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Anne Clifton's avatar

Quick! I need a dermatologist who doesn't blindly follow the protocols. I went to a local doc because of a suspicious spot on my cheek. I was told it was not cancer, then the doctor looked at my face using what appeared to be a simple flashlight, and found two spots on my nose. They were biopsied and said to be squamous cell cancer. I am supposed to have MOHS surgery on June 9 to remove these invisible cancer spots. In the past I would have accepted this without question, but after covid, I can't help but wonder if the doctor is following a protocol which may not make any sense. On the other hand, if I ignore it and it gets bigger, maybe even visible, I will have bigger scars when it is removed.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Anne: ask friends for a holistic dermatologist and get a second opinion from that doc! That's my best advice - I pray you get just what you need to calm your fear and help you to think CLEARLY. PRAY without ceasing also - that's my REALLY best advice!

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Thank you! I am a follower of Christ, so I am praying. Your response might be one of the answers to my prayer.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Do keep us all posted on your journey through this "valley" experience, Anne---we're all "family" here at C & C Army!!

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Karen's avatar

We need more Holistic doctors. If people know of them, they need to share that information with others. Many would even travel a distance to see them.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

For now, I believe Ann should get a second opinion from a dermatologist that is recommended to her by a friend or family member that she trusts. There ARE directories online that she can check for "holistic MD's" and "naturopathic physicians"...I've done that myself and they're very comprehensive.

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Emumundo's avatar

Robin Openshaw has an article about black goo which her grandmother used to use and that she has successfully used on skin cancers. She has a substack.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Just checked 'black salve'--find that we MUST NOT use it on skin ---it's corrosive (and doctor med treatments are not damaging?) especially, we must not use it for skin cancers. Sounds to me like the FDA admitting that it works effectively for that purpose. And to my delight--the main ingredient is bloodroot---two plants of which I set out in my garden a year ago.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Sounds like ‘bloodroot’. I used this on a very old big beloved dog who developed a lot of ugly tags/warts. Vet didn’t really recommend surgery given his advanced age, but drew up a plan and it would have cost $1,400.

I did research, found bloodroot (Native American remedy) and it worked wonders. Restored him to his handsome self for the last couple of years. He so enjoyed all the ladies stopping to say how ‘beautiful’ he was! Indiana Jones was a one of a kind canine.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

yes--her 'black salve'--though I think she didn't state what it was composed of (I was looking for that info)

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Emumundo's avatar

She did not state what it was, but there is a link to purchase it.

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Dee's avatar

That’s a tough choice. My husband had a small spot on his nose. It was biopsied and came back as basal cell. The dermatologist told him he needed Mohs surgery. Of course, she used the C word which scared him into doing it. By the time of the surgery, you couldn’t even see where it had been. There was no way I could talk him out of going through with it because he was frightened by the “cancer” diagnosis. The Mohs surgery took all day and I was appalled at how they butchered his nose. He looked disfigured. I’ve since read that some dermatologists don’t do Mohs unless it comes back.

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Truth 101's avatar

Mother's dermatologist removed basal cell first and then after reoccurrence sent her for Moh's. This dermatologist works for an independent practice. The hospital-affiliated practices seem much more eager to pu$h $surgical procedure$$$$.

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Dee's avatar

Yup, this was a Mayo Clinic dermatologist.

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Truth 101's avatar

Yep. Ran into the same thing with the eye Dr. When we switched to the independent practice the eye $urgery does not seem so urgent.

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CMCM's avatar

My mom had a spot on her cheek when she was in her late 80s, and it just wouldn't totally heal and go away, and then it sometimes bled a bit too. Her doctor at Kaiser just brushed it off as a big nothing. Finally my sister and I accompanied her to a doctor visit and demanded they more seriously check it out. Turned out it was cancer, and she got the Mohs surgery from a doctor who was actually quite wonderful. We sat in the room with her while he did the surgery, and we watched it. By 6 to 8 months later you couldn't tell she had had the surgery, there was no scar at all.

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antoinette.uiterdijk's avatar

During a MOHS procedure the surgeon removes thin layers of skin one layer at a time, and examines each layer under a microscope to determine if any cancer remains. This procedure continues until only cancer-free tissue remains.

Good your M.D. was meticulous and found the spots. I wish you well !

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Copernicus's avatar

Well, first of all, you can reschedule the surgery. The spots aren’t going to grow that fast, most likely.

That gives you time to read, research, and get a second or third opinion.

You say it is currently invisible? I would definitely do some research and see if you can find out how many of these invisible spots eventually become visible. And over what period of time? How do they KNOW that these invisible spots don’t come and go all the time?

I’m not saying they do or don’t. I have no idea. But after the last three years, I would press the pause button to ask some questions.

Check out Thomas Seyfried’s work with ketogenic diets and cancer. And Tucker Goodrich’s work discussing vegetable oils and cancer, specifically skin cancer. Maybe with diet you can change this. And by all means please don’t use chemical sunscreens. 🙏🏻

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Anne Clifton's avatar

I think I will reschedule. How do they know what to cut if it can't be seen??? Maybe I'm stupid, but it doesn't make sense to me. When I had endometrial cancer 15 years ago I was told I needed chemo, but not radiation. Then, at my last chemo appointment, the oncologist recommended radiation. I prayed and researched and decided against it. The radiation oncologist told me if I did not undergo radiation and the cancer came back, I would die. I took my chances and here I am, doing fine as far as I know. The fact that I had cancer is actually one reason I didn't get the covid jab. I heard early on about incidences of people in remission having a recurrence.

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Shellie Willmering's avatar

I've had both basal and squamous cell carcinomas removed so many times I've lost count, but the only one that left an ugly scar was the one done with the MOHS procedure, and it took hours. That one was a squamous cell and so tiny I had to really try hard to see it. I wish I had it cut out, or even burned off instead, but the dermatologist swore it was my best option. No, it wasn't. It was their most lucrative option. I will not ever go that route again. Whatever option you choose just know that they check for clean margins always when cutting it out to make sure it's all gone. With MOHS, they take as little as possible until they get clean margins, therefore their claims of it being the better choice. Bologna! On my left forearm and hand I've had 2 squamous and I belive 5 basal removed, all surgically and 1 was MOHS. The MOHS is the only one that left a scar. That's just my hand and forearm. Also, most dermatologist have a reconstructive surgeon that works with them. I highly recommend you go that route as the dermatologist is only going to cut it to remove it. A good one will use a cosmetic surgeon to close up, at least.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Interesting. My ex had MOHS done on his face but no clean margins. He is now undergoing chemo for the “skin cancer”. SMH. Of course he is well jabbed… 🙄

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Shellie Willmering's avatar

I'm so sorry to hear that. I will pray for his complete healing from both the cancer and the jabs.

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Shelle's avatar

Look into bloodroot tinctures or salves. You have to do your own research, but you can find them on Etsy.

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Salty K's avatar

Look into vitamin c and frankincense oil

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Lynn46's avatar

I had a spot on my nose that would heal and then come back. Delt with it for a couple of years. Last yr showed my dermatologist and she just froze it. It hasn't come back.

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