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Vonu's avatar

You aren't winning when you believe everything a corrupt media tells you without vetting it.

It doesn't help that you are ignorant of the abrogation of the Minsk agreements that Russia said it would enforce if the Ukraine failed to honor it after entering into it faithlessly as a ruse to buy them time to build up their military from the level that NATO has trained it to.

Wagner generals are mercenaries, not Russian troops.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I listen to all sides. Russian media claims they destroyed 6000 Ukrainian soldiers and a hundred tanks yesterday.

There was no violation of the Minsk agreement by Ukraine. None.

Russia simply wanted to conquer Ukraine and Putin to the write Ukrainian history and finish the genocide Russia started almost 100 years ago.

I notice you didn’t refute a single

Thing I said.

Wagner troops are mercenaries but fighting for the Russian

Side. Most wagnerians are former Russian army.

Prizghozin is known as “putins chef” and has been fighting for the kremlin since 2014. They are a

Defacto arm of the kremlin. It was founded by a former GRU agent, by the way.

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Vonu's avatar

Where did "Russian media claim they destroyed 6000 Ukrainian soldiers and a hundred tanks yesterday?"

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The Ukrainians didn't violate the Minsk agreement, they just walked away from it, like Trump did from the Iranian one.

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Where did you get the impression that Yevgeny Prigozhin had been in the GRU?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Prizghozin wasn’t, the founder of Wagner, dmitry utkin (the one with the ss lightning bolts and the Nazi obsession) was.

His call sign was Wagner.

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Vonu's avatar

Although I doubt if you can or will, kindly prove your specious premise.

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He stole his callsign from Hitler's favorite composer?

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Vonu's avatar

The Wagner Group doesn't seem to be on this list.

businessinsider.com/worlds-most-powerful-mercenary-armies-2012-06

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Okay stupid.

Notice that article date.

2012. Wagner was formed in 2014 from

Dmitry utkin’s failed “Slavonic corps”.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Vonu's avatar

Now that you have resorted to ad hominem as a last resort, I will henceforth ignore you.

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"He is ALLEGED to have founded the Wagner Group."

Are you familiar with the word alleged?

The other guy is known to have founded the Wagner Group, having the financial wherewithal to do it. It wouldn't hurt that he had prison time under his belt, and so, familiarity with the prisoners that largely constitute the Wagner Group. The Pentagon did the same things with Mexican prisoners during Vietnam, offering them citizenship if they survived.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

“Alleged”

He’s

Listed as one of the founders of

Wagner and it has his call sign.

He’s also even on record

Speaking for Wagner in an official capacity…

Sure.

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Vonu's avatar

How many places did you look him up?

His call sign is like my citizens band skip handle, and just as meaningless as a reference.

Using his call sign as a reference is like saying the president's plane's call sign is Air Force One.

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