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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Six yrs for me. A friend’s bright, bubbly adorable

toddler went in for a round of catch up shots singing and speaking quite well for her age about their trip abroad. She came out a imp

noodle and either screamed (The DTaP Scream is a thing) or was limp up to 18 hours a day. They took her to the ER 4-5 times where they were “hand waved” every time they

mentioned vaccines until ONE nurse listens and said it was absolutely the vax! The girl never spoke, never hugged, never clapped nor

sang, barely ate, barely

slept, showed zero interest in her beloved pets, never made eye contact. On day 14, they thought she’d finally managed to sleep through the night. They found her dead in her crib. They were awarded a decent chunk of $$ but have never been the same.

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Brenda Bergsma's avatar

This is horrible, so horribly wrong. There are no words. Dear Father in heaven help us.

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Mary H.'s avatar

This is absolutely heartbreaking. All vaccines are crimes against humanity.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

And then we learn that most "Shaken Baby Syndrome" deaths and injuries are actually vaccine deaths and injuries. Meaning we have prosecuted and sentenced countless innocent, grieving parents to prison for the crime of trusting their doctors. With full knowledge of Big Pharma. How their crimes against humanity are covered up, by shifting the blame to the parents of the children killed by their doctors on Pharma's (indirect) payroll.

You (we) don't hate allopathic medicine/Big Pharma enough. If you did you'd never go to one again or let your loved ones go to them.

Natural healers are the only health care practitioners to provide health care. I'd only go to an MD to sew up major bleeding holes or fix broken bones. Injuries that need a butcher's or seamstress's skills to treat. They're poison peddlers, drug dealers no better than the illegal drug cartels, some even worse. They just have better lobbyists and PR specialists.

Note: same goes for veterinarians. Only use holistic vets, the others are as bad for your pet's health and life as MD's are for humans.

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Joanne Shannon's avatar

Yes! It pisses me off every time I watch a politician, or a newscaster, or anyone for that matter, be all concerned about the Mexican drug cartels bringing fentanyl over the border, while bowing down to the altar of allopathic deathcare.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

About that blame shifting...it's a pattern. Most of us are familiar today with the term "Breakthrough Infection" to connote a virus so virulent or a population behaving so recklessly that vaccines are unable to provide immunity from. Pre-2020 there was no such term as "Breakthrough Infection." It was known as "Vaccine Failure." Shifting the blame from a failed vaccine to a failure of the disobedient, noncompliant population. Just like "Shaken Baby Syndrome" makes criminals out of innocent parents doing what they're told to do by their doctors. Big Pharma/Big Health make us the criminals to shift the blame for harm from where it belongs, with them. They are evil.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Sorry to hear these kinds of stories. I hope that the family is able to find some kind of peace.

My 2 cents: also consider the rapid onslaught of EMF radiation in hospitals and the country since 2020, and the 1990s for that matter, created an explosive cocktail of heavy metals being irradiated. What happens when we put metal in the microwave, and that metal is inside us? Nothing good.

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SM's avatar

Every story like this breaks my heart 😭

Poor baby!

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Nancy Moore's avatar

We have to “help” ourselves and learn how to just say NO!

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Susan L.'s avatar

I want to write curse words hearing this story among so many about vaccine injury. A neighbor’s child was similarly injured, yet did not die….a lifetime of injury that tore the family apart. God bless these families and total support for the fight RFK has on his hands (if he is cabinet-approved).

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Kathy's avatar

And yet, if there was is one jar of baby food that is slightly off or one car seat that doesn’t function properly, it’s a five alarm fire.

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Bruno's avatar

Such infuriating hypocrisy

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JCrutcher's avatar

By the powerful name of Jesus, RFK will be appointed to do God's will. Amen.

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Momcat's avatar

Growing up, we knew no one with autism.. no one had autism when my kids were growing up... then we heard stories of an autistic child, then two, then three .. now all my friends have at least one grandchild with autism, many have several. We have two out of five with autism. One severe, will always need specil care, the other not severe, but still will be limited in opportunities as an adult, may be able to work & live on his own, but not sure yet.

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Joanne Shannon's avatar

I will swear for you: it’s fucking bullshit!

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Susan L.'s avatar

🎯Indeed.

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nancylee's avatar

When he is cabinet approved smile

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Dave Slough's avatar

Four full years of Trump to look forward to

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PamelaZelie's avatar

That story is multiplied across the nation. The number of children murdered or permanently injured skyrocketed during all these years of ‘safe and effective’ jabs. As a mother of three, I shudder and pray for all these poor families and pray for justice not only in heaven but here on earth.

