It's definitely not over. My 18 year fire career is over. WA state ended their mandate, most departments have started bringing people back, however City of Redmond WA(home to Microsoft world HQ) has refused to bring any of the 300 years of combined service people back. We all had approved religious exemptions and she still fired us.
It's definitely not over. My 18 year fire career is over. WA state ended their mandate, most departments have started bringing people back, however City of Redmond WA(home to Microsoft world HQ) has refused to bring any of the 300 years of combined service people back. We all had approved religious exemptions and she still fired us.
I’m so sorry. I also live in Washington state and lost my job not because of the federal mandate but because the company I have been with for 25 years decided to mandate it. I’m very familiar with the fight over the Redmond fire department and so disappointed with, how woke and crazy the state has gotten. It’s such a beautiful place but we really need to change the political culture here, and we really need to get rid of it Governor Inslee. I can’t even listen when he talks, he makes me feel sick, and he will never acknowledge how bad these mandates and jabs have been or what he’s done to the state. God bless🙏
Same with the Biden polls. All the polls I've seen show Biden's approval at 40 to 45%. This cements my belief that there is no "going back". If the average person really is that divided, then the only way forward is a division or separation of the blue states and the liberty states. They can keep the Feds and good luck trying to fund the Bolshevik Feds after the productive liberty states pull out.
I am sort of like your wife, except I thought 'ruining.' However, and since covid, I now 'begrudgingly' think 'extinguishing' ... as in wiping out vast tracts of humanity. And I echo your the "evidence is clear."
I’m sorry. The West side of Washington is still under the Covid spell. So much needs to change here. I just returned from a trip to Montana and Idaho and as soon as we came into Seattle the mask’s started to show up.
A spell is accurate. The aggression and hate is strong there. We had to move. Our kids were getting it the worst from people knowing I refused, kids couldn't even ride bikes outside w/o heckling.
It takes inclement weather to find out who one's "fair weather friends are." Don't make the (IMO) mistake of forgiving them. They've done you a valuable service by showing their true colors.
We live in CA and we stayed in Montana for 3 months fall of 2020. We spend every summer in Montana. ID, MT and WY stayed normal through all of the craziness. When you leave the "left" coast, people act normal and are not fanatical crazies! Eastern Oregon and Eastern Washington, except Spokane and Bend, are just like Montana and Wyoming. We live in a rural part of CA, so it was not as bad as some parts of CA. Still some masking here as people are walking outside. Or riding in cars. 😵💫 The fly over states give us hope that maybe there are still normal people out there! I am blessed to be able to take my kids away from here in the summer. And we home school, so that helps too. They get to see that people can live and not be afraid all the time!
100%, it's not easy loosing a career I fought for, but I firmly believe God closed that door for a reason. With that there must be a new door that will open.
I truly feel for you. Over a shot. Most firefighters went into the field because they love it and fought to get in. My husband tried to get in for 8 years and never got a FT. Only seasonal. So I know that walking away is like a passion dying. :(
I hear you Scott. I wasn’t fired, I left my nursing job I loved after 18 years on principle. The religious exemptions was pure hypocrisy & as a person of faith, I had to prove it to THEM by writing a 9 page dissertation on why I believe it violates my beliefs & faith in Christ ? On the way to my decision I watched the healthcare field start to crumble into something other than caring for others. That isn’t who I am. I was blessed to be retired Air Force, as well as my husband and he supported my decision to get out. God Bless you and as the false narrative of covid withers on the vine I hope everyone fights with a vengeance to get your jobs back. We’re going to need all the pure bloods !
Thank you, we have a strong faithful lady that has taken on the fight for all of us. She's exhausted, one of the only lawyers in WA willing to fight, she is representing all of us. King County Courts had their own mandates which makes it difficult to argue with an open mind and ear.
Not sure if there is a link. She works for PJI, pacific Justice institute, her name is Tracey Tribbett. She is a warrior. Lost her husband, single mother with a a burning desire to protect others...The courts have made her represent us individually vs as a group (so far) so she is being pulled thin...I will ask her if there is a link or info people can look into the fight.
