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David A's avatar

Many speak of Putin, as they do of Trump, a compliment of them, along with a disclaimer of the "obvious" flaws. (Trump is rude and egotistical, Putin is a killer) When I watch Trump, yes, I understand the criticism at times, yet so often I have seen him deliver amazing speeches, and stay as cool as a cucumber in "doing the job" situations where he respectfully listens to folk in complicated emotional situations, that he opened up to public recording of. (Something for obvious reasons "Hiden Biden" never does) Trump was fearless of the press, taking them on daily. His "You are fake news" was classic directness. His indefatigable battle against the deep state was amazing, The details of how he fought the legal system, the left, the RINOS and turned Mexico's resistance to support on illegal immigration, was astounding and will full, finding solution after solution.

I do not know if Putin is a cold blooded killer, or if he is a "William the Conqueror" type killer, that actually built a nation in a very violent time. Were the "Oligarchs" Putin attacked, wealthy WEF backers? I do not know. I do know his speeches are sane, calm, informed, and mostly accurate with some political elements. And as Trump said, he is clearly trying to support his nation.

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Linda Sartain's avatar

Putin also wrote a Constitution for Russia. And at least once a year has an hours long news conference where he answers the press's questions.

I think he is a Nationalist and I do admire that.

I grew up and had a family during the cold war era. I read much about Communist and the USSR. I remembered that they would " bury us from within ".

Putin isn't the USSR.

And the USSR didn't bury us from within, the Nazi's did. They are pervasive in the Deep State, and in other governments.

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daverkb's avatar

You say it right. The Federation is not the USSR/CCCP of old. And Putin has said, nobody wants to go back to all of that. And nice to see this comment.

The irony of history is that we beat the NAZIs and then become them, and actually exceeded them in becoming a Marxist hybrid ... largely Fascist but with Communist elements blended in. And so, the Old Ones who said that in winning the Second World World we actually lost? These were right! It took me a long, long time to figure how this came to be so. I still find this most astonishing! And it was the in fact nothing less than the overthrow of what was left of the Old American Order.

Why does everyone expect Putin to be a Boy Scout? Why do 'they' call Putin a killer? But not the Woke Five Eyes/EU/NATO Empire? Which has killed millions more of people in endless wars, color revolutions and so on? Maybe Putin should be ashamed of himself that he has so 'under-performed'?

There are always these assertions. But so seldom a proper weighing of things out.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Your thoughts provoked me to think that the only way for the Old (Traditional) American Order to be protected would have been to stay out of those European wars that became I and II. Clearly, this is why the founding fathers warned us to trade with all and have alliances with none; and further warned us to stay out of the never-ending European wars. So much wisdom lost.

There is no going back. We must figure out how to move forward.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Excellent points.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Until Trump denounces "his beautiful vaccines that saved 100+lives" and acknowledges there's a fricking WORLDWIDE GENOCIDE occurring because of those jabs, I can't support him. It's past time to stop defending his current actions as being mislead, or tricked or whatever, there's plenty of evidence (and data) right before our eyes. One of his recent tweets, he mentions EVERYTHING that's going wrong with this country, EXCEPT the JABS! Why is that??

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CStone's avatar

Do you not realize what he was up against? Sigh. I grow weary of never trumpers.

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daverkb's avatar

Many of us are neither 'never trumpers' nor 'always trumpers'. Mostly, we try to make evaluations which make sense by reasoning and by proper placement into historical context. So given a planetary campaign of unprecedented genocide and terming the bioweapon delivery system '[his] beautiful vaccines' ... well then, there appears to be some massive cognitive dissonance going on here. And there is something amiss here because Trump knows how the Fake News works and there they were ... the Perfect Parrot Covid Chorus all chirping it out in unsettling unison. I cannot forgive him this. At the minimum there could have been halting resistance and a sowing of doubt.

I acknowledge the truth of Trump's accomplishment as per much of the commenting. And without doubt, a Trump 2020 win ... and we might not be arguing over the neat little NeoCon proxy war, the Ukraine Project. So yes, there is another side to the continental divide. And sometimes, one just has to make due and make best as one can or may. Nonetheless, aiding and abetting the genocide is going to stick as stain in the historical record yet to be written. And it ain't going away. And somebody is going to write it all down.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Dave, thanks for having the cognitive ability to put to words my own intuitive instincts. Thanks to the last three years, the biggest plague of our day is "massive cognitive dissonance"...enough to drive some people mad.

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daverkb's avatar

Hi Phil ... and guess what? He have to remember we all are on the outside of a fish bowl in which all this crap is going on. Thus when we evaluate some of these people, it's perhaps not truly want we want. Not really. It's more one faction of not us regular guys and gals against another faction of not us regular guys and gals. And the envelope can only be pushed so far at any one given time.

Right now, there seems to be a kind of war going on between the Powell Fed and the more Radical Marxist Woke faction (think Biden et alia). The bankers, including the Fed and a lot of Wall Street (not all of them) told the Washington NeoCons not to sanction. But being Supreme Geniuses, and being possessed of the Cosmic Knowledge of the Ages, they went ahead and did it anyway. Now with everything unraveling the Apex Money Power is freaking out because they are rapidly losing control ... and with the predictable resultant shift of power to the East. Although they the Banker Elites invented this NWO insanity, their creation is now turning on them. The Apex Money Power has to reign in Woke Power Gone Berserk or perish. The below speaks somewhat to this. It's a little 'abstract' ... but also good food for thought.

https://rumble.com/v2efdjg-the-fed-and-the-ecb-w-tom-luongo-live.html

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Julie Ann B's avatar

DJT is playing 3D Chess and most people don’t understand the game. I’ll take Trump any day over another lying RINO like Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush or Lindsay Graham or someone who is controlled and bought off by the WEF.

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Kelly's avatar

"But but but!! Orange man bad! Orange man made mistakes we can never forgive! Orange man isnt perfect! We can never forgive him of that! Orange man is still playing the game that WE dont understand, so: Orange Man Bad!"

It IS exhausting.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Uh, don't assume things you don't know. Besides voting for Trump TWICE, I also campaigned for him and attended rallies and parades. So, I'll reiterate - IF he was tricked, mislead, etc, etc, WHY does he STILL tout "HIS beautiful vaccines that have save 100+M lives" and not even acknowledge the massive DEATHS and MAIMINGS that are now occurring? Why can't anyone answer THAT QUESTION??Talk about cognitive dissonance...

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Jen's avatar

I agree with all that you're saying. He did so many good things that I really respect him for. But I am still confused about the refusal to denounce the jabs (maybe he has a reason I don't know), and I am very confused about the funding of GAVI. I can't figure that one out.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Now I need to research this GAVI deal. Hard to keep tabs on guys...

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Especially after saying this in the 2015 debate but then hiring big pharma goons to head up the FDA and HHS. And nothing came of the Vaccine Safety Commision he talked about having with RFK Jr. 🤔🤔

"You take this little beautiful baby, and you pump — I mean, it looks just like it's meant for a horse, not for a child, and we've had so many instances, people that work for me,” he said. “ Just the other day, 2 years old, 2 1/2-years old, a child, a beautiful child went to have the vaccine, and came back, and a week later got a tremendous fever, got very, very sick, now is autistic."

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

I think that in hindsight Mr Trump will be recognized as one of the greatest Presidents If we survive as a nation.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Again, your insights are on point.

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