us in the US who really don't cotton to the Paedo Pete Agenda. This said, I thank Lawyer Childers for today's insertion of the Putin speech clip. And I'd call that 'fair and balance'. And a little real deal perspective on what we are up against.

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Call it what it is. Putin is right on this. Period.

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Hi Annie! You said it right! For one, everything in that Putin clip applies in spades to what our Dear Leader elite is trying (with great success until now) to push down our throats. And as a matter of fact, Putin has been saying this stuff for a very long time now. And apparently, the rest of the non-Woke world totally agrees. Given the rest of the non-NATO world disagrees with The Evil Russian Narrative, I can't see how 'they' think the can push this on and on into a crazy forever. At any rate, we will see how this works out.

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Meh...for me it is not worded as I "really don't cotton" to the pedo agenda. It is a hard HELL NO and a Foxtrot Yankee to those who are on the fence.

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You are, of course, quite right! And I'm glad to hear it so said!

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Putin is a pretty reasonable guy and you can hear what he says unfiltered as Putin Direct: https://t.me/PutinDirect

Putin: Much of the Ukrainian grain is actually American after Ukraine sold its farmlands to U.S. companies. https://t.me/PutinDirect/54

Putin: The West is blocking Russian efforts to donate fertilizer to the poorest nations. https://t.me/PutinDirect/55

Putin: European countries have not rid themselves of the colonialist paradigm and continue living at others’ expense. https://t.me/PutinDirect/53

Putin chuckles at the Ukrainian counteroffensive and warns of a more serious response should Kiev continue using terrorist tactics. https://t.me/PutinDirect/51

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"Putin is a pretty reasonable guy"

Says who?

His bombers tested American air defenses the other day and they are still finding more mass graves and torture chambers in Izium and Kharkiv oblast.

What do his friends, Iran and North Korea, say that's reasonable?

You're known by the company you keep.

And Putin can laugh all he wants, but the Russian state is cracking. The media and the military are furious over being forced out of a region that they said "Once a russian flag goes up over it it shall never come down".

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Cry more!

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Yes, they lied about the jab, about the ChiCom virus and a whole host of things.

What else can we do? I know, support a foreign dictator! America bad, Putin good!

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troll

Edit: forgot to mention the above comment is a classic example of the strawman response. De-facto evidence of bad faith.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

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Horsey is probably in the employ of one of our nefarious 3 letter agencies. Got to keep the propaganda flowing, of course.

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Really? Am I FIB or NSA? I always wanted to work with Admiral Mike Rogers. He took an unscheduled trip to Trump Tower after the 2016 election. I have been in Trump Tower for the 2016 Trump campaign.

Bring it!

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I see horsey reactivated his benjaminn account so he could fight with himself to prove neither of his accounts are trolls🤣🤣🤣

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Do you want to lead the team betting on that lie?

Go on, make the wager. $500 or maybe something more interesting like $1,000.

Because I would LOVE it!

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Putinoid

Edit to mention, I really can't stand anti-American BS from anyone, especially from a Putinoid.

We need to focus on helping good candidates for November not defending a failed dictator.

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Horsey, or Jackass? Yes, Putin is a bad guy; however, his speech about declining American values was accurate. Nice strawman argument 👍

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Former Gen. explains the sorry situation Putin created invading Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FARHRxGCS0

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He's stuck in a quagmire of his own making. An entire army of Ukrainians are well equipped and with high morale, fresh off a big win after driving Putin out of Kharkiv.

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I'd vote for Putin 10x before I'd vote for Horsey's transgender Dear Leader Zelenskyyyyy. (Not sure how many "y's" we need there. Seems to vary)

No mo' globohomo

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You'd vote for a guy who flies his bombers against American air space?

Sounds rather treasonous.

While Putin Hides in Sochi Zelensky went to the front lines in Izium to visit the Ukrainian troops.

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Don’t you have a drag show you’re late for, Benjaminnnn/Jackass?

You’re not fooling anyone by switching back and forth between handles. (“Look! Now I’m Horseshit, now I’m Bejaminnnn?”)

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Thanks for making my point, Fred.

You'd only need to vote for Putin, once, or not. It makes no difference. You get Putin for decades and the KGB mafia thuggery with it.

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I agree. putin seems solid when it comes to the infection of perverted sexual deviants the west seems to be imbracing by Not standing up to it.

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Putin "seems" is the perfect synopsis as the KGB thug morphs to whatever is useful at the moment. It's why Putin was so successful with so many Western leaders and obtaining great advantage with Germany signing on to Nord I & II.

