That Texas property tax proposal really irks me. Crazy high property taxes in Texas has been a red hot topic for years. It doesn't just affect people raising kids, it's also forced retired folks out of their "paid for" homes, even with the tax rate freeze at 65. The majority of property taxes is public school funding. With this bill, th…
That Texas property tax proposal really irks me. Crazy high property taxes in Texas has been a red hot topic for years. It doesn't just affect people raising kids, it's also forced retired folks out of their "paid for" homes, even with the tax rate freeze at 65. The majority of property taxes is public school funding. With this bill, the very people utilizing the public school systems might get a hefty tax break? Who then, will be left holding the bag? I can assure you, they won't ask school districts to reign in their spending. I paid my property taxes during all the years I raised my kids, will there be a refund coming? Why do politicians make everything so f------ complicated?This bill smells of welfare and we all know how great our welfare system works.
I agree. Families with children need to pay MORE in property taxes because they are the users of public schools. There needs to be a very vigorous debate and discussion as to the most equitable local taxation computation - usually I don't like the word equitable, but in this case the correct definition of equitable meaning "just" and "fair" in the context of levying taxes, is applicable. Edit to my original comment: to clarify, the USERS of public schools should pay more in taxes and those who do not use the public schools, should get a tax break. And I agree with one commenter, the money should follow the child.
Beg to differ-I refused to send my kids to public schools. I did not want government interfering with my kids education. Sacrificed to send them to private schools by making hard decisions about how we spend money. AND PAID TAXES to support the failing school system in Baltimore. I would have loved a tax break of some sort. But if I had to do it all again, I wouldn’t change a thing.
School tax $'s should follow the kid, not the government funded school system. School choice should be the parents choice. Some good old fashion competition would shake things up.
Agreed. My thought was not well thought out or written. I meant to say that families that USE the public school system should pay more in property taxes than those of us who do not and for those of us who do not use the public school system, we should get a tax break. I have 3 daughters, sacrificed to send them to parochial school K-12. I, too, would not change a thing.
Good points. I live in a county in Illinois that has had the highest property taxes in the country. It’s mostly rural. Not even a close Chicago collar county with larger cities. It’s been Republican run for 150 years. Just sayin’.
This isn't a democrat issue. It's a politician issue, from both sides of the isle and they're equally despicable because they love to use the issues for campaign talking points but then never do anything of significance about it. It's definitely a Gov Abbott move.
I forgot to mention in my first comment that my daughter and SIL adopted our 2 beautiful granddaughters 7 years ago through through the state. In TX, adoption through the state allows for pretty much a free 4 yr college degree at a TX state university. If they really want to encourage adoption, they would stop making the process so hard to do so.
Higher than Cook county? I think I’d debate you on that. I’m in a Southern burb of Chicago, I honestly don’t know how some of my friends are paying their taxes.
Agree. My first reaction is it's just more social engineering. Politicians can't seem to see that there are always unintended consequences. Less is more and we need to back off. Texas has no state income tax . Services have to be paid for one way or another. Total tax burden needs to be considered. I actually prefer the more local method. Closer to home and less level of government gives citizens the opportunity to more fully participate in decisions.
Yes, we don't have a state income tax but our property taxes here, in many areas, are higher than a typical state income tax would be. I don't resent paying my fair share. What I resent are politicians who think the answer to everything is to throw more money at poorly run systems. Education is one of them.
I don’t like property tax because I will never actually own my home/land. Even once the mortgage is paid we could lose everything should the tax burden become beyond our ability to pay. Every year they say they aren’t changing the tax rate, or they are even lowering it but then they turn around and raise the assessed value of our house to the point that if we were home buying today, it would not even be on the list of possible homes. I can guarantee I didn’t get a pay raise equivalent to the increase in the supposed value of my home.