Oh, Calvary Chapel of San Jose, of course! I've followed their cases and prayed for them for 2 years. Every church that stayed open experienced huge growth because they were so needed. I wish I could share the photo of Jeff at the Idaho conference. He's in front of a backdrop with his quote "Churches failed at their first opportunity to minister to those possessed by the Spirit of Fear for the first two years of the pandemic".
That is horrible. I’m so sorry for what you’ve had to go through because of these idiots. I hope you can get restitution for this travesty some day! I felt like the tide is turning.
Scott, God bless you. I live in Redmond. I grew up here and stayed. Living here through Covid was the darkest period of my life. I emailed the city about one year ago asking them how they can be so cruel to fire firefighters, especially knowing that the vaxx doesn’t stop transmission....no response of course. I would like to support you; where can I give or how can I help? I would happily show up to public meetings to comment. If you and your family want some new friends, my husband and I volunteer!
I’m sure a less crazy department will hire a you. After firing a bunch of their firefighters, Bellingham recently offered all of them their jobs back. Trouble is, Ferndale (just north of Bellingham) allowed vax exemptions so they hired all the fired Bellingham firefighters and now Bellingham is short staffed. I don’t feel very sorry for them either. Just saying.
Thank you for speaking up regarding this. I believe that all state employees will be required to take 2 shots and 1 boost as of July for King Inslee. As a school district employee (also in KingCo) we have been mandated thanks to OSPI and fortunately I was accommodated, but I know it’s only a matter of time before the Administration will see me as being expendable and not ‘essential’.
But, they aren't rehiring the people they fired? Happened to a friend of mine, and he got a new job in eastern Washington, but lost his pension after working over 20 years for the state.
Some Departments have started rehiring, most actually. Redmond said they would not bring anyone back that was terminated over the vax. Said the mandate lift lift is only for current and future employees not those terminated...the saddest part is the ones who took the jab in fear. Now the mandates lifted but they can't get rid of the shot, it's a lifelong decision and they are angry
That is sad for him, glad he landed somewhere else though.
Most places have started to rehire. Redmond refused. Mayor said the mandate lift is only for current and future employees not for terminated. She's evil
Is it bad that my first thought after hearing her stance is that I hope her house burns down and no one is there to save it? God forgive me, but it is really hard not to think that these people’s decisions should come back on them somehow!
He owns everything on the Eastside of Seattle. As the safety chairman and a Lieutenant I can tell you some crazy stories about their world HQ there....for instance the November before Covid hit here in the states their corporation ordered an abundant amount of PPE, they don't use that stuff and they went remote....?
It's definitely not over. My 18 year fire career is over. WA state ended their mandate, most departments have started bringing people back, however City of Redmond WA(home to Microsoft world HQ) has refused to bring any of the 300 years of combined service people back. We all had approved religious exemptions and she still fired us.
I’m so sorry. I also live in Washington state and lost my job not because of the federal mandate but because the company I have been with for 25 years decided to mandate it. I’m very familiar with the fight over the Redmond fire department and so disappointed with, how woke and crazy the state has gotten. It’s such a beautiful place but we really need to change the political culture here, and we really need to get rid of it Governor Inslee. I can’t even listen when he talks, he makes me feel sick, and he will never acknowledge how bad these mandates and jabs have been or what he’s done to the state. God bless🙏
Sadder yet is how many people think he's doing a good job. I sometimes read the comments section in some Seattle Times articles. Makes me sick.
Same with the Biden polls. All the polls I've seen show Biden's approval at 40 to 45%. This cements my belief that there is no "going back". If the average person really is that divided, then the only way forward is a division or separation of the blue states and the liberty states. They can keep the Feds and good luck trying to fund the Bolshevik Feds after the productive liberty states pull out.
I feel the same about Gov Newsom. Sick. Nauseated. Cant listen
That woman is crazy and I'm so sorry. Exactly who does she think will show up qualified in your place? These covidiots are ruining society.
I think that’s the point?
My wife thought I was hyperbolic to claim 'ruining our society' is their goal.
Now she begrudgingly agrees. Evidence is clear.
