& I couldn’t go into restaurants because “someone” decided I was unhealthy because I wouldn’t take a jab .. unhealthy like religion is a cover for control
You mean Media and Education; come to Coloraido's High Country where the religious boogeymen are 5-15% of the population, and the close-minded, judgmental, hypocritical, moderately educated, progressive secular-cult is controlled and fool themselves that they are not.
I never got the poke in my arm, never will, and I went into restuarants ahd ate whenn I wantd to. Got kicked out for no mug nappie by paranoid owners fearing their Knot Sea City goobermint would shut them down if they let the likes of me in. I just went up the road and probably had a better meal. Haven't been back to that paranoid town since then but if I do I will avoid HIS joint. His pizza had been decent, but his boot resulted in my discovering a treasure of a Thai place a few blocks away.
They have always wanted to be the nanny government; controlling how we spend our money, where we spend our money, what we eat, how much we eat is none of their business!
It seems like the stupidest, most inept people love to be in government and tell everyone else how to live their lives. I'll never understand people who want to control everything about others.
true religion (faith in Jesus) is never about control. Itis about YOUR freedom to choose. The jabs were never about anyone's freedom,but all about control, you are correc about that. Nothing like true religion.faith.
Bu the bye, almost all of the folks I spend a lot of time with ARE people of faith,and of the several hundred in that category I know only TWO rolled up their sleeves. It appears sofar, like they both got their shots frim the same bottle of placebo.. clear liquid nobody home in the bottle. YAY!!! Had they the choice put before them now there is no way they'd roll up their sleeves.
And next we will raise price of alcohol 🍷 because it’s unhealthy… and then GAS cars .. oh no, they are just banning them .. see where this is going .. 🙏
The only thing about the fake meat issue: I need to know what meat is fake and which is real. I can easily take it from there, but it appears that in some cases, at least, the manufacturers aren't telling us all we need to know to make that decision.
Regarding “gas cars” here in California my hubby & I are in the market for a new lease for small suv - the only deals are on electric vehicles ! Meanwhile gas prices are up to $6 a gallon again
100% Renewable by 2035(?) in ColoFado--still mining coal--just training it further out of state or shipping to China to be burned. Our State's Big Energy Corporations just PAID Extortion Money to the Dems and Gov. Polis for "exceptions". These Neo-Fascists all need a day of reckoning. Making big bucks on both sides of the energy "transition" and cycling it back to friends, associates, entities to keep the spoils system and Progressive Action fueled up and working for decades to come.
Terrific comments. All around disaster which prices us out of international competition trade-wise. And all forced by government laws and subsidies. The centrally planned Marxified economy is like a submarine without blast tanks to bring bring it back up to the surface.
These next months until the 'election' are going to be ugly. HOLD FAST. The weevils have a lot of work to accomplish before November. I speak failure to them and their hubritic plans. No, it is not a real word, I just made it up. But it certainly fits those jerks.
I'm so glad I still have my 1994 truck! Although CA registration for a 30 year old truck is still close to $300. I'm so looking forward to the day I can flee Commiefornia.
I watched a show on Netflix that was called Dragon Day (2013). EMP, Chinese take over of America, people in the mountain areas faring better and the magic year of the vehicle was 1976 or before. Anything made after that would not run.
So we really need to get a new transmission in the '67 Firebird. I hate to think how much we'd spend keeping it filled with gas. When the gauge shows 1/4 full, it's time to get to a gas station fast!
There’s a dealer in Idaho who has great prices. It’s been a bunch of years but they even flew my husband over from Oregon to buy a truck. Don’t know if they lease but you might just look into it. Turn it into a little road trip. Of course you still have to register in CA. Dave Smith Motors.
In the UK ours is the equivalent to $12 a gallon - most of it being fecking tax! Daylight fecking robbery! And our Sales Tax on practically everything we buy is 20%. What do they do with it all!!!
And where would we go? There’s no guarantee that the states with more freedom will remain that way, especially if they keep taking federal funds.
In our tiny little spot we are away from urban areas, have access to water, are not subject to awful insects most of the year, can grow food 10 months out of the year, and it rarely gets cold enough to worry about freezing pipes. And we have good neighbors.
On the other hand, the damn gubmt restricts so much of what can be done at local and state level…we constantly look at each other and 🤷♀️🤷♂️
Lol! Sadie Jay, sounds like you're driving HAL from 2001 Space Oddesy........" I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that ".........better watch your back!😬
Here in South Florida during the Lockdowns…they canceled school & religious services $ closed beaches.. but allowed the strip clubs to stay open 🙁… we didn’t follow Gov DeSantis in several south east counties
And mushrooms…the press is now pushing the mushroom narrative…saying they bring relief to stressed and overworked women, including stay at home moms🤦♀️.
You couldn't pay me to eat fast food. Made from the most toxic crap imaginable. And as far as the unimaginable, while I have read it here and there for years, it is becoming commonplace to read or hear someone saying multiple FF chains are adding human "meat". Even stores in their ground meat, and believe it or not, sports drinks. WTF??? Anderenochrome and organ harvesting leftovers. It's sick enough I could definitely see the cabal doing it. No proof, but this dude is not going to find out.
The best thing I ever did for my health is to stop *all* fast food and dining out period. I make almost every thing I eat at home using fresh ingredients just like my parents and grandparents did. Yeah, it's a bit of work, but the rewards when it comes to my health are priceless. When we dine out we have absolutely no control over what is in the food we are eating. At least when we make it at home we can make an informed decision on what to use in our products. Bread recipe is 4 or 5 ingredients when made at home. Most manufactured bread has a dozen or more ingredients in it. And "Wonder Bread" has (if I remember right) 49 ingredients. Stay away from processed foods and you won't need the shots, surgeries, pills and crap that this system keeps trying to make us take!
"Yeah, it's a bit of work, but the rewards when it comes to my health are priceless."
For years, we have canned our own peaches, pears, applesauce, pickles, jams, jellies, etc. We know everything that goes into each batch and have modified recipes to lessen or eliminate sugar, ie applesauce = apples, cinnamon, and nutmeg. One year, after canning 20 boxes of peaches and 10 boxes of pears, we calculated how much we had spent on fruit, lids, gas to get to the orchards on the other side of the Cascades, etc., divided by how many quarts of fruit we canned, and ended up with a grand total of $0.75 per quart. You cannot buy a quart of peaches at the store for that price! And there is not all the added sugar and chemicals! And it just tastes better!
In fact, one family member's kids simply will not eat the store-bought stuff. We miscalculated how many boxes of fruit we needed to can one year and ended running out before the next canning season. She bought the canned peaches and pears from Costco - her kids refused to eat them! She ended up having to donate it all to the local food pantry.
Fla Mom, sounds absolutely delicious! I make bone broth from leftover roasted chicken & turkey, but haven't tried canning it. Is there any special tip you would recommend for someone canning bone broth for the first time?
I can broth alot. Start w/ everything cold. Fill jars, wipe rims, pressure can at 10lbs (for my altitude) for 30 minutes. Allow pressure to come down naturally (20 min). Done deal.
It was so easy! I use the hot pack method - hot jars, hot broth, pressure can at my altitude for 20 minutes pints and 25 minutes quarts. All the usual instructions apply.
So do I. I bring my own filtered water as well. I live in Florida so if I go out to eat, I usually get something like boiled shrimp and a side of vegetables.
Excellent. We are very much the same way, though we do eat out occasionally, but only after talking with the owners and verifying what we are getting ie. humanely raised meat , organic products, no seed oils, etc. Ditto anything made. Know two bakers who make organic products, and on the rare occasions I buy any processed foods, I do a thorough ingredient check. Fast food is a hard "never" . I cringe every time I see the crap almost everyone has in their grocery carts.
About a year ago, I was driving in the Florida Keys and there was a restaurant that had a sign out in front that advertise that they did not use seed oils. That’s the only time I’ve ever seen that.
Olive oil will often be mixed with canola for profitability, especially now that olive oil has reached very high prices due to a shortage (I believe weather related?) We know this Greek born fellow whose family owns an olive grove in Crete and sells us EVOO by the tin directly. In this past year. he has had to raise the price quite a bit.
Mediterranean restaurants here are not using the same quality of ingredients they do in Greece and Italy.
There's little/no regulation on olive oil in the US. They can take a 55gal of canola oil, drop a few drops of olive oil in it and sell the entire barrel as "olive oil". Laura Taft @ The Coleman Olive Oil Company in Texas and Pawhuska Olive Oil Company in OK ("The Pioneer Woman" Lee Drummond lives in Pawhuska) is a fantastic source of olive oil information and quality products. She buys only from 2500 yr old olive groves in Tunisa. She spent an entire afternoon teaching me all about olive oil and balsamic vinegar, different ways to use them and even shared her own recipe book for me to take home and peruse. She's also a strong Christian woman.
You’re right about adulterated olive oils. Most contain canola oil. Mark Twain even wrote in the 19th century about the olive oil adulteration! Been going on for a loooong time!
I was actually referring more to Mediterranean restaurants in this country adulterating oil.
I buy only Greek olive oil but I do the smell test.
Before I found our Greek born church friend who imports from his family grove, I used to buy an amazing Kalamata EVOO from Trader Joe's. The aroma was pure freshness, purity and heaven! (Not to kention the excellent TJ pricing)
Something happened the past year and they no longer have it.
I once bought a Greek one from Whole Foods: no aroma, won't buy again.
I once found an expensive family grove (numbered) EVOO from Sicily in an Italian specialty store. The aroma and flavor were pure heaven. It passed the sniff test. 😉Personally, I think the best tasting evoo comes from dry, further south countries or regions like Sicily, Crete or Kalamata in Greece, Tunisia.
