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My sister, who up until last month still defended Biduhn, said that at the country club in Boston where she was, when the announcement came over the TV, the people cheered and started chanting Trump Trump Trump.

I said I didnā€™t understand. Biduhn hasnā€™t actually been in charge for the last 4 years, but his administration implemented the entire D agenda perfectly.

If thatā€™s what they support, why do they want him out? She changed the subject.

Those people are stupid sheep.

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Listening and reading comments from people on other sites and pages is appalling. šŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø To listen to the regurgitated media lies from people who STILL actually believe bidum was a wonderful ā€œpRESIDENTā€ makes me want to vomit. And to hear them say food is going to double under Trump and weā€™re all going to starve, heā€™s going to destroy America, heā€™s a dictator blah blah blah just makes me throw up in my mouth. ā€œThose people are stupid sheepā€ is an understatement.

At this point - anyone still asleep is CHOOSING to leave their head buried under concrete. I heard it said a small percentage of the population will never wake up - I think we are here.

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The Thessalonians verse is rapidly becoming one of my favorites.

2 Thessalonians 2:10-11

... they perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie ....

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That verse says it all. God chose the exact right word too. Delusion. šŸŽÆ Thanks for the verse reminder today.

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Tripped and fell running to my Bible after you posted this scripture! I Read the verses just above what you quoted and got more chills..

7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. But the one who restrains is to do so only for the present, until he is removed from the scene.

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And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord [Jesus] will kill with the breath of his mouth and render powerless by the manifestation of his coming,

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Dr. Tenpenny did a talk in 2021 that featured these verses. She was addressing the mass delusion about so many trying people to shove jabs down everyone's throat. I think many of us are getting used to the willfully deaf & blind by now, but in 2021 the scale of it was a rude awakening.

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ā¤ļø ā¤ļø I love those verses too! Thanks for posting them.

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But I can see how the Left could use v. 9 ("pretended signs and wonders") against the assassination attempt. Not, I imagine, that they are likely to do so.

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Have you watched the Tucker interview with John Rich? Very powerful.

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I wish more people would come to know the fallacies of the Scofield Bible. ā€œPre-tribulation raptureā€ and ā€œIsrael can do no wrongā€ are such dangerous teachings, believed by SO MANY Evangelicals.

Perhaps you reading this now are one of the mislead. Do not be fooled by those that say they know. You can look it up on wels.net. Basically the Jews forfeited the designation as the chosen people when they rejected the promised Messiah, Jesus the Christ. God chose Israel as the people to bring Jesus into the world. The (edit: "Extremist" Jews) Jews not only rejected him, they killed him and continue to believe that Christians should be killed as heretics (Edit: Talmudic Jews believe Christians are heretics, AFAIK). God still wants Israel to accept Jesus as the savior, as well as all Gentiles (non-Jews). (See 1 Timothy 2:4; 2 Peter 3:9).

Godā€™s focus is on Christians; followers of his promise; followers of his murdered son. All are welcome to the table of Christ. Not all will accept the invitation and many will try to prevent others from learning of or even walking towards the feast.

Many believers will be fooled (per the Bible). Educate yourselves and donā€™t be fooled. Be in the world but donā€™t be of it. Be prepared for tribulation, be prepared for Jesusā€™ return, and like John Rich said, donā€™t fall for the mark of the beast. The vaccine mandates were a test. If you failed that one, donā€™t fail the next one, which may be digital currency requirements through the (non) Federal Reserve.

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I really donā€™t know much about the Schofield Bible, but Iā€™ve read the Bible through more than 35 times, whole cloth, so to speak; not verses picked here and there to support an argument. I think your camp is like the Pharisees of old who missed the first coming of the Messiah because they were so sure they had the corrupt and only interpretation of the Holy Scriptures.

Paul makes it plain in Romans that God is not done with Israel. The Old Testament prophets speak of events involving Israel that have yet to come to pass. Godā€™s chastisement of Israel drives them from the land. Repeatedly. But remnants return at the appointed times.

They came back miraculously in 1946.

You mischaracterize those who see it differently from you. None in my camp believe ā€˜Israel can do no wrong, anymore than we believe America can do no wrong.ā€™ The government is not the people.

But we stand with Israel in her religious war against the Muslims, who seek her complete and final destruction and we believe it is the correct interpretation of scripture to do so.

I am curious as to how you think our present state of affairs would be greatly improved if somehow we all began to believe as you do.

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Before Almighty God, I stand with Israel!

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I also stand with the nation called Israel of the present time. But I utterly reject the premise that they are a God fearing nation that is submitted to His word and serves/acknowledges Him. I hope and long for the day this happens, but have little assurance it will happen even in my lifetime. Israel of today are no more "God's Own people" than are the people of France or ARgentina.

I abhor the way much of the world treats Israel, as I also abhor the same for Argentina and India and Brasil and..... yet I also know His people ARE in all thiose countries.

Israel rejected Jesus when they hollered for Barrabas to Pilate whcn asked their preference. Note well that same crowd of JEWS then cried the liuder CRUCIFY HIM and refused to repent after He rose from the dead and walked amongst them again for forty days.

Yes,thousands heard the Word preached in Jerusalem on Pentecost and later, and turned in response. But over the next while God made it abindantly clear that judaism as it was is no more. Note well, it was not long after that He made it abundantly clear that the old dietary laws, feasts, the very temple itself, were no longer tied to knowing the One who made all and demanded their trust. Luke's treatise on the birth and early function of the Church carries this story well. Which is WHY God had him writeit. You might stop and go read again Peter's earthshattering experience during the time shortly before and then after his amazing encounter with Cornelius and his household. Acts was completed right about 68 or 69 AD.. very shortly before Jerusalem was sacked and destroyed (precisely as Jesus fortold in every particular) in AD 70.

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Every Jew is not the same as every other Jew! Would you make that claim about black people or any other group? We used to call that prejudice and discrimination or racism. Why do you feel so free in using it against Jews?

There are Messianic Christians, Jews who worship Jesus.

There is the Rabbi Jonathan Cahn, zealously Christian that you might find interesting.

I rejected Jesus. I committed the sins that nailed Him to the cross. I eventually came to my senses. And the Bible says the nation of Israel will also.

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Peter, James, John, Saul/Paul, were all JEWS, remember? Cornelius was NOT a jew, ever. All of these were part of the body of Christ.

NOWHERE did I ever say ALL jews are the same, nor will I. I know and have known many, some within, somewithout, Gpd's Kingdom.

There are only TWO KINDS of Jews: those who are IN CHRIST and those who are NOT/NOT YET in Christ. I love and serve both kinds.

Joseph of Arimethea was a jew, no? He was part of the Sanhedrin, if memory serves aright. Up until the time he witnessed the triel of Jesus and His condemnation to death, he had not considered Him much more than another one promoting something or other. But after he witnessed Him on trial, saw the crowd whipped up to condemn Him, then WATCHED Him suffer and die, he stuck his neck WAAAAAY out there. He owned a new tomb, never yet used, and went to Pilate for permission to bury Jesus in that, at his expense. Friday morning he was not In Christ. His eyes were opened through the afternoon andinto the evening. He put his own life on the lone to honour this innocent man.

The pastor of the church I attend (two years now) was born into a jewish family, tent to shabbat at temple weekly, observed all the feasts, he grew up jeiwish. He was a jew not yet in CHrist back then. BUT... he turned to Jesus himself when he was a struggling young man, and judaism did not address is troubles. He has now been a jew in Christ for some thirty five years. He brings a very interesting perspctive as he teaches the scriptures, articularly when it comes to deciphering many of the cultural aspects of what was written way back when.. remember, ALL of the New Testament was written by JEWS... and I have no problem with that, in fact am glad of it.

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Help me out here.. I cannot recall where the Scripture declares that the whole nation of Israel will come into God's Kingdom. Would you be so kind as to cite chapter and verse? Thank you for your kind consideration.

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Romans 11:26-28

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

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I didn't see him making a claim about "all Jews being the same". Rather that ancient Israel collectively (through their leaders) rejected Christ, and effectively kicked out all the messianic believers; and that modern Israel is a secular state and not a "faithful people of God".

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Modern America is a secular state and not a ā€˜faithful people of Godā€. We pray for change. And so do the Godly in Israel.

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Very much true. And though I can't answer for Nico, from what he's written elsewhere I suspect he'd also agree with that attitude.

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Well said. I concur with your statement!

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Amen and Amen, Willing Spirit!šŸ™āœļøšŸ™Œ

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To read the Bible without proper hermeneutics is like sailing the ocean without a compass and a transit. How did you read the Bible? As far as their war against the Muslims, all intel Iā€™ve looked at points to another false flag operation like the USS Liberty. And for them to shoot their own people so that they wouldnā€™t have live hostages? The Hannibal directive? I find that unconscionable. However, I stand with any innocents murdered in the name of religion. Education is the way to get out of the mess and the only way to get out of it. Not war. Jesus wants peace makers not just peace keepers or conquerors. Being less wrong doesnā€™t make anyone right.

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I believe it is beyond rude for the group of you to come here to Jeff Childersā€™ substack and attack Christians. Shame on you all.

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You have found plenty of time, I see, to familiarize yourself with anti Israel propaganda. Why? Whatā€™s in it for you? What do you hope to accomplish, other than division and promotion of hatred toward an ethic group?

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My only goal is to open the eyes of those that may be mislead, if they can have their eyes opened, similar to those that believe MRNa vaccines have more reward than risk. If I can save a soul from following false doctrine, all the better. I don't tell anyone to hate this or that. I only provide information that I believe I can support with references and logic.

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Promoting false doctrine cannot save any soul from following false doctrine. You are not the authoritative determination of false doctrine.

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And you would have the proper hermeneutics, of course. Iā€™m not interested in all your anti Israel, anti Jews taking points. Go share them with your Brown Shirt brethren.

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And here you end with ad hominem attacks. "And you would have the proper hermeneutics, of course. Iā€™m not interested in all your anti Israel, anti Jews taking points. Go share them with your Brown Shirt brethren." Respectfully, and with love, brother, dropping to that low shows your ignorance and destroys any argument you have tried to promote. When a person can no longer support their argument with logic they often fall to character assassination. May God bless you with open eyes and open ears to hear the truth.

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Amen...

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"Basically the Jews forfeited the designation as the chosen people when they rejected the promised Messiah, Jesus the Christ."

This is summarily untrue. Countless commentaries have been written countering this theory.

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Hitler no doubt promoted this idea widely, broadly and thoroughly.

If you hate Jews, just say so.

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What part of my comment gave you the SLIGHTEST idea that I hate Jews?

Also.....summarily untrue.

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Iā€™m so sorry, Austin, I was actually meaning that for the one you quoted.

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Thank you for clearing that up. šŸ¤—

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I hate no one but I do hate murderers, as my father does. All murderers. No matter the race, creed or color.

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WHO wrote those commentaries, and in wat bases? Jhn's Revelation clearly reveals how the perfidious jews, as a people, rejected Jesus.. remember for whom they called when Pilate asked whom he should free and whom he should kill? WHO were that crowd?

You would do well to learn more about the zealots, who they were, their history up to the days of Jesus, and then over the next forty years.

Next read John's writings on what was comng down the pike "shortly".

Oh, and put down your scofield notes and learn to exegete the scriptires yourself. Its not rocket science.

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I killed Jesus. He died for my sins as though I were the only sinner, who ever lived.

There is no need to blame anyone else. I am responsible for the suffering and death of God. I knew the Truth, but rejected it.

But when I came back in total despair, He lifted me up out of the miry clay and restored me.

Psalm 40:2

ā€œHe lifted me out of the slimy pit, out of the mud and mire; he set my feet on a rock and gave me a firm place to stand.ā€

And I will love Him with all my heart, soul and mind forever.

Jesus is a Jew.

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Failed logic without linking the commentaries. Similar to ā€œscientific consensusā€. Who had Jesus put to death? Where did they go after his death and resurrection? What do you know about Noahide laws? Itā€™s uncomfortable when you realize that a belief is wrong, like all those vaxed that wonā€™t see the damage thatā€™s been done and still believe ā€˜safe and effectiveā€™. Itā€™s ground shaking/shattering when your views are found to be incorrect. Itā€™s hard to look at changing paradigms. May God bless you with the ability to at least look at the possibility that what you believe may not be the truth. BTW, Christianity doesnā€™t believe in killing to make others believe. The ā€˜Christian Crusadesā€™ were not Christian at all. Other religions are currently killing Christians worldwide. More Christians are persecuted now than ever in history. See www.open doors.org for more information.

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I killed Jesus. My sins cost him the shedding of his blood. All the rest was just the window dressing.

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https://www.beliefnet.com/faiths/2004/02/who-killed-jesus.aspx

The Jews didn't cause the death of Jesus, nor did the Romans. They were merely instruments carrying out what God had decreed. I killed Jesus

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thanks, thought I was the only one

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No you are not the only on. And any Scofield 'bible' ought to be chucked out. Much better to rely upon Geneva notes, Matthew Henry notes and the confessions of faith from the Reformation.

Scofield is very suspect. Here is a another guy who comes out of nowhere, goes everywhere, has no visible means of support and has a powerful connection to a New York Jewish lawyer named Untermeyer. Scofield ends up with easy access to either the Oxford Press or Cambridge Press (I forget which) ... and gets promoted everywhere by then propaganda press of the day as 'the latest new thing'. The whole Scofield Saga has 'the look' of an especially designed effort to tears down orthodox Christian doctrine by making chopped liver out of the Bible. Basically, the Law is consistent from the first book to the last book of the Bible and in Christ's Church, we are either Christians or not at all. Christian means that we cannot tack on a certain 'dispensational elements' willy-nilly using the grammatical device of a hyphen.

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Why are people attacking Christians who support Israel on this post today?

It has nothing to do with Jeff Childersā€™ topic.

Why are you creating this spirit of controversy at this period of time?

I call you out as a bunch of Pharisees!

You are sure you know what is true and you have no room for God acting in any way you might not agree with.

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That's real easy! Call everyone a Pharisee! And then everyone quivers and falls over! Crash!

Christians should support only one thing ... Christianity. Not hyphenated Christianity. Not adulterated Christianity as in dispensationalized jig Christianity.

And instead of impugning me guilty as to some certain something, nothing something, why aren't you just plain honest enough to say you disagree? And by the way, what you are doing hear is pretty transparent. It's like stealing from the cookie jar using words.

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Again! Why are you attacking Christians, who interpret scripture differently from you?

What are you gaining from causing such controversy?

What an awful witness for unbelievers!

To whom, I would say, there is freedom in believing in the Lord Jesus Christ.

And peace and joy and satisfaction.

No man owns Christianity or the Truth. The Holy Spirit is the revealer and the guide.

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You say no man owns Christianity and this is truth. You say the Holy Spirit is the revealer and the guide, and this is the truth. You say that believing in the Lord Jesus Christ is freedom, but I say only if one believes as Jesus taught men to believe.

So why are you attacking me with a self-invented predicate that 'I am attacking Christians'? And further asserting that is what I am doing? And for asserting that we are Christian or else not at all an untrue statement? George Whitefield pretty much said the same thing ... either Christian or not at all? And that pretty much excludes hyphening people onto the vine who are anti-Christian, and who persecute Christians. That is what I said.

If you have any complaint, have at it. But please, no more out of the blue assertions of just plain fancy. And furthermore, to weave a tapestry of the non-script, to speak to nothing in particular, is to produce hot air good for nothing.

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Why are you attacking Christians, who interpret scripture differently from you?

I do not "interpret scripture" I let it interpret itself.

If you are amongst those who adhere to Cyrus Scofield's blather, try this: turn to Matthew, around 23 or 4 or so, to the place where Jesus is with his guys at the Temple in Jerudalem. He dclares "see this temple" Before this generation is passed, it will be desttroyed uterly, not one stone upin another". Does the Bible ever mention that this predicted destruction actually happened? No? How do we KNOW, then? Simple. Jes s SAID it would heppen, and when. It also happens that the extrabiblical historical record, which has been proven accurate many times, records exactly who, where, how, and when, that "job" was done.

After that discussion Jesus and the Twelve go for a long walk, end up at the Mount of Olives, and their cinversation is recorded in the gospels. Mathew is easiest to follow Jesus proceeds to describe a whole slew of "things" that will behappening soon.... stop now and go read that conversation. Falling away, persecution, tribulation (NOT the same as persecution), one taken one left behind, the mark of the beast, go and read that conversation. then He plainly declares that ALL THESE THINGS WILL TAKE PLACE before THIS generation passes away. That would put the end of all those things by about 73 AD. Scofield and his adherents are all in a tizzy about which of those things are GOING to happen when and where and how.... when, per the Lord of Glory, they ALL have already happened. WHY look ye for that which has come?

I was saved in 1974. Many of my new friends were deep into Scofoeld and his ilk, all marvelling about how many CObra helicoptors will be flying out of the east to come and destroy Jerusalem after it is rebuilt again.... and how many troops will be marching out of Russia and into wherever it is..... funny thing, hardly any two of these characters had the same story. Turns out they'd all been reading differend "prophecy" books. Mostly made to make.. money.

I tossed out Scofield and the whole dispensationalist schtick. READ your bible, bithout the references and notes. Use a solid trusted concordance and LOOK UP he ancient words and what they mean in context. How many today are all fussed over the "mark of the beast"? I heard four different rohpecy guys, from the same organisation, declare four mutually exclusive things to be the long-awayted Mark of the Beast: the covid 19 "vaccination", RFID chips embedded into people as ID, surveillance cameras in large cities tracking and IDing everyone;, Central Bank Digital Currency. One thing was clear: At least THREE of these four are wring, yet they all proclaim themselves "prophets" and to be correct.