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Völva's avatar

As a healthcare worker, I can testify to the skyrocketing numbers of children and young people with brains and bodies that are not working the way they should at all. It’s a testament to the high level of psychopathy in government that this has been allowed, supported and forced upon people. My “unvaccinated” (the oldest vaccinated up to four months, the youngest not at all) I have always been the healthiest kids in their class, and my son remains seemingly immune to Covid, being the only person I know who’s never had it (and of course he was not vaccinated).

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Double Mc's avatar

I cannot "like" this. How heartbreaking.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I only “like” being informed about this, so many untold stories like this, because tptb don’t want us to know 😢😡

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Reading your comment, then going off to laundry where I was washing /rinsing (mention this as it seems pertinent) and thinking, I came to wonder how those doctors, the ones (like ours) who really really cared about their patients, young and old, who encouraged the injections, who have become aware of that DTap scream, the faux SIDS deaths, feel, now that they know the truth? And in the practice we used, Dr. had his nurse administer the injections so baby would not connect Dr. with pain. So the nurse bears the active guilt. They cannot wash away, rinse away that knowledge.

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

and, they should NEVER be able to . . . it should stain their soul, permanently.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Whoever harms one of these little ones, better for him that a millstone be tied around his neck and he be dumped into the lake. Word of God. Who also offers forgiveness.

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shayne's avatar

Amen

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CitizenA's avatar

ViaVeritasVita, I’m so glad you brought up SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome).

It was unheard of when I had my children and almost all of us put our babies on their bellies to sleep so they wouldn’t aspirate vomit into their lungs if they spit up during the night/or nap. What an insane joke the medical community told parents that unless you put your baby on its back to sleep they could die of SIDS. Basically making it the parents fault. It WASN’T their sleeping position that killed them. They deflected their guilt onto parents. 💉

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CitizenA's avatar

And BTW, most of my 10 grandchildren are autistic; some more severe than others. That condition was also unheard of by most of us when we were raising our children. And I never heard of it or knew of an autistic child when I was growing up. What changed? More and more 💉 is what changed, as well as most of our food is ultra processed.

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Dawn B's avatar

I put my babies on their back despite what others said because it made more sense and I saw babies get flat heads in the back some having to wear a helmet because of it.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Thank you for your comment! My three babies were born in 1978, ‘82, ‘87—and for each baby the dogma of the nurse-midwives had changed. Stomach, side, back—-all to avoid “crib death”.

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Tom's avatar

They bury the truth in self-deception, to which they are then given over.

This sears their consciences. They are given over to depravity.

We were told this would happen, and glory to the One Who told us.

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nancylee's avatar

Drs have as a profession the shortest life span. guilty conscience ?

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Goodness! I was unaware. One does wonder. If iatrogenic deaths are the “3rd leading cause” or “9.5% of deaths”—-a very heavy burden on the soul.

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Hannah's avatar

In the space of two weeks: A friend's mother just died of a massive stroke. Another friend just died of turbo cancer. Two more friends have been diagnosed with stage 3 or 4 turbo cancer. Another is rapidly developing dementia. We tried to open their minds and urged them to stay away from the clot shot. They still aren't interested when we offer to share info about proven "alternative" treatments for both strokes and cancers that the pharma system won't tell them about. Their fear and reverence for their false medical gods keeps their hearts and minds closed. Our only avenue of support is prayer. And we grieve in silence knowing they can be healed.

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Danielle's avatar

This ^ is the hardest part.

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shayne's avatar

I have similar stories about friends. I don't say anything any more to them about what the likely cause is.

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Laura Z's avatar

This is so frightening! We just became great grandparents a month ago and we are traveling to see her for the first time this weekend. I plan to share this with her parents. Neither of them fell for the clot shots and I'm hoping they will be not give our great granddaughter any of the childhood vaccines. If scares me so much to think of my grandson and his wife going through this unimaginable horror show!

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Allison Gossett's avatar

If it helps, here is a post from Steve Kirsch reposted by TheMidwesternDoctor with a body of evidence that shows vaccines cause autism+, AND that the CDC knew about it. It might help to present documented, yet covered up, facts. Save our babies!!

https://open.substack.com/pub/stevekirsch/p/over-300-pages-of-evidence-from-the?r=r9a2h&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

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Fred's avatar

It’s the cover-up of the data that infuriates me the most! - for flipping decades!!! There’s gotta be unfathomable amounts of money in “treating” the disabled too, not just the pharm payouts. Took Covid censorship and vile attacks on those who spoke out to turn me into an anti-vaxxer. Painful indeed.