A tidbit I once picked up from something I read. For a more delicate but amazing flavor EVOO, Florentine (Italy) is the best.
On rare occasion Costco carries glass bottles of it.
it's true - you have to check carefully - most major OO brands will have canola mixed in. you can also get pure CA olive oil, if you're not too prejudiced against Caly. :)
This all highlights the importance of regenerative agriculture. As we heal the soil, what we produce on and in the soil is much healthier-the phytonutrient density is markedly higher! Consumers need to request regenerative products!
How do we know vitamins are safe? I used to take vitamins but the "good" ones are expensive and how much do we actually absorb? Most of them have sold out to big pharma.
Consumer Labs tests supplements for lead, etc. as well as how much of the element or vitamin is in the product. This is a membership organization; it's not perfect as they are pro-Covid vaccine. But at least they actually test what's out there so members can choose the best brands. They also test some foods such as olive oil, etc. [I'm not affiliated w/them--just a member for the last 5+ years.]
Arrrrgh! We think we are trying to do the right thing and when I read this it makes me sick. I have been having a twitch under my eye for the last 3 weeks or so. Trying to eliminate the cause, like no caffeine or taking B vitamins. Seriously. I am at my wits end with all this.
I have been on mag and D (no sun in Idaho yet) since I started clean eating. I feel like I am in a bad movie, you know, the lady with the twitch? Haha. I am using blueblocker glasses right now, but I gave in on no coffee. Cutting it out didn't help and only made me cranky.
I just can't come to grips with that. I refuse. Ugh. I still feel 15 years old and inept, but then I look in the mirror and think.."there is nothing good about being inept at my age!" Then I read about how they make the supplements and think maybe I can live with a few twitches. Trying to eat right isn't easy either, if you listen to how the hubritics are polluting our food. So, praying over my food and trying to eat right!
Yeah, I suppose it could be. I am also wondering about my electrical grid inside myself and if it is being messed with by one outside of myself. I wonder if some creep flipped a big switch to turn on 100G and didn't tell us.
I make my own sourdough and use flour imported from Italy. There are three ingredients in sourdough: flour, water, and a very small amount of salt. It is not difficult to make. If you have an interest in making sourdough, I highly recommend Mary Rose at Homestead on YouTube for instructions.
Same with us too! I will only go out on the rare occasion of socializing. I like knowing that what we have cooked is from quality ingredients. Foid is becoming so expensive both at home and out, that I eant to know that I am doing something beneficial for my health, not detrimental.
Everything in the supermarkets these days is pure junk.
Exactly right. Quaker Oats with Peaches in the UK has 14v ingredients, and no chemicals. US version has twice as many ingredients, and chemicals start at the third ingredient. Also, many banned chemicals and substances in the EU are allowed in the US.
I buy Flahavan’s Irish rolled oats….grown, milled and packed in Ireland…1 ingredient: 100% whole grain Irish Oats. It’s delicious and if I can find it in MO. it has to be available in other states!
That's what we do. And baking our own bread from freshly ground wheat and other grains is very satisfying in multiple ways. We know exactly what is in it, as God intended it.
Our FDA needs a serious overhaul - this is ridiculous. My cousin lived in Ireland for nearly 10 years when she moved back from the states she pointed out the difference of ingredients / sugars in the exact same food product such as a box of Cheerios - I was shocked!
This country puts sugar or corn syrup in everything, like frozen pizzas even! The rest of the world finds even our sweets grossly oversweetened. (I have tried chocolate candy bars from Russia and Japan and they were not as sweet, but delicious nevertheless).
When I bake cakes, I always reduce the amount of sugar the recipe calls for..because in most cases, it is too much.
The American food industry has conditioned the American palate to crave sweetness. No wonder so many are sick. We are one of the most unhealthy countries. RFKJR often reminds us how when we boomers were young, we were a healthy country.
The US grows way more corn than it needs, due to the
Farm Bill, and most of it is not fit for human consumption.
There is tons of the stuff sitting in silos.
A majority of it is processed in to High Fructuous Corn Syrup and is one way or another in 90% of the 'food like products' in a US Supermarket. The rest is used as animal feed. The problem is that cows are ruminants and can't digest corn, so they are undernourished and sick all of the time.
Also +-90% of US soy is gmo and monsanto drenched. Label reading is a must if you buy packaged "food." In quotes bc a great deal merely masquerades as food.
The added ingredients are to make the food item more addictive. Just like cigarettes/nicotine products. Nicotine is not addictive. It’s the added crap that makes them addictive, but they blame it on nicotine.
I lived in England for 10 years. They BAN ingredients we have in Everything! Also Subway cannot call their sandwiches “Bread” because of the ingredients!! 😳
They shouldn't be able to label their tuna as "tuna" either. DNA testing found no TUNA DNA in their tuna salad. Subway denies the claims saying it was just processed so the "tuna DNA couldn't be identified". I think I remember hearing it was a probably a cheaper fish like tilapia and/or a bunch of soy. Subway also got sued for advertising the "foot long" sandwiches that were only 11 to 11.5 in. 🤣
I read the percentage of meat used in Fast Food was more than what cattle could be accounted for, so I’m with you. Even if the rumor is false, I’ll be healthier for not eating at the Golden Arches.
I read years ago that the meat they use is not real or something like that, and that while you may feel your belly full, not one cell in your body has actually been nourished!
It is difficult to find organic, non-gmo, no soy, no corn chicken feed. I usually can find a combo of not containing some but not all of these ingredients. My chickens love to free range, so that helps.
Agree! We have taken to ‘fermenting’ our organic chicken feed so that the girls get even more nutrition and it goes farther. Funny thing is, when they see me coming with the jar of fermented goodness, they get very excited!
I am sure he winged it, but made sure it was super insulated with a nipple type water thingy hanging in the pen. You can't let them roam up there, but it was a 20x30ish outdoor space and a place to roost and lay inside. I don't remember exactly the logistics, but where there is a will there is a way!
Thanks! It's a dangerous world if you're a chicken - they're definitely not the top of the food chain. Friends just lost a bunch to a bear who helped himself, along with the small goat he drug over the fence. Waah!
Yep...I got on the Tesco website a few weeks ago to see the food ingredients on their products. Most of it is just FOOD. Imagine that. Nothing that starts with an X.
If you look up the meat content of FF hamburger patties, most contain very little meat. For example, a McDonalds patty contains only 9% beef - yup, 0.09 beef. Culvers is one chain that actually has a real meat patty.
We travel to California a lot and usually go once while there. I get mine protein style, no cheese, wrapped in lettuce, and can eat the fries because nothing else is used, ie, no wheat products.
Ok, yes, the seed oils are bad, but super hard to avoid. It’s extremely hard to travel when one doesn’t eat wheat or dairy. We usually just find a place to park the trailer and eat food we brought.
I'm sure you're right, seed oils aren't good, Mercola has done a good job educating people, but if I were to eat wheat I'd get a migraine and body aches for days. I would so love to have some Striata with butter... I didn't even risk wheat when I was in Europe.
Wheat, and other grains, has been so modified for modern agriculture, it doesn't even resemble the original, heirloom strains. My sister ordered some heirloom wheat and made bread out of it. It has very little gluten in it and sensitive people have no problem eating that bread.
I might get brave and try it one day but allergy tests showed sensitivity to wheat, not gluten. I always just say gluten because people understand that.
Not sure if the test was detecting actual wheat, or the modern adulterated, modified versions. I'm sure some ultra fancy high priced lab can test heirloom, today's wheat, and gluten. The test I took was expensive, I can't imagine how expensive that would be to test heirloom. Even if there is a test you have to eat the item for a few weeks before the test.
Well, truthfully, I don't think humans were meant to eat grains except as an occasional treat. Nobody enjoys a piece of sourdough and butter more than me but I generally do not eat bread. It's worst than table sugar on the blood sugar after eating it. Additionally, grain has defense mechanisms like lectins designed to discourage anything from eating it which are very problematic for human metabolism. In ancient culture, refined grain like bread was considered a rarity often reserved for royality. Now processed grain of all types has become a staple in first world diets and displaces more nutritious and appropriate foods. As a result, most Americans are actually obese.
Fruit on the other hand is meant to be eaten and does not have defense mechanisms that can harm you. I try to maintain a diet of pasture raised meat, a little fruit and some vegetable. I stay away from all carbs as much as I can as they are a main contributor to our epidemic of diabetes. All refined sugar is off my diet.
I love the protein-style In-n-Out burger too! It was our only junk food place we’d go and they’ve done a great job holding the on prices. Alas, ours was the one store they shut down in March due to robberies and theft. You’d see the piles of glass in the parking lot as you made your way through the drive thru. We’d given up eating inside (hence the need to park) years ago. 🥺 Commifornia, as they say 🙄
That really stinks. LA area? We usually go from Redding down, Lodi, Kettleman city. Luckily we can always go in. Just have to find a place to park the RV, lol!
Yup I heard that years ago..they are not real beef burgers. To me. they are gross burgers. Ugh.
The sad part of our national food disaster is that even in homes where children are fed home cooked meals, once they become roaming teens, they will be partaking a great deal in junk food and sweets.
Back in the 70s in NYC we roamed, but our fast food was a slice of pizza or a deli sandwich. No McDonald's in Brooklyn at that time!
I think In N Out is real beef…their costs have skyrocketed. I rarely go there, and every time I do, their prices have increased another 30 cents for a combo.
Hubs boat catches pollock and that is what McDonalds use for their fish filets. I can't speak to the breading or tartar sauce though. It is just all bad. We have stopped eating out. Just awful.