Well, for starters, sonce Jesus declared the mark of the best is amontst "all these things" that will take place BEFORE THIS PRESENT GENERATION PASSES AWAY, none of the four mentioned above can possibly be the real mark of the beast.... because they come about 1930 years AFTER the true mark of the best would come. YOU must decide who is more accurate and trustworthy: Jesus or Cyrus? One of those two is true, the other a liar. Follow the One who is True and dump the liar.

Don't call me an heretic.Rather get some study aids and read your own bible.. NOT the scofield version, and teach yourself.

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Why are people attacking Christians who support Israel on this post today?

It has nothing to do with Jeff Childersā€™ topic.

Why are you creating this spirit of controversy at this period of time?

I call you out as a bunch of Pharisees!

You are sure you know what is true and you have no room for God acting in any way you might not agree with.

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Jeff's topic also had to do with presidents going down to defeat over wars. it's a glaring omission that the war that brought Biden down was only Ukraine. WORLDWIDE the opposition to the slaughter In GAZA doesnt go away and has cut seriously into the support of the D Party.

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I had never heard of the Scofield Bible until the John Rich interview with Tucker. I was born and raised a Lutheran and nothing about there being a Rapture was ever taught, only Christā€™s second coming; ā€œand we know not the hourā€. I am in a Bible Study with several, mostly Wesleyan older ladies. One of them wanted to do a study on Dr David Jeremiahā€™s books on the coming rapture. To say I was skeptical is putting it mildly. After a few chapters, Jeremiah relies almost exclusively on Thessalonians 4 and ā€œa gathering upā€, and quotes from many authors who have like theories. I was happy to hear John Richā€™s take.

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Why are people attacking Christians who support Israel on this post today?

It has nothing to do with Jeff Childersā€™ topic.

Why are you creating this spirit of controversy at this period of time?

I call you out as a bunch of Pharisees!

You are sure you know what is true and you have no room for God acting in any way you might not agree with.

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I was very gladden to see this post. And I too noticed that John Rich in a Tucker Carlson interview spoke against the heretical tendencies of Scofield and 'his bible'. This surprised me in a big way. And so it appears that word might be getting on a Christian subversive named Scofield.

So, thank you.

Edit: The edit is that I read your post for a 2nd and 3rd time since I left this comment. Yours is a deep well and the water of life. So double and triple thanks.

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Why are people attacking Christians who support Israel on this post today?

It has nothing to do with Jeff Childersā€™ topic.

Why are you creating this spirit of controversy at this period of time?

I call you out as a bunch of Pharisees!

You are sure you know what is true and you have no room for God acting in any way you might not agree with.

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John Richā€™s comments about Scofield & I believe John Meade were so interesting to me. Causing me to do some historical research on the topic of Rapture of the Church & the timing of it relative to Tribulation years.

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Amen!

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Why are people attacking Christians who support Israel on this post today?

It has nothing to do with Jeff Childersā€™ topic.

Why are you creating this spirit of controversy at this period of time?

I call you out as a bunch of Pharisees!

You are sure you know what is true and you have no room for God acting in any way you might not agree with.

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THIS IS SO INCORRECT! "Jews forfeited the designation as the chosen people when they rejected the promised Messiah, Jesus Christ" God NEVER placed a condition for the Jewish people to be or not be HIS

let's not misrepresent God by saying "God's focus is on Christians" bc we are not privy to the mind of God. Instead let's go back and revisit the scriptures that speak of God's relationship with the Israelites and understand that God has not, will not EVER give up on His people.

Romans 11

I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

2 God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel, saying,

3 ā€œLord, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my lifeā€?

4 But what does the divine response say to him? ā€œI have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.ā€

5 Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.

Romans 11:25-36

25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:

ā€œThe Deliverer will come out of Zion,

And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;

27 For this is My covenant with them,

When I take away their sins.ā€

28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers.

29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

30 For as you were once disobedient to God, yet have now obtained mercy through their disobedience,

31 even so these also have now been disobedient, that through the mercy shown you they also may obtain mercy.

32 For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all.

33 Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out!

34 ā€œFor who has known the mind of the Lord?

Or who has become His counselor?ā€

35 ā€œOr who has first given to Him

And it shall be repaid to him?ā€

36 For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen.

IF God ever breaks His promise to Israel, why would He not break His promise to the rest of us? Perish the though!!!

Romans 11:19-24

19 You will say then, ā€œBranches were broken off that I might be grafted in.ā€ 20 Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear.

21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either.

22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, [e]goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off.

23 And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.

24 For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, who are natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

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Amen and Amen again, Concerned Mom!

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Then why did Jesus chide Saul for persecuting him? Saul was Jewish and by all accounts chosen. Yet here, in Romans, he speaks of a remnant elected by grace. These are the Messianic Jews. Those that believe Jesus was the Christ. Jesus said no one, no one, goes to heaven except through Him. He didnā€™t say, no one but the Jews and those that believe in me. Jesus was the final living sacrifice and he created a new covenant with all the people of the world. He died for everyoneā€™s sins. The veil was torn and we were given direct access to God through Jesus. We can pray to God without intercession of a priest. God promised that the tribe of David would give birth to the savior, the messiah. He promised forgiveness of our sins. I donā€™t recall him promising that the Jewish tribe must be protected by the Gentiles to go to heaven. Please show me where it says that and I may change my mind based on an updated knowledge. By the way, I donā€™t agree with many of the MIC driven wars of the USA, either. War is hell and should be the very last resort.

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Iā€™d like to add Gal 3:28-29 ā€œThere us neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, you are Abrahamā€™s seed, and heirs according to the promise.ā€

For me, this sums it all upā€¦in Gods eyes we are equal, no one above anotherā€¦

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Also, note Galatians 3:7 (and similar themes in Romans): "Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham." -- the "Israel of God" is those who have the faith of Abraham, and not merely Abraham's children according to the flesh.

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To answer your first question, although I don't think it has anything to do with the Jews not being His Chosen anymore... Paul was persecuting Jesus' Bride - His Church...Eph 5:22-33 2 Cor 11:2

Secondly, go back to Romans 11:1 Paul clearly states God has not discarded HIS people... if you are a student of the bible, you'll realize that God's plans include bringing many of his sheepfold together, making us all ONE - His Bride!

And yes, I'm in agreement with most of your response. I just find it not aligned with your initial stmt that "the Jews are not His people anymore"

We need to REMEMBER God's warning to us in Gen 12:3 "I will BLESS those who bless you, and CURSE those who curse you...." I believe this goes hand in hand with Romans 11:1

as far as Gentiles protecting Israel or "I donā€™t recall him promising that the Jewish tribe must be protected by the Gentiles to go to heaven." I will just remind you that in various places throughout the scriptures, we see that those who intended harm towards Israel, got punished, and those who "protected" them were blessed. True this is not a condition for salvation, however I wouldn't want to stand before God and answer to the why I spoke against His Chosen.

Numbers 22 is the account of Balak hiring Balaam to come curse Israel as they passed through his territory. The Angel of the LORD opposes him, "I have come out to stand against you bc your way is perverse before me" v.32 Balaam cannot but speak what God gives him to say: BLESSINGS upon blessings.

Numbers 23:8 "how can I curse whom God has not cursed?"

In contrast, a Gentile widow from Zarephath, houses and feeds Elijah and receives God's blessings. 1 Kings 17:9

There are more instances of both, curses and blessings but I hope this will at least give you some answers and set you on a path where you can find some more.

Lastly, I certainly don't agree with any MIC driven wars either.

Blessings on your searching...

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READ Jesus' words on the mark of tthe beast, in Matthew... WHERE was that thing placed? What does the word we read as "mark" mean in the original?

The covid shot goes in the arm, deltid muscle. NOT right hand/wirt, now forehead. MARK is something permananent., and VERY visible. Even if the one poking your arm is a spastic brute, the hole will heal and be gone in a few days.

Next, continue reading till the end of that conversation.. His guys ask "when will these things BE"??? He said ALL THESE THINGS (everything spoken in that conversation up on the Mount of Olives) WILL TAKE PLACE before THIS generation passes away. (go back now and reread all the things He spoke ofin that cnversation.... WHY do you pinder when this or that will finally happen? Per HIS words it all hppened within about forty years of the date He said these tings. ALL these things, or Jesus is a liar. Don't like that? Take it up with HIM.. I'm only quoting HIS words.

I have heard supposedly legit "prechers" and "prophets" and

pastors" trying to convince me this or that is the Mark of the Beast, or that "the Tribulation" is coming here and then and will be like this, that this or that world leader is The Antichrist" and will come at tis time and do that ting over there. Hah!! Antichrist is not even a person, it is a simple way of determining which "category" George or CHarlie or Pete or Mary are in. Jesus said "you are either WITH Me or AGAINST Me". Bob Dylan put it this way: you mist pick one or the otehr, there ain't NO netural ground"/ John the apostle put it thusly: whoever denies that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is anti christ. Synonyms are against, contra, opposed to, yet some wonks have turned John's adjective into a noun, even a proper noun, then attributed all manner of crazy powers to that constructed creature. "The Antichrist" will destroy the temple". hey fail to consider that's a bit late.. Rome's armies under Vespasian and Titus Imperator destroyed that in 70 AD. Once the temple was gone, they turned and did the same to the entire city of Jerusalem, laying it to utter desolation (just as Jesus had also predicted) where it remained for centuries. Oh, bht "the jews" will rebuild that temple and THAT is the one Mr. AC will destroy..... Nah. I'm sticking with the REAL Jesus not the fictional one drifting about these past two milennia.

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ā€œBe in the world, but donā€™t be of itā€

Iā€™ve been hearing these words a lot past 4 years. Could you please explain what this means exactly?

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We have to be here but we don't have to be grafted into it; be a part of it. To not be swept up with the concerns of this world and the bread and circuses, but to focus on the greatest commandment first and then the others. To love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your mind and all your soul. Next is to love your neighbor as yourself. I, for one, fight my daily hunger for the latest news; to see what's going on in this world. I guess it fuels my endorphins. I would do better to study the Bible and work on being like Jesus. I have a lot of 'work' to do but I'm saved by Jesus' blood and God's grace. I just wish to do better and be more pleasing to God, not to earn favor, but because he's given so much to me.

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I killed Jesus with my rejection and my sins. He chose to pay the price I could not pay and forgave me and reconciled me to himself.

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Welcome, brother! This is the most attention this subject has ever gotten, and I thank you for it.

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Most of what you say I already agree with excepting the idea that Jews want Christians dead as they are "heretics". It could be some really far out Hebrews, the ultra-orthodox for example, may believe this. However, you saying this as a general fact about Jews is just wrong and UN-Christian.

It's a shame you color the huge good part of what you proclaim with such a statement.

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I retract the huge brush statement and will point out that the same is true for Muslims. Only a small contingent of Muslims and Jews believe that Christians are heretics and must be beheaded. I believe they are called Talmudic Jews, and you are correct, I should have been more specific. Thank you for pointing than out. My apologies and I hope youā€™ll find forgiveness for me in your heart.

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I sure can't say I have not said similar things in the throes of a tirade.

This really caught ME off guard as I had never heard this about any Jews. . . Certainly, the Muslims believe this but I would say a lot more than a small percentage. . . the whole Sharia bunch anyway, I would guess.

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I think a lot of observant Jews today think that Christians are "heretics" / "pagan tritheists", but don't have any intention of executing anybody. For the most part the (modern) Jewish attitude seems to be "we have our rules, and what anybody else does is between them and G-d".

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The most accurate Bible is the Book of Yahweh from the House of Yahweh.

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Fables well told are often believed.

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It was absolutely incredible. Just loved it!

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I watch it all (over one hour) and Rich should have stopped talking after recounting the astonishing way God gave him the Revelation song....

Rich's understanding of the Rapture is sorely lacking. He confuses it with Jesus' Second Coming. These are 2 separate events...

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I thought the saints were lifted away the moment that Jesus returns. Where does the Bible state otherwise. Of course, know that I donā€™t believe in millennialism or dispensationalism. I believe Christā€™s second coming and the final judgment occur simultaneously and there is no second chance. Thatā€™s what I understand from my Bible studies. As John Rich said, we will not avoid the hardships and sufferings predicted in the Bible. I guess like Job, we will suffer and our faith will be tested.

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Firstly, I must tell you there are 2 separate events that will happen. I will try to explain as best I can in this post. The Rapture or Snatching Away happens and Jesus does not come to Earth... It happens in the air ...

In Matthew 24 where Jesus' disciples ask Him about the End to come v.3, Jesus reply takes up several chapters and it appears that some things correspond to the Tribulation like v.15 and others to the Rapture v.31

1 Cor 15:51 Paul says, "Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changedā€”

52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed."

Again, in 1 Thes 4:13-17 13 "Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lordā€™s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever."

Keep in mind Matthew 24:36 - NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR THE HOUR!

And John 14:3 tells us He has gone to prepare a place for us, so that we may be where He is, Heaven! (This is part of another teaching that says Jesus prepares a place for us, just as in a Jewish betrothal, the son goes to prepare an abode for his bride and comes back for her when His father gives the OK)

ALL OF THIS is not what we all recognize as Second Coming.

2nd Coming is when Jesus comes as King and Judge to parse out judgement to the nations. Revelation 19:11-18 "I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. ā€œHe will rule them with an iron scepter.ā€[a] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:

KING of KINGS and LORD of LORDS

17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, ā€œCome, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.ā€

I TOTALLY DISAGREE with Rich's interpretation that we'll be here for the Tribulation. God is not going to beat up His Bride before taking her away.

1 Thes 1:10 tells us "...Jesus who delivers us FROM the wrath to come"

and again 1 Thes 5:9 "For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ"

I'm not sure what you mean by "millennialism or any other ism, but let me point you to Revelation 20:4-5 and see what you find.

Blessing on your searching

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I don't know where it says in the Bible a third coming. Rapture (second) Revelation/Judgement (third). I only know of a second coming where the saved are taken up and judgement occurs; same event. Going from memory I remember of Jesus speaking of the moans and groans, like a woman in labor, and of wars and rumors of wars before he returns. I would define that as tribulation. Jesus says in Mark 13:24, paraphrased, after that tribulation the stars will be falling from heaven and then they will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory, sending his angels to the four corners of the earth to gather his elect.

Sure sounds to me like the elect were on earth for tribulation.

Noah's preaching and building of the ark were clear warnings that God was preparing to judge wickedness by sending a flood. Still, people were unprepared. So it will be at the end of time.

Anyone that professes that there will be a period of time after the rapture to accept Jesus may, themselves, be open for a rude awakening. I prefer to err on the side of safety and see no benefit to leading people to believe they MAY have a second chance.

Choose Jesus and thereby choose life. All other choices are shifting sand.

My current verse of memorization: 1C1:8-For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

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I believe the bible makes NO mention of a "second" or even "third" coming. The labels have been added by men. But as I pointed you to Matthew 24 where Jesus is having a long conversation with His disciples there, He never labels anything "My Second or Third Return" but gives us lots of info to put a timeline together. An avid christian would do well to study, study, study and then, study some more... I pointed out lots of biblical references and pray you also do your homework to grow in the Lord. You are correct in stating that we should Jesus now and not wait for later. I'm whole heartedly there too! However, I did not write the time line and I'm not privy to the grace that God would bestow on others, whether before or after the Rapture. BTW, I do ascribe to a pre Trib Rapture, and find that I am by NO means alone in that camp. Thousands of us hold to that posture after many years, months, days, hours of study and searching.

I leave you with this as my last on this (as I prefer not to argue) Acts 18: 24-25 24 "Meanwhile a Jew named Apollos, a native of Alexandria, came to Ephesus. He was a learned man, with a thorough knowledge of the Scriptures. 25 He had been instructed in the way of the Lord, and he spoke with great fervor[a] and taught about Jesus accurately, though he knew only the baptism of John. 26 He began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they invited him to their home and explained to him the way of God more adequately. "

So even though we might be fervent for the Lord, we might not have the entire knowledge... I encourage you to keep learning with an open mind.

Blessings -

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Ah, the passive aggressive move and the projection of your position onto me.

Back to Christianā€™s being the only ones that go to heaven. You quote Romans. In it Paul states ā€œ 23 And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. ā€ here he speaks of the non-messianic Jews. They must believe in Christ.

But what about the Jews before Christ? Paul addressed those in the passages you quoted. They are given grace through faith of the coming messiah and adherence to the covenant God made with Moses.

God makes his mind known through scripture and expects us, with the Holy Spirit living in our hearts, to be discerning and support our beliefs with an educated and studied reading of the Bible and appropriate scholars. I will take the studies pre-18th century and the conclusions thereof over the ā€œconsensus Christianityā€ of today.

Millennialism is 19th Century heresy taught as truth today! If you can continue this conversation and support your position without ad hominem passive aggressive attacks, Iā€™m willing to learn, but it must be based on classical understanding, not the current crop of ā€˜theologiansā€™ that are swayed by the culture wars of today or revise scriptural understanding to fit their narrative. Even the Southern Baptist Convention is under attack by LGBTQCVZWT++++ activists.

Much like vaccine ideology, but with a greater, eternal consequence, an incorrect understanding of Christianity will not only impact you but the sheep around you, and in the Bible Jesus spoke about the result of leading his children astray. You know it. The millstone analogy.

May you be blessed and continue to seek the truth. Godā€™s mind is known through the Bible. Pray for me and Iā€™ll pray for you and if Iā€™m wrong, may God please forgive me and lead me to the truth. I pray the same for you. Amen

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John Rich needs to stick to music unless he wants to get his theological facts straight. At least Tucker admits to being clueless.

https://evangelicaldarkweb.org/2024/07/19/john-rich-tucker-carlson-vs-pretribulation-rapture/

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Wow! John Rich, American Country Music star, turned theologian overnight, goes on Tucker to promote his new song and proclaims that Evangelical Christians are deluded and dangerous.

