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Based Florida Man's avatar

Good point, although it's good to still fight for fixing the schools, since we're still paying for them even if we home school. But I figure we're not close to bottoming out yet on the degeneracy scale.

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Jen's avatar

I started being a substitute teacher at our local high school. It pays a pittance but I get to see the classrooms firsthand and I get to inject common sense when needed. I view it as community service.

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J Boss's avatar

I started thinking about this, how your injection might go in a class... next thing I know, I'm having a conversation with high school kids aloud trying to explain why they should question everything, cross-check fact claims, and listen to their elders. Maybe I need to do that as well...

Kudo's to you for your insight and effort.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I was talking with some young relatives that are very lefty. My only wisdom I could convey to them them is to question all narratives. It's hard to get them to be actual critical thinkers.

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daverkb's avatar

This is because Woke (hybrid Marxism) is a religion with what Eric Hoffer called True Believers. This makes them very dangerous, and also ... like talking to a brick wall or telephone pole.

Here's a video which answered for me this question: do or do not academics (all levels) believe this Woke Marxist doctrinal stuff. From this academic's statements, I believe that indeed that most Woke do truly believe this stuff ... more so than just the self-interest utility that it feathers their nests. Also, there are some very large statements in this presentation of which I totally agree with. Scroll to the video at the bottom, and also at Greg Hunter at Rumble. I was so intrigued that I had to listen to the entirely.

https://usawatchdog.com/cv19-a-propaganda-masterpiece-mark-crispin-miller/

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RunningLogic's avatar

Great link thanks!

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Thanks, I have been following MCM for a bit now. The collection of died suddenly data he amasses is heartbreaking.

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Datagal's avatar

Thank you for the video. I love MCM!

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daverkb's avatar

Me too! And his jumping off place is a bit different from where a lot of us started. Spotting the deliberate crafty propaganda campaign.

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Peace's avatar

How is MCM keeping his position at NYU with his stances on "current events"?

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daverkb's avatar

This is a good question. Tenured professors are darn near impossible to dislodge, fire, expel from a college or university, The University of California system tried to get rid of Kevin MacDonald for years and never did. And although I am not a part of this universe, I think part of the reason are legal obstacles. But I also think the Woke academics realize that if they can get rid of a 'politically incorrect' professor, then their tenured positions would be rendered less secure. And so, the fall back position is to marginalize. In MCM's circumstance, just stop allowing him to teach those nasty and harmful hate filled propaganda courses. Just erase what is not liked and it is like it never existed.

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OnTheJump's avatar

It IS difficult. They simply refuse to be open-minded enough to even consider that an opposing, or even 'different', point of view, is worthy of consideration.

Not all, perhaps, but too darned many.

Which, in my humble opinion, is a measure of intelligence (a willingness to consider beliefs, thoughts, opinions or data that conflicts with one's own opinion, that is.)

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macDuff's avatar

yes. I'm seeing that it's about pointless to try to help somebody pull his head out of his arse. It didn't get there by accident. It was placed there by bullies who now have the person with his head up his arse in the grips of Stockholm syndrome.

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Jen's avatar

It helps that I am in rural idaho.

Our high school has few students with purple hair or piercings. The few confused ones with name changes (that aren't indicated on the official roster) get a puzzled "omg you are weird" look from me when I take attendance. But I am just a sub 🙃

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Thank you for your service!

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Datagal's avatar

As a substitute teacher, are you seeing girls who purposely look ugly and sometimes masculine? All three of my sister’s granddaughters look awful! Odd hairstyles, greyish skin, ugly clothes. One used to be stunningly gorgeous- I assumed she’d become a model. But now? Ugly on purpose. Why?

I also see it in some women. I saw a woman the other day who had pink hair, was overweight and had on the frumpiest clothes. I thought “that woman is trying to look as ugly as possible”. She was about to enter a store but turned around and went back to her car. I later saw her in the store and she had donned a mask and face shield!!!

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Jen's avatar

Surprisingly no. Most are pretty well put together from an appearance perspective. Lots of high school drama, necessitating unscheduled trips to the counseling office 🧐

Some do wear clothes that my parents would never have let me leave the house in. But I think the high school has a strict dress code. I remember reading "no spiked dog collars" on the list. Wtf, someone actually wore one?

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AngelaK's avatar

That look was in around 2000, Goth style..black lipstick, clothes, studs, lip piercings.

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Jen's avatar

Until a day recently when offspring mentioned that he happened to see a student in the hall wearing one of those. I guess the teachers themselves aren't up to date on the dress code. 😅

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Cowgirl Dee's avatar

Yes they do (wear dog collars) at least try to. Then they take them off, wrap them around their fists and start a fight.

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Donna in MO's avatar

well I remember the grunge era. Backlash to the 80's I guess, I was in HS and college in the 80s with the full on big hair, tons of makeup and gaudy clothes (but not at my high school as we had to wear uniforms). I got married and had kids in the 90's and remember seeing teenagers, thinking WTH, do you not want to be presentable? But yeah, seeing a lot on the 'casualization' of America, and agree. But also know some really good kids who don't seem to spend much time on their appearance, so I dunno. Teens have always rebelled in one way or the other.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Like a missionary. I had to think of my 30 years that way.

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Copernicus's avatar

And, our kids are playing with and going to church with and growing up and working with the public school kids. And these kids will be the ones working in our communities, teaching in our schools, becoming our judges and juries when they are adults.

So yes, protect your own kids AND advocate for a return to common sense and common decency in our schools.

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P Flournoy's avatar

I don’t think a lot of people are aware that the supreme court shut down the precedent of the Lemmon case when they gave Coach Kennedy the right to pray on the football field and go back into his coaching position. This means that we are allowed to pray in the schools, wear T-shirts with Bible verses, and display the 10 Commandments. For further details on getting involved in regaining our freedom of religious expression, go to the First Liberty website.

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Kim's avatar

Yes! First Liberty is worth supporting! Love your idea Jeff to wear a T-shirt with Genesis 1:27 printed on it! We can either push back or lose all of our constitutional rights!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Great reminder!

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richard clark's avatar

Being allowed to pray at a football game does not mean it can come into the schools. It clearly does not belong there.

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P Flournoy's avatar

I agree that we should continue to try and improve the public schools and I don’t even have kids, but I do have god children that are very close to being my grandchildren, plus I love all these kiddos and hate to see their innocence taken away. I have campaigned for school board members that I think will protect the children, spoken at Board of Trustee meetings and been involved with helping families with school supplies, etc. The more kids who leave the classroom, the less power the teacher’s unions have...we also need to inform teachers that they can’t be forced to join the teacher’s unions and there are alternatives for insurance and retirement plans.

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Mandy Butler's avatar

Excellent point. My kids aren’t in the public school system but I still don’t want to see a whole generation ruined!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good point.

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The Fifster's avatar

Correct I believe there's no limit on the "degeneracy scale"

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devoalan's avatar

It's a contest. The winner gets clicks. Apparently clicks are worth a lot in the degeneracy lottery.

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JSR's avatar

True fact

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Julie Ann B's avatar

BFM, I understand where you’re coming from as far as staying and fighting but if I had school age children I wouldn’t be willing to take the risk of having them stay in the sick, perverted, amoral culture of most public schools. They’re not getting a quality education they’re getting cultural Marxist indoctrination. It’s just not worth the risk of losing their souls.

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