Pollock is a good fish, isn't it? The problem is the seed oil used to fry the filets. Seed oils are a killer and people just don't understand how bad it is for you.
Yes, pollock is a great fish and is the largest bio-mass in the world. They regulate that fishery pretty well. The best place to buy it is Costco, in the frozen section. Read the label and it will say Caught in the USA and processed here as well. Hubs boat catch, process, package and flash-freeze right there on the boat. If we were to eat anything, it would be that. I eat shrimp from the Florida gulf, but he just can't bring himself to do it. Ignorance is bliss.
Ditto.....and mRNA being juiced into many animals now, which doesn't just disappear when you cook it, because it is actually a chemical concoction. No thank you. I'll spend $14/lb for locally raised pastured meat, support the local food system and my health...
Hubby and I have a quarter cow (from a close friend, so we KNOW it was grass-fed/finished) in our freezer. I will NEVER go back to the crap they sell in the stores. Two neighbors have chickens, so we have an egg source too. I need to seriously work on everything else though. Everything is better when it’s local/organic/made from scratch!
Find a local CSA or rancher to get a share of beef or pork and fresh pasture raised chickens (and eggs). It's usually much cheaper than buying meat at the supermarket. Plus you know what you get. We get our grass-fed beef for $3.85 a pound. We drive 3 hrs one way to get it, but it's worth it.
$3.85 a pound for grass-fed beef is a steal!! Do they process themselves, have a high volume? My pastor is selling grass-fed, non-vaxed beef for $10/lb and he's barely covering his costs.
The beef is $2.85 per pound and the processing is $.99 per pound. We usually get a whole beef a year plus the free offal of about six or seven more. We feed ourselves and our pups for a year + with that. Our rancher uses regenerative methods on his ranch and the cattle are free roaming. Ergo, he doesn't have expense of feeding or housing. They are never injected and receive zero antibiotics or hormones. Our butcher said the meat is comparable to that of wild bison.
Went to the farmer's market in Sahuarita AZ last week and there was a farmer selling good quality beef. A company called Homestead Butcher. No it wasn't cheap, but I wouldn't expect it to be. Also, all our countryside around Tucson is free range, at least the south end of the area....I didn't think to ask him if his was free range beef....but I think he said it was grass-fed. Ah, yes he did, I'm looking at his ad now.
I'm in Prescott. L-Bell is a great small farm in Skull Valley, if you ever get up this way. It's all free range, no drugs, mRNA, etc. Run by good folks.
Welcome! AZ is such a beautiful state. I hope many keep thinking its just a big desert. So much to see here. The Prescott area is quite stunning. Sahuarita is pretty too....a little too toasty for us though.
Yeah, you couldn't pay me to eat fast food either. For that matter, I no longer eat out at restaurants because of the cheap oils and other crappy ingredients they use. These days, when you eat out how do you know if a steak is really a steak?
lol, a couple years ago my husband and I ate at a Mexican restaurant in Flagstaff, Arizona. They were so proud to state on their menu "We only use canola oil. We never use lard."
I said to my husband, "somebody better wake these people up and tell them things have completely flipped and they now ought to be bragging about using Lard instead of canola oil."
Yeah, but for now at least it’s all government subsidized. Except the downstream medial bills of course. Pay me now or later they say. They used to ask at the FF counter if they could supersize the order for you. Now they’ve done away with that, they’ve only supersized the price.
This is an absurd comment. Perhaps higher priced cars are good too since car accidents are a major killer? And gas prices! Let’s pray those keep climbing TO SAVE LIVES!!! This is a free country where people ought to be able to make free choices with regards to what they eat without having all their money stolen through inflation. FYI your 401k retirement account is tracking downward at the same rate as inflation.
That right there started the day they installed this puppet, and wow has your retirements gone in the ptoilet since. Glad I’m not involved but I feel for the rest of y’all.
I for one, don’t want inflation nor the government stepping in to guide my
food choices, my movie choice,
my healthcare choices, my ANY
choices. This is ‘MERICA! If we want to eat crickets and plant based “meat” (extending our pretend games wherein men are women and burning cars is GOOD) we do so. But if we want to eat cows that already turned plants into meat, and save the crickets to feed our hens we plan to BBQ later, government can stick it’s nose elsewhere.
I haven’t had “real” fast food in many years, except occasional takeout pizza or a Starbucks sandwich. I prefer to spend more and get better quality. Traditional fast food like McDonald’s, KFC or Taco Bell is generally just gross and unappealing imo 😕
It’s bad at high end dining too. Don’t eat out much but, splurged this weekend. $50 entree of sea bass, whipped potatoes and 9 (just 9) green beans. Fish portion was tiny and undercooked. $19 glass of wine was OK. Could have bought the whole bottle for $26 at the liquor store. Left feeling ripped off and hungry.
Our family used to eat out once or twice a week but haven’t been out much since Covid shut down our favorite spots and Biden doubled the prices on the menus … there are consequences to raising prices. Its fine, we are healthier this way and setting a better example for our children too.
That's how we feel every time we eat out. The food is so-so and the server acts like they are doing us a favor by waiting on us and act like they don't want to be interrupted. We mostly eat at home now.
I haven’t made a “south of the border” run in quite awhile and not gonna lie…I used to dig some Taco Bell…but sheesh the places we’re getting so filthy I just couldn’t go any longer. I’ve noticed that even in sit down higher end restaurants. I think if the front of the house is sticky and dirty…the back must be putrid. Ya eating out not a thing. Besides no one can throw down a ribeye like my old man! 😊
Yeah we just entertained a couple of my brides girlfriends from up north, so instead of me cooking every meal like last time, we went out to the good waterfront restaurants around here. Haven’t eaten since they left, because belly, but stuck to mostly local seafood or beef, but wow, is it pricey! Couple hundred bucks ain’t nothing for four people.
Both myself and the hubs got food poisoning from their lettuce apx 7 years ago at the one that was outside Yellowstone. We crawled on the floor for 3 days and slept next to the commodes. Yep that’s never gonna happen again. Horrifying 😳
That will make a believer of you for sure! I decided that Subway was one of the nastiest of the nasties based on the smell alone. I think I’ve eaten there once about 20 years ago.
Our food poisoning experience came from McDonalds. Ruined vacation.
Recently discovered that Taco Bell now sells its sauces in stores. The mild version is pretty tasty--not perfect re ingredients, but still, now can add it to stuff made at home that is healthier...
I finally abandoned TB when they removed the Enchirito from their menu during the plandemic. I believe the Enchirito was an original menu item as I remember my ex ordering that when we were teenagers in the 70s. Then in the 90s, they got rid of my favorite, the Bell Beefer. I have to say though, I'm much better off for the choice, tho.
The places you mentioned I would call "bottom tier" fast food. Not fit to eat unless it's an emergency and even in those cases it is better to fast. lol.
When I ate fast food it was usually "high tier" versions like Chipotle or 5 Guys. Even now I rarely eat either one of them.
We stopped eating at Chipotle because of their Covidian crap. Masks to enter and order but off once you sat down and not needed to move and go do other things inside the building. And that was in Florida in 2022!!! Insert middle finger to Chipotle. Started making them at home and wow! Most requested dish to serve for company!! Way better and we don’t charge extra for homemade guac 😉
IF we eat out at all it is 5 guys. Celiac family members can get a burger with all the fixings in a bowl and the fries are not in a shared fryer. But wholly cow it costs $70 for a family of 4 with no drinks included. Ridiculous!
Yeah, I didn't go to Chipotle during the pandemic for that very reason. I'll have to think about 5 Guys. I didn't bother to ask for no bun.
That said, I make both taco salads and burgers at home that taste good and I feel much better after I eat my stuff vs their stuff. As a family of one, if I make that, it's what I'm eating for the next few days. That can get tiring.
We love taco salads! And burgers! We very rarely eat out. I have never been a great cook and hated doing it. But in the last 4 years I woke up to the realities with our food supply. I also woke up to how bad the service is at FF and restaurants. Not to mention how bad the food tastes that we were paying a fortune for. 🤦🏼♀️
I started figuring out how to cook with good ingredients. Then last year I started growing my own vegetables. I would say we now eat better than we have for 30 years.
For one person I also get that. If it was just me…eh. I’d still eat good knowing what I know now. But it would probably get repetitive.
I’m surprised at so many speaking well of Chipotle. The first time I tried it I had an almost immediate MSG reaction so I know their food is loaded. That was my first and only experience with them.
Yeah I agree, if we are on the road or something I would go for Panera or possibly Noodles and Company or Starbucks instead. I used to enjoy McDonald’s when I was a kid and young adult but I feel like it’s changed a lot since then, and probably I have too 😆
On the road story. 20 years ago, mom, daughter and I took a tour of Italy. I was bowled over by the highway food! I would opt for a freshly squeezed OJ from the big machines behind the counter) and a delicious warm panini. There were many different fresh fillings to chose from, and panini bread is delicious, thin, and nothing at all like what is called a panini here. Everything here is reproduced as if on steroids! Mom would sometimes opt for their freshly cooked restaurant type dishes (rice and meat type dishes). The food was equal to five star quality, and they were highway stops/autostrata!! What a difference from here!
I remember the 15 cent hamburger from Burger Chef. Fries were a nickel, cooked in tallow, and a little coke for a nickel. Boy howdy I must be old! But it tasted like food from heaven at age 10. One year I snuck off to Burger King after a full thanksgiving dinner only to find it was closed. So heartbroken!
Yes, I remember Burger Chef as a youngster and how great the burgers tasted, not like the artificial stuff in todays fast food... Oh to be able to taste that food again!