Tucker is confused to say the least.

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Completely agree with you. Once you have heard Pastor Jack Hibbs teach on the Rapture and Second Coming, one cannot be fooled by the "Johnny come-lately Rich"

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Ah, Jack Hibbs. That statement explains a lot. Follow Jesus not preachers.

Dispensationalism - The church and the Jewish people make up two distinctly different dispensations with different futures. Developed in the 1830's.

I have looked at both sides of the coin, dispensationalism versus the belief I hold to be true: The second advent of Christ, the general resurrection, the final judgment, and the end of the world are immediately united and each follows the other without an interval of time.

Millennialism was debunked in the 17th century, yet it still rears its ugly head. I do not wonder why. It is a spiritual war being waged. The rest is bread and circuses.

Is the end near? I don't care other than to warn the un-Christian, and the "think I am Christian enough" that time MAY be running out.

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John Rich: American Country Musician, newly turned amateur theologian.

So, he appeared on Tucker Carson to talk about a song God directly instructed him to write called Revelation. I have no doubt this happened. But I think John stepped a bit out of the bounds of that calling to go on Tucker Carlson and claim a special understanding of theology, which apparently someone he bumped into in a proud vulnerable moment was happy to teach him. And it gave him some good talking points for the Tucker interview, although he admitted he wrestled with the idea of presenting them. That might have been the Holy Spirit trying to warn him that he might not be up to the task.

If this had been a theological debate, with say Jack Hibbs providing a counter argument to what John Rich was saying, it would certainly have been a better interview.

As it was, John thought he had discovered some scriptures never before read by Evangelicals.

Having been raised with that doctrine, I assure him he did not.

These Christians are very familiar with 2Thessalonians 2, Matthew 24, the book of Daniel, Ezekiel and all the Old Testament prophecies. They believe the second coming of Jesus is a separate event from the ā€˜in gatheringā€™ of Thessalonians 2, which precedes it.

Speaking of Matthew 24; to Jesus all time is present simultaneously. He switches back and forth from present impending disaster to future. For example,

Matthew 24:15-17 ā€œ

Therefore when you see the ā€˜abomination of desolation,ā€™spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy placeā€ (whoever reads, let him understand),

ā€œthen let those who are in JUDEA flee to the mountains.

ā€œLet him who is ON THE HOUSETOP not go down to take anything out of his house.

Jesus is obviously speaking of those in Judea in that era, who will have to flee the attack of the Romans.

This is complex and complicated stuff, needing a lot of study. WHICH, John Rich has not had.

John seemed to say that the delusion sent by God was for Evangelicals, not unbelievers who refuse to repent. That was unfortunate. But I learned there is fear of Evangelicals. And I hope to come to understand that more fully.

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And poor Tucker, if he really is being bombarded almost daily at his home (one imagines a multi million dollar mansion) by weird persons using numerology to tell him when Jesus is returning (Jehovah Witnesses?) he needs better security!

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Great point! Carlson made 40 million a year working for Fox. He charges on his website if you want to see his interviewsšŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļøI suppose he doesnā€™t have enoughšŸ™„

A lot of people get lost with so much moneyā€¦IMHO. I have known so many wealthy people and now they are gone via the jab. When you meet the Lord, you only take what you gave! And the two men that diedā€¦they were bitter with God and blamed him for everything bad for the path they took.

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What an awesome interview. Two men talking about Jesus!!! Powerful!!

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John Rich talking about what he knows NOT, is dangerous... Poor Tucker being misled...

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Yeah, that was a fantastic interview

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It was fantastic! Need to listen again.

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That verse so describes the covid era! Good golly.

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Thank you! I've been trying to find a scripture to hold on to during this insanity of USA! And covid delusion. Thank you so much for this scripture from our Holy Fathers love book! Keeping me centered on Him! Thank you, Kelli, dear one! šŸ¦‹šŸ™šŸ™ŒšŸ‘‘šŸ™Œ

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Love book!

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Wow that is spot on for sure!

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Thanks Kelly.

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Amen!

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Amen!! I pray for my granddaughters whose stepmother filled their minds with LGBTQ and liberal pro Palestinian thinking. She influenced them to the point, my daughter and I are estranged. They look at us as if we are strangers and have refused to talk to us for 4 years now. Satan is prowling, devouring innocent minds, conditioned by others...

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Correction - itā€™s the writings of John Darby.

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Projection. It's always about projection with them. Accuse the other side of doing what you are doing, and repeat it until the sheepies believe it too

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Iā€™ve screamed this for years!!

Wanna know what ā€œtheyā€ are up to?

Watch what they accuse us of doing!

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TRUTH

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Agreed. It was summarized for me many years ago:

"Deny everything, admit nothing and make counter accusations!"

I would not doubt this statement is imbedded in the DNC Manifesto.

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Yeppers

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you might enjoy this analysis of how propaganda works. its quite amusing

https://conspiracysynergy.com/EP5.html

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exactly!

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That is so unethical and immoral.

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Baaaaaā€™d Baaaaaaaaā€™d šŸ‘šŸ

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Notice that they canā€™t say two words without injecting the F word. Why is that?

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Right??? My mom used to say ā€œprofanity makes ignorance audibleā€ and while I can understand (though generally donā€™t indulge in it myself) the well-placed curse word for emphasis and emotion from time to time, I honestly get really annoyed at listening to and reading strings of several sentences that contain one or more of them. It actually becomes difficult to follow what they are trying to express and so I tune out šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

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Agreed. Intellectually, curse words are just not necessary. The "f" word is particularly offensive to many of us. My advice to those who insist on using it: pick up a thesaurus please and be more creative.

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I was at a garage sale recently talking old books with the owner. She went and got one of her prized possessions: a dictionary from the early 1800s. It was MASSIVE, with teeny tiny type. We proceeded to discuss the degradation of our language to just a few thousand words, the most common one being the f-bomb.

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My grandfather had one of those old massive Webster dictionaries! The type was so small, but we loved going through it as kids. He displayed it on a pedestal in the foyer when you entered his home!

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It can also be helpful in Boggle disputes! I have one myself.

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I also can't stand how people use emojis in place of an actual sentence. Use your WORDS people! Let's not devolve into communicating with pictures.

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To be fair, emojis can convey a feeling of the kind you have in face to face conversation. Sometimes just an expression is all that's needed.

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I use a laptop so no emoji's for me. Texting my grandkids I use them.

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I agree with AngelaK, I use them to transmit a tone, because itā€™s not always clear from just the words whether something is sarcasm or not, for example. But I only do that with conversational style writing. It makes it more animated and expressive when texting or posting comments, in my opinion.

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NB I loved that line, "pick up a thesaurus" lol, they don't know what that is.

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Ya wanna bet? I own several. They're some of my favorite things.

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Exactly how I feel! People who crow about ā€œswearing like a sailorā€ seem to me to be just perpetual adolescents trying to prove what ā€œrebelsā€ they are šŸ™„šŸ™„šŸ™„

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The reasons sailors' swearing was so impressive is that, traditionally, it was done in ten different languages, for fifteen minutes straight without repeating a single curse. Something of a lost art these days...

(/j, somewhat)

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People who curse are already more creative than you who don't. As well as having higher IQs than you.

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Prove it! šŸ˜†

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I would have cussed but I Kept drawing blankity blanks________šŸ˜‰šŸ¤£

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I bet Kamala swears a lot. She is so very very in-tell-a-gent. I wanna be smart like her. Gonna throw out a few f-bombs right now! šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£

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I think the offensiveness is precisely the point. George Carlin had great routines about this. He understood that humans interact using signals, and words are the main signals we use. The science that studies this is known as semiotics.

The childhood rhyme about "sticks and stones" represents this concept. Words only hurt when we allow them to - usually because we're trained to interpret them that way. In daily life, we use symbols so constantly that we think that's all that exists. We confuse the map with the actual territory.

But if you can go to a quiet place and embrace the silence, you can hear all the words running around in your head. There are disciplines that teach a person how to observe and to quiet that internal stream, like meditation. I've been able to experience this a few times in my life, that utter peace that comes from silencing all internal thoughts and symbols - it's incredible when you achieve it, and very difficult for the average person to hold in that state for long.

My experience coming out of that state brought an understanding that our modern human world is an extremely-complex, overlapping collection of games - and symbols are the medium in which those games are played.

I know why the yogi laughs. To one who can slip into that state at will, the world of men looks like a huge maze full of rats chasing one another without purpose. The laugh is one of sadness mixed with irony and empathy.

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And despite all that cosmic stuff, I agree that casual profanity does make a person sound ignorant and imprecise. As a longtime casual swearer, I'm attempting to mend my ways in the latter part of my life.

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I worked as a florist many years. Profanity is required.

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Perhaps some exposition would be helpful. What about floristry (floristhood, floristopoly?) causes so much consternation? Can't you just stop and smell the flowers?

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I'd imagine you could start with all those #$%^ rose thorns... And the demanding customers wanting the impossible at the very last minute?

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Other than the thorns I imagine most other aspects are common to most customer-facing industries. I would think it generally smells better than most work environments. I can think of some phrases that might help, "what the fuchsia's going on here?!" For example.

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Haha... I've had many jobs where it was, if not required, at least appropriate to the task at hand...

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You make some good points. Oh I agree, the point is the offensiveness but tbh to me, especially when used regularly, it just comes across as puerile attempts at provocation and lack of self control. Sorry to those offended by my reaction šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø Iā€™ve just always felt that way and I havenā€™t seen anything in my lifetime so far to prove the contrary.

And yes, words are offensive because as a society weā€™ve decided they are offensive and carry certain meanings and connotations. But when people despite being completely aware of those meanings and connotations, deliberately use such language, they are imo either trying to show theyā€™re ā€œrebelsā€, attempting to be gratuitously aggressive and provocative, or just donā€™t have the self control to stop themselves. None of which are qualities I personally would be proud of, but of course not everyone has to agree with me šŸ™‚

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I agree with you. I fell into a habit of cursing early in life - my parents weren't good examples of linguistic precision, although my maternal grandparents were. Like any habit, the more often it's repeated, the easier it is to become lazy about it. The "cultural appropriation" of "street talk" that arose with gangsta rap in the 90's degraded our language and our culture. Suddenly trashy was "cool", and we haven't shaken this yet. Instead, modern culture has internalized it, which I think is tragic and degrading.

It was much more fun when George Carlin was investigating our language habits like a scientist. At least he made us laugh at ourselves and be a little less uptight.

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Now the big booty and the tramp stamp is worn with some misplaced pride (like other "pride" examples I can think of) and hood slang is considered "hip". I look forward to the day when this crap is considered passe.

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Oh I agree, the sociolinguistic aspects of cursing are indeed interesting!

And I also agree that our society has bought into the ā€œtrashy is coolā€ notion for a while now šŸ˜• Even shows like Jerry Springer make me cringe. Itā€™s really showcasing the lowest level of behavior, and even though people make fun of it, the fact that it gets this much attention has somehow also served to validate it. I think our society has become coarser and cruder over the years and itā€™s not been beneficial. While I would also agree that some of the niceties of the past may have had some ā€œfakenessā€ attached to them, and not all parts of society were treated nicely in the past either, I donā€™t know why there has been this rush and this trend to being as rude and crude as possible. We couldā€™ve been trying to strive for authenticity and yet keep the decorum. Theyā€™re not mutually exclusive. It seems like there should be a happy medium somewhere.

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When I worked for the DOD I got tired of soldiers' casual cursing in my office, so I put a sign on my desk (along with a curse jar): "Profanity is the effort of a weak mind to express itself forcefully."

I encountered a "weak mind" in a parking lot, who was seriously gumming up the flow of traffic. After he finishing cursing me out for the problem HE caused, I replied: "If you were to remove all the expletives from your tirade, it would render you completely inarticulate." He stared at me and said, "Whaaat?" I said, "Exactly!" and drove off.

Mrs. "the Knife"

P.S. I did have an engineer throw $5 in the curse jar and ask, "How much will that buy me?"

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Love his sense of humor! šŸ˜†

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Just like an engineer to pre-pay: always seeking maximum efficiency!

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I think he was going for a bulk discount!

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When my kids were little and finding the power of curse words I used to tell them my secret curse words: purple gallinuel or troglodyte, both are birds, the first is a coot and the second is a wren. I still amuse my grown son when we talk about that. Although I think I just revealed how weird I am.

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You revealed how creative you are.

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I love unusual words!

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Mine died laughing when one time I yelled, "Poodle Farts". That was 30-40 years ago and they still laugh about it.

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I used "bat's breath" in grade school and junior high. Don't know where I picked it up.

Mrs. "the Knife"

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My husband uses ā€œpiggy-bratā€! šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø

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I had never heard that phrase before, ā€œprofanity makes ignorance audibleā€, but I have often had the exact same reaction. And thought along the same lines with my adult children who use it interchangeably in every other sentence.

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My kids, especially my younger son, are not big fans of curse words, fortunately. My older one uses them sparingly and usually more for punning/joking purposes than anything else. My younger one will not use any at all, although that may change once he gets into his later teens. Iā€™m glad we see eye to eye on this overall but there is definitely a very strong cultural push towards casual use of profanity.

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My kids donā€™t use any profanity around me. I think even though theyā€™re adults, that theyā€™re still afraid of getting their mouth washed out with soap šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£ BTW I never did that to them.

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Same! Mine are very respectful and my one son that has said a few words, actually more alludes to them than comes out and says them. Plus theyā€™re not even English words šŸ˜†

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We used tabasco sauce when the soap failed.

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My kids would love Tabasco sauce šŸ˜†šŸ¤£ Iā€™d have to use fish oil or something instead šŸ˜†

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My son uses it around friends and around me because he knows it jerks my chain. Heā€™s a successful business exec. When I have listened to him take business calls, it never enters into conversations. That would not be professional.

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Yes I feel like a lot of times it can be provocation.

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I like to use the edited for T.V. profanity strings. "I'm sick to death of all these monkey-fighting snakes on this monday-to-friday plane" is a favorite.

Another good one is from Die Hard 2, "Yippee-kiyay mister falcon!"

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I love those, hilarious!! šŸ¤£šŸ˜†

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SciFi has also increased my vocabulary with words like, "Smeg!" (Red Dwarf), and "felgercarb(sp?)" (Original Battlestar Galactica).

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Love that saying from your mother. I'll have to remember that one. Curse words are a default used by people who are caught up in emotions rather than stopping to think intelligently for the word that will properly describe a situation. Curse words are feelings rather than descriptions. That's probably why the left more frequently defaults to curse words.

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My mother was an amazing woman and I miss her so much šŸ’”

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I miss my mom as well.

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Yes, itā€™s something Iā€™ve noticed, and probably will never get over the loss of my mother. Itā€™s been 10 years and I still cry.

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Me too. Some of us were blessed with such good mothers.

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Mine drug us 4 kids to church every Sunday which was a 36 mile round trip. 2 are believers and 2 are not. She was a saint in my eyes. My dad was an unbeliever.

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And very well said about the words being feelings rather than descriptions!

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Can't please all of the people all of the time.

I was a research librarian for 25 years, hold an advanced degree, regularly hit 120 books read per year (i.e. I'm not incapable of expressing myself otherwise) and enjoy swearing occasionally (in the right company). I think it's because it's so unexpected that it can be used with humor.

As St. Teresa said, "Lord, save us from gloomy saints."

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Well I donā€™t generally like foul language but used judiciously, it can be indeed be effective or even amusing on occasion. I guess my objection is more to the constant peppering and casual usage of those words in all kinds of situations. And your point about being in the right company is well taken also. But so many people donā€™t even take that into account.

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My dad used to say ā€œProfanity is a sign of ignoranceā€. There is a lot of wisdom from that generation worth listening to!

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My dad used to say of those speaking vulgarities, "They've got something in their mouth that I wouldn't hold in the palm of my hand." :o)

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My mother as well, although less neatly put.

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I am so hoping my elderly mother doesn't catch any of the current shows on cable TV. She would fall off her walker.

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Too bad for you that it's been shown, time and again, that the people who curse have higher IQs than those of you who do not.

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Oh I just knew someone was going to say that. I keep hearing people talk about these ā€œstudiesā€, I guess the ā€œexpertsā€ have spoken again šŸ™„ Who did them, how were they carried out and what was the agenda? And if they supposedly have a higher IQ, then why are they hiding it by using the same curse words repetitively instead of a richer and more varied way of expressing themselves?

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For some cursing is just part of their culture. You won't find it as much in the south as the north (from my experience) and you should see less cursing in those who are following Christ as our language should bring glory to God.

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My dear dad (career military man) came very close to taking the Lordā€™s name in vain one time, within my hearing. Back when land lines were the only phones in existence, I had to wake him to tell him he had a call. ā€œGodā€¦bless my happy homeā€ was his response. I giggle about it now.

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Well I never knew professional level cursing until I moved to LA. Those people canā€™t seem to speak a sentence without a casual string of ugly words. Glad I moved from there.

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Teenagers are particularly apt at this as well. They think using curse words make them sound like adults.

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Well, it shows that we can read studies, understand them, and are able to apply them to the real world, instead of just being judgmental prigs.

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Which studies pray tell? I can read studies too šŸ™„ You sound pretty judgmental yourself šŸ˜‘

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See you're not even smart enough to know how to look things up online. šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£

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Oh of course I can, but YOU are the one who brought up ā€œstudiesā€, so I assumed (apparently wrongly) that you actually had some in mind. Why should I have to expend my time and energy to prove a point *you* were attempting to make?

Also the logic of ā€œit shows we can read studies, understand them and apply themā€ (how does it actually show that?) and the implication that people who donā€™t use foul language canā€™t read, understand and use studies is quite the reach šŸ˜†

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Running, you are talking to what sounds like an indoctrinated 12 year old - who when faced with a challenge to produce the data - instead throws an ad hominem to deflect.