And speaking from my personal experience, school districts figure that the way to solve any problem is to throw money at it. You should have seen the $$$ thrown at more and more and more and more video/audio equipment in autumn '20
I know 2 categories of people who seem to have the most children. Hispanic families, many of whom are renters. How would this help them? They pay the property taxes that are passed on to them by the landlord, will he get a break and pass the savings on to the family? I doubt it. The other group goes to my traditional Catholic Church (and Churches like mine) who have very large families (we are on the FBI watch list, lol). Most of these families home school, so maybe a tax break for them would be a nice idea.
I, too, did not use the public school system. I would not subject my children to that. That's why I think a "use" tax is more appropriate, certainly open to a debate. I understand the conservatives' desire to "reward" the intact family unit, but reducing property taxes may not be the fair way to do it.
I think there are a couple of property tax bills working their way through the process. This one is somewhat interesting because it encourages stable families with children. I definitely agree that the majority is public school funding and that's made worse with the Robin Hood laws and then the crazy number of tax breaks given to incentivize some business to move in. The business doesn't pay taxes, but the value counts for Robin Hood so the residents all pay more.
I haven't read the bill, but seems like this would only apply the the actual property tax, not the school part of it. I need to go read that. And of course, this is highly unlikely to go anywhere - especially with the messed up priorities of Phelan.
Yea, I need to read the entire bill too. I've seen other tax reform bills but this one is the first I've heard of it and it sort of triggered me. 😁 Property taxes and covid handling are the 2 reasons I did not vote for Abbott in the primaries.
We already have a number of subsidies encouraging folks to reproduce. Child tax credits, government-paid "education," income tax exemptions, gov't-funded medical services, etc etc. This would be one more, but I understand why it could be unpopular. Probably better to limit property tax to land value only, exempting improvements, which encourages housing construction and has some other benefits.
That Texas property tax proposal really irks me. Crazy high property taxes in Texas has been a red hot topic for years. It doesn't just affect people raising kids, it's also forced retired folks out of their "paid for" homes, even with the tax rate freeze at 65. The majority of property taxes is public school funding. With this bill, the very people utilizing the public school systems might get a hefty tax break? Who then, will be left holding the bag? I can assure you, they won't ask school districts to reign in their spending. I paid my property taxes during all the years I raised my kids, will there be a refund coming? Why do politicians make everything so f------ complicated?This bill smells of welfare and we all know how great our welfare system works.
I agree. Families with children need to pay MORE in property taxes because they are the users of public schools. There needs to be a very vigorous debate and discussion as to the most equitable local taxation computation - usually I don't like the word equitable, but in this case the correct definition of equitable meaning "just" and "fair" in the context of levying taxes, is applicable. Edit to my original comment: to clarify, the USERS of public schools should pay more in taxes and those who do not use the public schools, should get a tax break. And I agree with one commenter, the money should follow the child.
Beg to differ-I refused to send my kids to public schools. I did not want government interfering with my kids education. Sacrificed to send them to private schools by making hard decisions about how we spend money. AND PAID TAXES to support the failing school system in Baltimore. I would have loved a tax break of some sort. But if I had to do it all again, I wouldn’t change a thing.
Homeschoolers pay taxes and get nothing but a better education anyway. ♥️ We'd do it again!
School tax $'s should follow the kid, not the government funded school system. School choice should be the parents choice. Some good old fashion competition would shake things up.
Follow the kid WITHOUT strings attached.
Agreed.
Agreed. My thought was not well thought out or written. I meant to say that families that USE the public school system should pay more in property taxes than those of us who do not and for those of us who do not use the public school system, we should get a tax break. I have 3 daughters, sacrificed to send them to parochial school K-12. I, too, would not change a thing.
Get rid of the public, government-run indoctrination centers. Problem solved. (Maybe not, but I wish.)
All those illegals probably don't own homes...so, their kids go to school for "free."
They may well live in government paid-for apartments.
No kidding.
Wonder how the property taxes will affect owners of apartments.
Are they gonna count all the kids inside?