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Fred's avatar

I can send you my rant (to forthcoming parents) about how Wyeth disbursed the production lots so that they wouldn’t have clusters of SIDS in one locale, and how they eliminated the ICD code from injuries or deaths from “prophylactic immunization.” All retrospective studies rely on codes for identification. It’s sorta balanced.

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wily_coyote-genius's avatar

Agree with Turtles all the way down, but equally the book Unavoidably Unsafe, Childhood vaccines reconsidered.

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Tom's avatar

There was analysis done early in the . . . recent unpleasantness . . . that showed that damage by lot was done in such a way that a lethal dose was being calibrated. This was done by one manufacturer, but the other major manufacturer used pseudo-random lot numbers to hide this in the "noise."

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STH's avatar

Buy them the book Turtles All The Way Down

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CMCM's avatar

Also "Dissolving Illusions".

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AJ#2's avatar

And here is a horror story of the power of a TN judge to disable a child with no consequences possible to himself or the people who administered the 18 catch up vaccines. I met this sweet family at the CHD bus stop in TN and they are remarkable and need all our prayers.Please read and share.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/isaac-ihben-autism-vaccine-injury/

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

That is mind bogglingly evil.

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RunningLogic's avatar

It is truly evil. There absolutely need to be consequences when public officials make health decisions that have these kinds of horribly detrimental effects!

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KGer's avatar

There is no accountability, until there is jail time or other harsh punishments for the harms those public health officials have caused there will be no incentive for them to stop!

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nancylee's avatar

oh Id kinda like to see the judge given the exact same 18 shots all in the same day.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes I am 100% in favor of instituting real consequences!

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CeeMcG's avatar

What an awful story! That poor father! I can’t believe the mother just abandoned her children. 😢😢😢

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ItsMeAgain's avatar

Not just abandoned. She is the one that allowed the judge to have his way and force the kids to be vaccinated. Then she chose not to participate in the outcome and abandon her children. A special place in hell awaits her.

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Dawn B's avatar

That makes me mad that the health care person AND the mother didn't have common sense and at least catch up a little at a time instead of all at once.

Update... just read it all! So the judge ordered the vaxxes!

How awful.

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Katie's avatar

I believe the vax was the beginning of what took our son. I wish I had known then what I know now. We are a military family and you sit in front of a medical panel when you get an assignment overseas. Fully shot up is one of the parameters to move. That was years ago, if someone had gotten ahold of me as a young mama I would have listened. I just didn't know.

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Tom's avatar

"liked" for visibility

That military "doctor" was "practicing" "medicine" in such a way to write his own bullet points for his own performance report.

One day, he will answer for every decision. I will not let my rage destroy my testimony, I have enough trouble dealing with my own flesh.

Glory to God that little ones are forgiven because Jesus Christ fulfilled the sacrifice for those who cannot comprehend sin.

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Fred's avatar

“Fully shot up” is also a requirement for a promotion or change of rank, per a friend. IDK, but the sudden deaths of an officer in San Diego when he was given a new command, and a Navy seal candidate were part of my wake-up journey. Hard to believe that there was a silver lining to Covid.

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Tom's avatar

Following an order that would have gotten one hanged at Nuremberg will one day be held accountable. Maybe not in this life, but the next.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I’m so sorry 😞

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shayne's avatar

So very sorry, Katie.

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J. Fast's avatar

Thank you for telling this story. Allopathic medicine is premised on lies created by pharmaceutical companies and “doctors” are only mouthpieces…they have zero interest in actual healing. To do this to infants is the height of evil. Stories like yours are important.

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Janet's avatar

No words for my horror and sympathy. God help us.

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Bandit's avatar

This is one of the saddest things I've ever read. 😭

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AngelaK's avatar

Oh my dear God, that brought tears to my eyes.

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Joanne Shannon's avatar

It breaks my heart!

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Robin Landry's avatar

Crib Death should be thoroughly studied by someone other than the indoctrinated doctors who give the shots.

How about some of the keyboard warriors who can give us answers to weather control with details and patents in less than an hour after a ‘super’ cell hurricane makes land.

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Fred's avatar

With apologies for the repost: Before the 1960s, “crib death” was so rare that it wasn’t even included in infant mortality statistics. After the national immunization campaigns of the 1960s, the term SIDS was coined and in 1973, became an internationally coded diagnosis (ICD). But then in 1979, the ICD category for cause of death due to “prophylactic inoculation and vaccination” was eliminated. You gotta ask yourself why. Those codes are literally how everything is studied retrospectively. Mess with the codes and you change the outcomes any way you want.