I made a "classic" hamburger recipe a few years ago. When I was done preparing the meat I recognized the smell. It was what McDonald's smelled like in the 80s when I was a kid. It was so vivid of a recall. Now it just smells like oil and chemicals in there.
Believe it or not it’s gotten better since the 90s when someone published a video of the “pink slime” that was cooked into “meat patties” … now the hamburgers are just cow meat and nothing else. I’ve heard stories there are “meat fragrances” in the patties but that is false. The other menu items though I don’t know … so many chemicals used for “cleaning” and embedded in the furniture and napkins and drinks and utensils/straws. I’m trying to clean up my family’s home environment and learning a lot.
Yeah I was thinking more the 70s… I feel like the quality slide started in the 90s. Probably the bad press about pink slime forced changes but I still think they aren’t as good as they were decades ago.
Our family used to eat out once or twice a week but haven’t been out much since Covid shut down our favorite spots and Biden doubled the prices on the menus … there are consequences to raising prices. Its fine, we are healthier this way and setting a better example for our children too.
It's a free? country and a place where you can create an eatery any way you want to and a great place to look up any information about what you're eating is you WANT to know. We should stop handing out money to ppl who eat out on it and teach them to cook for their own families instead of making then eat in fifteen minutes at a gov approved cafeteria all paid for by tax payers not sending their kids there and feeding them at home!
Bingo. Imagine that at one time, those on “assistance” were a little ashamed, and would never pay restaurant prices when they could feed their families for four days on one little restaurant meal. But now, what’s more important, nails, eyelashes, and phones, or your kids?
They can sell those too for cash! I NEARLY did a trade once and when i asked the cashier if that was a problem the guy followed me and my toddlers around the grocery store telling "racist" at me. He waited outside after I told management and management WATCHED me as I walked alone to my car!! This was thirty years ago!!
Have you ever noticed how grocery stores close and move around towns?
It’s not just now, when I was a cashier at a convenience store for a summer job over 30 years ago, people came in all the time to buy ice cream, chips, sugary drinks and cookies with their food stamps 😕 Not to mention our prices on most items were higher than the grocery store down the street but they couldn’t be bothered to go there. I think if we’re going to have a system like this it should work like WIC with only acceptable items covered by the EBT cards.
Where I live the farmer's market takes the whatever-they're-now-called cards, which is great, though of course it is still more expensive then buying frozen veg at the market. I don't judge people for buying easy to prepare or eat food. If you're working 2 jobs and have a family and live in a "food desert" your choices are pretty limited. It pisses me off that the best food is only affordable if you're rich - or live in the country with access to "farmer friends". I CAN afford to buy whatever wonderful organic / grass-fed etc food I want, but that is a pretty recent development.
Yes same here. I’m glad they can have access to that food and that the farmers can benefit from their purchases.
As far as making decent but cheap food goes, many people don’t know how to do that anymore. You can do a lot with a crock pot for example. And a huge bag of rice from an Indian or Asian supermarket is cheap. A lot of it is just not knowing how to make the most of cheap ingredients. Also even urban dwellers used to have small gardens and chickens so they had access to at least some fresh food but that has been made more difficult if not impossible. There are at least partial solutions to some of these issues but not much political will because keeping people dependent benefits too many of those in power.
I’ve seen where the food stampers go to Costco or Sam’s Club, load up a flat cart with pallets of soda, use EBT to buy it all, then take it all to their local convenience store (that they own, mind you), unload and sell it out of their store. Pure profit! There was a guy on YouTube that was following these people around and filming them. (Pretty sure YT took the videos down.) It was Muslim families doing this. They have multiple wives, but only claim one, so the others are all eligible for EBT, WIC, etc. It’s a whole racket and we are paying for it.
I don’t eat any fast food accept Chipotle occasionally. Not sure I’d consider it “fast food” much healthier ingredients than most places like McDonalds. I will say my daughter and I eat out a lot less than we used to. Even an average meal seems to be $50 for the two of us, which seems insane! These are middle class restaurants not 4-5 star…and I usually drink water.
If I eat it my throat burns. Proof of the horrible seed oils hosed all over it, in it and under it. They might as well put on the signs “—-Millions Murdered”
I went to Chipotle the other day and it cost me $18 for one burrito bowl and a drink. Yeah, that’s an occasional, once in a while splurge. (I got the queso blanco AND the guac, because guac is life.) Just a regular soda is almost $4 now.
But then there is the pesky problem of not having time to cook or prepare nutritional meals when having to work 2 or 3 part time jobs in a 24 hr a day window to pay the family costs.
Surely fast food isn't good for you and not eating it would be a healthier choice, but because of subsidies on many of the things that go into fast foods (e.g., sugar, oils, dairy, meat), they have tended to be cheaper per calorie. For this reason, and since they offer quick meals to those working long hours with little time to cook, a high proportion of fast food customers are among the poor, so inflated fast food prices are an indication of how much inflation is especially hurting the poor.
Regular restaurant food isn’t that much better. Still made with mono crops and pesticide laden ingredients. Also crazy high prices for substandard food and portions. Definitely eating out less and less and ditching places that don’t deliver anything less than a satisfying experience.
You've got a bright, if short, future with the Bush (I mean Biden) admin in their public affairs department. For more info please contact Billy Bush at the WH Press Office. I'm kidding of course!
People would be healthier overall if they stopped eating fast food. In this context, perhaps higher fast food prices are good.
& I couldn’t go into restaurants because “someone” decided I was unhealthy because I wouldn’t take a jab .. unhealthy like religion is a cover for control
You mean Media and Education; come to Coloraido's High Country where the religious boogeymen are 5-15% of the population, and the close-minded, judgmental, hypocritical, moderately educated, progressive secular-cult is controlled and fool themselves that they are not.
I never got the poke in my arm, never will, and I went into restuarants ahd ate whenn I wantd to. Got kicked out for no mug nappie by paranoid owners fearing their Knot Sea City goobermint would shut them down if they let the likes of me in. I just went up the road and probably had a better meal. Haven't been back to that paranoid town since then but if I do I will avoid HIS joint. His pizza had been decent, but his boot resulted in my discovering a treasure of a Thai place a few blocks away.
They have always wanted to be the nanny government; controlling how we spend our money, where we spend our money, what we eat, how much we eat is none of their business!
It seems like the stupidest, most inept people love to be in government and tell everyone else how to live their lives. I'll never understand people who want to control everything about others.
true religion (faith in Jesus) is never about control. Itis about YOUR freedom to choose. The jabs were never about anyone's freedom,but all about control, you are correc about that. Nothing like true religion.faith.
Bu the bye, almost all of the folks I spend a lot of time with ARE people of faith,and of the several hundred in that category I know only TWO rolled up their sleeves. It appears sofar, like they both got their shots frim the same bottle of placebo.. clear liquid nobody home in the bottle. YAY!!! Had they the choice put before them now there is no way they'd roll up their sleeves.
And next we will raise price of alcohol 🍷 because it’s unhealthy… and then GAS cars .. oh no, they are just banning them .. see where this is going .. 🙏
Yeah I think it needs to be a matter of informing people and then letting them make their own choices and accepting the consequences.
You must be one of those darned cranky ol' Constitutionalists!
Guilty as charged lol 😂
That’s exactly how I felt about the fake meat issue -only you expressed it better.
The only thing about the fake meat issue: I need to know what meat is fake and which is real. I can easily take it from there, but it appears that in some cases, at least, the manufacturers aren't telling us all we need to know to make that decision.
Unfortunately, in the current climate, the taxpayers “accept” the financial consequences of poor health choices
No of that is in the Constitution.. we’ve strayed so far ..
Regarding “gas cars” here in California my hubby & I are in the market for a new lease for small suv - the only deals are on electric vehicles ! Meanwhile gas prices are up to $6 a gallon again
How is mining coal bad, but mining lithium not bad?
Electric cars will be an environmental disaster, as well as dangerous if the power goes out and you need your car to escape something disasterous!
Like CA wildfires…just sayin’…
100% Renewable by 2035(?) in ColoFado--still mining coal--just training it further out of state or shipping to China to be burned. Our State's Big Energy Corporations just PAID Extortion Money to the Dems and Gov. Polis for "exceptions". These Neo-Fascists all need a day of reckoning. Making big bucks on both sides of the energy "transition" and cycling it back to friends, associates, entities to keep the spoils system and Progressive Action fueled up and working for decades to come.
I used to live in Colorado. Was there 40 years. Five years ago I moved to Florida. No looking back. They ruined it.
Terrific comments. All around disaster which prices us out of international competition trade-wise. And all forced by government laws and subsidies. The centrally planned Marxified economy is like a submarine without blast tanks to bring bring it back up to the surface.
These next months until the 'election' are going to be ugly. HOLD FAST. The weevils have a lot of work to accomplish before November. I speak failure to them and their hubritic plans. No, it is not a real word, I just made it up. But it certainly fits those jerks.
The new word is clever ... and it fits the shoe!
unless they find a new easy was to steal the election AGAIN!!!
Hubritic jerks.
:)
I'm so glad I still have my 1994 truck! Although CA registration for a 30 year old truck is still close to $300. I'm so looking forward to the day I can flee Commiefornia.
Semi - free Florida is awesome
I watched a show on Netflix that was called Dragon Day (2013). EMP, Chinese take over of America, people in the mountain areas faring better and the magic year of the vehicle was 1976 or before. Anything made after that would not run.
So we really need to get a new transmission in the '67 Firebird. I hate to think how much we'd spend keeping it filled with gas. When the gauge shows 1/4 full, it's time to get to a gas station fast!
