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June M's avatar

I refuse to take the statins because nothing I’ve seen shows it actually stops heart problems. My mom had a hard time taking any of them and granted she had a triple bypass but now they have her on one and her cholesterol is below 100 but they want it lower?!? She has other problems like BP and vertigo that I wonder how much is tied to the actual medicine she takes. I have been trying more natural ways to manage mine and had success this past Dr visit. Hopefully continuing what I’m doing plus losing some weight (hmm, how much of that is tied to health problems??) I can get is lower. Biggest problem with modern medicine is not wanting to get to the root of the issues. More medicine = more money for everyone but the patient.

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FourWinds's avatar

If we think about big medicine as a business, which it is, then if it does not turn a profit, it will go out of businesses. A cured customer is money lost. The whole thing is a scam and a racket to have lifelong customers. Aside from antibiotics to kill bacterial infections, I'm not sure pharma or doctors cure a darn thing.

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Dick's avatar

Antibiotics not needed either! Except in some acute cases, yes. But, UTI’s & the like? Much harm, little good. There are so many natural a-bs.

A few: garlic, grapefruit sd ext, Olive leaf!, most culinary herbs, especially oregano oil (strong! Can disrupt gut flora, tho’), high vit C, propolis, many many more good ones — & they blitz in differing ways, so it’s a multi-pronged attack; you can use them together. Foods, drinks, sunlight (D). Turm, mullein, lemon, honey…

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FourWinds's avatar

I'm with you! I will take anything natural and it will probably work faster and better, too. Oregano oil is powerful for fungal overgrowth, too.

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Dick's avatar

Yep! So are many other antibac herbs.

But oregano oil is powerful. I use caution, but it’s indispensable. I read that it’s good if you suspect food poisoning. If I swallow sumpin suspect, I pop one. (Ginger for good measure) Dunno if it works or if I was just paranoid! No way of knowing then, is there?

God Bless!

🕊💨💨💨💨

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Dick's avatar

Exactly the same w/ my mom. Once they get past a certain age, say…80s (or under), HMO Drs will not mention the weight of their patients. And the bp and vertigo is never associated w/ the blood thinners; the pains are never associated with the beta blockers, drug interactions or the other cardio crap the Cardiologist doles out. Never side-effects.

One by one we got Mom off them. First, nutrition & supps to offset the effects of the meds. (I used the Mendel book & others) Second, same strategies to safely achieve the same goals and reverse the underlying problems.

At first, my stubborn Mom, who loved her idiot, flattering Dr., would angrily halt any mention of the debilitating symptoms being side-effects! I finally just stopped talking & quietly set the book on the table in front of her, open to the page. She read. She said, “You’re right”. And thus began the shift. Her pains did not take long to go away. Then the blood thinners were stopped & we compensated safely & naturally. She no longer had to rest on the kitchen counter & use it as a support in navigating around the kitchen. We worked on sleep & excercise too.

As her trust in me increased, she more willingly listened and went along. 4 pieces of toast every morning went down to just 2. Added good fats (curb & sate appetite), pastured proteins, (no seed oils) and way less sugary stuff. (allowed was a couple of dark choc covered macadamia nuts—good fats, good nuts, & good, yummy choc w/out too much sugar — she loved rich deserts & everything sweet. Favorite food: bread & butter. The below example shows part of the diet I tailored to her particular likes and situation; everything in it has a manifold purpose & function.

First a m. sit down , she took an enzyme w/ real juice & coffee. while I fixed breakfast — her 2 slices of sprouted wh toast were slathered w/ coconut oil & pastured butter, ginger jam, w/ grated org. orange peel & cinnamon, served with 2 pastured eggs, fruit yoghurt & some supps. (& enzymes, pre- & probiotic foods) 👆🏼Just an example: All food ought to be seen as EITHER healing or damaging. Forms matter immensely. There’s way too much to relate — so much to learn!!!

But, she began to get stronger and to drop weight. There were other health issues too, and it gets complicated to relate how we also addressed them. But the improvements her overall health and well-being was great for us both to see.

A very careful approach is necessary. The drugs often have to be stopped slowly — in the proper way, incrementally. A weaning period (consult w/doc). They all have various half-lives as well. So it’s imperative that one reads everything available on everything. Interactions are very important, too. This includes many food & supp interactions, too.

I encourage you and your Mom to continue and to never let the b….rds get you down.

It’s not easy.

But 1) undo the harm

2) Do no harm

3) Heal.

A good Functional or Integrative MD can be a Godsend!

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Peace's avatar

What is the Mendel book you refer to? Your mom is blessed with your guidance.

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Dick's avatar

Thank you! That began over 10 years ago. Mom’s gone now.

But it was a great blessing to me to have that time with her.

I apologize. It is MINDELL, Earl. A book called “Prescription Alternatives” https://www.amazon.com/Prescription-Alternatives-Hundreds-Prescription-Free-Remedies/dp/0071600310

It’s old now, but still a immensely helpful — invaluable. Well-organized & foundationally informative & a great starting point for web searches.