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Tom's avatar

"The Science" learned how to hide the signal within the noise.

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Fred's avatar

Then, they started using other codes to describe SIDS, falsely lowering the incidence.

“The observation that the increase in the rates of non-SIDS causes of sudden unexpected infant death could account for >90% of the drop in the SIDS rates suggests that a change in classification may be occurring.”

https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/115/5/1247/67529/Changes-in-the-Classification-of-Sudden-Unexpected?

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Tom's avatar

We need to somehow double-blind actuaries who know how to use Bayesian statistics. The signal is intentionally hidden in synthetic noise.

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Trudy's avatar

I weep for this family's loss of their sweet child….Lord have mercy

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Janet's avatar

I resisted as a matter of my already excellent health for a long time. Never got flu shots or such. Kept out of docs offices. Quit going to the Medicare health things every year. Covid was the final straw. I wasn’t going to give my excellent health over to an experiment. I doctor myself now.

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shayne's avatar

I stopped going to my doctor a couple of years ago. He pushed the clot shot, flu shot, shingles shot every time I saw him. I've decided I don't care about blood work. I buy my insulin without a prescription. I get out in the sun, walk barefoot on the grass, and I'm waiting on my 128 HZ tuning fork. The Lord can take me anytime He decides.

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Gail Reynolds's avatar

You can go to Quest.com & pay independently for any blood work that you want to see how your body is doing. I paid out of pocket & now have a baseline for myself.

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shayne's avatar

That's interesting. Thanks for the info.

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Janet's avatar

👍🏻👍🏻😀

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AngelaK's avatar

Blood work is important.

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Janet's avatar

I get that at my functional med doc once a year. Medicare pays that but nothing else nor my supplement insurance. It’s expensive. I think once a year is plenty. They are basically a snapshot in time and I’m usually in line with levels. I don’t worry about it.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Same here, Janet. Most of the ‘blood work’ tests are designed to justify pushing maintenance (lifetime) Rx drugs on people, so they can be poisoned to death in slow motion. Sure, sometimes a blood test is helpful in diagnosing an infection or whatever; but they’ve successfully gotten folks obsessed with numbers for cholesterol, etc. What a racket. If one is eating healthy and otherwise leading a healthy life, what do those numbers matter?

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shayne's avatar

What they don't tell you is the brain needs cholesterol to function. Kinda interesting that folks are encouraged to take cholesterol reducing drugs, and the rate of dementia is going up.

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Janet's avatar

I know. Mine is over 200 and I’m ok with that. Older people really need it.

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Janet's avatar

Exactly! I’m in an online group that is based on healthy options. But folks are OBSESSED about vitamin and mineral levels. How many poops a day, every rumble their stomach makes, cholesterol, how much water to drink, every single thing. It’s starting to annoy me so dropping back. For my age I am healthier than almost all my friends of like age. I could walk the legs off my 50 yo daughter (she has since lost 150 pounds) so she can compete now. Lol. My functional med doc used those numbers to sell her own supplements. I take a tiny BP med but may try to get off that. That’s really only why I have continued there. She wouldn’t give me thyroid meds so I order what I need ,after an online assessment of 3 spaced thyroid tests, from a reputable Mexican pharmacy. Cheaper as well.

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Dena's avatar

Obsessed with cholesterol levels so they can push statins. They’re very wrong about their “mantra“ of the connection to heart disease. Lots of good info out there including a Midwestern Doctor.

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daverkb's avatar

And to ward of the horrors of 'malpractice' suits at the drop of a hat.

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Völva's avatar

You can also buy requisitions for bloodwork directly through a lab or through online companies, such as health one labs. It is a lot cheaper to do it that way, and if you still wish to visit a functional medicine provider, you can bring the already completed bloodwork with you and get more out of the visit that way.

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Janet's avatar

I do that for the functional doc thru local Quest lab but I can do it myself. Thanks for the reminder. I’m most interested in my thyroid levels but I can get this analysis done through that online group. It’s hard for me to get an accurate bp so I’ll have to think about that.

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Kathy's avatar

Yes, but sometimes based on bloodwork, they will talk you into taking a statin drug that you may not need. Of course you can still think for yourself. My mother is nearly 100 years old (99 and a third!) and she has never taken statins even though her total cholesterol is a little over 200. She has good HDL thanks to exercise (yes, she still does!) and a supplement called

Policosanol, which raises your HDL. o

Only drugs she takes is a little bit of blood pressure medicine. She has a so-so diet, but takes a lot of good supplements. By the way, both of her own parents died young of cancer. Genes aren’t everything. More and more they are seeing cancer is quite often a metabolic disease.

