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goodnightrose's avatar

I'm sorry this driving a wedge between you and your mom and that's not funny at all but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't getting a pretty good kick out of the left's sudden penchant for conspiracy theories like the Trump shooting having been staged. 😬

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Peter GL's avatar

as soon as it happened I told may wife that were it not for the dead and injured the left would call it "fake news". Well it seems that lasted all for less than a week

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Cynthia's avatar

I saw a man on the street interview last week asking democrats about the assassination attempt. They were all saying it was staged. that Trump did this and had no problem killing or injuring his supporters. You could tell they actually believed what they were saying.

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Susan's avatar

strong delusion, they believed in the lies

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WP William's avatar

They have NO PROBLEM with killing opposing candidates, or even their own if that's what it takes for the Progressive Movement (Revolution) to move forward. These masses of complicit enablers are even Stockholm Syndromed enough to line up for their own executions. Cultocracy

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daverkb's avatar

The old saying is that even a broken clock is right twice a day. But even so, that the Cretinous Marxist Band of Merry Cretins came out with this shrieking of 'Staged, Staged' took me by surprise because the risk in this particular deployment is that the spotlight could just as easily be turned back on them.

However, 911 happened under a 'Republican' administration ... and that it was a production rolled out of a Swiss Cheese Factory with facilities located in the Middle East as well as from the Emerald City on the Potomac. So who is to say?

About Butler? All I can say is that no matter what happen, no matter what doesn't make sense, the Official Narrative is now cast in cement. This was one of my principle take homes for the RNC held in Milwaukee. And neither the Commie Left or whatever the Republican side is evolving into, nobody is going to touch The Narrative with a ten foot pole.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Yep, and look what happened to Jones for Sandy Hook.....that lesson was an intentional warning...

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daverkb's avatar

Yes! Sandy Hook was entirely 'censored' and 'transed' into inviolate idiot's 'truth'. I am glad you said it out loud.

And we are really finding out that there is a lot of uncritical gullible bitting down of fish hooks going on here today. Sad to see ... and the reason why I think on many days that things only have one place to go. And that is to total collapse and into a really dark night. And I hate to say it starkly out loud.

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Johnny-O's avatar

I find it odd how positively certain people are (one way or the other) about what happened re the shooting. The fact of the matter is none of us know. All of the possibilities out there are possible.

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CStone's avatar

Hi, Misery. Since you need company, I hear that OBiden has cleared his calendar. You and he seem to have a lot on common.

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daverkb's avatar

CStone! Now I have to really wonder? Because when I hear things like, "Since you need company" and "I hear that OBiden ...", I really have to wonder if your are writing form The New American Troll.

Really, this lack of apropos to anything spewing has the appearance of four year old talk.

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Johnny-O's avatar

How is your binary world going? You do realize it is possible to not like any of the candidates, right?

I would love to hear your mental gymnastics as to how people like Peter Thiel, Larry Fink, and Jamie Dimon are going to make things better for the average American. They are literal swamp creatures. Enjoy the slow walk off the cliff.

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Doug's avatar

Johnny, although it might be an unpopular opinion to hold in this crowd (sorry, crowd - I love you people), I see merit in this observation.

I remember after GWB took office, he began bringing on the MOST LOATHESOME people he could find to fill his cabinet appointments. These were people that immediately set about destroying the progress made in previous decades with regard to civil rights, the environment, the economy, etc. Every one was worst than the last. It wouldn't have surprised me if he'd appointed Jeffrey Epstein to the post of "child welfare czar".

And we saw what that wrought: 2 pointless wars that never accomplished the goals they were supposed to, setting up 7 more wars for Obama, and the utterly cynical corruption of every regulatory body that hadn't already been corrupted. Huge growth in the Administrative State with particular emphasis on the internal security apparatus, resulting in the steady erosion of our "God-Given" rights.

