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Based Florida Man's avatar

On a political note, I think that DeSantis is not going to attempt to challenge Trump for 2024 as some fumbles have caused a big gap with Trump having a huge lead now.

I'm actually relieved and prefer to keep Governor Ron focused on the state.

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Annie's avatar

I believe DeSantis leading governors and states against the federal monstrosity is where he will be at his most effective. I get the rinos want to stop Trump. DeSantis should say thanks but no thanks to lying Paul Ryan et al. As for a later future run for president, I would support him.

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daverkb's avatar

For me, DeSantis is too wobbly on his Ukraine remarks. Personally, I need someone to stand up to the NeoCons, the termite plague hollowing out Western World. All it would take is 'not in our national interest' and move right onto building up this country into a decent place to live and work and raise children. And in C & C today? Drilling for oil and pipelines sounded pretty good to me!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Yes. The correct answers by any pres candidate is 'no more overseas interventions, and drill baby drill'.

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Daily Growler's avatar

I believe you make good points. DeSantis seems to be a good governor and might best serve the nation in the near term by continuing to turn Florida into a good example for the nation. IMO he recently disqualified himself for president in 2024 by caving to neocon pressure and spouting the old "Russia is just a gas station posing as a country" trope. He said that in February 2021 and then didn't seem to talk about Ukraine until recently. (I assumed, apparently incorrectly, that this was because he realized that he didn't know enough about the subject to knowledgeably opine on it publicly.} Given his recent statements, I have concluded he currently lacks necessary understanding and backbone. I hope he grows more "character muscle" fast.

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daverkb's avatar

This really set me aback too! And how stupid is it to use a trite clown trope as in 'stupid is what stupid does'. And as to Russia, the alleged 'gas station' appears to be dancing circles around the Great Woke Empire whose only expertise lies in blowing up pipelines ... and not in building them!

And your second point regarding being out 'out of his depth' on policy considerations also hit me like a ton of bricks. I figure that the Cretins will run circles around the clueless ... and we certainly don't need more of that.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Is Paul Ryan still around??

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Annie's avatar

Yes. He is on the board of Fox News. Swamp creature and traitor. He did everything he could when in office to advance the uniparty agenda including working against Trump. He is the biggest reason for my concern about desantis. He endorsed Desantis which in itself is not a problem. Just I don't trust Paul Ryan at all. He's a traitor.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Unfortunately

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J Boss's avatar

And let Trump go do what he does best - be the bull in the china shop and break things! Only break them more bigly this time!

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Annie's avatar

The election of Trump blew the minds of the uniparty. And the republican wing of that party doesn't want him back. He can rip them new ones and further break them down.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

exactly! Bull in china shop lets go!

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Sharon's avatar

Best comment ever !!! 🙌🏼

Trump IS the bull in the elite “good ole boys (and girls)” china closet !

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David A's avatar

I agree as I think "State Rights" are perhaps the most essential weapon in fighting the WEF crowd.

DC is already Mordor on the Potomac, yes?

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Mordor indeed!

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AM's avatar

Love what DeSantis is saying about CBDC. Voted for Trump twice but truly cannot stand him now. The jabs at DeSantis anger me deeply. I went from being 'meh' on DeSantis in 2018 to believing he's the best governor I've seen in my lifetime, having lived in Florida for over 20 years. We need real competence in leadership, not some fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants management style. I won't forget everything DeSantis did to mitigate covidianism. Nor will I forget everything Trump did to tee it up.

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Jen's avatar

I can get this...I was kind of split until recently I saw that he funded GAVI when he pulled us out of the WHO. Wow, so let the fox directly into the hen house, then. GAVI is Gates organization, how could he have not known better than to give him 1.6 billion of our tax dollars?

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AM's avatar

Good grief seriously 🤦‍♀️

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Jen's avatar

right? I was seriously very sad when I saw that because I DO like Trump quite a bit. He fights hard for us, I know he does. But this...I mean, Gates is evil incarnate. There is nothing good about that man.

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consuelo's avatar

Keep researching

trump. I voted twice for him also. But after so much reading I see him as just an actor in the Hegelian Dialectic. He also did much evil.

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Lincoln's avatar

As POTUS, one has to mitigate through issues and cannot always get a win-win. I am thinking many times the choice is between the lesser or two evils.

When I get sideways with Trump decisions, I ask myself, would Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton have made a better decision given the circumstances?

We can’t definitively know the answer...but I usually end up backing Trump. His record for good domestic and international decisions overall is the best of any POTUS we have had in my lifetime...unless we can bring back the other actor...Ronnie Reagan.

The Covid bioweapon disaster was a first for any POTUS...who would have done better fighting the Deep State?

We’ll never know.

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Fla Mom's avatar

And I'm not sure Reagan was better, in terms of what was actually accomplished. Trump's record on almost everything is amazing. I think his philosophy is to never admit error, but I do wish he'd be more assertive about the injections and what appears to be the plot behind them, along with the CBDC, the green agenda, etc.; all for control and submission.