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Iā€™ve just been beat senseless here, because I curse. And Iā€™ve always considered myself rather intelligent. So to all of you that will virtue signal just like a good progressive over curse words, well @#*&$=(*$! Because to me,thatā€™s what all yā€™all sound like. Tut tut.

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Iā€™m not virtue signaling. Just expressing an opinion šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø Which apparently has ruffled a few feathers here. If *you* enjoy using foul language, what do you care what *I* or anyone else might think about it? I just think it sounds crass and crude and I donā€™t enjoy hearing it. Iā€™m not saying people who curse can't be intelligent but to me it doesnā€™t *sound* intelligent. Thatā€™s all. And as to the complaint about being judgmental, every single human being is judgmental. Itā€™s our nature. You just donā€™t agree with my judgment and thatā€™s okay. You donā€™t have to agree.

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And self righteousness is so attractive, all.

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Alan, itā€™s not virtue signaling. Itā€™s just that who wants to wallow in poo? Itā€™s not pleasant or uplifting. Gutter talk reflects poorly on those who use it.

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For me, my reaction to swearing (especially when itā€™s every other sentence) is more along the lines of me saying (for example) I donā€™t think rainbow colored hair is attractive. I am not going to go up to someone and tell them I hate their hair and think it looks ugly. Itā€™s none of my business. They get to choose how to wear their hair. But I will certainly think what I want about it, and Iā€™m allowed an opinion on it. I donā€™t like cursing because it sounds like verbal aggression to me. Other people donā€™t care and itā€™s like any other word for them. But thatā€™s not how I feel and I have a right to my opinion too.

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My husband and I were just watching a very brief video that juxtaposed Kamala against Julia Louis Dreyfuss in ā€œVeepā€. It was funny and Iā€™d never watched the show so I thought Iā€™d go watch a longer video of show clips. Nope. The f-word was her whole vocabulary. From what Iā€™ve read and heard, DC and political circles are really like that šŸ¤® I donā€™t get offended by an occasional apt swear (though I donā€™t choose to use foul language) but when people canā€™t speak without this sewage spewingā€¦well, the Bible says that ā€œout of the fullness of the heart the mouth speaks.ā€

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Ephesians 4: 29 Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.

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And Jesus reproved the Pharisees who were criticizing the disciples who had not washed hands before eating, "It's not what a man puts into his mouth which defiles him, but what comes out of his mouth".

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ā€œā€¦but no human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.ā€

ā€­ā€­Jamesā€¬ ā€­3ā€¬:ā€­8ā€¬ ā€­ESVā€¬ā€¬

https://bible.com/bible/59/jas.3.8.ESV

We may not use profanity but certainly we use our tongue for bad as well

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Watch Mommyrn88 on instaā€”she does a killer KH cackle and ā€œunburdenedā€¦ā€ that shatters me.

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There is a positive correlation between the amount of foul language use and level of ignorance, and a negative correlation with intelligence.

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Yes!

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I suspect it's more a negative correlation with having read literature, or commentary of high order. Noticing evidence of this in people writing weather for whether, slight for sleight (several times just last week), rye for wry, desserts for deserts (just now and last week).

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My wife and I are constantly cracking up at the people on Nextdoor mentioning dogs "wondering" around their neighborhood. It's another contender for my next band name: The Wondering Dogs.

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Well, dogs are pretty curious, arenā€™t they? They go about sniffing at little girlsā€™ crotches and at piles of other dogsā€™ feces?

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Haha... Yes, I suppose so.

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Sorry, many studies have shown the exact opposite. People who swear are smarter, higher IQs, than you who don't.

However, you do show your narcissistic tendencies of thinking you're better than everyone else, as well as your lower IQ.

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Confucius says: Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."

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I have personal experience with this but it's just a one-person study. On occasion when I have done something (hit my head on the same overhanging shelf for the 2nd or 3rd time, for instance) and feel it is an ignorant and unintelligent thing to do, I have found myself bursting forth with a string of invective ala Linda Blair in "The Exorcist". This response then makes me feel even more ignorant and unintelligent. I reported my study in the "Journal of Bullshit" some years ago.

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šŸ˜… nicely done

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Wow. Higher IQ - maybe a bit. Surely doesn't correlate with classiness. I'm happy to forego a few IQ points if need be.

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Interesting response. Could you , for the satisfaction of many of us, Supply at least one or two of the studies that have proven your theory and perhaps give a link as well. Evidently, in order to prove my IQ level, I need to add a lot of swear words to my vocabulary.

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Thank you for supplying the study and the link to it which I found absolutely hilarious to be frank. First of all the study came apparently from the year 2017 and seemed only to be written about and something called the science alert. Which man did be a very reputable magazine, I admit I probably wouldn't Buy it. But what I found absolutely hilarious is that there is something called influence test. Evidently it proves you're smart if in one minute you can come up with a lot of swear words. If I had only known that when I was in college struggling to get a high enough grade to pass the class. Now it seems, that I could have let out a whole string of swear words and proven to my teacher that I should really get an a.

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Just saying it so does not make it so. And again Studies! God deliver us from Studies and Safe and Effective! And the like! And so very often so very wicked!

By observation many, many gutter mouths have severely truncated vocabularies. And I would think that there is an inverse correlation between expanse in vocabulary and truncation in expression as a general observation.

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Please post a study for us. I'm interested.

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One thing Iā€™m proud of about my adult children. They donā€™t often swear (never use profanity in their parentā€™s presence), and most importantly, do not take Godā€™s name in vain.

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I cringe whenever I hear 'Jesus' in vain, on television.

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Whenever I hear anyone take Godā€™s name in vain, I quickly pray ā€œBless Godā€™s Holy Nameā€ in reparation.

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Low IQ language

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The foolish and wicked practice of profane cursing and swearing is a vice so mean and low that every person of sense and character detests and despises it.

George Washington

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I'd always heard (I forget where) that Washington himself was known to be quite the swearer.. Is that inaccurate?

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Cussing is the language of hell

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That caught my attention as well

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Is the "F" word considered a verb...as it shows action?

I'm asking for a friend.....Maybe....

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They use it as all word types: verb, noun, adjective, adverb...

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Consult George Carlin.

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uneducated and only fluent in cussing

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All I can say isā€¦too many (formative) years on a fire crew imprinted rude, crude language into my brain. Have gotten much better about ā€œusing clean wordsā€ but every once in awhileā€¦and I have to laugh, as a Big Lebowski fanā€¦when The Dude is asked by The Stranger why he has to cuss so muchā€¦he replies, ā€œWTF are you talking about?ā€ And there you have it. Itā€™s unconscious and a reflex response. ā˜ŗļøā˜ŗļøā˜ŗļø

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I had the same experience on a Forest Service Hot Shot crew for 3 summers.

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God bless you for your service! My journey began with 4 yrs of USFS brush-disposal/Type II district crew up in WA; then one season on a NPS hotshot crew in Yellowstone NP (rained all summerā€¦booooooā€¦!!) and then engine crews on the Shasta-T and lastly Fire Prevention on the Plumas NF. Iā€™d grown out of my rude/crude by then but always had it at the ready when called for!! Canā€™t let the fellers intimidate us females, right? LOL

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They can seldom make a movie anymore without the studied script being doubled by the F word.

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Which is why we don't go to the movies anymore.

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My mother used to say that use of profanity was a sign of a limited vocabulary.

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It seems many people use it as an adjective. Hearing it is kind of like nails on a chalkboard.

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In the 1990 Steven Spielberg movie, Joe Versus The Volcano, Patricia (the character played by Meg Ryan) utters these words to Joe Banks (Tom Hank's character):

"My father says that almost the whole world is asleep - everybody you know, everybody you see, everybody you talk to. He says that only a few people are awake, and they live in a state of constant, total amazement."

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and in today's world, those most asleep like to call themselves WOKE!

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the very definition of irony right there

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another example of saying evil is good and good is evil. It mushroomed after the bioweapon was released, and they started changing definitions everywhere.

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One of my all-time favorite movies! The great Lloyd Bridges as her father. Meg Ryan before she ruined her face with surgery.

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That's such an underrated film!

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Agreed. Gonna watch it again (2nd time) this weekend.

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to those who say we will starve under Trump, tell them to eat bugs. Unlimited supply, and free to harvest

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Hakuna Matata

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Heard it all before when Reagan was running for POTUS. A very polite Democrat friend told me that if Reagan is elected there will be a race war. I didn't even respond. And you know, I bet he never learned from that either.

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They will definitely be pushing the race war, and likely the domestic terrorist angle too. You know, if democrats were not also beholden to the same criminal banking cartel, they could easily go after Trump for announcing he may nominate literal permanent state scum bags like Jamie Dimon and Larry Find to high positions. And then of course there is Peter Thiel, who has close ties and financially supported Clearview AI, who brags about using their facial recognition to lock up J6 protesters.

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Your real name must be ā€˜Miseryā€™. You never try to build anything up, just tear it down. I have never seen you make anything but negative comments, hoping to make others a miserable as you. Since you love misery so much, why not join the RAT party? They would LOVE you!

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Misery does love company.

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What is like to ignore the blatant reality around you? Trump is talking about appointing the literal swamp. People point it out and you go on the attack. It's very sad.

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Peter Thiel is supposedly tied with JD Vance. That made me perk up. If this is true, we may all be suckers here...

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they always say what a wonderful president he is/was but never give an example of what he has done that was so good for the country (hint there isn't any) - just the bottom line propaganda

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Oh yes, the national news was in Raleigh last night because our infamous governor Roy Cooper has made the short list of VP candidates and many on conservative news think he will indeed by the choice. They asked several people on the streets if they'd support Kamala and the universal response was: I'm voting for whomever is on the democrat side of the ticket. Idiots. BTW, I indeed hop ol' Roy is the VP pick because it will be political suicide and then I NEVER have to hear about him again!

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Not so sure about that pick just because they NEED name recognition this late in the game to pretend there are enough people voting for them so they can pull off their cheat. Whoever they PLACE will be who will be their next puppet. Cackling cameltoe will be out as soon as they think theyā€™re safe. But she is 100% controllable so maybe they keep her if they can cheat her into the spot. Gonna get spicy!

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I don't think anyone with name recognition who has a shot at the presidency in 2028 will ever agree to go on the ticket with her. No one in their right mind anyway. Everyone hates her even the democrats!

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True! And it has to be someone without a brain and willing to be controlled. So thereā€™s that.

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Wellā€¦ā€¦.thats the entire party, right there.

They are all under a great delusion and I doubt any one of them have 2 brain cells to rub together. Theyā€™re ALL controlled by demons soā€¦ā€¦ā€¦.pick one!! Any one demonicRAT would be under the same spell.

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But the evil oligarch Soros ' son posed with her, praising her. Ugh. Get a crucifix in his face someone! https://x.com/AlexanderSoros/status/1815108202499027417Seriously.

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Cooper- done his best to ruin NC.

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Same with Wretchen Whitless of MI. Please take her out of here!!

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I'm thinking the perfect ticket is Kamala with VP as Whitmer. They'll never win but it will end their political career which is a win, win for everyone, left and right.

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I should think any politician under the age of 60 would want to sit this one out.

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Does anyone have a compilation of the ā€œ28 liesā€ Trump told at the debate???

Thatā€™s the only defense Iā€™ve heard so far, but I donā€™t have many Biden/Harris ppl who say anything to me anymore & I donā€™t use other social media. Iā€™d like to know what they are, seriously!

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They probably donā€™t actually have a compilation because itā€™s made up like pretty much everything else they say šŸ˜‘

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I challenged an old (but apparently witless) friend who was repeating this line on FB to re-watch the debate with a pad and a pencil and write down these "28 lies" - because I watched it and, aside from Trump's exaggerations, everything he said jibed with what I know to be true - and I didn't arrive at these truths by listening to him, but through a variety of other sources. He seemed on the right track, rhetorically.

My friend never got back to me with the list, BTW...

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speaking of lies, has anyone counted the lies in Joe's announcement yesterday?

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And the administration continues to lie!

Now they are undermining his brother Frank as an alcoholic because he said that Joe dropped out due to his health!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-family-offer-conflicting-accounts-bidens-health-influenced-decision-drop-out

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I saw a perfect post from a liberal that said it all (I reposted jn CnC fb grp) ā€” it is 1000% about identity politics. They are excited about a black female president and have the nerve to say yes ā€œbring light to darknessā€. And they are literally delusional about Bidens ā€œaccomplishmentsā€ as if heā€™s done good things for our country. Its shocking how delusional they are.

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Most people cannot admit they were wrong so they just double down on their views or simply ignore it. Itā€™s the same thing weā€™ve seen with covid.

Admitting you are wrong is one of the best traits a person can have.

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Letā€™s pray it is a ā€˜smallā€™ percentage of the population.

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The captured MSM is the Transnationals main weapon.

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Yeah I subscribe to one and really the vitriol. They hate Manchin too and say WaPo and NYT are bad to read cause they are so pro Trump. LOL

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I call it Anal Encephalitis- having your head up your arse

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"The Power" may just "allow" Trump to win and dump the whole Biden/DEMS created mess onto Trump.

Very worried about that.

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I think "the power" has no problem with Trump in office if he carries through in appointing swamp creatures Larry Fink and Jamie Dimon.

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I talked with my mom last night, got hung up on lol, told her see I told you that he had dementia from the get-go, then she said some rants against Trump then had the audacity to try to tell me that the shooting was staged but I told her nope, not going to hear that, which she promptly hung up on me, go me! She WAS a republican, but several cv jabs later she is drinking their Kool-Aid and definitely has TDS, all I can do is pray for her.

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I'm sorry this driving a wedge between you and your mom and that's not funny at all but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't getting a pretty good kick out of the left's sudden penchant for conspiracy theories like the Trump shooting having been staged. šŸ˜¬

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as soon as it happened I told may wife that were it not for the dead and injured the left would call it "fake news". Well it seems that lasted all for less than a week

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I saw a man on the street interview last week asking democrats about the assassination attempt. They were all saying it was staged. that Trump did this and had no problem killing or injuring his supporters. You could tell they actually believed what they were saying.

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strong delusion, they believed in the lies

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They have NO PROBLEM with killing opposing candidates, or even their own if that's what it takes for the Progressive Movement (Revolution) to move forward. These masses of complicit enablers are even Stockholm Syndromed enough to line up for their own executions. Cultocracy

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The old saying is that even a broken clock is right twice a day. But even so, that the Cretinous Marxist Band of Merry Cretins came out with this shrieking of 'Staged, Staged' took me by surprise because the risk in this particular deployment is that the spotlight could just as easily be turned back on them.

However, 911 happened under a 'Republican' administration ... and that it was a production rolled out of a Swiss Cheese Factory with facilities located in the Middle East as well as from the Emerald City on the Potomac. So who is to say?

About Butler? All I can say is that no matter what happen, no matter what doesn't make sense, the Official Narrative is now cast in cement. This was one of my principle take homes for the RNC held in Milwaukee. And neither the Commie Left or whatever the Republican side is evolving into, nobody is going to touch The Narrative with a ten foot pole.

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Yep, and look what happened to Jones for Sandy Hook.....that lesson was an intentional warning...

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Yes! Sandy Hook was entirely 'censored' and 'transed' into inviolate idiot's 'truth'. I am glad you said it out loud.

And we are really finding out that there is a lot of uncritical gullible bitting down of fish hooks going on here today. Sad to see ... and the reason why I think on many days that things only have one place to go. And that is to total collapse and into a really dark night. And I hate to say it starkly out loud.

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I find it odd how positively certain people are (one way or the other) about what happened re the shooting. The fact of the matter is none of us know. All of the possibilities out there are possible.

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Hi, Misery. Since you need company, I hear that OBiden has cleared his calendar. You and he seem to have a lot on common.

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CStone! Now I have to really wonder? Because when I hear things like, "Since you need company" and "I hear that OBiden ...", I really have to wonder if your are writing form The New American Troll.

Really, this lack of apropos to anything spewing has the appearance of four year old talk.

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How is your binary world going? You do realize it is possible to not like any of the candidates, right?

I would love to hear your mental gymnastics as to how people like Peter Thiel, Larry Fink, and Jamie Dimon are going to make things better for the average American. They are literal swamp creatures. Enjoy the slow walk off the cliff.

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Johnny, although it might be an unpopular opinion to hold in this crowd (sorry, crowd - I love you people), I see merit in this observation.

I remember after GWB took office, he began bringing on the MOST LOATHESOME people he could find to fill his cabinet appointments. These were people that immediately set about destroying the progress made in previous decades with regard to civil rights, the environment, the economy, etc. Every one was worst than the last. It wouldn't have surprised me if he'd appointed Jeffrey Epstein to the post of "child welfare czar".

And we saw what that wrought: 2 pointless wars that never accomplished the goals they were supposed to, setting up 7 more wars for Obama, and the utterly cynical corruption of every regulatory body that hadn't already been corrupted. Huge growth in the Administrative State with particular emphasis on the internal security apparatus, resulting in the steady erosion of our "God-Given" rights.

Trump made a lot of silly mistakes in his first term appointments. I was hoping he'd learned his lesson, but I'm thinking maybe he didn't. Maybe he's hiring these people just so he can fire them - if so, I hope he's got some good people in mind to back them up. And really-good security.

But it looks like he's already been shown the JFK alternate-angle film... Actually, he experienced it in real-life a couple of weeks ago. Perhaps these appointments are his strategy for surviving until he's sworn in. But by then, the die will have been cast - I think buddying up to deep-state operatives may well be his undoing.

Folks, again, sorry. I'm just saying don't be taken in by the "great man will save us" schtick. We need to save ourselves. Don't become complacent just because your man gets in. Washington has a way of corrupting everybody. Not trying to be gloomy, just real.