While other leaders in Eastern Europe warned Putin was not reformed KGB, they were ignored. Now Putin's energy blackmail is on the table and President Trump's warning, mocked earlier by the German delegation at the UN is facing a very tight constricted energy winter.

Rape is also a perversion but Putin has little issue with it as he views this as a benefit to his Russian army. They don't get much from the State so Putin wrote an order to give them permission to loot what they can to the applause of these rural families where the soldiers originate.

https://www.ibtimes.com/putin-encourages-russian-soldiers-loot-ukraine-issues-decree-allowing-looting-3545948

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Great response and perspective on friendly fired. Vigilance is required, sadly. Thanks

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Thanks!

Here's a little to prepare the next mass formation on Uncle Joe. Putin explains why Stalin wasn't so bad and just misunderstood. The Soviet flag was flying on tanks invading Ukraine. Putins' new and improved Uncle Joe.

Enjoy!

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-putin-decries-excessive-demonization-stalin/28559464.html

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Putin Accuses Russia's Foes Of 'Excessive Demonization' Of Stalin

This is the real Putin:

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-putin-decries-excessive-demonization-stalin/28559464.html

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No Mo Globohomo, Perv

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Anyone else hear shades of Hannibal Lector in that Horsey’s lecturing on yesterday’s blog comments? Chilling how he used smarmy flattery to try and suck responders in and keep it going. Addressing them by name and as ‘friend’.

Best to ignore that approach, I think. It’s not a debate that your best reasoned arguments could win. It is an attack that cannot be ended with words, no matter how brilliantly presented. He must be starved of responses.

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Yup, when I called out his blatantly bad faith tactics above he immediately fell back to the old tried-and-true name calling.

Don't waste time arguing with these people but directly call out their dishonest tactics and move on. Seriously, learn these tactics so you can spot them instantly and immediately recognize bad actors. After a bit you'll see them coming a mile away.

Lots of good articles on logical fallacies out there for those interested. People who habitually use them are at best trying to score cheap points, but more likely are propagandists.

Edit: Adding that "horsey" showed up at pretty much the exact same time "benjaminn" disappeared using identical tactics. He'll probably incarnate himself as someone new in a few days.

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It also means that Coffee and Covid is getting the attention of the troll masters. So you are doing good work here, Jeff. 🙂👍

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Yea, what happened to Benjamin? ;)

AT THE END OF:

Tales From the Great Reset: Inside a Ukraine Propaganda Brainstorming Session

- Ukrainian propaganda needs a Great Reset. I secretly sat in on a Ukrainian propaganda brainstorming session with Goebbelsky's new team as they try to come up with new ideas for starting World War III!

https://covidsteria.substack.com/p/great-reset-tales-ukraine-propaganda

I HAVE A LIST OF SOURCES TO WHO IS PAYING THESE PEOPLE:

Ukraine's Propaganda War: International PR Firms, DC Lobbyists and CIA Cutouts (Mintpressnews.com)

Dan Cohen reveals the network of foreign strategists, Washington lobbyists and intelligence-linked media outlets behind Kiev's public relations blitz.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/ukraine-propaganda-war-international-pr-firms-dc-lobbyists-cia-cutouts/280012/

Ukraine War! What Is It Good For? Propaganda (Off-guardian.org)

The West’s propaganda, in a rapidly evolving conflict, has at times been absurd.

https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/07/ukraine-war-what-is-it-good-for-propaganda/

Don Surber: War hero or Hollywood? (Donsurber.blogspot.com)

The real stories about wars don't come out until years later.

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/04/war-hero-or-hollywood.html

Fakes emerge throughout Ukraine crisis just to be debunked later (From RT)

Video…

https://tv.gab.com/channel/rt/view/fakes-emerge-throughout-ukraine-crisis-just-624bed7952c3e1d66abf7184

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I'm still here.

Why did the Russian army flee so fast they forgot hundreds of tanks, hundreds of APCs, and billions of rounds in Kharkuv?

Quite a victory for an equipment strapped Ukrainian army.

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No one is paying me. I just liked Jeff Childer's page. He covers most topics especially the legal ones in the US very well.

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You whine a lot, like your hero, Putin. If you want to join Fred in losing money, I accept the bet at any amount you two wish to put up.

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Same argument, same language, same person

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Wrong again, Phil! Put up the bet and the money with Fred and anyone else here. I will match it.

Then our host will confirm who is right.

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Well then you're both using the same script from your handlers.