I am sort of like your wife, except I thought 'ruining.' However, and since covid, I now 'begrudgingly' think 'extinguishing' ... as in wiping out vast tracts of humanity. And I echo your the "evidence is clear."
I’m sorry. The West side of Washington is still under the Covid spell. So much needs to change here. I just returned from a trip to Montana and Idaho and as soon as we came into Seattle the mask’s started to show up.
A spell is accurate. The aggression and hate is strong there. We had to move. Our kids were getting it the worst from people knowing I refused, kids couldn't even ride bikes outside w/o heckling.
It takes inclement weather to find out who one's "fair weather friends are." Don't make the (IMO) mistake of forgiving them. They've done you a valuable service by showing their true colors.
Just like the Nazis and Bolsheviks. Used children and enormous peer pressure to get people to fall into line.
That is awful. What they have done to our country is awful.
Biden and his band of merry wokesters has divided us, just as planned.
Wow Scott. That is just horrible. What great state did you move to?
That is so horrible! People are insane.
Oh my... God Bless, hope you found a safe haven.
If the clot shots work as intended, a couple of years will clear out the place. Then you can move back.
You said the quiet part out loud. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
We live in CA and we stayed in Montana for 3 months fall of 2020. We spend every summer in Montana. ID, MT and WY stayed normal through all of the craziness. When you leave the "left" coast, people act normal and are not fanatical crazies! Eastern Oregon and Eastern Washington, except Spokane and Bend, are just like Montana and Wyoming. We live in a rural part of CA, so it was not as bad as some parts of CA. Still some masking here as people are walking outside. Or riding in cars. 😵💫 The fly over states give us hope that maybe there are still normal people out there! I am blessed to be able to take my kids away from here in the summer. And we home school, so that helps too. They get to see that people can live and not be afraid all the time!
I’m sorry, Scott.
Perhaps this is an opportunity, from God, to be placed in a better position?
100%, it's not easy loosing a career I fought for, but I firmly believe God closed that door for a reason. With that there must be a new door that will open.
Absolutely. He led you to that decision. If he led you to it, he’ll bring you through it. It may not be in your timing but continue to have faith.
I truly feel for you. Over a shot. Most firefighters went into the field because they love it and fought to get in. My husband tried to get in for 8 years and never got a FT. Only seasonal. So I know that walking away is like a passion dying. :(
Yes, I fought hard for it , worked hard at it. Then they took it away. Silly
I hear you Scott. I wasn’t fired, I left my nursing job I loved after 18 years on principle. The religious exemptions was pure hypocrisy & as a person of faith, I had to prove it to THEM by writing a 9 page dissertation on why I believe it violates my beliefs & faith in Christ ? On the way to my decision I watched the healthcare field start to crumble into something other than caring for others. That isn’t who I am. I was blessed to be retired Air Force, as well as my husband and he supported my decision to get out. God Bless you and as the false narrative of covid withers on the vine I hope everyone fights with a vengeance to get your jobs back. We’re going to need all the pure bloods !
God Bless you for your faith and courage.
A new door will Open, keep the Faith.
Funny, South Dakota has come up a lot lately...Would live to hear more
I live in the Black Hills, Scott. Beautiful area and very friendly people. The western part of the state is the best.
Hi Mary. I live in Western SD too. Moved to the Black HIlls two years ago.
If you all ever get a legal motion going to address this let us know here, as it will be supported.
Thank you, we have a strong faithful lady that has taken on the fight for all of us. She's exhausted, one of the only lawyers in WA willing to fight, she is representing all of us. King County Courts had their own mandates which makes it difficult to argue with an open mind and ear.
Perhaps try to reach Jeff on this, and he can maybe do a support drive.
So many have felt powerless by these events.
I would love to just hear his take and try to assist our lawyer. She is under drive almost daily, I feel for her.
Is she attending the conference this weekend? I’m sure that kind of networking and support would be very helpful!
Under attack
Hi Scott, FYI, the three dots give an"edit" feature. Essential for us fat fingered folk on smart phones.
Thank you, this is definitely not my forte
I'd love to hear more about her efforts, can you give us a link? I am just craving info on any cases that are fighting for justice.