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Totally thoughtful points ... and indeed truth in words. And I hate to say it, but it make take either an outright civilizational collapse or else 75 years of brutization and misery like with Soviets before the rats are cleared out.

And even so, rats never totally disappear. The only go underground for a spell.

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Hey, I'm open to all possibilities. I can't nor can anyone here pretend to actually know what Trump has in store. All we can do is make predictions based on his past and what is currently happening. And by those metrics, it currently ain't looking too good.

I love the hypothesis you laid out about staying alive until in office. Everyone needs a glimmer of hope, but I certainly am not holding my breath.

I would love to see RFK get into the national conversation. His press conference remarks yesterday were pretty damn good. We won't hear anything about the record amount of money added to the deficit by Biden and Trump unless someone else is in the race. We won't talk about about chronic illness or the disastrous plandemic response unless someone else is in the race.

And disclaimer to those who have knee jerk reactions - I don't trust Kennedy either.

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Johnny-O! How peculiar it all is? The cast in cement, the written in stone buy-ins on both sides of the factional equation. And this is not to even say that one side is right and the other is wrong. But for sure, the buy-ins both sides are reflexive and a suspension of both critical analysis based in critical tools of thinking.

I can say two things: 1) Butler makes no lick of sense (all edges are jagged and no pieces of the puzzle fit together), and 2) The Narrative complete with The Perfect Picture are set in concrete more inflexible than anything the Romans had.

The Evil can only persist in time absent critical thinking and analysis. And longer term, without prosecutions for wrong doing.

The more things are fudged, the deeper grows the mire.

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It seems as though all critical thinking has left the room for many, unfortunately. People can't even confront the fact Trump is out talking about appointing the very swamp he claims to drain....sigh.

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I always try to get to things I can say with relative absolute certainty (yep, relative absolute certain! Now there is a real fudge flavored stating!).

1) Nobody gets on the presidential stage without a power something orchestrating behind him. And that real money and real power ... and real connectivity.

2) Nobody get could possibly survive what Trump has survived and appears to be surviving without 'a little help from his friends ... which points directly back to point number one above.

Therefore ... fairy tales, spun narrative, tall tales, blitzes and noise ... these and much more simply don't cut mustard. And when this is forgotten, it's then the blind leading the blind ... and all parties to blindness.

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To your blind comment: Love is blind, and boy do Trump's followers love him.

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I know, I know. And as you know, love is qualified in many, many places in the Bible ... an none of it love qualified outside the strictures of the law.

So what have I learned today? I have learned that some people probably can get more truth out of the Bible than other people can by barking up the same tree thirty-five times.

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I was guilty of suspecting that for about ten seconds. Imagine hiring someone to shoot at your head and just get your earlobe. I thought maybe if Trump were serious about staging something like this, he'd hire a Hollywood special effects team, get a squib installed behind his ear, and coordinate its activation with one of the "shooter's" shots. But then my rational mind returned.

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at least and good thing your rational mind did return, delusion is at a high point right now!

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Ah yes, those zoomable red dot sights, where at that range the red dot covers the whole head. Super accurate! šŸ™„

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It's actually sadder that she took the jabs.

In politics you can at least change your mind.

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TRUTH

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Deep State Political Assassinations are perhaps a greater threat to democracy than anything or anyone else. Media will mainstream this for us and make it an expected thing in a gun-addled society with so few resources for Mental Health. Polarizing politicians like Trump and 90% of Republicans should expect to be shot at, stabbed, bombed or bludgeoned by triggered persons (Leftists) according to Security State directed, DeepState owned media. Churches burning, mass shootings all normalized and accelerated in the New Order America

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Yes, and as far as "conspiracy theories" go, this is the much likelier explanation for the assassination attempt than a MAGAt orchestrated event to boost his already soaring poll numbers. šŸ„“

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ANYONE spouting that Trump & Team set up the shot to secure his nomination and get Biden blamed/to drop out is the biggest Fking IDIOT ever that need to be redflagged as dangerous to their community. The shooter(s) were hired (DHS/CIA/FBI/WTF-ever) and the head shot was pre-scouted and kept clear and allowed to occur without interference. The target was a half second and 1/4" of being brainblasted for all to see and the entire narrative and reality shifted--Biden would still be campaigning, Secret Service would have their budget doubled, Republicans would have had to nominate a DeSantis-Haley ticket or something WORSE, just IMAGINE how much better outcome the Security State would have preferred it than what has transpired...the flowchart moves on and Biden got drop-kicked instead. NEXT! Cultocracy keeps Dems from seeing that democracy has been a useful herd-control method in America for generations, and that the Republic spectacularly ended in Nov 1963

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You could be right. But on the other hand, none of the pieces fit together ... and then there is the thorny problem of qui bono. And even that could be worked from a number of angles, none of which make a lick of sense. Why! It could have even been a radical put up job caught onto and turned around for self-benefit of 'the other side'. But even this speculation does not make a lick of sense because of what? Because of complications which also cannot be neat fitted together.

And when nothing makes sense, it is usually a good idea to suspend any automatic belief buy-ins whatsoever.

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well okay, then JFK and Bobby K both set up their own fake assassinations and they put the brains into another body, The 3rd FAKE Biden just now dropped out of the pres race, Elvis and Jim Morrison hung out til E really did die of an opioid overdose in 2005, everything is a digitized Matrix-Alien Fake OUT; even Gilligan was misled to believe that HE caused the Minnow to shipwreck and the Rest all thought he was just an idiot when he actually intentionally kept them there for a psychological experiment long after he discovered the truth--

The Left and Security State are part of political attacks worldwide so until proven otherwise, they are behind the pretend alleged assassination try at Trump. If his motorcade is blown up by IED next month that will be alleged as well by many confused community members

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If you want to say, "You are stupid and don't know a lick," then why not just say it that way. Why waste time and jump through an absurdity of hoops just to say what you really want to say?

The Kennedy assassination official narrative at the time made sense to most the nation. I know that to be so because I was fourteen years old at the time. Why did everyone believe they knew exactly what they thought they knew? Because the man on the TV told all of us what to believe and we believed him. Surely the man on the TV ought to know! And the government or media would not lie to us.

And now everyone and his brother and sister knows exactly what happened Butler, Pennsylvania. The radical Woke element knows exactly what happened and they yell, "Staged, Staged" at the top of their shrill lungs. The other end of the spectrum yells out its, "It's the Left, it's the Left, it's the Deep State" ... and every three-eyed agency on the planet. And so, both sides argue against each other and a great cloud of noise rises up into the air. Everyone knows the truth and so the planet is safe for democracy ... or something? And nobody but no body wants to look at the moving parts, dissect the parts. And neither side ever will look closely at the thing and for varying reasons.

Here's an example, one glaring thing out of many things, that just did not make sense. This being that the real Secret Service is trained to shield the target and immediately move the target out of the kill zone. They don't pause for lost shoes. They don't pause for a protracted photo opt. They pause for nothing. Absolute nothing. Training is training for automatic quick response removal of the target. It's react, react and move, move. That's react and move without thinking, hesitation, pause, hitches and stammers, not stopping for anything in the way ... and move, move, move. We didn't see anything like that at all. We instead saw something against all Secret Service protocol.

Notice that I never said what happened. Notice that I never said I knew what happened. But I do know that there were more failures than Carter has little green liver pills and that none of the pieces and explanations summed together make sense.

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My outlandish examples were only presented as what some (I've been in conversations with personally) have accepted as factual. These were not examples that many on C & C espouse, and i do Not attribute to anyone on C & C although some in our "community" doubtless hold extremely strange viewpoints on historical events and famous persons. daverkb you are esteemed by this radical rightwinger (Centrist and Moderate in my own view) Republican patriot!

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I've never thought any of your observations are stupid. Never. You're correct that the Keystone cops type antics of Sec Svc detail were odd at times and the whole prolonged 2+ minutes to get him into the vehicle was perplexing. I was nearly 14 when Reagan and team were blasted by the mentally ill Hinkley Jr... that was extremely quick, into the vehicle and tail-lights, then the flap with Al Haig being "in Charge" instead of Bush --And i forgot Pope JP II nearly killed...and other such crimes for infamy or hit-jobs not quite completed I'm sure.

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Truth tellers are under fire. This is clearly evident in the Lawfare agenda of the past 4 years in which Citizens, as well as DJT and associates, are persecuted, prosecuted and jailed or bankrupted.

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Amazing... It's like the 60's all over again...

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Sadly, you're correct. We're not safe and up to November, keep a good eye on your surroundings...Pray for God's Protection every day and every night...

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I canā€™t and wonā€™t talk politics with my dad at all, until I die. Heā€™s a very smart person generally but has TDS and when I tried to show him the light, he wouldnā€™t even try to view the Twitter posts I sent him. He believes everything on Twitter is fake ā€œbecause anyone can post whatever they want on thereā€. Sometimes you just canā€™t change stupid, ignorant and stubbornā€¦ sad because we have a great relationship otherwise and like I said, heā€™s very smart otherwise.

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please please don't shut out your poor dad. Have pity on him because he's brainwashed but please don't let this dark magic come between family!

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We just canā€™t talk politics. Evidently thatā€™s not too uncommon in families.

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Me as well

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I am in the same boat as you. Love, love my Dad!

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Did he take certain shots?

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Oh of course! All of them! Because science

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Sorry to hear that. My old dad was resistant at first, but his wife (who is a stubborn idiot - the worst kind) believes everything the MSM tells her (even when it conflicts with what it told her the day before) and has pressured my dad into getting some number of these shots. He goes along to keep the peace, and I've given up on trying to talk sense to them. He's old and wants to die anyway (Alzheimers) so I guess if the jabs help him get there, ok. I just worry that she'll kick before he does - that will be a huge mess for us kids to have to deal with.

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It's funny - my dad and I fought about politics for years. He was always a conservative, but in the 90s he was embracing globalism - he thought it made perfect sense for companies to outsource their labor to cheaper markets (which makes sense on paper, but has little to do with patriotism). He's seen the error of his ways and now he and I agree on lots of things. He has TDS too, and thinks Soros is behind everything bad for America, ignoring the other billionaire elites also working to destroy the US. Poor guy has Alzheimers now... Going to visit him next week.

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You can post whatever you want, but you can also research those posts, look for their sources and judge for yourself. That's our job: to remain vigilant. So easy to say, so hard to do.

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Raising hand in the Parent/Child Political Chasm headcountā€¦my Diehard Dhimmicrat mother hates Trump with a ā€œwhite-hot intensityā€ bordering on nuclear fission. It took us two days to even bring up the fact that Trump had been shotā€¦and she insinuated that EVERYONE IS CRAZY these days. Had to say, ā€œhate to tell ya, Ma, but itā€™s the LOONY LEFTā€. She vehemently denied that, of course. Now, I wonder how many days itā€™ll take us to bring up her beloved President Cabbageā€¦šŸ™„šŸ™„šŸ™„

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I hate to say it. Your Mom is probably closer to the truth on this one with 'everyone is crazy.'

And so what CRAZY is going on today? Bickering over whether the 'assassination' was staged by the Trump-ies of staged by the Wicked Wokie Commie Left. And where does this leave us? And this is the important question. It leaves with a deafening distraction size of the moon or sun, but not anywhere near as illuminating. It leaves with Alice in Wonderland and in interminable wondering. And it cleaves us apart with one more cleavage of divide and conquer. I keep thinking that this may yet again be one more successful assassination ... the truth.

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Nicely concluded. šŸŽÆ

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What a Snappy last name! I like it! And thanks!

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staged...do these people hear themselves? I mean, hate Trump all you want, but you really think he's going to let some 20 year old idiot take a shot at his face? And I don't mean you - I mean your mom and every other completely insane person who has said this. It really is delusional.

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I texted her last night after she hung up and said it was the hand of God protecting him as there is NO WAY that could have been coordinated; to tell someone to turn their head at this time so my bullet will just graze you is absolutely insane thinking! Problem is, they ARENT thinking, no rational thought going on inside their brains

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Well, they think he didn't get shot; he flopped to the ground and slapped a "blood" packet against his face. No way could they graze him with an actual bullet. But people died and were injured. These goons have no problem with collateral damage to make it look real. I don't know what to think anymore. I do believe that either the SS was in on the attempt or they are more inept than a group of Shriners tooling around on little bikes.

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Fking KOOKS and BIG LIE-spouters need to be censored and red flagged as dangers to themselves and others

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Wow your mom sounds a lot like mine, but she is a lifelong D and has had TDS since 2016. I have given up talking national politics with her, but I did ask her the other day if she thought Biden was going to be on her ballot in Nov. Her response, oh he just has a bad debate, I don't know why they are picking on him. I have to go by there today, we'll see if the fireworks erupt....

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LOL! One of my coworkers said that early voting had already begun here in NC and they already cast their ballot, LOL, what do they do now since the one they most likely voted for is no longer running???? (in nasal tones: Can I have my ballot back please??? LOL)

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That's awesome.

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Wow, insane that they would hold voting that early! No October surprise for them!

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that's just what they told me, no clue

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Take her some ice cream in honor of, well you know the thing

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Yeah I saw he was resigned on National Ice Cream day. Oh the irony.

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LOL, love that!!!

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My husband and I can relate. Both our mothers are utterly brainwashed and delusional as well. Itā€™s so sad.

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I'm so sorry. Having TDS is worse than having cancer.

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We had one of those in my FIL. He was registered R (we were always I until recently) and he was so behind Obama it was sickening. Ran from my house once when I even mentioned something Glenn Beck said LOL

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You know, I remember a time when I would hear that the older generations' vote was kept secret, even from their spouse. It was sacred. Politics weren't all consuming either. I have European relatives and it was a man's world to sit around and debate and argue their politics, but no one ever hated the other. It was a pass time and they would end on friendly notes, going on to something else.

I never, ever thought that I would see this type of all consuming and passion invoking anger and obsession in this country. It all started with the internet and cable news. It is destroying us.

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Very sad that families have this happen. We have had it happen in ours too. My wife hung up on her brother because he called us "stupid fn People because we wouldn't take the kill shot and because we KNOW the election was rigged. He now has cancer and "through the roof" high blood pressure most likely from the shots.

His oldest son is a conservative and can't convince his dad to like Trump.

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and yet they will still deny and say it was the cv jab, they will say how it saved them! Cannot lead the blind

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Sorry - give her time

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She is a staunch Catholic, cannot even talk reason with her on that and praying to "saints" for this and that, so I think time will not work with her, hasn't yet. She needs a true wakeup call from God. Remember people, we need to keep our eyes on God and faith in Him and NOT who will be running or get into the WH (they are NOT our savior, and our world is doomed regardless!)

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The Saints are our friends and intercessors in Heaven! Their lives, their martyrdom, their stories of great devotion and courage, can bring us closer to our Lord. PLEASE do not allow a difference of approach in faith traditions destroy your relationship. There is no wrong or right in worshipping Jesus Christ. The only one who wins such arguments is satan.

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Amen, trying my best not to, but when you pray to someone other than God in Jesus' name, I have to wonder? "I will pray to Mary as she was given a workload from God to take care of..." REALLY???? Since when does God need help in accomplishing anything? She really said that to me, that Mary was given tasks to do in heaven in relation to our salvation...smh

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Worship of the earthly mother of Jesus is not biblical but that detail does not matter to those who also believe in the infallibility of the pope.

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TBF, the Romans would say that they do not "worship" Mary, merely "honor" her -- though to those of us on the outside it looks uncomfortably close to worship.

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50+ Hail Marys vs 5 Our Fathers in each rosary is honor, not worship? I repeat: this is not biblical.

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It is NOT worship. It is honor...In traditional cultures throughout history, the Mother of the King was always given elevated honor. Mary is the mother chosen by God to give birth to His Son, King of Kings.

I don't think that modern Americans can fully understand with their hearts, the amount of honor a son had for his mother in traditional cultures. A good son could never say no to a plea from his mother. Indeed. we see this at the wedding of Canaa in the New Testament.

Both the Orthodox and Catholics honor the Virgin Mary greatly as 'Theotokos', Mother of our God.

All prayers said to her are for her motherly intercession, and always lead us to her son, Jesus.

In all miracles and apparitions to saints, she leads the person to Jesus.

Catholics and Orthodox do not judge Protestants. despite the sola scriptura form of worship.

Why then are certain Protestants so judgemental of the worship traditions of those Christians whose worship to Christ predates them by millenia? Is this truly Christian and love of brother and sister in Christ. or self love? 'My way is the correct and only way'?

Countless Catholic and Irthodox Christians have suffered gruesome martyrdom for Christ. is this fair to them?

Do you think that all this type of denominational superiority mentality is good for the salvation of one's soul? Is there humility in that?

The greatest Orthofox prayer is a simple one:

' Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Living God, have mercy on ME a sinner'. šŸ™āœļøāœŒļø

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To answer your question about "why are protestants so judgmental", the answer is that, well... some are just people being people and opposing anything different from what they are familiar with. But others are critical because they have genuine concerns that some practices of the Roman church (or the Eastern church for that matter) may be either crossing the line into things forbidden by God, or at least leading to taking the focus off God and putting it elsewhere.

Of course, sincere protestants would acknowledge that no faithful believer is intentionally doing wrong on purpose; it's a dispute over who is right, not who is sincere.

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I would agree that it matters not who occupies the WH, and that there is doom, but not for the world. I would say that what face doom in the face of a growing God-facing population are systems, political, economic, religious and etc. that are no longer sustainable. The world over. The planet's not going anywhere. Billions of humans will survive the current chaos. I suspect that in a generation or so - I might be dead, so the time to speculate aloud is present - the state of affairs in numerous sectors will be on the scale of unrecognizable to old codgers who grew up in the old paradigm. What I can't speculate on is what the awakened humans will create. I don't know your makeup or worldview apart from "our world is doomed regardless," but I would urge considering apocaloptimism. -? 2Ā¢.