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Völva's avatar

A Swedish showed that the longest lived people have the highest total cholesterol. What our drug industry considers” high” cholesterol tends to be typical of healthy long lived individuals.

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CMCM's avatar

I've also read that when older, higher cholesterol is protective to the brain.

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Dena's avatar

And the brain needs cholesterol!

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Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

There are 5 causes of Cancer. If you email me at harmonicresearch@gmail.com, I will send you my article that was removed from the internet without my permission.

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Tracy's avatar

I'm even done getting bloodwork unless I feel something is wrong. Yes, I know things can be off but as my doctor started asking me, when I used to go to a doctor, was if I would do anything if something showed up. In other words will you take a med. I always said no so she said why bother. Exactly!!

No more mammograms, colonoscopies and such. I will handle everything in my own way and let God take care of the rest.

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Janet's avatar

Same. No more of those tests.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

AngelaK, Janet never said she didn’t get blood work.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Once you pull back

that curtain and really start researching, you’ll just be MAD as DAWN is at

the cartel. Happy researching. OpenVAERS.com JusttheInserts.org are a couple

of decent places to start. Then read DISSOLVING ILLUSIONS and TURTLES ALL the WAY DOWN, A Vaccine Story.

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Susan L.'s avatar

I so agree with this post. The research is essential to getting a good handle on all the garbage we have been fed over the years. CANNOT get my husband to do this! He thinks the deeper research I do is “just one side of the story” and gives just as much weight to the mainstream narrative. (He worked for Big Pharma for years, so the curtains are really heavy around him…)

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Janet's avatar

They are like total light blocking curtains around so many. Sad.

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Dee's avatar

That was my husband during the first months of the covid farce. He was all in on masks and “social distancing.” It was exasperating. He finally came around but it was a long slog.

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Susan L.'s avatar

Good to know that he came around! 👍🏻Gives me a modicum of hope.

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Tonya's avatar

Dissolving Illusions is a tough read, but thorough enough to expose everything.

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Kelli's avatar

Yes on those books!! And if you want an older one that will tick you off further:

I just started a book I've had on my shelf for over a year. It outlines decades of medical/pharmaceutical/chemical fraud, and was PUBLISHED IN 1982!

This book is VERY difficult to read, as it comes at the subject from the *base & supporting fraud* -- lab experiments on animals. Psychopathic humans (under the guise of "science") have been maiming, torturing, and slaughtering billions of animals a year, for like, forever.

https://www.amazon.com/Naked-Empress-Great-Medical-Fraud/dp/3905280027

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Kim Bisson's avatar

Yes KC! Those 2 books are huge eye-openers. Every parent, grandparent.....adult....should read them.

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Crixcyon's avatar

Glad to have you aboard. Some of us have been in that club for over 50 years.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

We must be about the same age. About 52 for me.

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Craig Warhurst's avatar

55 for me as a Chiropractor

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

35 years for me.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Me neither, having been in the Army for 34 years, we were always lining up for the latest jab.

And then came the pLandemic, and then came RFK Jrs book, "The Real Anthony Fauci" and I will never again let anyone inject me with one of their poisons. And believe me every time I go to the VA, they ask me if I want the "covid 19 immunization", the flu vaccine (which is redundant since "covid" is a SARS-COV virus), the shingles vaccine, etc. I tell them, "not now, or ever".

I am forever anti-vax, the truth is God gave us a magnificent immune system and every natural medicine we need in all of the animal and plant life He abundantly provided for us. Exercise every day, eat all of God's foods in moderation, make a lot of babies, or if you are finished making babies, practice a lot and live happy lives.

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Tom's avatar

"practice a lot and live happy lives"

God: "You laughed."

Sarah: "No, I didn't."

God: "Yes you did."

Paraphrased.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Tom, God certainly surprised Sarah, didn't he? Luckily, I'm not God, nor am I without children! So, practice it is!

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¡Andrew the Great!'s avatar

"I was never an anti-vaxxer. They turned me into one…….breaking the spell of the Industrial Complex in about a weekend."

Ditto. Absolutely ditto.

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

I was never an anti-vaxxer. They turned me into one…

Yup, I will second that one!

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Mary H.'s avatar

Words to live by … QUESTION EVERYTHING !

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Kelli's avatar

Sad thing is, what most of us recently discovered and can never again un-see, has been going on (an published about) for MANY decades.

I just started a book I've had on my shelf for over a year. It outlines decades of medical/pharmaceutical/chemical fraud, and it was PUBLISHED IN 1982!