There’s a dealer in Idaho who has great prices. It’s been a bunch of years but they even flew my husband over from Oregon to buy a truck. Don’t know if they lease but you might just look into it. Turn it into a little road trip. Of course you still have to register in CA. Dave Smith Motors.
I heard Montana also has great prices on cars and other vehicle types. My neighbor flew all the way there to buy one and saved over $3000.
Wow!
Do they sell regular cars too?
Yes!
Hey Sarah, Only $6 a gallon! I'll take it!
In the UK ours is the equivalent to $12 a gallon - most of it being fecking tax! Daylight fecking robbery! And our Sales Tax on practically everything we buy is 20%. What do they do with it all!!!
$12 gallon? OMG, it's worse than I thought. What thieves they are.
I share your pain. Not of looking for a vehicle; of living in California. Harder every day….
And where would we go? There’s no guarantee that the states with more freedom will remain that way, especially if they keep taking federal funds.
In our tiny little spot we are away from urban areas, have access to water, are not subject to awful insects most of the year, can grow food 10 months out of the year, and it rarely gets cold enough to worry about freezing pipes. And we have good neighbors.
On the other hand, the damn gubmt restricts so much of what can be done at local and state level…we constantly look at each other and 🤷♀️🤷♂️
Could it be time to move?
But a used gas car. And keep it as long as you can!
I have a new VW and I hate it. Our 2002 Dodge pickup lets me DRIVE it and doesn't second guess everything I do.
Lol! Sadie Jay, sounds like you're driving HAL from 2001 Space Oddesy........" I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that ".........better watch your back!😬
Right??!!! Haha
Do t those replacement batteries cost several thousand dollars?? Last.i heard was $4000.
They’ll leave liquor and pot alone, because a drunk and stoned population is easier to control!
Here in South Florida during the Lockdowns…they canceled school & religious services $ closed beaches.. but allowed the strip clubs to stay open 🙁… we didn’t follow Gov DeSantis in several south east counties
Clearly they were concerned about the important stuff! What a clown world we’re living in!
And mushrooms…the press is now pushing the mushroom narrative…saying they bring relief to stressed and overworked women, including stay at home moms🤦♀️.
Oh, good grief! What next?!
https://rumble.com/v4ognae-dr-david-martin-oil.html
Speaking of oil watch that it’s only 10 minutes long
or better yet watch the Youtube movie - Climate- the Movie
Socialism/Communism...................you asked.
They have almost doubled too
Already been done and done and done...
You couldn't pay me to eat fast food. Made from the most toxic crap imaginable. And as far as the unimaginable, while I have read it here and there for years, it is becoming commonplace to read or hear someone saying multiple FF chains are adding human "meat". Even stores in their ground meat, and believe it or not, sports drinks. WTF??? Anderenochrome and organ harvesting leftovers. It's sick enough I could definitely see the cabal doing it. No proof, but this dude is not going to find out.
The best thing I ever did for my health is to stop *all* fast food and dining out period. I make almost every thing I eat at home using fresh ingredients just like my parents and grandparents did. Yeah, it's a bit of work, but the rewards when it comes to my health are priceless. When we dine out we have absolutely no control over what is in the food we are eating. At least when we make it at home we can make an informed decision on what to use in our products. Bread recipe is 4 or 5 ingredients when made at home. Most manufactured bread has a dozen or more ingredients in it. And "Wonder Bread" has (if I remember right) 49 ingredients. Stay away from processed foods and you won't need the shots, surgeries, pills and crap that this system keeps trying to make us take!
"Yeah, it's a bit of work, but the rewards when it comes to my health are priceless."
For years, we have canned our own peaches, pears, applesauce, pickles, jams, jellies, etc. We know everything that goes into each batch and have modified recipes to lessen or eliminate sugar, ie applesauce = apples, cinnamon, and nutmeg. One year, after canning 20 boxes of peaches and 10 boxes of pears, we calculated how much we had spent on fruit, lids, gas to get to the orchards on the other side of the Cascades, etc., divided by how many quarts of fruit we canned, and ended up with a grand total of $0.75 per quart. You cannot buy a quart of peaches at the store for that price! And there is not all the added sugar and chemicals! And it just tastes better!
In fact, one family member's kids simply will not eat the store-bought stuff. We miscalculated how many boxes of fruit we needed to can one year and ended running out before the next canning season. She bought the canned peaches and pears from Costco - her kids refused to eat them! She ended up having to donate it all to the local food pantry.
Mrs. "the Knife"
I just finished canning a few batches of beef and lamb bone broth, from our cattle and sheep we raise.
Fla Mom, sounds absolutely delicious! I make bone broth from leftover roasted chicken & turkey, but haven't tried canning it. Is there any special tip you would recommend for someone canning bone broth for the first time?
Mrs. "the Knife"
I can broth alot. Start w/ everything cold. Fill jars, wipe rims, pressure can at 10lbs (for my altitude) for 30 minutes. Allow pressure to come down naturally (20 min). Done deal.
The above is for pints. 50 minutes for qts.
It was so easy! I use the hot pack method - hot jars, hot broth, pressure can at my altitude for 20 minutes pints and 25 minutes quarts. All the usual instructions apply.
Thank you! I will have to give this a try.
Mrs. "the Knife"
Same. And when I travel I pack a small cooler with healthy food so I don't have to experience the culinary horror of fast food.
So do I. I bring my own filtered water as well. I live in Florida so if I go out to eat, I usually get something like boiled shrimp and a side of vegetables.
Excellent. We are very much the same way, though we do eat out occasionally, but only after talking with the owners and verifying what we are getting ie. humanely raised meat , organic products, no seed oils, etc. Ditto anything made. Know two bakers who make organic products, and on the rare occasions I buy any processed foods, I do a thorough ingredient check. Fast food is a hard "never" . I cringe every time I see the crap almost everyone has in their grocery carts.
I’ve never found a restaurant which doesn’t use seed oil, even tho’ all the other boxes check. I’d sure like to.
There is a trendy, small , somewhat expensive, but
deliciously innovative healthy restaurant chain founded by Dr. Andrew Weil (many of you will be familiar with him) called True Food Kitchen.
They recently announced that they will only be using avocado and olive oils, and NO SEED OILS.
If you live in a metropolitan suburban area, you might have one close by.
https://www.truefoodkitchen.com/truestory/#:~:text=We%20were%20founded%2015%20years,to%20stand%20by%20that%20today.
Thank you!! I always ask about this and explain the reason to the server, who then heads to the kitchen to check.
Maybe they’ll catch on.
🙁None here in Oregon. Oh well.
…Still eatin’ at home.
Yay! There is a True Foods in Kansas City! I can’t wait to check it out! Thank you!
About a year ago, I was driving in the Florida Keys and there was a restaurant that had a sign out in front that advertise that they did not use seed oils. That’s the only time I’ve ever seen that.
It is extremely tricky. A few use olive oil, fewer still butter. Usually have to do things like order grilled or steamed to avoid any oil at all.
Olive oil will often be mixed with canola for profitability, especially now that olive oil has reached very high prices due to a shortage (I believe weather related?) We know this Greek born fellow whose family owns an olive grove in Crete and sells us EVOO by the tin directly. In this past year. he has had to raise the price quite a bit.
Mediterranean restaurants here are not using the same quality of ingredients they do in Greece and Italy.
There's little/no regulation on olive oil in the US. They can take a 55gal of canola oil, drop a few drops of olive oil in it and sell the entire barrel as "olive oil". Laura Taft @ The Coleman Olive Oil Company in Texas and Pawhuska Olive Oil Company in OK ("The Pioneer Woman" Lee Drummond lives in Pawhuska) is a fantastic source of olive oil information and quality products. She buys only from 2500 yr old olive groves in Tunisa. She spent an entire afternoon teaching me all about olive oil and balsamic vinegar, different ways to use them and even shared her own recipe book for me to take home and peruse. She's also a strong Christian woman.
https://www.colemanoliveoilco.com/blog
Concernedgrammy: That shop looks so lovely! ❤️ I also liked her story about the Texan!🤣
THANK you for sharing the link. I look forward to reading her entire website.
Once you have had quality olive oil, you will know that all the other is just crap. Thanks for the link!
I find CA or OR org virgin olive oils are good.
You’re right about adulterated olive oils. Most contain canola oil. Mark Twain even wrote in the 19th century about the olive oil adulteration! Been going on for a loooong time!
I was actually referring more to Mediterranean restaurants in this country adulterating oil.
I buy only Greek olive oil but I do the smell test.
Before I found our Greek born church friend who imports from his family grove, I used to buy an amazing Kalamata EVOO from Trader Joe's. The aroma was pure freshness, purity and heaven! (Not to kention the excellent TJ pricing)
Something happened the past year and they no longer have it.
I once bought a Greek one from Whole Foods: no aroma, won't buy again.
I once found an expensive family grove (numbered) EVOO from Sicily in an Italian specialty store. The aroma and flavor were pure heaven. It passed the sniff test. 😉Personally, I think the best tasting evoo comes from dry, further south countries or regions like Sicily, Crete or Kalamata in Greece, Tunisia.
A tidbit I once picked up from something I read. For a more delicate but amazing flavor EVOO, Florentine (Italy) is the best.
On rare occasion Costco carries glass bottles of it.
Wow! Great info here! Thanks so much!
Did you know that olive leaves also have amazing medicinal properties?
Yes, we lucked out w the Costco one a few times but seems to have gone away now
it's true - you have to check carefully - most major OO brands will have canola mixed in. you can also get pure CA olive oil, if you're not too prejudiced against Caly. :)
I have a friend with family olive grove in Crete. He imports. So I am good.