Not sure if there is a link. She works for PJI, pacific Justice institute, her name is Tracey Tribbett. She is a warrior. Lost her husband, single mother with a a burning desire to protect others...The courts have made her represent us individually vs as a group (so far) so she is being pulled thin...I will ask her if there is a link or info people can look into the fight.
I love PJI, I'll look her up and see what I can find. I support them, too, so that means my money is helping her, too, which is super encouraging.
This substack, from David Zweig’s Silent Lunch, is about injustice in Santa Clara county, northern CA:
https://davidzweig.substack.com/p/when-a-renegade-church-and-a-zealous?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=web
Oh, Calvary Chapel of San Jose, of course! I've followed their cases and prayed for them for 2 years. Every church that stayed open experienced huge growth because they were so needed. I wish I could share the photo of Jeff at the Idaho conference. He's in front of a backdrop with his quote "Churches failed at their first opportunity to minister to those possessed by the Spirit of Fear for the first two years of the pandemic".
Same!
These are the people that should be sued. Hopefully this covid law convention will get the ball rolling.
That is horrible. I’m so sorry for what you’ve had to go through because of these idiots. I hope you can get restitution for this travesty some day! I felt like the tide is turning.
Scott, God bless you. I live in Redmond. I grew up here and stayed. Living here through Covid was the darkest period of my life. I emailed the city about one year ago asking them how they can be so cruel to fire firefighters, especially knowing that the vaxx doesn’t stop transmission....no response of course. I would like to support you; where can I give or how can I help? I would happily show up to public meetings to comment. If you and your family want some new friends, my husband and I volunteer!
I’m sure a less crazy department will hire a you. After firing a bunch of their firefighters, Bellingham recently offered all of them their jobs back. Trouble is, Ferndale (just north of Bellingham) allowed vax exemptions so they hired all the fired Bellingham firefighters and now Bellingham is short staffed. I don’t feel very sorry for them either. Just saying.
Thank you for speaking up regarding this. I believe that all state employees will be required to take 2 shots and 1 boost as of July for King Inslee. As a school district employee (also in KingCo) we have been mandated thanks to OSPI and fortunately I was accommodated, but I know it’s only a matter of time before the Administration will see me as being expendable and not ‘essential’.
In light of all of the syrupy “heroes” rhetoric regarding health care workers and school employees, this is even more disgusting.
First week of February they dropped the mandate. I'm happy you were accommodated
If this is what it takes Scott? Then so mote it be:
https://twitter.com/liz_churchill8/status/1639081704236232706?s=20
#StormTheBastille 🔥
Wow. This is just disgusting and shameful. I’m so sorry Scott!
Scott Carlson...I wish for you a governor like our wonderful Ron DeSantis. Florida is indeed blessed.
Has anyone filed a lawsuit against them?
Yes, we have filed. So far the courts keep kicking it back.
I don't think the Washington state employees mandate has ended. Am I wrong?
It has ended, it was lifted a few months back.
But, they aren't rehiring the people they fired? Happened to a friend of mine, and he got a new job in eastern Washington, but lost his pension after working over 20 years for the state.
Some Departments have started rehiring, most actually. Redmond said they would not bring anyone back that was terminated over the vax. Said the mandate lift lift is only for current and future employees not those terminated...the saddest part is the ones who took the jab in fear. Now the mandates lifted but they can't get rid of the shot, it's a lifelong decision and they are angry
The new Fifth Circuit ruling must help your case.
Sue them.
That is sad for him, glad he landed somewhere else though.
Most places have started to rehire. Redmond refused. Mayor said the mandate lift is only for current and future employees not for terminated. She's evil
Is it bad that my first thought after hearing her stance is that I hope her house burns down and no one is there to save it? God forgive me, but it is really hard not to think that these people’s decisions should come back on them somehow!
Check me if I wrong, but didn’t the ‘peaceful camps’ in downtown Seattle end when they started showing up on her doorstep?
Probably.
He owns everything on the Eastside of Seattle. As the safety chairman and a Lieutenant I can tell you some crazy stories about their world HQ there....for instance the November before Covid hit here in the states their corporation ordered an abundant amount of PPE, they don't use that stuff and they went remote....?
Wow 😳
?!!