This book is VERY difficult to read, as it comes at the subject from the base & supporting fraud -- lab experiments on animals. Psychopathic humans (under the guise of "science") have been maiming, torturing, and slaughtering BILLIONS of animals a year, for like forever.

https://www.amazon.com/Naked-Empress-Great-Medical-Fraud/dp/3905280027

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SteelJ's avatar

Never an anti-vaxxer? For decades, it's been verboten to speak a word there may be a possible downside to any of the cascade of vaccines foisted upon our kids. I'm genuinely puzzled so few recognized that as a glaring red flag. They have always refused to test against a placebo. Think there might be a reason for that? The vaccine makers, who we know have the public welfare first and foremost (sarcasm) got immunity from lawsuits, and the childhood vax schedule grew as if on steroids, at the same time our kids became more and more compromised by autism, asthma, allergies, et al. Those pushing the vaccine religion hardest, MSM, pharma, and physicians, are all financially incentivized to do so, on a very large scale. And punished if they don't, severely. I've been an anti-vaxxer since it became clear I should be one, decades ago. Maybe I'm as intolerant as a leftie, but I see it as a fundamental flaw in one's ability to use their God-given brain to have not seen through this horribly destructive scam for a long, long time. Yet some still declare themselves as not anti-vax, or not previously anti-vax, as if that somehow enhances their credibility, rather than destroys it.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I had a bad booster in 2001. Took me out of the workforce in my prime. Nobody listened. & ironically, it was the best job I ever had, working with autistic kindergarten students.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Oh you suddenly have autoimmune issues, we have no idea how that happened. Just a coincidence it happened after booster shots for New York State teachers requirement back then. & I got Lyme there too. More than my body could handle. Gaslighting for years until I recently found an integrative medicine doc ( I credit God for that)

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

But what a healthy path for all of us that take it. We should bring critical thought to all our narratives, personal and societal. We should learn to see and understand the power of narrative and the choices those stories imply.

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CHop's avatar

I was always suspicious, and stopped the flu shot after the one and only made us sick all year in 2002. But, I really became one with the HPV vax thanks to Dr. Mercola (about 10-15 years ago) I refused for my kids and afterwards personally know 2 girls who acquired POTS within 2 weeks of the shot. I also know 2 kids who were diagnosed with diabetes shortly after middle school meningitis shot (now the first of 2 shots)

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Fred's avatar

4-Stoke Power Chisel, but hoo-boy (cr Jeff), what an awakening!

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There is something here quite significant as to the 'Trump declares war on NeoCons' video which you sent to me as per the below, that is ... provided it is not some kind of AI concoction fabrication. Some of the stuff put out is often meant for special audiences. This particular offering may be designed to quiet down disquieting apprehensions as to how serious the new Trump administration is going to be about turning things around. It may also be a psychological preparing of the mindscape in regards to that which appears to be a quick paced staged launch, a phase-in of the initial planning of a totally transformation administration. As such, this 'announcement' (if that is what this is) likely to be a significant a tell as Musk buying Twitter, a huge tip-off as to what was and did come.

https://x.com/floridanow1/status/1858828294973432294

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Politico Phil's avatar

I love the way you phrase stuff. Completely different from my style - lol.

The first words out of Trump's mouth: "We have never been closer to WWIII than we are today under Joe Biden." That sets intent right there! Then he quickly says: "We will avoid it BUT we need new leadership." Since new leadership has ALREADY been elected, I think he is implying we need new leadership NOW.

I think this is your "tell" and I had the same take on the video that you said, "...likely to be a significant a tell as Musk buying Twitter, a huge tip-off as to what was and did come." I think he may be preparing the battle space for deposing Pedo Joe before Jan 20. My guess is it would be on the grounds of incompetence, dereliction of duty or treason. Perhaps this could be accomplished through impeachment, though that seems cumbersome and problematic, or through the officer corp of the military upholding their oath to the Constitution. I have no idea really. But the video is crystal clear. Trump just declared war.

I think your phrase hit the mark: "...which appears to be a quick paced staged launch..."

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In his own way, DJT is incredibly worldly smart, a team player. He can be trusted to deliver on his word, and to us to a some extent ... but moreover to his now long term backers. Although Trump is not the intellectual stuff of the Protestant Reformation, he remains is the Best Man for the Present Clear Danger. And if trending continues to trend, then we are looking at the biggest remake of the Western World since Northern Europe went Protestant some five hundred years ago. Of course, not of the same character, but BIG. Very BIG. That's what it is shaping up to be. (Some things we will like. Other things will remain as being an abomination lying in wait.)

And it looks like there was a Plan all along, one we could not see because of it protracted timetable many years in length.