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I am speaking with our times being Revelation time, Daniel time, end of the world tribulation time, so yes, the world is at its' close and ready for the millennial reign of the trib time closes and then a new heaven and a new earth afterwards

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Yes! Knowing Scripture is what gives me hope in these dark crazy days!

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I do like that word.

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Well, I wonder about Butler, PA because I can make no sense out of it ... not a lick. And then when I heard the Cretin Rabid Radicals all chirping 'Staged, Staged' in the loudest of chirping voices, I had to doubly or triply wonder because: 1) staging is their speciality, and 2) I had to wonder if the Projection Machine was left on and running. And I can't make a lick out any of this either.

Now that mom was a Republican stunning. But now maybe just a Republican in reverse gear? Maybe just the same time, but with schizoid differences of real consequences. And the real confusion lies in that non sequiturs, jagged edges and a daily diet of fog are now just a way of life?

The real tragedy of Modern Times is smashed families ... and all by design, all on purpose and a divide and conquer strategy laying waste to countries and continents. I am so sorry to hear this.

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Yes. Pray for her.

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I did, couldn't sleep much last night, but I do remember in my dream this morning that I saw her come and kiss my forehead, just called her and told her that, thankfully that kinda patched things up a bit, but she thought that she herself was the only one thinking about Trump staging that shot, told her thats why I shut her down because she WASNT the only one thinking that, and told her again that the hand of God was on him for that shot, otherwise he would be dead now. Then she asked about 2025, wow, big breath there and had to explain to her about many possible scenarios that will bring the Deagle report to fruition and what our roles as saints are to those who will be dying around us are, to start buying extra food and water, sheesh, not enough time in a lunch period to go over all that stuff. She may still hate Trump but at least there is some talking again now.

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I am sorry for you and your mom Why vote democrat when they want to destroy USA they do not seem to get it heaven help us God Bless America

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You're right about the cv jabs.. there's something that has changed my husband's health, but he at least admits it. He watched the debate. He explained "how can anyone vote for Biden after that!". I told him I'd been telling him from day one that Biden had dementia..He refused to believe me until he saw it himself. They made a mistake or purposely made a mistake to root Biden out, when he refused to go (Jill refused), they pulled the plug ....

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I'll pray for her. My granddaughter haven't talked to their mother nor me for 4 years..it's heartbreaking seeing them swayed by the evil people in their lives .

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As Nancy, (as the Land of OZ wicked witch of the west) stood and shook her fingers....

made it clear to all they could do it" easy way, or the hard way"!

She gave them three weeks of the easy way. It was about to be the hard way!

I'll get all of you....and your little dog that bites people too!

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But what was her hard way? A "final solution"?

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25th amendment

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Iā€™d been pondering whether Joe would have a ā€œspellā€ (as in died suddenly & docs baffled) or suffer a fatal fall. Because he (whoever his handlers are) said he would not p

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ā€¦.pull out of his campaign.

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those were my thoughts exactly!

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Itā€™s weird. I donā€™t understand their mentality.

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Be worried if you do understand it. Satanā€™s thinking is insane and thatā€™s his followers way of thinking as well.

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Thatā€™s my feeling. Yesterday when the news broke, my family & I were out to breakfast & they had TVā€™s on with the news. My 9 year old heard it first & came over to tell us; immediately my heart sank because I know itā€™s just the tip of the iceberg that will be revealed. An attempted assassination of a former President running for office and nearly a week later ā€” this!!! It all stinks

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Most Democrats are embracing Harris as Bidenā€™s successor because, in RFK Jr estimation,

ā€œitā€™s the easiest way to hold onto the money.ā€

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exactly, they lose it all if they don't, how many are cringing at the thought??? LOL

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In Boston? Wow. Thatā€™s so encouraging!

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Definitely!

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I'm starting to wonder who isn't a blind sheep.

On the other "side" we have Trump supporters who appear to be blindly walking off the cliff, as Trump discusses nominating Larry Fink of Black Rock to be Treasury Secretary and serial banking criminal Jamie Dimon to be commerce secretary.

Apparently when Trump says drain the swamp he intends to drain it in order to select the scum at the bottom for his cabinet positions.

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was just listening to a video about Fink, did Trump not learn THE FIRST TIME??? He needs to get all those a holes out of there and install all new people!!!

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Exactly. The first time around, I kept asking, is Trump either being fooled, or is he in on it? So, fool me once, shame on you.....

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exactly my thoughts! Can we just write in vote for Jesus Christ as president????

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We can but few know who He is really and many think he's Trump.

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This is what I have been waiting and watching for all along. He really hasn't expressed how he made mistakes the first time to and far as I can tell, he doesn't think he did. He's a great glass of wine until you get to the bottom. I do not trust the Christian train behind him. But what can we do. I'm the Elect and not deceived but God has limited my choices.

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Exactly!!!!! Thats why I am just going to put Our Lord and Savior in for Prez, no other choice left but Him imo.

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They were cheering Trump at a country club in Boston??? I live in Boston. Where exactly are my people???? I was at the state house in Boston again last week, lobbying my legislators. They are trying to pass a bill that will force cities and towns in Massachusetts to adhere to national Health standards if they want $200 million in American rescue plan money appropriated during covid. I lobbey my legislators in my spare time and for free. But right there in the rotunda at the State House Thursday, a biotech company was wining and dining the state legislators in the middle of the day for all to see. šŸ˜“

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Sickening

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128 bandits, formerly MIT students?

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Very interesting, thanks for sharing.

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This quote, "Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence." is getting quoted everywhere now, but my mind canā€™t help but take it a step further:

Malice breeds incompetence

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Or incompetence breeds malice.

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Or the malicious ones use the incompetent ones to their own ends.

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Hanlon's Razor. Whoever Hanlon is...

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I dunno, I live in the area, and thatā€™s not what Iā€™m seeing and hearing. Mostly, ā€œIā€™m with her!ā€ Iā€™m not expecting to see Trump lawn signs any time soon.

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Says this Baystate native who escaped from Taxachusetts 47 years ago, if a Boston CC could erupt into Trump-cheer, what else awaits us?

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Who is running this country?

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satan is

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Sadly last week I was wine tasting with a friend and a golf/country club type couple in the Napa Valley. He is a retired ā€˜sportscasterā€™ from a local station in VA. She worked for the Gov-ment for the CMS/Medicaid program and believe it or not is a yoga instructor! In their mid 60ā€™s, they left VA, then ā€˜retiredā€™ out in Napa a year ago.

Mind you this was before the Biden Twitter ā€˜drop out the the raceā€™ post of yesterday. They couldnā€™t stop themselves from saying how great Biduhn was, how great his presidency was, that the stock market went up due to his great economic policies, going on and on extolling the virtues of Biduhn! Never once admitting or bringing up that the reason he might ā€œbe stepping downā€ as President, is due to his senility, dementia and memory issues.

Then they went onto say should ā€œBiduhn bow out of the raceā€, that they like Gretchen Widmer, the psycho Governor of Michigan, who plotted her own ā€œkidnappingā€ with the FBI!

First of all I could hardly believe what they were sayingā€¦ I wanted to throw up, but sat in the back seat of the car, and just looked out the window, doing deep breathing to try and lower my blood pressure!

Because I rarely am around people like these two, it was surreal, how they so throughly believe all the MSM propaganda BS that is going on in regards to what is going on in our country.

But then again he was a TV ā€˜sportscasterā€™ for his whole career, so I shouldnā€™t be surprised. I couldnā€™t wait to get away from these people!

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When my new neighbors moved in and I saw a trans flag painting being unloaded, I knew what they represented. I refuse to discuss anything with them about politics or religion.

We get along great. I've taught them how to grow veggies, baked for them and they love my dogs (3) and me.

We're neighbors, they need to know my house in case of fire or hurricane (SC). We can get along as long as we keep everything at a local/survival level.

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My sister is a sheep too

I still love her, but not as much

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#WeTheSheeple

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From the WSJ this morning:

"Concerns about Bidenā€™s age and mental acuity grew from a murmur among allies, who said they believedā€”or hopedā€”they were catching the president on a bad day, to a deafening roar, as many of those same allies called on him to step aside in the wake of his disastrous debate performance. A team of Journal reporters examines how the Democratic Party came to the brink of nominating a candidate with an obvious flaw, a yearslong miscalculation that has Democrats racing to mount an uncertain reboot of their campaign against Trump."

No kidding... Biden's frailties, dementia, and other major shortcomings including his history have been obvious for years. What is particularly disturbing is that democrats didn't realize this. Who actually has been making decisions during the last couple of years? Unnamed or unidentified bureaucrats sitting around a conference table arguing and then succumbing to flipping a coin? Did anyone vote for this in 2020? Does the seriousness of this democrat miscalculation give pause to thoughts that they can satisfactorily govern America? Their Party platform appears to be nothing but hate of Trump, support of abortion up to the moment of delivery, and coupled with buying votes by passing out freebies like passing the costs of college loans to those who pay taxes and also paid their student loans as I did.

So now Kamala. Can't the democrat party do better than that? Race and gender are hardly qualifications to be president. How did she do as "Border Czar" when appointed by Biden? What in her background indicates any success other than romancing Willie Brown to get her start?

Listening to the radio overnight, Bill Cunninham, the BBC, and NPR I'm astounded by the praises showered upon Biden by the gullible. A great man? Hardly. Just the head of a money-grubbing family trading influence for dollars along with a heavy dose of hate. He and his family will probably escape prosecution for real crimes, he will pardon his son, and it can never be said that Trump beat him. A great man? Eye roll. Go look at the video of his dark red hateful MAGA is the devil speech in which he slandered nearly half of the country who voted for the orange-haired guy.

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"Go look at the video of his dark red hateful MAGA is the devil speech in which he slandered nearly half of the country who voted for the orange-haired guy."

When I saw that speech, I thought, How can Americans not see Hitler personified?

Then I realized how old I am.

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For anybody under 60, Hitler is a metaphor. Boomers had fathers and uncles who fought and/or died fighting the real Hitler. I grew up in a neighborhood where my friends' parents had serial numbers tattooed on their arms. Today calling somebody Hitler just means you hate them.

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JJ - Sad but true, a result of dumbing down education and their attempt at erasing our history.

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Like JD Vance calling Trump Hitler and now suddenly heā€™s his #2?

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I was a ā€˜never trumperā€™ at first. I wanted Ted Cruz, lol. But one day, as I was walking out of my laundry room, the Spirit of the Living God spoke to me and said ā€œWho do you think you are?ā€

I stopped dead in my tracks. I was petrified.

He went on to say:

ā€œDo not call what I have declared clean as unclean!! I have CHOSEN Donald Trump and he is an instrument in MY HANDS.ā€

I repented then and there and got on the Trump Train. Once I adjusted my sight, I saw what the Father saw in him. A vessel in the hands of the Potter. Like me. Not yet fully what I could be, should beā€¦ā€¦but in HIS merciful hands, being shaped into what He sees to be needed.

For who knows but that Donald J Trump was firmed in his motherā€™s womb ā€œFor such a time as this?ā€

If he were perfect, we would not need our Savior, Yeshua. What we need is a leader. We already have a Savior. We need a President.

Case closed.

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"If he were perfect, we would not need our Savior, Yeshua. What we need is a leader. We already have a Savior. We need a President." Awesome observation!! My sentiments exactly! Bless you!

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***formed in his motherā€™s womb*****

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Trump is indeed an imperfect vessel (just like the rest of us), but God is humbling him over and over. He lost to Sleepy Basement Joe in 2020! Well, actually, I do believe the election was stolen. If the Ds win again, I will give up hope that we have a free nation anymore. If Trump truly was almost assassinated, that's got to be yet another call for him to get in line with the Redeemer.

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The very same thing happened to me once when I was having a hateful venom filled rant to myself about my hypocrit BIL. So sinless while we knew better what he really was. I actually heard ā€œwho do you think YOU are? I was blown away by this truth and dug out my Bible. I came to Christ a few months later. Praise the God of Mercy.

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People are allowed to change their opinions.

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Yeah, at least the RNC was good TV production ;)

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āœ”ļøIt's ALL theater. Frank Zappa, you remember him šŸ˜‰: "Politics is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex." Never more evident than our present times.

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hollywood is langley west

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I think COVID helped get him elected. They mostly kept him in the basement during the run up to the 2020 election. And THEN he gets 83 million votes? Anyone with a critical eye at the time knew he was mentally flawed even back then.

I think the fact that he hasn't been removed from office (yet) shows the dems are going to pull a fast one at the convention and nominate someone else.

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Remember, he wasn't elected. It was a rigged and stolen election. He has never been legitimate.

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This! We need to be sure to keep the truth of the 2020 coup fresh and clear to people!

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No!! The machines donā€™t lie!!! Even though every other computer system on earth can be, and has been, hacked the voting machines are safe and effective! /big sarcasm

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THEY put him in...THEY can take him out... remember it was reported the "LONE shooter" had info on Biden's PA stops as well. Kennedy was put in via the IL CHEAT of Nixon...THEY placed him THEY replaced him.

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Our entire history has been a theatrical production. JKF, RFK, MLK, moon landing, 9-11, Covid, all of it! People are strange critters.

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Agree

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Pennsylvania cheated 2020...Trump won...Dems stole it.

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Same for Michigan, Georgia, and Arizona.

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Lets not forget the Stalinist democracy: elections are not decided by the voters, but by those who count the votes. The only reason Broccoli got 83 million votes was because Trump but 72 million and they needed a wide enough margin to call any opposition "conspiracy theory" or "fake news"

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....by those who count the votes.

That, friends, is the straight up truth in the neo-Marxist lust for power as currently illustrated by the Democrat Party.

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Gretchen Whitmerā€¦ they have been planning this for a couple of years.

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Iā€™m still waiting for Big Gretch to ā€œfix the damn roads!ā€

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I think Big Gretch is their plan B.

The diversity play with Jamaican / Indian Kamala may not really be the best to pull in votes.

Whereas the Michigan Gov has a much smaller negative footprint, and just seems more marketable. And pulls in a critical swing state.

Now how do they swap her in?

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It's been said that she is not running. Big Gretch does not have a leg to stand on. She locked us down while she and her husband went boating. She did not want us pumping gas because of covid. She killed people in nursing homes. She locked us down endlessly until we took away her emergency powers.

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And would they reject a candidate that has more spaces on the intersectional bingo card? Trading a 'black' woman for a white one is a step down in their world, isn't it?

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In their world.

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A lot of democrats like Whitmer. I'm not sure why.

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It's because they are low information people. They don't vote based on reality, but as part of the delusional world in which they live.

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My MI friends just love her. Barf!

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And prohibited the sale of garden seeds that spring, when many people who had never gardened were waking up to the delicate state of supply chains. When I asked the why, someone replied Whitmer was afraid people would hang around the seed racks breathing on each other. And you don't notice folks doing just that at the produce shelves? the meat display? even the ice cream section?

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I read that she locked up the vegetable seed aisle in Home Depot stores so that no one could grow their own food. SMH! Can someone verify that?

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And the paint aisles. So you're off from work for months; let's paint the house and put in new steps! Nope.

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Actually, that would make her the perfect Democrat candidate.

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Iā€™ve heard that Sorosis her uncle. Money talks, and tells lies especially well.

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I read an interesting commentary somewhere saying that Gretchen, Gavin, and most of the other names that weā€™re hearing believe they have a better political future if they wait, and that they are likely to be hesitant to throw it away in what will be an uphill battle in 2024. But on the other hand, they can just steal even harder this time.

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They donā€™t need her to pull in Michigan, the cheating does that.

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Gretchen Whitmer was predicted by Houseinhabit at least 3-4 months ago based off of a tip from a (tipsy) source who is well connected in the liberal elite circle.

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Who do they she is? I doubt most of the country has ever heard her name. Sheā€™s a perfect example of the bubble they live in

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She's the one who plotted her own kidnapping with the FBI. We just have to remind people of that.

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...because no self respecting kidnapper would waste his time on that harridan.

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I also know her as the person who wouldnā€™t allow people to buy seeds at home depot, but nuts and screws and wood were ok.

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Buying paint was a no-no in Whitmer-land too. Imagine the headrush she must have had wielding all that power over the plebes.

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Horrible woman

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had forgotten that

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well, absolutely right ..... ( i "knew" this was the playbook for quite some time now ) .

and, to change the thought a bit : I am also sure it is not a fast one being pulled , but rather again, written in the playbook for some time now . ( ok smartie pants , who's gonna be the "nominee" they put out there ? ) . hmmmmm i don't quite have that inside info yet, but the players will begin to be shown bit by bit .

Guess we could have some guesses by those here on C& C ..............

psssst: there is still always the idea that the puppet masters really can put anyone in, even Trump ......... because the real "plan" won't be affected , except for the usual jockying around the billionaires table .

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They can always just throttle Trump again and everyone near him for 4 years, or send a professional killer next time... or other options...the behind the scene operators will not be allowing The People to run things, NEVER. Democracy is as real as J & J's serum was a vaccine

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Sounds like that is what Odummer wants and he's the one really in charge (and Pelosi doesn't want her either) so...

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WAIT! They also cannot change the candidate on the ballot in several states. Also, Tom Fitton wrote a post about Kamala not being able to run because sheā€™s not a natural born citizenā€¦of course Obama got away with it sooooooā€¦..

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What is Pennsylvania gonna do?

All those Biden/Harris ballots are already printed up to stuff the ballot boxes.

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The Ends are being determined...the means will be forthcoming

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There are 9 states that set their ballots after the Dem Zoom Primary. Done deal. 130 electoral college votes in the toilet, unless Joe's DOA. Think about that.