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Politico Phil's avatar

True, although as an orator of American principles, Reagan was amazing which accounted for his 2 landslide victories. When he was first campaigning for office, he flew into the mid-west to meet with Gerald Ford. Reagan had an amazing team for his cabinet positions but when the meeting was over, George Bush was named his VP and Reagan's entire team with the exception of James Watts (and he didn't last long as Sec of Interior) was replaced with Bush team B. I knew right then and there, no matter how good Reagan was, the Neocon deep state was firmly in control. You don't get to be president without selling out or catching a bullet. That was the lesson of President Kennedy.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Very wise.

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

I respect some of the things Gates personally did. I admit I haven't read his biography. Yet I know that he and his fledgling Microsoft can take personal credit for Microsoft BASIC, one of the better operating systems of the late 1970s. That's why it was found on many of the very earliest home PCs in the late 70s early 80s. Gates's and Microsoft's later success can largely be laid to luck; in 1981 IBM picked his as the OS for their not-yet-released PC. It wasn't even their first choice.

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Jen's avatar

yeah, my issues with him are not so much about his Microsoft days, and more around his trying to reduce population, testing vaccines on African countries for years, messing with our food supply, bribing politicians to get our tax dollars, and then of course everything related to his adventures on Epstein Island. And I think he's working on hatching his next scamdemic right now.

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Andrea Leshok's avatar

He was the same at Microsoft. Look up what he did to all the people who actually did the work around him there and you'll see he's always been the same.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Gates is a monopolist, always has been. That is how he built his empire...on top of other people's ideas usually his naive employees who signed away their creative genius. At what point he developed his god-complex is beyond me.

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daverkb's avatar

Curious! What was IBM's first choice ... and why did they not go with it?

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Lincoln's avatar

As POTUS, one has to mitigate through issues and cannot always get a win-win. I am thinking many times the choice is between the lesser or two evils.

When I get sideways with Trump decisions, I ask myself, would Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton have made a better decision given the circumstances?

We can’t definitively know the answer...but I usually end up backing Trump. His record for good domestic and international decisions overall is the best of any POTUS we have had in my lifetime...unless we can bring back the other actor...Ronnie Reagan.

The Covid bioweapon disaster was a first for any POTUS...who would have done better fighting the Deep State?

We’ll never know.

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AM's avatar

Well DeSantis definitely did better in Florida. Granted it’s not on a national scale. But he was still in an executive role. He proved to have an amazing ability to analyze data and course-correct when he needed to.

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David A's avatar

Maybe, better, in what way.? Also DeSantis he did not have all the three letter agencies including the FBI and CIA, plus every RINO, plus the judicial system, and the MSM, all gunning for him and his family, and associates.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Remember history correctly, though. DeSantis was following the advice of his then Surgeon General, a true lefty, as are about 99% of everyone in Public Health. Who closed the beaches, for example? Was that counties or cities? I think it was close to November 2020 or so before DeSantis started really realizing, or at least acting on, the truth, and he had Kristi Noem as an example of someone taking the constitutional stand.

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AM's avatar

Another fact, that I only remember because I moved back to Palm Beach County in JULY 2020 - when we got here our beaches were open. I distinctly remember it because I live across from the beach and the very first night my spouse and I spent in our new home - we walked over there.

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Fla Mom's avatar

It was around spring break that they were closed, if I remember correctly. At the time, I said it made more sense to close the hotels and open the beaches.

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AM's avatar

And he let that surgeon general go, and brought in Ladapo, right? He showed way more ability to course correct than Trump ever did. To this day I’ve never heard Trump express course correction on any Covid policies. How do we know he wouldn’t do the same exact things again? Don’t shoot the messenger- I voted for him twice.

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Fla Mom's avatar

True, and he's done far more than that, once he figured things out. I'm not in either 'camp;' I voted for Trump twice and for DeSantis twice, and I'd be happy to see either Trump or DeSantis as President. Though I'd feel cheated out of DeSantis' last two years, and Trump was cheated out of his last four.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I voted for President Trump twice and he gets my vote again, dead or alive. RDS has earned all his titles, especially the Ron DeSanctimonius one. Chris Wallace was first to label him that after the gag worthy political ads his campaign put out for a very short run before the widespread reaction caused them to be pulled.

RDS=GWB at best or Mittens Romney/John McCain (McStain) if the intention of the GOPe is to deliberately lose.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Same here. I’d like to see their little feud disappear into the night with DeSantis focusing on Florida. There’s a lot more problems here than just protecting our rights and medical freedom. A LOT. He needs to stay focused on making Florida great by dealing with the insurance issues, healthcare in general but also the non-existent care and lack of support for people with special needs/disabilities and their caregivers, the education system and getting the schools here elevated, red tide is a big one I’m hearing more and more about, just to name a few. Don’t know what all the answers are for these issues, but they are getting worse everyday that he does not address them. 🤷‍♀️

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Willing Spirit's avatar

The feud is not really Trump vs. DeSantis. It’s Trump vs. the GOPe. Too bad DeSantis elected to align himself with the Globalists. He seemed to have potential, but that’s looking more and more like a media mirage.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Just one problem with that. If DeSantis is aligned with the Globalists then he has become a traitor to them by opposing the Gov't owned CBDC scheme. This is a lynch pin in their plans to subjugate America. Don't pay attention so much to what is said but rather to their actions. With this action, DeSantis has openly declared war on the Globalists and I can hear the grinding of teeth all the way from DAVOS because they know he can cause the liberty states to close ranks and follow him in a frontal assault against the Nazi/Bolshevik Neo-cons occupying the seats of power in DC. He is the Nation's Governor.