Trump made a lot of silly mistakes in his first term appointments. I was hoping he'd learned his lesson, but I'm thinking maybe he didn't. Maybe he's hiring these people just so he can fire them - if so, I hope he's got some good people in mind to back them up. And really-good security.

But it looks like he's already been shown the JFK alternate-angle film... Actually, he experienced it in real-life a couple of weeks ago. Perhaps these appointments are his strategy for surviving until he's sworn in. But by then, the die will have been cast - I think buddying up to deep-state operatives may well be his undoing.

Folks, again, sorry. I'm just saying don't be taken in by the "great man will save us" schtick. We need to save ourselves. Don't become complacent just because your man gets in. Washington has a way of corrupting everybody. Not trying to be gloomy, just real.

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daverkb's avatar

Totally thoughtful points ... and indeed truth in words. And I hate to say it, but it make take either an outright civilizational collapse or else 75 years of brutization and misery like with Soviets before the rats are cleared out.

And even so, rats never totally disappear. The only go underground for a spell.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Hey, I'm open to all possibilities. I can't nor can anyone here pretend to actually know what Trump has in store. All we can do is make predictions based on his past and what is currently happening. And by those metrics, it currently ain't looking too good.

I love the hypothesis you laid out about staying alive until in office. Everyone needs a glimmer of hope, but I certainly am not holding my breath.

I would love to see RFK get into the national conversation. His press conference remarks yesterday were pretty damn good. We won't hear anything about the record amount of money added to the deficit by Biden and Trump unless someone else is in the race. We won't talk about about chronic illness or the disastrous plandemic response unless someone else is in the race.

And disclaimer to those who have knee jerk reactions - I don't trust Kennedy either.

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daverkb's avatar

Johnny-O! How peculiar it all is? The cast in cement, the written in stone buy-ins on both sides of the factional equation. And this is not to even say that one side is right and the other is wrong. But for sure, the buy-ins both sides are reflexive and a suspension of both critical analysis based in critical tools of thinking.

I can say two things: 1) Butler makes no lick of sense (all edges are jagged and no pieces of the puzzle fit together), and 2) The Narrative complete with The Perfect Picture are set in concrete more inflexible than anything the Romans had.

The Evil can only persist in time absent critical thinking and analysis. And longer term, without prosecutions for wrong doing.

The more things are fudged, the deeper grows the mire.

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Johnny-O's avatar

It seems as though all critical thinking has left the room for many, unfortunately. People can't even confront the fact Trump is out talking about appointing the very swamp he claims to drain....sigh.

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daverkb's avatar

I always try to get to things I can say with relative absolute certainty (yep, relative absolute certain! Now there is a real fudge flavored stating!).

1) Nobody gets on the presidential stage without a power something orchestrating behind him. And that real money and real power ... and real connectivity.

2) Nobody get could possibly survive what Trump has survived and appears to be surviving without 'a little help from his friends ... which points directly back to point number one above.

Therefore ... fairy tales, spun narrative, tall tales, blitzes and noise ... these and much more simply don't cut mustard. And when this is forgotten, it's then the blind leading the blind ... and all parties to blindness.

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Johnny-O's avatar

To your blind comment: Love is blind, and boy do Trump's followers love him.

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daverkb's avatar

I know, I know. And as you know, love is qualified in many, many places in the Bible ... an none of it love qualified outside the strictures of the law.

So what have I learned today? I have learned that some people probably can get more truth out of the Bible than other people can by barking up the same tree thirty-five times.

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Doug's avatar

I was guilty of suspecting that for about ten seconds. Imagine hiring someone to shoot at your head and just get your earlobe. I thought maybe if Trump were serious about staging something like this, he'd hire a Hollywood special effects team, get a squib installed behind his ear, and coordinate its activation with one of the "shooter's" shots. But then my rational mind returned.

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Susan's avatar

at least and good thing your rational mind did return, delusion is at a high point right now!

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TW's avatar

Ah yes, those zoomable red dot sights, where at that range the red dot covers the whole head. Super accurate! 🙄

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