I didn’t actually mean classy. I used quotes to try and say it sarcastically and to add to what the original poster said. I edited it to add sarcasm because nothing about this was ever right or classy.
I hope this comes out right - it's hard sometimes in writing.... From where I sit (and this is only my opinion) I have no problem with adults doing what they want to do providing no one is getting hurt, everyone is actively consenting (meaning they aren't just doing something because they're so drunk they have no idea what is going on) and *everyone* involved is an adult. However, I am absolutely disgusted and infuriated by any type of sexual or even slightly suggestive acts or displays around children. That is the lowest class of a person that does this and they need to be in jail or worse. The drag story hours and perversion around kids would NOT have been happening even 10 years ago. It's wrong and it absolutely should be 100% illegal. There's something wrong with parents who take their kids to these things. As a survivor of sexual abuse, this whole idea of exposing kids to anything sexual makes me irate. Perhaps early shows like the ones I saw lead to a slippery slope - I don't know. I do know that what is going on now is wrong.
Well said. The only problem I see is tracing this back to its inception the whole goal of live and let live, was supposed to lead to the children. It’s their sick evil depraved minds that will never let it stop at live and let live.
Read Martha’s post above authored by Christopher Rufo. It digs into the birth of this depravity.
That can't be my determination - it has to be the determination of the participants. I just don't see a problem with consenting adults (adults only) doing what they want with their lives. If an adult male wants to dress up like a girl and whack his parts off - as insane and completely mentally ill as I think that is - that's his business. I think it's totally messed up if he has children who have to witness that fiasco, but where do we draw a line in the sand or do "we" even have a right to? It's not an easy answer. I'm sure there are plenty of folks who would define my absolute refusal to go anywhere near a doctor for over 30 years as harming myself and harming family because my life "might" be shortened as a result. Should someone have the right to tell me I must see a doctor because someone might get hurt? I certainly was/am accused of harming others for three years by refusing to stay home, to mask or use sanitizer, and refusing all tests and jabs, not to mention calling it the "scamdemic". My actions had consequences: I lost a job opportunity and all but one family member, plus all friends. I was called a lunatic, dangerous, evil, and even a murderer once. You're absolutely right that no one is an island, but I also support peoples' rights to make their own decisions.
In my opinion it was never classy. The only possible redeeming thing about the early trans is they didn’t try to push this perversion on children.
I didn’t actually mean classy. I used quotes to try and say it sarcastically and to add to what the original poster said. I edited it to add sarcasm because nothing about this was ever right or classy.
I hope this comes out right - it's hard sometimes in writing.... From where I sit (and this is only my opinion) I have no problem with adults doing what they want to do providing no one is getting hurt, everyone is actively consenting (meaning they aren't just doing something because they're so drunk they have no idea what is going on) and *everyone* involved is an adult. However, I am absolutely disgusted and infuriated by any type of sexual or even slightly suggestive acts or displays around children. That is the lowest class of a person that does this and they need to be in jail or worse. The drag story hours and perversion around kids would NOT have been happening even 10 years ago. It's wrong and it absolutely should be 100% illegal. There's something wrong with parents who take their kids to these things. As a survivor of sexual abuse, this whole idea of exposing kids to anything sexual makes me irate. Perhaps early shows like the ones I saw lead to a slippery slope - I don't know. I do know that what is going on now is wrong.
Well said. The only problem I see is tracing this back to its inception the whole goal of live and let live, was supposed to lead to the children. It’s their sick evil depraved minds that will never let it stop at live and let live.
Read Martha’s post above authored by Christopher Rufo. It digs into the birth of this depravity.
But how do you decide when "No one" is getting "hurt"? No man is an island.
That can't be my determination - it has to be the determination of the participants. I just don't see a problem with consenting adults (adults only) doing what they want with their lives. If an adult male wants to dress up like a girl and whack his parts off - as insane and completely mentally ill as I think that is - that's his business. I think it's totally messed up if he has children who have to witness that fiasco, but where do we draw a line in the sand or do "we" even have a right to? It's not an easy answer. I'm sure there are plenty of folks who would define my absolute refusal to go anywhere near a doctor for over 30 years as harming myself and harming family because my life "might" be shortened as a result. Should someone have the right to tell me I must see a doctor because someone might get hurt? I certainly was/am accused of harming others for three years by refusing to stay home, to mask or use sanitizer, and refusing all tests and jabs, not to mention calling it the "scamdemic". My actions had consequences: I lost a job opportunity and all but one family member, plus all friends. I was called a lunatic, dangerous, evil, and even a murderer once. You're absolutely right that no one is an island, but I also support peoples' rights to make their own decisions.