Trump is our President in Exile and the point man America will back to challenge the illegitimate usurpers in the White House who took control of the apparatus of power through a fraudulent election coup in 2020.

There are two fronts to this war and the enemy desperately wants to convince us that our enemy is each other and keep us divided against each other. This tactic will fail. Both Trump and DeSantis by now are fully aware what is involved in this war and who the real enemy is. This is not an election campaign for office. This is a war for the survival of a nation against a Nazi/Marxist enemy that has taken the hill and now occupies all the apparatus of power in this Gov't. Do you see the difference? Trump and DeSantis do.

Understand, we cannot win the election in 2024. The Dems control the elections and the ballot rigging will be even more thorough than in the last 3 election cycles. Have we learned nothing from 2020 and the 2022 Kari Lake "loss" in Arizona? They control the elections and the courts are AWOL. The problem the NWO Globalists have is the Constitutional Republican structure of the United States. This is not a top-down autocratic gov't. Per the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution, ALL POWER resides with the States and the people thereof. The Fed Gov't only has such power as is specifically delegated in the Constitution to the Fed Gov't by the States WITH THE CONSENT OF THE PEOPLE. If the States close ranks behind the leadership of DeSantis and Trump, the Neo-con Globalist Nazis will lose their control and will be routed from the City on the Hill they now occupy against the American people.

We must stand united and gird our loins for battle.

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Katrina the Hurricane's avatar

We NEED Desantis to keep Florida free. And I’m from Alabama saying that. Wish our Grandma Ivey would take some pointers.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I could be wrong but I don't think DeSantis had any intention of running for POTUS. I think he may have just been using this opportunity to build national recognition and standing. Intentionally or otherwise, he has established himself as the Nation's Governor and is in the position of leading the liberty states and governors against the Marxist Feds. He has already done this with the FL bill banning a Gov't controlled CBDC from FL... AND calling on other states to follow FL's lead.

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Politico Phil's avatar

BTW, we should realize this is EXTREMELY significant. The CBDC is *key* to the Bolsheviks' plan to impose TOTAL surveillance state control on all Americans. With that control, not one penny can be spent without their approval and such control can be used to completely control what we do and say. If they don't like what you are doing, they simply "turn off" all your money so you have zero access! The CBDC is their key lynch pin.....that and getting rid of the First and Second Amendment freedoms. They have done a pretty good job of negating the First Amendment rights. The only other thing standing in their way is the Second Amendment and the American people....and all their guns. Thank God there is A governor that is intentionally taking this fight "head-on". Now it is time for the other liberty states to follow suit.

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Freebird's avatar

I hope you’re right Phil! DeSantis would fit that role beautifully! And leave the conservative ticket to Trump with Kari Lake as running mate.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Eh. I like KarinLake but I personally don’t think a woman should be a VP.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I hope that’s correct and all this feuding non sense is just noise to distract us more and cause more infighting. We really do gotta pull our heads out of our arses and stop falling for their deceptive tactics. The media blew DeSantis up and pitted Trump and him against each other. It’s unfortunate that Trump drove it home and DeSantis started to play ball with him. But was that merely part of the game? Who knows.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

I agree, BFM. DeSantis’ polling numbers have been going down in the past 3 months. DJT’s majority will be a daunting task to overcome. DeSantis is not as well-known in the rest of the country. He will gain more visibility as time goes on at which time he will become a force to be reckoned with. Meanwhile, I hope he declines more donations from the RINOs in the uni-party. They are as disrespected as the Democrats.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I’ve seen it before, but after reading the Twitter comments below Jeff’s clip, it appears the left hate DeSantis, and it would escalate just like their hatred of Trump. But, is that hatred going to apply to any candidate who is conservative and not a Rino?

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Annie's avatar

The left hates everybody including themselves. They are nothing but hate.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

Probably an accurate assessment. The only difference in the scale of hate is just how conservative the candidate is.

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Freebird's avatar

BFM, we all hope for that!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I hope RDS can see his political career will be over if he can’t rein in that burning desire.

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Freebird's avatar

Another negative for DeSantis…RINO Carl Rove is putting his ”considerable” weight behind DeSantis.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Really??? What fumbles? Do share

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Janet's avatar

I may need a state to escape to eventually. Iowa is supporting his doctrine of lessor magistrates to push back tyranny and that is the next state west of me so there is that.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Iowa has a noteworthy governor.

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