Concernedgrammy: That shop looks so lovely! ❤️ I also her story about the Texan!🤣
THANK you for sharing the link. I look forward to reading her entire website.
Great little side thread you started here! 😊
Yep. I’ve always asked that butter be used instead of oil. Can’t see the food prep, so can only hope they do it. :))
Me too. And unfortunately bc even organic ingredients are somewhat nutrient deficient, I still supplement with vitamins etc
This all highlights the importance of regenerative agriculture. As we heal the soil, what we produce on and in the soil is much healthier-the phytonutrient density is markedly higher! Consumers need to request regenerative products!
How do we know vitamins are safe? I used to take vitamins but the "good" ones are expensive and how much do we actually absorb? Most of them have sold out to big pharma.
https://chemtrails.substack.com/p/wtf-how-vitamins-are-made-trust-me
https://www.sassyholistics.com/who-owns-popular-supplement-companies/
Consumer Labs tests supplements for lead, etc. as well as how much of the element or vitamin is in the product. This is a membership organization; it's not perfect as they are pro-Covid vaccine. But at least they actually test what's out there so members can choose the best brands. They also test some foods such as olive oil, etc. [I'm not affiliated w/them--just a member for the last 5+ years.]
Arrrrgh! We think we are trying to do the right thing and when I read this it makes me sick. I have been having a twitch under my eye for the last 3 weeks or so. Trying to eliminate the cause, like no caffeine or taking B vitamins. Seriously. I am at my wits end with all this.
When I get that, I am deficient in magnesium. There are many types, but I seem to do ok with citrate.
I have been on mag and D (no sun in Idaho yet) since I started clean eating. I feel like I am in a bad movie, you know, the lady with the twitch? Haha. I am using blueblocker glasses right now, but I gave in on no coffee. Cutting it out didn't help and only made me cranky.
When anything acts up I start taking my MMS. It has always helped.
perhaps we're just getting old?
there's always something breaking down on me...often for no explicable reason.
i guess that's the bargain of living
I just can't come to grips with that. I refuse. Ugh. I still feel 15 years old and inept, but then I look in the mirror and think.."there is nothing good about being inept at my age!" Then I read about how they make the supplements and think maybe I can live with a few twitches. Trying to eat right isn't easy either, if you listen to how the hubritics are polluting our food. So, praying over my food and trying to eat right!
Stress is a common cause of facial twitches.
Yeah, I suppose it could be. I am also wondering about my electrical grid inside myself and if it is being messed with by one outside of myself. I wonder if some creep flipped a big switch to turn on 100G and didn't tell us.
In that case, many many others besides you would be twitching...
My issue with eating a healthier diet is the glyphosate on the wheat and produce. Still, it cuts back on the toxins we ingest.
I make my own sourdough and use flour imported from Italy. There are three ingredients in sourdough: flour, water, and a very small amount of salt. It is not difficult to make. If you have an interest in making sourdough, I highly recommend Mary Rose at Homestead on YouTube for instructions.
What time is dinner? Will be there shortly.
Same with us too! I will only go out on the rare occasion of socializing. I like knowing that what we have cooked is from quality ingredients. Foid is becoming so expensive both at home and out, that I eant to know that I am doing something beneficial for my health, not detrimental.
Everything in the supermarkets these days is pure junk.
We do quite a bit of our entertaining for socializing at home
Also USA food is far nastier than Europe versions. Example: McDonalds fries in America have 14 to 18 ingredients, but in England just 3.
https://boingboing.net/2015/01/22/usa-mcdonalds-fries-have-14.html
Lots of other examples:
https://foodbabe.com/american-vs-european-ingredients-in-childrens-food-see-the-comparisons/
It's best to make your own...
Exactly right. Quaker Oats with Peaches in the UK has 14v ingredients, and no chemicals. US version has twice as many ingredients, and chemicals start at the third ingredient. Also, many banned chemicals and substances in the EU are allowed in the US.
I buy Flahavan’s Irish rolled oats….grown, milled and packed in Ireland…1 ingredient: 100% whole grain Irish Oats. It’s delicious and if I can find it in MO. it has to be available in other states!
When I occasionally buy pasta I only buy imported from Italy brands. Ingredients: Semolina wheat and water. None of the additives the US has to add.
Or we can make our own in a few minutes. But then, who knows what’s in the flour these days! Wish I could put a wheat field in my back yard. 😆
You can buy organic wheat berries online and grind your own flour.
That's what we do. And baking our own bread from freshly ground wheat and other grains is very satisfying in multiple ways. We know exactly what is in it, as God intended it.
Our FDA needs a serious overhaul - this is ridiculous. My cousin lived in Ireland for nearly 10 years when she moved back from the states she pointed out the difference of ingredients / sugars in the exact same food product such as a box of Cheerios - I was shocked!
This country puts sugar or corn syrup in everything, like frozen pizzas even! The rest of the world finds even our sweets grossly oversweetened. (I have tried chocolate candy bars from Russia and Japan and they were not as sweet, but delicious nevertheless).
When I bake cakes, I always reduce the amount of sugar the recipe calls for..because in most cases, it is too much.
The American food industry has conditioned the American palate to crave sweetness. No wonder so many are sick. We are one of the most unhealthy countries. RFKJR often reminds us how when we boomers were young, we were a healthy country.
I remember watching the documentary "Food Inc" years ago. It pointed out that just about EVERYTHING is made from corn, even some packaging!
'King Corn' is a great documentary to watch.
The US grows way more corn than it needs, due to the
Farm Bill, and most of it is not fit for human consumption.
There is tons of the stuff sitting in silos.
A majority of it is processed in to High Fructuous Corn Syrup and is one way or another in 90% of the 'food like products' in a US Supermarket. The rest is used as animal feed. The problem is that cows are ruminants and can't digest corn, so they are undernourished and sick all of the time.
https://youtu.be/tbRHGHYMGpU?si=UWD_8QsICCbpQhWO
And isn't almost all US corn gmo and monsanto drenched?
Yes
Also +-90% of US soy is gmo and monsanto drenched. Label reading is a must if you buy packaged "food." In quotes bc a great deal merely masquerades as food.
FDA: forget about an overhaul. Needs to eliminated. Completely.
Bingo.
Where's the Argentina chainsaw guy when you need him?
Burn it to the ground imo
Fries should have three ingredients: Potatoes, residual cooking oil, and salt.
Fast Food Industry, please explain your need for the dozen other ingredients you use.
The fast food industry feels no obligation to explain anything. As with all corporate entities, they have one primary goal: profits. The end.
Yes, profits, but while avoiding governmental regulatory interference.
The added ingredients are to make the food item more addictive. Just like cigarettes/nicotine products. Nicotine is not addictive. It’s the added crap that makes them addictive, but they blame it on nicotine.
This is a leg of RFK Jr.’s platform. You won’t hear the CROGs (couple of really old guys) talking about this.
I lived in England for 10 years. They BAN ingredients we have in Everything! Also Subway cannot call their sandwiches “Bread” because of the ingredients!! 😳
They shouldn't be able to label their tuna as "tuna" either. DNA testing found no TUNA DNA in their tuna salad. Subway denies the claims saying it was just processed so the "tuna DNA couldn't be identified". I think I remember hearing it was a probably a cheaper fish like tilapia and/or a bunch of soy. Subway also got sued for advertising the "foot long" sandwiches that were only 11 to 11.5 in. 🤣
that is so bad it's funny! I hadn't heard about either the "bread" or the "tuna". jeeesh.
Yeah, we didn't find out about it until they hired Megan Rappahoe as their spokesMAN. Haven't been back since!
😳🤦🏼♀️
I read the percentage of meat used in Fast Food was more than what cattle could be accounted for, so I’m with you. Even if the rumor is false, I’ll be healthier for not eating at the Golden Arches.
I read years ago that the meat they use is not real or something like that, and that while you may feel your belly full, not one cell in your body has actually been nourished!
I think Mickey D’s USA fast food has been serving us some “Whoppers” with their ingredients?
Well, they save the ends for beauty products. Ask Sandra Bullock.
Even the salad dressing is a toxic soup, so ordering “healthy” food at fast food places is no better.
Yes, agree. Their salads in France were always amazing.
And for breakfast! I now put arugula or other greens on my eggs.
Too bad soy is now in chicken feed. Even small producers have to use the soy grains. It’s exorbitant not to.
It is difficult to find organic, non-gmo, no soy, no corn chicken feed. I usually can find a combo of not containing some but not all of these ingredients. My chickens love to free range, so that helps.
Agree! We have taken to ‘fermenting’ our organic chicken feed so that the girls get even more nutrition and it goes farther. Funny thing is, when they see me coming with the jar of fermented goodness, they get very excited!
That is so cute! Like our doggies when I get out the broccoli. Penny, the smart one is always first. Corgi, that explains it! 🤣
My Brussels Griffin boy LOVES fresh green beans. Our BG girl...not so much! 🤣
They are so funny! Our Wirehair pointer used to be pickier, and now wants in on the goodies. I hate to share my raspberries.
Chickens are next on the list. Kinda cold here in the winter though.
My daughter and her hubs had chicken in Alaska. He built a kick ass coop and they were some very happy chickens.
Looking for a coop outline - did he use a "pattern" or wing it?
I am sure he winged it, but made sure it was super insulated with a nipple type water thingy hanging in the pen. You can't let them roam up there, but it was a 20x30ish outdoor space and a place to roost and lay inside. I don't remember exactly the logistics, but where there is a will there is a way!