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Prove any of these stupid lies, Phil. Put up whatever you can and I will match it.

I am not Benjamin. Put up....

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Yes. I think we need to stop engaging with said account. It’s obvious what his agenda is. Troll, fake acct, whatever. It takes up a lot of time to try and discuss anything, think it it best to ignore and not engage.

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Must be starved of responses. Like Hannibal Lector, he’ll never run out of lies and self worship.

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No lying here and in the coming days, Russia will be seeing the blame game as they point at each other on who's stupid idea was it to invade Ukraine.

As for here, there's a different game flailing with a claim I'm another person commenting, Benjamin.

How about you join in and put up the dough with the others? I will match any amount you muster.

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Only speak for myself and the facts cited. Nothing more.

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HL? Now that's one I've never heard before. Thank your Willing Spirit, but embracing a dictator is not borne of facts; it's strictly an internal matter, one of "spirit" pardon the pun.

Yes, starvation is always on the list for Putin and his acolyte, Joseph Stalin. Starving many millions and locking them into their own borders is well-remembered in Ukraine as I saw.

Robert Conquest's "Harvest of Sorrow" is the academic reference on that manmade Soviet holocaust.

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I stand and applaud your comment, Jeff C - it is spot on!

Putin may be many things - but, he is NOT a fool.

It is not difficult to imagine, in today's world, knowing what we now know, seeing what we are now seeing - Putin may not be the ONLY evil villain out there.

As you say, Jeff Childers:

" If only OUR leaders had been able to see the looming danger. "

ABSOLUTELY !

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Putin is a fool.

He was told his armies would be greeted with open arms and welcomed. Surprise, they weren't but got molotov cocktails, grenades, and drone bombs.

Instead he doubles down and threatens the west. And when his war isn't going well, doubles down again.

it's glorious to watch.

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"Putin may be many things - but, he is NOT a fool." EXACTLY!!!

See Putin Direct: https://t.me/PutinDirect

Putin: Much of the Ukrainian grain is actually American after Ukraine sold its farmlands to U.S. companies. https://t.me/PutinDirect/54

Putin: The West is blocking Russian efforts to donate fertilizer to the poorest nations. https://t.me/PutinDirect/55

Putin: European countries have not rid themselves of the colonialist paradigm and continue living at others’ expense. https://t.me/PutinDirect/53

Putin chuckles at the Ukrainian counteroffensive and warns of a more serious response should Kiev continue using terrorist tactics. https://t.me/PutinDirect/51

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No, Putin isn't a fool. He's a demented dictator. Which as he's learning is worse.

We went from expressing feelings that demented Traitor Joe is worse than Putin to "Putin should not be inconvenienced further with resistance to his empire dreams or he's going to get really angry. This time he means it."

That's how fast the insanity of Putinoid dictator love happens.

What business is it of Putin what any other country does with its land? Putin is not "donating" crap. He should donate his army back to Russia so more thousands of them don't go pushing up sunflowers in Ukraine. The sunflower crop was bountiful this year. Thanks Pukey!

There's always something Putin is bitching about and to Putin, Putin is always the victim.

🤡🐸🤮

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Putin is not the only evil dictator in the world.

He is however, the only dictator to invade Ukraine.

With well over 50,000 Russian casualties, Putin’s invasion is foolhardy. Of course he will keep throwing Russians ahead to their deaths. It’s what dictators do.

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Who cares if he invaded that corrupt Biden crime family money laundering operation. I'm surprised it took them this long knowing the history of the Donbass region, their treatment by one of the most corrupt governments on the planet (the US is #1), and their overwhelming desire to return to Russia.

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Why do all of these Donbass villages have men and women greeting the Ukrainian army, speaking Russian, and joyous to be liberated?

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Perhaps he is doing just exactly what we, the US, had hoped he would do......

I do NOT intend to suggest his actions are in any way justified.

However, perhaps - " understood " is an appropriate word choice.

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It's a theory which may offer comfort to some but the facts in 2022 shows it comes up short.

Go back to Traitor Joe's remarks on Ukraine publicly prior to Russia's invasion of Ukraine. They offer an insight to Putin's decision after the Afghanistan debacle.

Publicly stating an "incursion" into Ukraine was ok, Biden signaled approval to Putin to take a portion of Ukraine. Putin must have had a big smile on his face and held a meeting telling his military, "Let's take it all."

The expectation among military analysts near and far around the world was Ukraine would fall within days and Kyiv would be overrun and its government decapitated in three.