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Wow, thoughts must really do travel by frequencies. This morning, I was writing a comment to you, got busy and then lost my comment. I was referencing the 500 year civilization cycle and the fact that we wouldn't see a really big change until this cycle finished coming to an end being timed about 500 years ago now. Even the top tier money elite families have an expiration date. At a minimum, the USG empire must come to an end and I think we can see this happening in real time. The American empire, via Scottish rationalism and the American Revolution, is the culmination of the right wing of the Enlightenment. The left wing of the Enlightenment via the French Revolution ended with the fall of the USSR. When that happened, I knew it was just a matter of time before the American empire collapsed ending this 500 year cycle. So far, the pattern has held though, of course, my vantage point is very limited.

What's remarkable to me is that you see something BIG shaping up linked to the same time frame. But that's where my vision fails me. I have no clue what to anticipate going forward. Nor do I have any clue how much turmoil/violence will be involved in this tidal change... or not. "Ideas have consequences." But I don't see these new ideas yet. I suppose they are just seeds at this point, too small to notice.

I'm thinking that the Marxism of the Biden regime is the last sputter of that hateful ideology like a Roman candle giving off it's last flickers before going cold. It has certainly died everywhere else on the planet and it's ironic that it's death sputter takes place in America. British/American exceptionalism is also dying at the same time - way past it's expiration date. I think Zionism is an off-shoot of that and threatens to go out in a bang... and that will be the end of that and may indeed fulfill the Middle East Armageddon expectations of the Dispensational church, without the "rapture" of course.

The theologian James Jordan once remarked that "civil government" will one day go the way of the institution of slavery. Both institutions have brought nothing but chaos, tyranny and bloodshed to mankind during this whole cycle. Perhaps this is the tidal change for the next 500 year cycle. Empires are illogical because they cannot be sustained and that is what governments always strive for, more power. That institution is a total failure. No society would ever vote to go to war so the citizens are never asked. The elite decide for them. This 500 year cycle has proven that this Governmental institution is a complete failure. Something new will have to replace it in the next cycle but the seeds of ideas for this are too small at this point to discern.

In the meantime, we get a front row seat on the unfolding termination of this 500 year cycle and the concurrent collapse of the last empire. If you have an speculations, I'm all ears.

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Re war ... the rulers plant idea mushrooms in people's 'minds' where such grows in darkness, continually watered and fertilized by repetition. Indeed, most people are more dark mushrooms with implanted legs and arms than the elusive illusion we see walking and driving about in our everyday experience. I am, of course, being somewhat facetious. But not by much.

It is true that the Protestant Reformation movement was embraced by kings, princes, electors and the such for reasons of their own of purposeful self-interest as a furtherance of getting out from underneath the thumb of the Vatican. America was the place where the Reformation was in its strongest incarnation, this for the first circum two hundred years of its colonial life. But by the American War for Independence, the Calvinist attitude was already severely abraded and worn down in the main centers of human existence, most prominently in the North. Imagine my shock when I found out that John Adams and Abigail were Unitarians! Unitarians in Massachusetts Bay Colony!

What separates the offshoots of the Protestant Reformation, religious in nature and striving impetus, and what is now going on is not bigness per se. It is rather that any remake of the West is without any real moral attitude save only that which arises out of materialistic necessity. And so, what is going on now in the Collective West is more a reversion to the mean than any transformation of character brought about by Godly embrace as was the case in the American colonies, and later the American Christian constitutional states. We in our circumstance might or may anticipate relief, but understand the people are already being tricked because the people see surface alterationd but never the sameness of the core underneath which is solidly the Babylonian System, loosely construed.

You may now well imagine why Ecclesiastes is my favorite Book of the Bible as it so well characterizes the human plight and the ephemeral nature of all circumstance of living.

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History is so instructive, if only people knew more about it. My college years were spent on other subjects, but about 10 years ago I had the time to go back and study a lot of history, and discovered how truly fascinating it is. The more you read the history of all past civilizations, the more you see the same kinds of things repeatedly playing out. Only the details pertaining to specific time periods are slightly different. But overall, human behavior and motivations don't seem to change much over the millennia. And yes...Ecclesiastes really does capture the nature of all things. Written for its time, but just as applicable now. Power. Control. Quest for massive wealth and influence. Near total absence of morals or values. Willingness to do virtually anything at any cost to achieve said power & control over everyone else. It's always the same story, over and over.

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The trick is to get the right books to read. And the older the better. Some good writing made it into the 1950s, usually older writers. Reading the classics never hurt anybody.