😡
I think there is some merit to those benefiting to pay a little more.
Good points. I live in a county in Illinois that has had the highest property taxes in the country. It’s mostly rural. Not even a close Chicago collar county with larger cities. It’s been Republican run for 150 years. Just sayin’.
This isn't a democrat issue. It's a politician issue, from both sides of the isle and they're equally despicable because they love to use the issues for campaign talking points but then never do anything of significance about it. It's definitely a Gov Abbott move.
You must be paying for a large University too. 🙋♀️
I forgot to mention in my first comment that my daughter and SIL adopted our 2 beautiful granddaughters 7 years ago through through the state. In TX, adoption through the state allows for pretty much a free 4 yr college degree at a TX state university. If they really want to encourage adoption, they would stop making the process so hard to do so.
Haha. We’re paying for a school with the lowest test scores in the county.
Hey, I now know that Democrats are no better.
Higher than Cook county? I think I’d debate you on that. I’m in a Southern burb of Chicago, I honestly don’t know how some of my friends are paying their taxes.
Agree. My first reaction is it's just more social engineering. Politicians can't seem to see that there are always unintended consequences. Less is more and we need to back off. Texas has no state income tax . Services have to be paid for one way or another. Total tax burden needs to be considered. I actually prefer the more local method. Closer to home and less level of government gives citizens the opportunity to more fully participate in decisions.
Yes, we don't have a state income tax but our property taxes here, in many areas, are higher than a typical state income tax would be. I don't resent paying my fair share. What I resent are politicians who think the answer to everything is to throw more money at poorly run systems. Education is one of them.
I don’t like property tax because I will never actually own my home/land. Even once the mortgage is paid we could lose everything should the tax burden become beyond our ability to pay. Every year they say they aren’t changing the tax rate, or they are even lowering it but then they turn around and raise the assessed value of our house to the point that if we were home buying today, it would not even be on the list of possible homes. I can guarantee I didn’t get a pay raise equivalent to the increase in the supposed value of my home.
And speaking from my personal experience, school districts figure that the way to solve any problem is to throw money at it. You should have seen the $$$ thrown at more and more and more and more video/audio equipment in autumn '20
I know 2 categories of people who seem to have the most children. Hispanic families, many of whom are renters. How would this help them? They pay the property taxes that are passed on to them by the landlord, will he get a break and pass the savings on to the family? I doubt it. The other group goes to my traditional Catholic Church (and Churches like mine) who have very large families (we are on the FBI watch list, lol). Most of these families home school, so maybe a tax break for them would be a nice idea.
I, too, did not use the public school system. I would not subject my children to that. That's why I think a "use" tax is more appropriate, certainly open to a debate. I understand the conservatives' desire to "reward" the intact family unit, but reducing property taxes may not be the fair way to do it.
I think there are a couple of property tax bills working their way through the process. This one is somewhat interesting because it encourages stable families with children. I definitely agree that the majority is public school funding and that's made worse with the Robin Hood laws and then the crazy number of tax breaks given to incentivize some business to move in. The business doesn't pay taxes, but the value counts for Robin Hood so the residents all pay more.
I haven't read the bill, but seems like this would only apply the the actual property tax, not the school part of it. I need to go read that. And of course, this is highly unlikely to go anywhere - especially with the messed up priorities of Phelan.
Yea, I need to read the entire bill too. I've seen other tax reform bills but this one is the first I've heard of it and it sort of triggered me. 😁 Property taxes and covid handling are the 2 reasons I did not vote for Abbott in the primaries.
Yes. I voted for Huffines. This type of government manipulation doesn't help anyone.
We already have a number of subsidies encouraging folks to reproduce. Child tax credits, government-paid "education," income tax exemptions, gov't-funded medical services, etc etc. This would be one more, but I understand why it could be unpopular. Probably better to limit property tax to land value only, exempting improvements, which encourages housing construction and has some other benefits.