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Judicial Watch has done some great things. But Fitton needs to stop that kind of talk NOW. Republicans have a propensity for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Going down this road is just WRONG. And remember, Trump was a prominent birther.

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Started by the HRC campaign in 2008. Look it up

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Thanks for reminding me of HRCs role. I try to forget her. I have detested her since Whitewater ( when she was First Lady of Arkansas).

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I guess THAT'S what THEY mean when THEY accuse DJT of being "a threat to OUR (meaning THEIR) democracy".

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Remember, their definition of democracy is different from ours.

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Harris-Daniels 2024! or maybe CowMala Harris-Phoni Willis; Dominion will have to step up to save democracy from Trump-MAGA

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Those who are a real threat to democracy call DJT a threat. There they go again with their projections...

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Sometimes putting democracy on pause is needed in order to save it

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The Iron Law of Woke Projection never fails!

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So the Dem elected peeps are lining up behind Kamala but, especially if Obama is claiming there will be another candidate, it sounds like perhaps the $$ is notā€¦yet?

Battle of the billionaires, Dem edition.

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and they call the Dems the party of the average Joe and the Republicans the party of the rich!

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right? Dems as the party of average Joe is a joke

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They can replace the idiot woman of color as easily as Old Sick Joe...she may have some DHS hired kid shoot at her next, or simply be paid to leave after catching CoVid herself. Obama-Clyburn can make em or break em apparently; Hillary supports Harris but Obama is holding off??? And smug little Sorass smiling with CowMala 2 hours after they palace-coup the old Jackass?? Biden's like the old guy in Monty Python and Holy Grail claiming "I'm NOT dead yet!" (Yeah Joe, you ARE, they say you are and so..) they put him in, HE never earned it..he only convinced himself that he did.

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Oddly, only in the US the Cackling Camel considered black. Elsewhere they call her Indian - which she truly is. But how many India Americans are there vs how many blacks?

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Father black.

Mother Indian.

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I see even on this substack and others everyone uses democracy we are a republic you must remember that my opinion it is important to differentiate between the two God Bless the USA

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I agree a whole lot of theater!!!

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When i heard all the immediate glowing praise for Biden after his /someoneā€™s letter, i thought it must be part of the ā€œdealā€ ā€œtheyā€ made with him to get him to quit.

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ā€œPreserve his legacy,ā€ and generous severance package. The 91M in his war chest and guaranteed payment of all future legal expenses for his entire family also part of the deal, I suspect.

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Exactly. What else was promised ? Immunity for his beloved Hunter & corrupt family? Cleared schedule for the week!?! Ooooof

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And what was promised for Dr. Jill to her her to unclench her gnarly fingers? Tablecloth dresses to her hearts content and classy fishnet stockings to go with them. What else?

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I canā€™t be the only one who remembers freshly implanted Biden in 2021 saying in corporate mediaā€¦ ā€œoh theyā€™ll keep me for a while then get rid of me somehowā€ā€¦ and Pelosi on an unrealized hot microphone sayingā€¦ ā€œ no.. donā€™t let Biden talk on airā€ā€¦. Iā€™ve searched for those video clips, but it appears unsurprisinglyā€¦ theyā€™ve been scrubbedā€¦

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Iā€™m honestly shocked by the amount of my friends who think this all is ok, and Joe was a great man šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø I know Iā€™m a rare voter who is constantly doing deep dives, but honestly, what are they drinking?!

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Agree! The early debate was to ultimately get rid of Biden, followed by their plan to assassinate President Trump. With the slate cleaned of both major parties, the deep state could install THEIR chosen candidates and continue business as usual...imho

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"Romancing" is a pretty fancy word for what she provided to Willie.

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Yeah, hard to swallow...

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I saw what you did thereā€¦šŸ¤£

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Her theme music while campaiging should be"Knees up Ka-ma-la". Mr. Brown would probably offer to a duet with her.

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I felt the same way hearing all of that praise. Made me sick šŸ˜”

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I think they didn't anticipate the rapid decline of their puppet. Obama, in his hubris, assumed he could control and use Biden to institute his own policies. And now I think his preferred candidate is his wife. Watch and see, Michelle will be the Left's savior, and the stupid Americans who fell all over themselves to vote for the First Black President will hurt themselves climbing over their own best interests to vote for the First Black Woman president.

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this is what I'm scared of because she'll win by a landslide. She truly is their only hope.

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Outstanding comment, Douglas.

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I agree. It was very well said.

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And the tears. Dems crying over Biden. Give me a break. Lionizing this means spirited pol makes me ill. He completely lost me with that hateful diatribe in Philadelphia.

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Czarina Kamala wants easy entry for all into her southern border, in addition the White House gynecologist will now have the most intimate view into the inside goings on for the new Head of State

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Czarina Kamala! It does have a catch to it ... and auric shiny and commanding.

My only question is: where does Rasputin fit into all of this?

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I prefer Cacklin' Camela

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Cacklin' Camela? DeWife say that 'they' (maybe the Obama Mafia) might depose Cacklin' Camela and bring in Ramblin' Rose. Or some other political Super Nova candidate.

One trouble with that! It's going to be hard to beat Cacklin' Camel? It's got that ring to it.

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But race and gender is literally ALL they care about. The party has gone full on Marxist.

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Amen

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I watched that demonic, satanic video back when it was made and I never want to see it again, myself. Maybe it needs to be seen once, though, to be believed.

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Gives me the Willie's I am astounded by the ignorance of the dems. when I hear, President elect Trump is causing the demise of democracy my answer back is we're a republic so how can you demise something that isn't

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NPR helped me wake up in 2016. They were so emotional about Killary losing, I started questioning everything.

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Seriously? This is the WSJ?

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From Ed Dowdā€¦

Let's recap this historic day:

ā€¢ Joe Biden suddenly *RESIGNS* via @X

ā€¢ White House staff find out ONE MINUTE later

ā€¢ Joe Biden "resignation" letter not on official letterhead

ā€¢ Biden "signature" suspect (underlined?)

ā€¢ Steve Richetti helped write letter

ā€¢ Jill Biden tweets *heart emoji* response

ā€¢ White House *WIPES* Biden's schedule

ā€¢ WH Chief of Staff calls Cabinet, manages Comms

ā€¢ Frank Biden confirms health a factor

ā€¢ Family suggests Biden may have terminal illness

ā€¢ Joe Biden holds no LIVE Press Conference

ā€¢ Where is Joe?

Just another perfectly normal day in Biden's America.

EDWARD DOWD

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Well, this is obvious. We may never see Biden again... alive. But that opens up some concerning possibilities. Biden's "death" is announced, the Laughing Hyena becomes POTUS (leaving Obama STILL in control), a "false flag" truck bomb blows up the Democratic Convention or perhaps Congress, POTUS blames the MAGA terrorists, cancelling the elections by declaring a state of emergency and begins arresting MAGA leaders for terrorism. Worst case scenario? I'm not predicting this. Any number of False Flags could ensue upon Bidens death... or none. But I wouldn't bet on none.

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Big D donors reportedly seen tripping over each other at Big Mike's war room. Just saying.

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The Convention IS in Chicago...

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That crossed my mind too. What better place to hold a convention than Chicago, just brimming with Antifa, illegal aliens and BLM all eager to start rioting and burning. And no police force to "serve and protect". If I lived there, I would leave the city during the convention. If not, I'd have the door barred and be locked and loaded.

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I'm down in Wonderland having tea with Alice ... and we are wondering.

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holy shit, like. Feaked out at the possibility...but, like

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The German Nazis, the Dem Party's predecessors, burned the Reichstag (the equivalent of our Congress) to the ground FOUR WEEKS after Adolf became Chancellor. History repeats quite often.

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Ned, thanks for posting this. Ed Dowd is one smart guy with a knack for connecting dots.

Yes, I donā€™t think many of us would be surprised at not seeing Joe again as he appeared to be a dead man walking as he boarded the plane five days ago.

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Frank Biden said: " "Selfishly I will have him back to enjoy whatever time we have left in our lives," he said.

That could easily be misinterpreted. Anyone in their 80s might say something like that.

He also said:

"It really boils down to this: it has to do with his overall health and vitality. Not anything cognitive. But heā€™s a proud guy, it pisses him off that he shuffles when he walks," Frank said. He added that it has ā€œbeen really horrible [for the family] to see the dogs let loose on him,ā€ referring to Bidenā€™s allies who had been urging him to step down".

**It seems that his obvious cognitive issues will continue to be denied.**

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Yes, denial thatā€™s been going on for years about his cognitive decline. The Biden crime family gig is a profitable one to give up; they donā€™t want to let it go.

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LIKE

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I searched where is Hunter Biden today and POlitico had a spotting of him in LA Friday and meeting with his sugar daddy Kevin Morris. Weird he wasn't with Joe during this unless he flew in later in the weekend.

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I saw everything here or there, except 'family suggests Biden may have terminal illness'.

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This is my theory. They're playing some kind of sympathy card. But we all have been calling this for a long time he would be gone.

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Frank Biden:

"Selfishly I will have him back to enjoy whatever time we have left in our lives," he said.

That is a perfectly normal statement, imo, for anyone in their 80s to say.

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I wonder what Dowd has to say about Trump considering nominating pond scum Larry Fink to Treasury Secretary and serial banking criminal Jamie Dimon to commerce secretary?

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On which Dowd undoubtedly has a much closer insight into Fink. Maybe not first person, but surely as a former cog. Dimon, maybe not so much but, yeh, I'd be interested in his take. Good call.šŸ‘

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W O W !

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I would love to know what the negotiation process with Jill looked like and what she held out for. (A)

250 million (B) Hunter getting off (C) The biggest, fanciest presidential library the country has ever seen (D) All of the above

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A lifetime supply of White House slipcovers from which to make her dresses.

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And curtains!

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And tablecloths šŸ˜‘

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And fishnet stockings to go with the fancy dresses.

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Maybe it's just a case of Hillary making her a offer she couldn't refuse.

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Too good.

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Like not subjecting her to a Clinton suicide . . .

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You said that, not me, lol.

BUT she isn't called Killary for nothing.

The biggest reason the Democrats have for keeping Harris is that the Biden-Harris PAC dollars can't easily go to any candidate other than Biden or Harris.

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I've been thinking about the boss in the movie, Joe Versus The Volcano, lol, Mr Waturi! -- As far as Kam a lamity Harris getting the nomination:

Mr. Waturi:

I know [s]he can get the job, but can [s]he do the job?

That's where they are.

It's 2024, will Trump run unopposed? lol, what a thought...

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I kind of think they either used the assassination attempt to threaten him with or maybe that was part of the reason they engaged in the attempt.

A picture lesson for Biduhn, with the added bonus of getting rid of PDT. A CIA dream.

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Whatever it was she finally got it.

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Either bought off or threated with exposure.

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Itā€™s the money. Itā€™s ALWAYS the money.

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Anybody nervous about who Trump is surrounding himself with? From what I understand, Vance has investments in mRNA technology, History with CIA and military complex. Plans to appoint people from Black rock, State Street, vanguard.

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There will be A LOT of FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) sprayed around regarding Trump; most will end up proving to be false. Don't get sucked into it already.

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Iā€™m notā€¦but ā€¦ he needs to pay his bills , I know 2 companies personally .

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Now that we will no longer have people who will be thinking that Brandon is their bro, you may have to change your name! (yours always made me chuckle inside; truly love it)!

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lol , Time to move on .

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I know nothing about the particular situations, but isn't it a disagreement about whether the work was done to the agreed-upon standard? If not, where do their lawsuits stand?

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I get the standard thing and done to liking cause contractors screw up but letā€™s see if I can find another example .

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That sounds pretty bad. I'd like to hear the other side's claims before drawing a conclusion, but I will say it's not how I do business.

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There is another one with a cabinet company from the 80ā€™s but canā€™t find the link . Maybe on Tritorch .com site

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Not trying to sew strife .

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It bears watching yes.

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Yes, I know that. Thiel is connected to nearly everyone: Musk, Ramaswamy, Zuckerberg, Fink, Hulk Hogan,... Remember, Thiel was the DNI under Trump. But that doesn't mean much right now. It's worth keeping an eye on, but it's not time to jump off the cliff.

I have very good friends who are, gasp, LIBERALS!

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Larry Fink.

Jamie Dimon.

Peter Thiel was influential in Trump's pentagon picks last time around, who turned out to be horrible. So unless he's going to pull some of his own deep state trickery, it seems like his followers are about the only ones to be fooled again.

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quite possible...

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Reagan said it best: "Trust but verify."

It's not like Trump had a thousand trustworthy people to choose from. Ties to isn't like BEING deep state like Pence and Bar and Dr. scary and on and on.

Let's see if the man shot can go scorched earth and execute terminal limits on a dozen 3 letter agencies. After all, it's Trump that has the most at stake.

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No, Ric Grenell was DNI, not Thiel.

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Ugh...stupid mistake...thanks for the correction

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kinda like Obama, huh? kinda like Harris? kinda like a Biden when he got started? There are lots of these folks who get put in positions by others who are hoping to get an ROI on their investment. As often as not, that investment goes south because those placed individuals have their own egos and agenda. No one is pure in politics (Tulsi Gabbard may be as close as you'll get.).

Trump is trying to build a core of leadership in this movement that is young.

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You had me right up until you said Gabbard may be the closest youā€™ll get to pure in politics. šŸ˜‚ Sheā€™s a liar. A fraud. A D who infiltrated unsuccessfully because people can see through her. Not sure why you would call her ā€œpureā€. Wow.

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I share your opinions on Gabbard, Sunnydaze.

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I didn't say pure - I said as close as you're going to get. Tell me why you think she's a liar and a fraud. I've followed her for years, and don't see that.

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I repeated what you said correctly.

When she switched to I (corrected from saying R originally) and she was exposed for being a WEF young global leader she tried to lie and said they used her picture on their poster without her permission and denied involvement with them. Because things on the interweb never go away I was able to pull up her very own tweet at the time they published that poster with her picture, where she thanked them for choosing her and how delighted she was to be part of them. No responsibility taken. I wouldā€™ve respected her more if sheā€™d just been honest and admit she didnā€™t realize what their organization was all about at that time but she renounces them now. She chose poorly.

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She is an independent, and has not switched parties; she left the Democrat party. She was affiliated with the WEF, but claims she no longer is. Over the last few years, I've seen enough from her that I believe she has learned from that mistake.

Everyone makes poor choices along their path. How you correct for them is what matters.

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Oops. Sorry. I meant independent. Thanks for the correction. I still know she flat out lied about her involvement with WEF. I have the tweet saved as a reminder that she lied about it. I donā€™t trust any politician. We only see and know what they want us to see and know, including Trump. Iā€™m well aware of his shortcomings too so Iā€™m not blind.

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Were her strong endorsement of the already senile Biden in 2020, her promotion of "climate change" and her pandemic-pumping, all "poor choices"?

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To be clear - when I say "followed", I mean "have watched".

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I had my eye on her too, for a while. I thought there might be some promising things about her. Until there werenā€™t. šŸ˜

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jeez...she's what, mid 40's and you are already writing her off?!?!

Remember, Trump was a Democrat who call Republicans stupid a while back. Reagan was initially a Democrat. Abraham Lincoln was a failure at just about everything he tried until he became President. Einstein was considered to be "not that bright" by his teachers and worked as a patent clerk when he started. Fred Astaire was labeled "can't act, can't sing, can dance a little".

Never trust any politician fully, but never think they can't change either.

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Why?

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No, I really don't, except that he's on the right side of the political spectrum. Typically, the right requires someone to "pay their dues".

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Heā€™s young, smart, not much of a history to attack & easy to train

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I hadn't heard that stuff about him, I am focusing on the good things. If Romney hates him that is a good sign.

But Blackrock is bad.

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Oh, for crying out loud, just stop it! People like you WILL get us President Harris (and VP Clinton).

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People like Kathy are a plant.

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No theyā€™re not. Iā€™m suspicious of Vance. He called Trump, Hitler. Like the Hitler who was one of the most evil men to ever walk the earth. And now heā€™s done a 180 bc itā€™s politically expedient. If youā€™re not cynical itā€™s because you have no knowledge of the past

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Letā€™s be fair - Vance made that comment in 2016 while he was in Law School at Yale. Do you not think he may have shifted his views watching what Trump accomplished during his first term? Especially as he got removed himself from the liberal haven at Yale?

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Yes, plant. Agree Alison.

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I think the point is more uniparty.

Study this. The connections arenā€™t lies. Nations and Presidents arenā€™t running the world. Itā€™s globalists/ corporate and bankers.

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2024/07/investigative-reports/the-man-behind-trumps-vp-pick-its-worse-than-you-think/?

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Thank you for this link. Whitney Webb does a good job, researching deep. I'll save this with Corey Lynn's "Who are They?"

https://www.coreysdigs.com/global/who-is-they/

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I agree with this. That's why I'm interested in RFK Jr this time

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The American establishment oligarchs are forming ranks against the US intelligence Deep State who represent the Global Liberal Banking Financiers who want to destroy America for profit. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." This is what's happening. This is why Trump picked "unknown" Vance. Lines are drawn and the war is coming out of the back rooms and is being engaged. We are spectators.

Ideologies aside, the question that confronts America's oligarchs is "On which side is my bread buttered?" The International Banking Globalists along with the US Intelligence Deep State are hell bent on destroying America. We all see it. And so do America's oligarchs who want to save America. This is now a war for survival and the only way to survive is to lay aside differences and join ranks. Lines are being drawn in the sand and there is no neutrality. And it will prolly involve us as well because it will most likely get ugly.

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I'll give you one guess on which side of the line the billionaire Soros will stand.

Darn, he beat me to it! He stands with the Laughing Hyena. May he be destroyed and lose his father's fortune in the ensuing war, Amen!

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Connect the dotsā€¦ Boy Soros is married to Huma, who is connected to Hillary. If you think Hillary is going to accept VP under Harris, forget it. Cat fight incoming.