President Trump had it right and made sure he was the only recent US President not to challenge. Putin did not seize any land from another country while President Trump was in the Oval.

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The "intent" is debatable, beyond a doubt.

But this * brief from the RAND Corporation certainly is worthy of consideration in ANY conversation regarding that intent - the US is certainly a player in this chess match.

What do the players hope to gain? Sure seems as if we, here in the US, are angling toward implosion. In ALL ways " ESG".

* https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB10014.html

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Nobody made him invade Ukraine except his ego.

Nobody.

He's obsessed with Ukraine.

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Agreed, and NATO. Putin thought he could seize all of Ukraine and then see NATO implode, his lifelong dream.

Instead, all of Ukraine rose up against him shocking the world as his mighty army was stalled and NATO is adding neutrals Finland and Sweden.

For Putin, it's the "catastrophe 2" with the first being the downfall of the Soviet empire as he described it.

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Russia anticipated to best Ukraine in 2-3 days. They even released an article justifying why they seized it. Problem was they realized they did it too soon and took the article down.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220226224717/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html

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If Russia has 50k casualties,what are the Youcranian casualties?

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Please, don’t feed the troll. He will stay engaged as long as you give him an opening. Let him mutter to himself.

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Wah! Facts hurt my feelings. Too bad.

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Somewhere in the 35-45k range. No real estimate so far, but they are well below Russian ones.

A good OSINT source is the Oryx blog.

Russian equipment losses:

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

Ukrainian equipment losses:

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-ukrainian.html

Ukrainian losses are a lot less. As they go more on the offensive it will kick up, but Russia is throwing men into the teeth of heavily defended ukrainian cities (Bakhmut, for example) time and time again for little gain but a lot lost.

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Estimates on Ukrainian casualties reported are 8,000 KIA.

That wouldn't count civilians.

Estimates on Putin's Orcs are 50,000 - 80,000.

Which explains why Putin's merc army, The Wagner Group named after Hitler's favorite composer is recruiting people from prisons. Six months service allegedly gets you out of prison.

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Facts are hard, I know.

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I have also noticed that Jeff is bending over backwards to be “fair and balanced” and not offend that demographic. It may also be to avoid de-platforming.

Anyway, Jeff doesn’t have to lead the parade on that. There are enough of us. :)

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You may notice the cheering all over the world in many countries. It isn't for Putin's army that got routed.

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Meh...

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When mentioning Putin or Trump, it's almost a matter of self-preservation to equivocate.

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Perhaps, but it lets the other side set the terms of the argument which is almost always self-defeating.

I get it and don't intend to criticize our host. Jeff wrote, "I’ve been mulling over whether I should report this next story, because it’s going to draw the usual complaints that I’m pushing Putin on people". My message to Jeff is that we know the vast majority of those complaints are in bad faith, and we don't take them seriously.

Those of us that have studied propaganda and logical fallacies see it riddled throughout these comments (looking at you horsey aka benjaminn). They are intended to drive a narrative and make people apprehensive to express certain opinions.

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Not bad faith necessarily, maybe just still using MSM for their news. The government narrative is Russia bad, Putin = devil. Ukraine good. Send more $ and weapons to weaken and de-stabilize Russia.

To them I say: I have been off TV since the 90s. Best thing I ever did. Same with leftist controlled newspapers. 99 of the top 100 US newspapers endorsed and predicted the victory of hillary over Trump. Try Zero Hedge for news, Lewrockwell.com for Liberty perspective analysis, Robert Malone and many others you may find to get out from under leftist spin. Almost all the search engines have biased algorithms to direct your searches away from conservative articles. This is a war of ideas, and for your mind. Be strong.

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Friendly disagree, I think many of those comments here are in bad faith. When commenters blatantly use logical fallacies (straw men, appeal to authority, stating opinion as fact, ad hominems, etc.) it is de-facto evidence of bad faith IMO. People who are just misinformed typically don't use these tactics, or if they do it's by accident and not one after another.

Everyone should study these tactics as it makes it easy to sift out the low information types from those intentionally trying to sow discord.

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Yes all that and also discouraging any questions. Aggressive responses and mockery instead of simply answering and discussing ideas. And again, as you mentioned, straw men and red herrings. Those tactics are the same as the pro jab people used. Make people feel stupid and defensive by using labels like anti vaxxer (racist also accomplishes the same purpose in other contexts) to quash any questioning of the narrative. Those are not used by people interested in good faith discussions of different viewpoints.

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Yes, some of those Commentators add up nothing more than Horse Poop!

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Well. Shit.