Thanks! It's a dangerous world if you're a chicken - they're definitely not the top of the food chain. Friends just lost a bunch to a bear who helped himself, along with the small goat he drug over the fence. Waah!
Good to know.
Look for cold weather breeds. People in Alaska and Canada keep chickens. It's amazing!
I didn’t know there were cold weather breeds, makes sense tho.
Yep...I got on the Tesco website a few weeks ago to see the food ingredients on their products. Most of it is just FOOD. Imagine that. Nothing that starts with an X.
Good links, thanks
Wow
If you look up the meat content of FF hamburger patties, most contain very little meat. For example, a McDonalds patty contains only 9% beef - yup, 0.09 beef. Culvers is one chain that actually has a real meat patty.
Did you ever see what an Arby’s real roast beef actually is? It ain’t real roast beef!!!
But with enough horsey sauce it's pretty good. Mmm and those seasoned curly fries aren't bad, even with 12 chemical additives. Hits the spot!
In-N-Out burgers are 100% beef.
We travel to California a lot and usually go once while there. I get mine protein style, no cheese, wrapped in lettuce, and can eat the fries because nothing else is used, ie, no wheat products.
Ok, yes, the seed oils are bad, but super hard to avoid. It’s extremely hard to travel when one doesn’t eat wheat or dairy. We usually just find a place to park the trailer and eat food we brought.
Yes... I enjoyed In N Out when I was there. We don't have that chain in FL.
Seriously though, you'd be better off eating the wheat and leaving off the seed oils. Look up how bad they are. You'll never eat seed oil again.
I'm sure you're right, seed oils aren't good, Mercola has done a good job educating people, but if I were to eat wheat I'd get a migraine and body aches for days. I would so love to have some Striata with butter... I didn't even risk wheat when I was in Europe.
Wheat, and other grains, has been so modified for modern agriculture, it doesn't even resemble the original, heirloom strains. My sister ordered some heirloom wheat and made bread out of it. It has very little gluten in it and sensitive people have no problem eating that bread.
I might get brave and try it one day but allergy tests showed sensitivity to wheat, not gluten. I always just say gluten because people understand that.
Not sure if the test was detecting actual wheat, or the modern adulterated, modified versions. I'm sure some ultra fancy high priced lab can test heirloom, today's wheat, and gluten. The test I took was expensive, I can't imagine how expensive that would be to test heirloom. Even if there is a test you have to eat the item for a few weeks before the test.
Well, truthfully, I don't think humans were meant to eat grains except as an occasional treat. Nobody enjoys a piece of sourdough and butter more than me but I generally do not eat bread. It's worst than table sugar on the blood sugar after eating it. Additionally, grain has defense mechanisms like lectins designed to discourage anything from eating it which are very problematic for human metabolism. In ancient culture, refined grain like bread was considered a rarity often reserved for royality. Now processed grain of all types has become a staple in first world diets and displaces more nutritious and appropriate foods. As a result, most Americans are actually obese.
Fruit on the other hand is meant to be eaten and does not have defense mechanisms that can harm you. I try to maintain a diet of pasture raised meat, a little fruit and some vegetable. I stay away from all carbs as much as I can as they are a main contributor to our epidemic of diabetes. All refined sugar is off my diet.
Hard to argue with that!
I love the protein-style In-n-Out burger too! It was our only junk food place we’d go and they’ve done a great job holding the on prices. Alas, ours was the one store they shut down in March due to robberies and theft. You’d see the piles of glass in the parking lot as you made your way through the drive thru. We’d given up eating inside (hence the need to park) years ago. 🥺 Commifornia, as they say 🙄
That really stinks. LA area? We usually go from Redding down, Lodi, Kettleman city. Luckily we can always go in. Just have to find a place to park the RV, lol!
My personal experience with fast food
Last year on my way to Daytona it got to late and we (my step son) and two dogs have to eat McDonald’s ( used to be a favorite) 30 year ago.
4 hamburgers and two fries and two drinks.
My step son and I eaten so fast because we were so hungry
My two dogs, didn’t even touch it…..
After that, I knew it wasn’t meet it has to be artificial made with bugs protein 😫😤😖
I was so mad at my self, because I have chosen convenience over principle.
MY BAD.
NEVER AGAIN
By the way we both got seek of the stomach after that.
What?! For real?...goodness
I know, right?!
Yup I heard that years ago..they are not real beef burgers. To me. they are gross burgers. Ugh.
The sad part of our national food disaster is that even in homes where children are fed home cooked meals, once they become roaming teens, they will be partaking a great deal in junk food and sweets.
Back in the 70s in NYC we roamed, but our fast food was a slice of pizza or a deli sandwich. No McDonald's in Brooklyn at that time!
And what is the other 91%....or do I want to know?
Soylent Green
ya know, 10 years ago that would have made me laugh. Today, it only makes me wonder....
That's what they'll be feeding ze bugs with; those colorful pretty chemtrails
heh heh
I think In N Out is real beef…their costs have skyrocketed. I rarely go there, and every time I do, their prices have increased another 30 cents for a combo.
Yeah, they were one of the few good ones. I guess we get what we pay for.
Hubs boat catches pollock and that is what McDonalds use for their fish filets. I can't speak to the breading or tartar sauce though. It is just all bad. We have stopped eating out. Just awful.
Pollock is a good fish, isn't it? The problem is the seed oil used to fry the filets. Seed oils are a killer and people just don't understand how bad it is for you.
Yes, pollock is a great fish and is the largest bio-mass in the world. They regulate that fishery pretty well. The best place to buy it is Costco, in the frozen section. Read the label and it will say Caught in the USA and processed here as well. Hubs boat catch, process, package and flash-freeze right there on the boat. If we were to eat anything, it would be that. I eat shrimp from the Florida gulf, but he just can't bring himself to do it. Ignorance is bliss.
Where did you find this info (McDonalds patty only 9% beef)?
Do you have a source for this info? My husband does not believe this and I can’t find a link on the internet.
Somebody did a YouTube survey on FF hamburgers. You should be able to search and find it.
Ditto.....and mRNA being juiced into many animals now, which doesn't just disappear when you cook it, because it is actually a chemical concoction. No thank you. I'll spend $14/lb for locally raised pastured meat, support the local food system and my health...
Hubby and I have a quarter cow (from a close friend, so we KNOW it was grass-fed/finished) in our freezer. I will NEVER go back to the crap they sell in the stores. Two neighbors have chickens, so we have an egg source too. I need to seriously work on everything else though. Everything is better when it’s local/organic/made from scratch!
Find a local CSA or rancher to get a share of beef or pork and fresh pasture raised chickens (and eggs). It's usually much cheaper than buying meat at the supermarket. Plus you know what you get. We get our grass-fed beef for $3.85 a pound. We drive 3 hrs one way to get it, but it's worth it.
$3.85 a pound for grass-fed beef is a steal!! Do they process themselves, have a high volume? My pastor is selling grass-fed, non-vaxed beef for $10/lb and he's barely covering his costs.
The beef is $2.85 per pound and the processing is $.99 per pound. We usually get a whole beef a year plus the free offal of about six or seven more. We feed ourselves and our pups for a year + with that. Our rancher uses regenerative methods on his ranch and the cattle are free roaming. Ergo, he doesn't have expense of feeding or housing. They are never injected and receive zero antibiotics or hormones. Our butcher said the meat is comparable to that of wild bison.
Where do you live? That is half the price I can find anywhere around here....but it is not exactly cow heaven in AZ...
Went to the farmer's market in Sahuarita AZ last week and there was a farmer selling good quality beef. A company called Homestead Butcher. No it wasn't cheap, but I wouldn't expect it to be. Also, all our countryside around Tucson is free range, at least the south end of the area....I didn't think to ask him if his was free range beef....but I think he said it was grass-fed. Ah, yes he did, I'm looking at his ad now.
I'm in Prescott. L-Bell is a great small farm in Skull Valley, if you ever get up this way. It's all free range, no drugs, mRNA, etc. Run by good folks.
Good to know. We're Texans and know good beef. We've only been here a year (almost) and are still learning the new ways!
Welcome! AZ is such a beautiful state. I hope many keep thinking its just a big desert. So much to see here. The Prescott area is quite stunning. Sahuarita is pretty too....a little too toasty for us though.
South Dakota.
We bought a half pig from a NC family farm. The taste difference is off the charts. Not to mention knowing how and where and by whom they are raised.
Yep. The domestic pork industry is fully jabbed up, but most I try to share with will not hear it.
Yeah, you couldn't pay me to eat fast food either. For that matter, I no longer eat out at restaurants because of the cheap oils and other crappy ingredients they use. These days, when you eat out how do you know if a steak is really a steak?
https://youtu.be/-UZ9wYNrSXM?si=ruFUUEOpwZzzAct9
At this point, all restaurant food and anything prepackaged is suspect. There is no real guarantee that what is in the packaging is authentic.
lol, a couple years ago my husband and I ate at a Mexican restaurant in Flagstaff, Arizona. They were so proud to state on their menu "We only use canola oil. We never use lard."
I said to my husband, "somebody better wake these people up and tell them things have completely flipped and they now ought to be bragging about using Lard instead of canola oil."
Yup.. We would have been out the door, and told them why.
Yeah, but for now at least it’s all government subsidized. Except the downstream medial bills of course. Pay me now or later they say. They used to ask at the FF counter if they could supersize the order for you. Now they’ve done away with that, they’ve only supersized the price.
Human meat?? Who's doing it and what does that look like??