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I don't and have never bought the story of Trump saving us all. I certainly hope I am wrong, however. There are just as many red flags you can point to as there are hopeful things.....so....(as Jeff would say)

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Trump is a mixed bag. He is not one of us by many metrics but nonetheless he comes with a very human range of feeling which allows him to have sympathy for the plight of his fellow beings. He has done many good things and some things not very good ... and when it comes to covid and warp speed 'not so good' appears to be vast understatement, even though I am in not position to say what Trump knew or did not know. Nonetheless, Trump is one of the ablest of men in our times, both smart and skilled ... and in no way just an average man. But as well let me say that I most often agree with the criticisms of Trump. And yet, recognizing the good, bad and ugly is all mixed up in most of humankind, I voted for the Trump ticket. I mostly did that because to vote in the other direction or to not vote at all in the present circumstances would have been dereliction, the vacating of all sense of moral obligation.

Musk is another bag of worms. Very smart, very complex. Like Trump, Musk is an insider of sorts and very deeply connected. If I had to choose between Musk and Trump to be a friend, I would choose Trump. I will leave it there.

The great herds of humanity are always ruled over by the very few. And with a few exceptional periods in history, most rulers most of the time are far from being angels. There is a huge remake of Western Civilization in the works now by all appearances, and gaining steam. The great herds of humanity will get some, perhaps a good deal of relief out of it but they most certainly will be fooled and tricked once again by a new narrative which is by all forgetting is more an old narrative rekindled. That is, the more things change, the more they remain the same. That is the old saw, and still hold tried and true. And as well, the pendulum is forever always swing from on extreme to another with a patch of relative rest and calm in between the extremes of swings.

Israel is very much like the US in that most of the population is upset with their government just as are we ... and for many of the same reasons. My hunch is that the Apex Money already understands that Israel too has to be pulled in from the brink of impending disaster. I believe that 'business as usual' with the maniacal Zionist madmen cannot simply go on forever. One way or another all insanity eventually burns itself out ... for awhile. The only questions are: 1) at what cost, and 2) ... at whose greater expense?

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Johnny-O's avatar

If I had to choose between Elon and Trump.....ha! What an exercise. I too would choose Trump. Any day.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Saw your comment after posting mine. I see we are doing some parallel thinking.

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daverkb's avatar

Well, you are after all one of the less than a handful which understand anything which I might say. And I have received much enjoyment and satisfaction from that.

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Politico Phil's avatar

This insight gave me pause for thought. 2 minutes

If we don't get bombed back to the stone age, perhaps society will use the capability of communications and AI that could make referendums instantly available to "leaders"... or something along those lines. I don't think people would vote for wars the way the elites do.

https://rumble.com/v5rixqb-alexis-de-tocqueville-accurately-predicted-what-kind-of-tyranny-democratic-.html

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A parallel observation in de Tocqueville's L'Ancien Régime et la Révolution is that in spite of the slogan of Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité, the revolution created more centralized power than the Sun King, Louis Quatorze could have possibly have dreamt of. That one stuck with me. And now take the modern techno-terror state with the ante upped a hundred fold!

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I do not trust the ultra Zionists Trump has surrounded himself with. Trump says he is worried about WWIII, but is a bootlicker to Israel, and that war which has already expanded and is becoming ever more complicated, could very quickly spiral out of control. Arab states may very well join forces that our politicians seem to think is unthinkable. China and Russia could very easily become involved with Iran, who Trump and others seem to think we can just bully around as we please, and that is very very far from the truth.

Regarding Elon.....he was an enemy of people on the right like five minutes ago. Amnesia in our country is such a blessing to the powers that be. X gives its biometric data it is gathering to a shady Israeli company. We also mustn't forget how Israel was testing ground zero for the bioweapon shots. So so many red flags.....

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Politico Phil's avatar

Yup, I agree with you about the Zionists as you can see from my earlier posts on the subject this morning. Trump is a big question mark for me in regards to the Zionism thing. I trust him for the fight he is in with the NeoCons and the Marxists. I am very curious to see how he handles Israel but I am in your camp on that subject. We'll see. I'm instinctively fearful of the whole AI transhumanist push and don't trust anyone on that subject. But I'm rooting for the anti-Marxist hometeam in this change of gov't fight. It's like a damn movie. I know somebody is going to get killed, I just don't know who.

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Yes, someone smarter than me said sometimes you have to fight evil with evil. Maybe that is the case with the infighting of the oligarchs/permanent state actors. I also wonder if one almost is doomed to have to have some of these less than pleasant characters around just by nature of the system. Who knows. What a cesspool.

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