Amazon has copies. The newest (>decade old) edition is there —

Peace, Peace!

✝️🙏🏽🕊💌

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Just think about why doctors warn against eating grapefruit while taking BP meds. Because grapefruit LOWERS BLOOD PRESSURE! So, why doesn't the doctor skip the meds and recommend eating grapefruit? 💰💰💰 My husband has gotten off his lifelong BP meds and says he feels better than he has in years. He took statins for s short while but stopped when the nightly muscle cramps just became too much and the doc just wanted to ADD another RX to suppress the side effects of the first.

He's done/is doing a lot of research into diet, supplements and minerals, natural cures. Turmeric with black pepper, magnesium, boron, Celtics salt and iodine are just a few things he's researched. It's crazy how depleted our bodies have become in the last few decades and we're either told "we're sick" or "it's just age".

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Hubby just going thru cancer rigamarole and they are worried about his bp!! Cancer treatment isn't enough! They want to add cardiac testing and meds too!! And the Drs dont even agree about if his is too high!! We hate everything medical!! 😭

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Dick's avatar

RJ — Please read Granny’s posts above, & mine too (some just now),👆🏼👇🏼

Also look up how they’ve adjusted DOWN several markers for high BP & other ones they test for in recent years. Embark on that life-without-the-AMA

journey.

Find a doc who knows this stuff wrt hubby’s cancer. There’s a world of non-toxic alternatives out there.

Ask your present docs for ALL info & stats on their recommendations.

The journey is rigorous in time & effort & I hope you search & can find a knowledgeable professional ally in whose hands he can be trusted.

I don’t have time now, but I will try to find & pass on what may be helpful to you. I’ll save your post link & can do it here.

Blessings! ✝️🕊🙏🏽👆🏼💌

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RJ Rambler's avatar

♥️ thank you so much! We are up to our eyeballs in reading. We've been fighting medical establishment for 35 years. It's never over.

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Dick's avatar

I know. I really do! I was blissfully ignorant for so many years, but had no issues that challenged me into the fray. Drafted by God’s often sorrowing providence & thrown right into back to back battle.

Luckily (but not luck:👆🏼) I was never one to fit into systems or institutions. Couldn’t if I tried. (My shoelaces were always tangling & I trip so I tossed the shoes & sprinted on)

Anyway, sorry if I loaded you with too much stuff. It is a lifelong classroom, isn’t it? All while beating off the harpies, paying the bills, loving the fam and getting the home chores done.

I hope you have good cohorts & also the gratification of sharing your knowledge & seeing the benefits for others.

Take care!

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RJ Rambler's avatar

I think we are deeply related. Thanks for sharing. I know very much where you've been. It's the road all God's children travel, they can't resist even when they resist. 🤗🙌

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Dick's avatar

GRAMMY! I just realized that I was calling you “Granny”. I need new glasses. But, interestingly, I had started to write it correctly because that’s what we called my own beloved long-departed Grammy, & I love that. So dumb me, I self-corrected it to what I had misread.

…Silly addendum here, but wanted to note.

Blessings!!

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

LOL! No problem, you're not the first, nor probably the last. My given name is often misspelled, too, so it is what it is, at this point. But the default font on substack is, at times, difficult to discern properly.

nn vs mm

Grammy is what my grands call me, too!

Blessings back! 😍

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Dick's avatar

Thanks! Granny, you are absolutely after my heart!

…Was even going to use the grapefruit example as well! The vitamin K thing is another one that fries my bacon. The very nutrients necessary for healing are what can’t be eaten or supplemented because…the drugs. Don’t get me going!

But.

If we know WHY, we can begin the path you took with your husband. Break the chain. We can help others to do the same.

We know that foods (incl bevs) have differing (and manifold) medical effects both in the body and by interacting (+/-) with, counteracting, or replacing the drugs.

That book I linked just now in the post above is so helpful with sorting through all that stuff & helped me so much w/ further web searches for more info.

I’m also glad that Functional (& Integrative) Medicine is on the rise. I see in future Hospitals and nursing homes dedicated to interdisciplinary healing. The proverbial limp in and leap out! Unfortunately, I’m also seeing the large Med systems (Providence, Kaise, for example) have their “in house” alternative Funct/Integ practicioners, but it’s largely eyewash. In name only. It’s still: drugs & surgery foremost always & we’ll let a poorly educated naturopath tack on on a good diet & exercise plan to coordinate with our prescription blood thinners, beta blockers, implants etc etc etc.

So great to know you’re doing it. God Bless you and your husband richly!

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Reposting that link here. Old but excellent as a basic resource. https://www.amazon.com/Prescription-Alternatives-Hundreds-Prescription-Free-Remedies/dp/0071600310

🙏🏽✝️🕊💌🌻

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