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Fla Mom's avatar

Have you noticed the absence of "old theology Protestantism" these days? Supreme Court Justices? Presidents? Anyone? Bueller? Our country's form of government was founded on the Presbyterian form of government, and a huge proportion of officers in the Revolution were Presbyterians. Calvin Coolidge may have been the last of his kind in public life.

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When Obama termed America a post-Christian society, the alleged Christians of the country were all indignant, very angry. But Obama was right. Let me give you an example. My wife and I were around five years in a little Virginian country Baptist church. Very nice people ...BUT not once did we ever study from the Baptist Confession of Faith of 1689 or the Catechism (1693). And we barely knew what this was other than something we had never seen. And we never heard anything about adoption, justification and sanctification. Didn't not even know that these existed. No church history. No reading of historical documents. In short, deader than a dead anechoic chamber. Once I read R. J. Rushdoony's Institutes of Biblical Law, vol. 1 and Edward Gibbon on Church history, my jaw nearly dropped off. I now realize that most of what passes for Christianity in America is in fact largely heretical. And if they who profess and yet are invincibly steeped in ignorance, if these have even have an inkling of what I am getting at, then most of these 'Christians' would be in fits of anger.

From what I know now, Christianity in the America is now a profession of the blind leading the blind. And if there ever was a verse applicable to the state of the present day American Church, it is Hosea 4:6. And the part of this that anguishes me the most these days is the abandonment of the children to a most squalid culture ... and so bereft of a wholesome Christian upbringing both in faith as well as in studied letters.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Your words are music to my ears brother. I extensively read good ol' RJ Rushdoony when he was alive and learned so much. And it is so true you never hear of the bedrock Biblical doctrines of adoption, justification and sanctification. I don't even remember hearing them in a PCA church I use to attend.

Hosea 4:6 is THE prophecy for our time and it is heart breaking....

Hosea 4:6 NKJV

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I also will reject you from being priest for Me; Because you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Sadly, Presbyterians today don't even know what you are talking about.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Lawzy mussy, Phil, you know there isn't one group called 'Presbyterians!' We're not called 'the split P's' for nothing! People in Orthodox Presbyterian Churches know exactly what he's talking about, and more, as do some in some Presbyterian Church in America congregations. I can't go on about other Presbyterian denominations, as there are too many and I'm not familiar with all of them. I agree with you, far too few Presbyterians do know what he's talking about, though.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I love it when I get corrected! I did attend a PCA church for awhile. They were pretty solid...mostly. Before that I attended a small Reformed church. Very conservative. Nobody's perfect. The American church has lost so much knowledge since our founding. We really need a revival and not the hand waving kind.

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