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this is how the power factions are fighting it out...Trump and sons were right in saying that the Assassin Plotters were simply an extension of the operations against them for the last 9 years...they finally pulled the trigger on the head shot plot and a half second earlier or later would have ended the MAGA-Trump alliance in the Republican Party.

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Phil ... destroy the intelligence apparatus. That would be the intelligent thing to do.

And say, what a wild frenzy of Automatic Auto-Pilot Buy-ins going on today. Like, we know what we know what we don't know know? It's made me dizzy.

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Not nervous about Trump. At all.

Annoyed with fear-mongers like you.

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You've got to be kidding. You saw his horrible choices during 1.0.

Looks to be even worse in 2.0!

https://nypost.com/2024/07/20/business/the-odd-yet-interesting-choice-of-who-trump-may-tap-to-be-his-treasury-secretary/

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Read today's Don Surber substack column to fully understand the Vance VP pick. He and C&C are my two go-to sources for solid info.

https://open.substack.com/pub/donsurber/p/the-testosterone-ticket?r=nbl2d&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&comments=true

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Thank you for the link!

My favorite line, lol:

''This is not 3-D chess. Vance can replace a Johnny ring. Trump can buy you a golden toilet.''

Yes, women like handymen! (And men who obviously listen to their wives in their private lives about personal things, which is obvious from the RNC speeches.) So.

I loved the substack for a perspective I hadn't thought of yet.

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An interesting read, thanks

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Surber is good...he is one of those old-time newspaper guys who actually did reporting with facts.

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Excellent substack. Thanks for the post.

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Well written piece with a lot of good information on Thiel. Thank you for the link.

May Trump and Vance remain their own men...

Especially Vance.

Trump is slowing down the inevitable maybe. With God's help, maybe more than that.

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Kathy, I just did a podcast on this yesterday! Everyone should be scared of Vance: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-metaphysical-ritual-of-voting

He is not good.

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Well, I guess you have to vote for Kamala then. Or not vote. Your choice.

If you only accept perfection, I donā€™t think Jesus is running.

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I have been looking at Kennedy - it's a centrist ticket but I have been familiar with Kennedy's work for 20+ years because of the vaccine issue and he seems to be very courageous, honest, and willing to change his mind if the facts support it.

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He is for late term abortion even after birth; he hates all guns; he is a Climate darling; he's against drilling, fracking, nukes; wants to fund WHO and Israel, and loves taxes. What we get: he is hoping vaccines will be made more safely.

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Is Anyone Good ??????????

how's this for a nightmare : picture yourself standing in a large room surrounded by all

these "power seeking people" . how does your skin feel ?

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RFKJR is good, but good doesn't stand a chance in a city of vipers.

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You think he would get assassinated?

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He has had a few serious threats, and that kindly old man Bidone (sarcasm) refused him secret service protection until the day after Trump's almost assassination.

Considering the legacy of assassination on his family, Biden's lack of consideration to his official requests was one of pure malice.

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Too true. War is ruthless.

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"Is anyone good."

No. "None is righteous, no, not one." Romans 3:10

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So mzlizzi, what's the solution? I'm serious, what exactly are people supposed to do with your perpetual fearmongering, vote for Harris?

It astounds me how many supposed conservatives just cannot enjoy the moment and must spoil everything with their doom and gloom, even when they can do NOTHING about it. You are absolutely powerless, Vance may be the Manchurian Candidate himself but there is nothing you can do about it. NOTHING. So instead of just accepting it you must come here and try and bring down everyone else.

Seriously, delete Conservative Treehouse from your reading list and just try and enjoy life. You'll be happier for sure.

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Fair enough, I retract the word perpetual and replace it with incessant. I get it from your previous posts.

You didn't address my points at all. Like it or not, Vance is the VP nominee. Like it or not, Trump-Vance is the ticket. Like it or not, we have to win with these guys in November. There is nothing you or anyone else can do about those facts. So what good does it do to attack Vance based on rumor and speculation? What is the purpose other than to demoralize people?

And no I'm not accusing you or anyone else of intentionally trying to demoralize people, but that you have not thought this through. We are stuck with both of these guys for good or bad. Constant worrying over things *outside one's control* destroys mental health and makes people unhappy. Add to this the worry is entirely based on rumor and speculation with no conclusive evidence. Then on top if it, there is no solution. None, zero, nada. Even if it's 100% true, there is nothing you, I, or anyone here can do to fix it.

So people worry, fret, and cause themselves anguish over something they are powerless to influence. That's the basis of Trump Derangement Syndrome also, and look what it's done to the left. They are the most miserable people on the planet. I don't want to see that for you or anyone else here. Jesus spoke on this in Luke 12:22-34.

Yes, we should be wary and we yes we should judge people based on their actions not words. But we can do that without worry and doom-saying.

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Many times, not always here, I have asked people to describe the difference between what they say and what our political opponents would say, if they wanted to demoralize our side.

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Remember Admiral Rogers? Obama and the deep state trusted him so much they put him in charge of the NSA, the agency that has ALL of the communications worldwide, so all of the dirt. As a refresher, as soon as Trump won the Presidency, Rogers left the building, told no one, drove himself to Trump Towers, got admitted, and after going somewhere secure, proceeded to show him that indeed he had been spied upon by the deep state for a long time, and it was ongoing.

I don't know if Vance is a sleeper, a convert, White Hat, Black Hat. Anybody who thinks they know for sure is delusional. Timing is everything, and the main reason this is all taking so long is to flush out all of the deep cover sleepers. Banter back and forth all you want, but at the end of the day, no-one can say for sure what is going on.

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His balls need to be in MAGA's tight grip...never trust or relax around these young rising political stars who were created and promoted and have had celebrity biographies pave the way for advancement. Sure he's a team player and at least we don't have Vivek himself, Gabbard, or other lesser choice, but "Vance" needs to know he's not deified by the Rep base

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I respect your opinions and in sights. Your comment has been noted.

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Trump 2.0 is going to be as frustrating as 1.0.

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All I care about is someone stopping WW3.

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Right now all I care about is closing the border and stopping inflation, and ending our proxy war with Russia.

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Next rumors: Pelosi as Secretary of State, and Mayor Pete as Secretary of Defense.

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Jared Kushner for chief of staff. Oh wait, he already is.

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Jared is a twit.

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Unfortunately, a lot of commenters here don't care at all. They won't question it. They may even go so far as to make excuses or do mental gymnastics to somehow justify it.

Drain the swamp in order to get to the scum at the bottom to appoint into his cabinet!

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Are you sure you are not a Democrat??

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ā€œNot in our handsā€ became perfectly clear when DJT had his head moved by the only hand that matters.

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Yes, local is the only real solution that will last. Don't know why people don't know that you have to pay attention to politics in a republic...

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The Dems knew that no amount of cheating would make a Biden win believable . Now we need to pray Lara Trump and the RNC have their ducks in a row to handle the cheating that the Democrats will need to do now. Pray pray pray.

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This is a good point. A certain amount of cheating would be believable with an entirely different candidate. But not Harris. They have to replace her for any cheating to be obfuscated

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Enter Big Mike.

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I am recommending to everyone to take a photo of their completed ballot - don't know if it will help but worth doing.

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Why? You'll never see it again anyway.

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I loved Ron DeSantis' comments about Kamala stepping in as the Demoncrat nominee, "Democrats are just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic."

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And we heard Red Wave in 2022. Didnā€™t happen. Not one major politician will acknowledge the 2020 election was stolen. The mockingbird press certainly hasnā€™t and wonā€™t. What makes us think 2024 will be different. If you repeat a lie often enough, no one remembers the truth.

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I loved RFKs news conference - he hit home a couple of major points:

1) Biden and Trump are the two most responsible for our $30+ trillion dollar deficit, which is why neither of them talk about it or have a plan as to how to fix it.

2) They both have no plan to address our chronic illness in this country which is so out of control it costs far more than does our military budget.

Instead, more of the same, and Trump is now talking about appointing swamp creatures Larry Find and Jamie Dimon. Just mind boggling his supporters can't see the reality right in front of their faces.

I hope RFK gets some media time and into the debates so we can actually talk about and address some of these issues.

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RFK says some great things, but some of his views are equally terrible. He is an eco-fanatic. He also supports killing babies up until birth (yes, he does). He's right about the financial situation, but what is his plan for fixing it? He wants us to be a socialist country in the image of Sweden but we are far too heterogenous a country for that to conceivably work. Finally, he apparently doesn't treat women very well. The circumstances surrounding the death of his second wife are very, very troubling. You're right, though. A debate with him in it would be helpful. Let everyone put their cards on the table.

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He isn't a socialist. He embraces capitalism and in fact uses it as an example of how to clean up the environment. And having a clean and healthy environment doesn't make you eco-fanatic, it makes you intelligent because it is what supports all life on the planet. He talks about reducing pollution and restoring soil health.

He actually had Dane Wiggington on his program to discuss geoengineering. I've never heard any other POTUS candidate talk about this issue.

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Johnny-O, you clearly know more about RFK and his platform, so I will defer to you. I'm curious, does he advocate for a replacement of fossil fuels with renewables? For me, that is one of the tell-tale signs of eco-fanaticism. I want clean air, water and replenished soil. I have no beef against any of that. I just don't want humans painted as "the problem" and therefore the elimination of them as "the solution." I may be attributing things to him that of which he is not guilty.

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He has changed his tune on the climate change narrative. I don't see him ushering in some green new deal crap. Solutions are actually quite easy and have been implemented all over the world to regenerate healthy ecosystems. We just have to quit poisoning everything and engaging in poor farming practices. I grew up on farms and this is something I do have knowledge in. When the water can make frogs change sexes, is it time for a conversation about cleaning up our water? I would say so. Big Ag is pretty damn powerful though, and all these mega multinationals are owned by the same handful of companies, and ultimately vanguard and blackrock, who Trump intends to bring into his inner circle. The outlook is not good.

Disclaimer - I don't really trust Kennedy either, but at least he talks about issues that nobody else is touching.

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I listened to RFK Jr on a podcast called Meateaters. Two guys who are big hunters and have all kinds of recipes on preparing all kinds of meats. RFK Jr. Spent the first 10 minutes explaining how he got mercury poisoning, misdiagnosed as a brain tumor, from eating fish he caught from being ā€œout on the waterā€ every day. He lamented how sad it was his grandkids would never know the joys of fishing because a comprehensive scientific study found dangerous levels of mercury in every kind of fish. Then he went on to say he had gotten Lymeā€™s disease from ticks and being out in the woods, EVERY DAY.

Itā€™s a wonder he had time to do anything else. I like RFK Jr, but heā€™s still Liberal and until he calls all this Green Deal, the money laundering it is, Iā€™m not buying what heā€™s selling.

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Actually he has and also that it leads to tyranny as a way to control people. His "green" platform consists of promoting regenerative agriculture which is a way to restore soils and eliminating government subsidies on energy and letting the free market win. He is a free market capitalist. But he also wants corporations responsible to pay to clean up or eliminate the pollution they cause - that will also affect their profitability.

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RFK is no fiscal conservative. LOL. There'd be another green new steal under him, and the economy would further languish.

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And where did you find this information? It certainly isn't on his website.

What you can find are recent comments about Trump wanting to appoint swamp scum like Larry Fink and Jamie Dimon into his administration, and RFK calling it out. But I'm sure Q has a plan for all that, right!

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Ouch!

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Then the attendant of the man of God arose early and went out, and behold, a military force with horses and chariots was all around the city. And his young man said to him, ā€œAlas, my master! What shall we do?ā€ So he said, ā€œDo not fear, for those who are with us are more than those who are with them.ā€ Then Elisha prayed and said, ā€œO Yahweh, I pray, open his eyes that he may see.ā€ And Yahweh opened the eyes of the young man and he saw; and behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha.

. . .

So they [the four lepers] arose at twilight to go to the camp of the Arameans. Then they came to the outskirts of the camp of the Arameans, but behold, there was no one there. Now the Lord had caused the camp of the Arameans to hear a sound of chariots and a sound of horses, even the sound of a great military force, so that they said to one another, ā€œBehold, the king of Israel has hired against us the kings of the Hittites and the kings of the Egyptians, to come upon us.ā€ Therefore they arose and fled in the twilight, and forsook their tents and their horses and their donkeys, even the camp just as it was, and fled for their life.

ā€” 2 Kings 6:15-17; 7:5-7 LSB

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Several examples of God being able to do the impossible have been leaping out at me. We serve a God without limits.

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Absolute power and authority.

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Great reminder.

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ā€”ā€œJoe broke up with America over text message.ā€

This was the way I thought about it too!

Side note, maybe itā€™s already been mentioned, I havenā€™t read the comments yet, but Bidenā€™s announcement happened to occur on National Ice Cream Day too!! šŸ˜¬

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That's how you KNOW it was under duress! He would have never overshadowed such a high holy day unless he was forced to!

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ā€œHigh holy dayā€ šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£

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No way?

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Really!! Itā€™s true!! šŸ˜‚šŸ˜† Our local ice cream shop even had a special going on yesterday for it!

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Poetic!

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Yep, he ghosted us.

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It could not possibly be Kamala. It would be fun to watch, but they have had something brewing for a long time. Do you think Kamala is bright enough to not go paddleboarding on Martha's Vineyard? šŸ˜Ž

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I donā€™t think thatā€™s a choice you have. Like shooting yourself multiple times to commit ā€˜suicide,ā€™ if they want you dead, youā€™re dead

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Has not worked on their arch enemy so far!

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Apparently, they sent in the clowns.

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On Saturday there were three ladies outside of the coffee shop proudly displaying their Biden/Harris signs. The young one had a cloth mask on of course. Bless their hearts.

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Mask wearing outside is a sure sign of mental illness.

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Oh dear šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø

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As a tribute to Joe Biden's greatest accomplishments, I propose that his Presidential Library be built either in Kyiv or Kabul.

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The Gaza Strip's going to be looking for something fancy.

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Biden had 6 mRNA shots. It was covered on thehighwire.com last week, in which they showed a compilation of Biden from 2019-now and followed his decline after taking each of the šŸ’‰šŸ’‰šŸ’‰šŸ’‰šŸ’‰šŸ’‰. The question in the air of course was, did the shots facilitate his quick neurological decline.

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Not convinced they gave him the real stuff.

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I agree!

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Heā€™s had dementia the entire time. Pre COVID, I suspect

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My question is why did they give the bad lot # injections to Biden(if they didšŸ™„) and DJT doesnā€™t appear to have gotten the bad lot #ā€™ed (yetšŸ™„)ā€¦

I do believe SOME people in the background knew before the roll out that a subset of injections (~1/3) wouldnā€™t do much damageā€¦ People that were not voted in.

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Even if they don't know what caused his mental decline...know this...it is NOT the shot.

Many healthcare 'professionals' will not dare to bite the hand that feeds them. There is a better chance in their eyes it would be the toxic fumes from sniffing the heads of too many girls using harmful shampoos and conditioners. šŸ™„ They will never speak the truth.

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And his mental decline was already obvious before the shots, but progressed much further after them.

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The new Dem message is going to be ā€œDonald Trump is the oldest man to run for president in the history of the USā€. Book it.

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Absolutely agree.

That's the reason all the Dem and media "concerns" about Biden's condition focused on his "age" rather than his obvious full-blown dementia.

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They already started.....

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yes, however Pelosi is older and likely been running the show for the last 3.5 years.

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At 2:08 pm yesterday, I knew youā€™d come through with an early post! Thank you always, Jeff Childers!

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Ditto

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I don't know if calling for the 25th Amendment is the best strategy. It gives Kamala the opportunity to look presidential, and we all know the same people pulling the strings of Biden will be running the government for Kamala. It's not going to make our government stronger and might help Kamala against Trump. Also, we might as well hold our fire against Kamala until she's the actual nominee. She'd be much easier to defeat than someone like Joe Manchin or Josh Shapiro, so let's not beat her up until we know she's the person we have to beat.

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As someone pointed out to me the 25th requires the cooperation of the full cabinet which hasnā€™t met in the last nine months. Do you really think that bunch of pansies is going to vote against Joe ?

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But there is a "backdoor." Instead of the cabinet, another body "... as Congress may by law provide" can make the determination. But such a law would require Biden's agreement, which won't happen. So basically you're right.

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I have to ask myself, who would be insurance to Joe's insurance?

Will they go all steam ahead and pick a drag queen or full on transperson for VP?

Maybe a furry?

I don't put anything past them at this point.

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I think the VP pick--or possibly the nominee if Kamala is rejected--will be someone that seems more moderate. They aren't stupid; they know the mood of the country is trending against DEI, trans rights, and the invasion of our country. I believe they will look to a white man who appears to be to the right of Kamala/Biden. But I certainly hope I'm wrong.

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Latest scuttlebutt is it will be Obama as VP with Harris, and I donā€™t mean Big Mike. Is there a law that a former President cannot be VP? I donā€™t think so. Heā€™s running this whole charade anyway, which is why it has been a total fustercluckā€¦

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He could be VP, but in the event his president is incapacitated, he would not qualify to be next in line, would have to skip him.

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I read that he could be VP even though most say the VP has to be eligible to step in and be President if necessary and he's termed out of that -- that there is an alternate reading that he could be VP and if there was incapacity on the part of the President, continuity of government would put the speaker of the house in place as President.

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Someone did float Buttegieg (however you spell his name) which seems the PERFECT pic to me. Do it!

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You're hysterical. Kamala couldn't look presidential if her life depended on it. I hope they 25th him and get her in ASAP so people recognize her for the absolute foolish joke she is before the election.

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They can always 25th her in a week or two

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I thought the same. Do not give her the presidency. It could her chances better to win but look at President Ford. It didnā€™t help him.

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