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So agree. Epochtimes is useful to us too.

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Agree strongly!

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I think you should just continue to self-identify with a failed dictator, Putin.

Be you.

We already know so this is not news to us.

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Ad hominem, appeal to emotion, appeal to ridicule, false dilemma, straw man, and probably a few others all in only 26 words. Pretty impressive.

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You are impressive, Jeff C! You are an orc killer!

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Wagner is paying 4-5k per month. They also recruit heavily from prisons.

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Putin's orcs absolutely need more killers! They are running low.

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It’s an exposure of you.

There is no appeal.

Putinoid is as Putinoid does.

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Which one of these drag queens is you, Horsey, and which is Benjaminn? (I already recognize Zelenskyyyy. But who’s the 4th?)

https://youtu.be/DcmyUXxFSIM

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Pony up, Fred! Time to ante up.

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It’s like La Cage Aux Folles meets Soringtime for the Azov Battalion.

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Plus if we have negative views of someone, they are probably from the false narratives presented by the msm media and wef. All previous beliefs must be re-examined with clear heads and proper due diligence. Putin was right on this and we have all been duped on various levels by this evil.

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I agree

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Putin didn't mandate that I take DEATHVAX. (I didn't take it, but it was coerced).

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Putin made his own covid vaccine and follows covid protocols religiously. He even keeps his closest aides and advisors about 50 feet away. He's gotten the covid shot too.

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Some of us realize that Ukraine is just a mini Russia run by thugs.

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Its MUCH worst e.g. its Russia in the 1990s when the oligarchs and foreign investors were in control looting the country... Like it or not, Putin put the oligarchs in their place... When Russia took over Crimea etc, they had to DOUBLE the pensions to align them with Russia's - that's HOW POOR they are! There are millions of Ukrainian guest workers in Russia (as well as elsewhere like Turkey) - not the other way around...

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"Guest works".

That are run through filtration camps and not allowed to leave.

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This thread is getting hilarious, but away from Jeff’s readers usual civility. I vote for returning to it. Peace.

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Are you now saying it's too free and open?

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Except Ukraine is a lot better than Russia.

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What Ukraine propaganda?

That Russia is a free and open society and Putin is some genius mastermind?

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You might want to look in the mirror, Benjamin. Jesus suggested that we remove the plank from our own eye before we remove the splinter from the others eye. Do you really believe that with the gutting of the Bill of rights, and the censoring, minimizing, blocking, and de-platforming of any assertion contrary to the current narrative, That we are a free and open society?

Maybe this is where we need to focus rather than pointing the finger at other nations.

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The Devil also quoted Scripture and was pretty good at it, too.

We are indeed better than the Russians. A lot better.

Go insult Biden on Social Media. In fact, I'll do it on facebook and here now:

Biden is a senile, idiot old man.

Now do that in Russia.

Go say the military is doing a bad job in America. Now do it in Russia.

We are a much more free and open society than Russia.

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The real lesson of Martha’s Vineyard is that if you are a liberal blue city, above the law because you’ve declared yourself a “sanctuary city,” it is both moral and legal to remove illegal immigrants by force by use of the US military. See, although when a red State moves immigrants to your blue sanctuary city it is “human trafficking,” when a blue city does it by force with the military it is “humanitarian.” People who don’t “understand how this law works” might think we have a two-tiered justice system. But as Resident Xiden would say, “Come on, man.”

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My brain hurts. I keep trying to understand hypocrisy. I see the words and the actions; they are not cohesive. I am not looking for answers because I know all the pat answers we can write. I am just saying. Thank God, we have a platform where we can express our bewilderment.

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I think this quote explains it best: "It's not hypocrisy, it's hierarchy." That's why they aren't ashamed when it gets pointed out, because they're actually smug about the fact that they're above the rules and never held to the same standards as the lower class.

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Something that seems to make sense. They really don’t care if we agree, like or hate them and call them out. Because we do not matter. We are simply in their way and they hate us for it.

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They also hate that the signs of their privilege are being blurred, as regular people can travel and buy designer bags etc., and so they want to shove us all back down to lowly peasant status where they think we belong and ensure that we cannot access these status symbols any longer.

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Yup! They need to eliminate that awful middle class that thinks they can aspire to something better. Can’t have that.

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Let’s not forget that the poor also can aspire to something better. That is, after all, the American Dream.

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💯

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Exactly. They are Royalty and that's how they look down on us.

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Only in their own minds.

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Yes, I agree. Gato Malo wrote a great post on that a while back.

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El Super Cat-o

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