This is an absurd comment. Perhaps higher priced cars are good too since car accidents are a major killer? And gas prices! Let’s pray those keep climbing TO SAVE LIVES!!! This is a free country where people ought to be able to make free choices with regards to what they eat without having all their money stolen through inflation. FYI your 401k retirement account is tracking downward at the same rate as inflation.
That right there started the day they installed this puppet, and wow has your retirements gone in the ptoilet since. Glad I’m not involved but I feel for the rest of y’all.
What does "in that context" mean to you? I don't think you interpreted the comment correctly before you called it absurd..
Oh my comments about gas prices were also “in context” 😂
Agree. I said it's just like Newsom's new firearms tax--11% added to the already existing 11%. "I know better than you" nudging at its worst.
When I worked for the California Assembly 2002-04, in the office we called them Nanny Laws. CA leads the nation in them, far and away.
I for one, don’t want inflation nor the government stepping in to guide my
food choices, my movie choice,
my healthcare choices, my ANY
choices. This is ‘MERICA! If we want to eat crickets and plant based “meat” (extending our pretend games wherein men are women and burning cars is GOOD) we do so. But if we want to eat cows that already turned plants into meat, and save the crickets to feed our hens we plan to BBQ later, government can stick it’s nose elsewhere.
I haven’t had “real” fast food in many years, except occasional takeout pizza or a Starbucks sandwich. I prefer to spend more and get better quality. Traditional fast food like McDonald’s, KFC or Taco Bell is generally just gross and unappealing imo 😕
It’s bad at high end dining too. Don’t eat out much but, splurged this weekend. $50 entree of sea bass, whipped potatoes and 9 (just 9) green beans. Fish portion was tiny and undercooked. $19 glass of wine was OK. Could have bought the whole bottle for $26 at the liquor store. Left feeling ripped off and hungry.
Our family used to eat out once or twice a week but haven’t been out much since Covid shut down our favorite spots and Biden doubled the prices on the menus … there are consequences to raising prices. Its fine, we are healthier this way and setting a better example for our children too.
That's how we feel every time we eat out. The food is so-so and the server acts like they are doing us a favor by waiting on us and act like they don't want to be interrupted. We mostly eat at home now.
Oh wow! We went out for a celebration meal last week at a small high end restaurant and it was amazing and cheaper than yours!
That wouldn't have been at Lucille + Mabel Kitchen and Libations, would it? The menu sounds amazingly similar!
Actually Taco Bell is about fifty times better for you than McDonald’s. It’s actually pretty real. And still cheap. Go figure.
I haven’t made a “south of the border” run in quite awhile and not gonna lie…I used to dig some Taco Bell…but sheesh the places we’re getting so filthy I just couldn’t go any longer. I’ve noticed that even in sit down higher end restaurants. I think if the front of the house is sticky and dirty…the back must be putrid. Ya eating out not a thing. Besides no one can throw down a ribeye like my old man! 😊
Yeah we just entertained a couple of my brides girlfriends from up north, so instead of me cooking every meal like last time, we went out to the good waterfront restaurants around here. Haven’t eaten since they left, because belly, but stuck to mostly local seafood or beef, but wow, is it pricey! Couple hundred bucks ain’t nothing for four people.
And Subway, where the veggies are all cut in each store. At least those sandwiches are not too franken-foodie.
But Subway got caught adding a rubber based ingredient to their so called fresh rolls to make them rise faster and higher. Frankenrolls. Nope.
And...their tuna salad sub was found to contain NO actual tuna!
Both myself and the hubs got food poisoning from their lettuce apx 7 years ago at the one that was outside Yellowstone. We crawled on the floor for 3 days and slept next to the commodes. Yep that’s never gonna happen again. Horrifying 😳
That will make a believer of you for sure! I decided that Subway was one of the nastiest of the nasties based on the smell alone. I think I’ve eaten there once about 20 years ago.
Our food poisoning experience came from McDonalds. Ruined vacation.
Oh dear! 😢
Jersey Mike's is a much better sandwich place. Real fresh baked bread, fresh veggies and big selection of real meats.
I heard the opposite😵💫😢
No. You need to research Subway food.
Alan, um…no. I think you need to do some research.
Recently discovered that Taco Bell now sells its sauces in stores. The mild version is pretty tasty--not perfect re ingredients, but still, now can add it to stuff made at home that is healthier...
Maybe more real but I’m sure they still probably have a lot of additives and junk.
Have never eaten a single item from Taco Bell. Never liked “Mexican food” but I haven’t eaten any fast foods for at least 20 years.
I finally abandoned TB when they removed the Enchirito from their menu during the plandemic. I believe the Enchirito was an original menu item as I remember my ex ordering that when we were teenagers in the 70s. Then in the 90s, they got rid of my favorite, the Bell Beefer. I have to say though, I'm much better off for the choice, tho.
Can't live without TB!.. .for real
The places you mentioned I would call "bottom tier" fast food. Not fit to eat unless it's an emergency and even in those cases it is better to fast. lol.
When I ate fast food it was usually "high tier" versions like Chipotle or 5 Guys. Even now I rarely eat either one of them.
We stopped eating at Chipotle because of their Covidian crap. Masks to enter and order but off once you sat down and not needed to move and go do other things inside the building. And that was in Florida in 2022!!! Insert middle finger to Chipotle. Started making them at home and wow! Most requested dish to serve for company!! Way better and we don’t charge extra for homemade guac 😉
IF we eat out at all it is 5 guys. Celiac family members can get a burger with all the fixings in a bowl and the fries are not in a shared fryer. But wholly cow it costs $70 for a family of 4 with no drinks included. Ridiculous!
Yeah, I didn't go to Chipotle during the pandemic for that very reason. I'll have to think about 5 Guys. I didn't bother to ask for no bun.
That said, I make both taco salads and burgers at home that taste good and I feel much better after I eat my stuff vs their stuff. As a family of one, if I make that, it's what I'm eating for the next few days. That can get tiring.
We love taco salads! And burgers! We very rarely eat out. I have never been a great cook and hated doing it. But in the last 4 years I woke up to the realities with our food supply. I also woke up to how bad the service is at FF and restaurants. Not to mention how bad the food tastes that we were paying a fortune for. 🤦🏼♀️
I started figuring out how to cook with good ingredients. Then last year I started growing my own vegetables. I would say we now eat better than we have for 30 years.
For one person I also get that. If it was just me…eh. I’d still eat good knowing what I know now. But it would probably get repetitive.
We rarely go out but once in a while I just don’t feel like cooking and want a break. It’s nice to be served sometimes.
Agreed! 👍🏻 It’s so fantastic to find a place we can feel comfortable with so we can take a break and be served sometimes.
Nice! It's so much fun to learn to cook now with YouTube. I get an idea and lo, there's a video. :D
yeah, some things are just off the table as they make way too much food. But it's a minor issue. Eating healthy is the priority!
I’m surprised at so many speaking well of Chipotle. The first time I tried it I had an almost immediate MSG reaction so I know their food is loaded. That was my first and only experience with them.
To me, speaking well of Chipotle just means they are better than Taco Bell. That's about it.
Someone said 5 guys is now using frozen patties, haven’t been there to verify, have you heard that?
Oh no! I haven’t heard that but I haven’t asked either. Yikes. I haven’t noticed a difference but now I’ll ask. Thanks!
Yeah I agree, if we are on the road or something I would go for Panera or possibly Noodles and Company or Starbucks instead. I used to enjoy McDonald’s when I was a kid and young adult but I feel like it’s changed a lot since then, and probably I have too 😆
On the road story. 20 years ago, mom, daughter and I took a tour of Italy. I was bowled over by the highway food! I would opt for a freshly squeezed OJ from the big machines behind the counter) and a delicious warm panini. There were many different fresh fillings to chose from, and panini bread is delicious, thin, and nothing at all like what is called a panini here. Everything here is reproduced as if on steroids! Mom would sometimes opt for their freshly cooked restaurant type dishes (rice and meat type dishes). The food was equal to five star quality, and they were highway stops/autostrata!! What a difference from here!
Yes people tend to value quality over quantity there.
I remember the 15 cent hamburger from Burger Chef. Fries were a nickel, cooked in tallow, and a little coke for a nickel. Boy howdy I must be old! But it tasted like food from heaven at age 10. One year I snuck off to Burger King after a full thanksgiving dinner only to find it was closed. So heartbroken!
I recall DerWienerschnitzel selling 10 plain hotdogs for 1.00.
Yes, I remember Burger Chef as a youngster and how great the burgers tasted, not like the artificial stuff in todays fast food... Oh to be able to taste that food again!
Hilarious about the whopper failure! I still enjoy one from time to time when I am in the mood, the best tasting fast food burger out there!
Your post made me smile thanks!
I made a "classic" hamburger recipe a few years ago. When I was done preparing the meat I recognized the smell. It was what McDonald's smelled like in the 80s when I was a kid. It was so vivid of a recall. Now it just smells like oil and chemicals in there.
Yeah I do remember it being good years ago and I definitely believe they’ve changed a lot.
Believe it or not it’s gotten better since the 90s when someone published a video of the “pink slime” that was cooked into “meat patties” … now the hamburgers are just cow meat and nothing else. I’ve heard stories there are “meat fragrances” in the patties but that is false. The other menu items though I don’t know … so many chemicals used for “cleaning” and embedded in the furniture and napkins and drinks and utensils/straws. I’m trying to clean up my family’s home environment and learning a lot.
Yeah I was thinking more the 70s… I feel like the quality slide started in the 90s. Probably the bad press about pink slime forced changes but I still think they aren’t as good as they were decades ago.
Our family used to eat out once or twice a week but haven’t been out much since Covid shut down our favorite spots and Biden doubled the prices on the menus … there are consequences to raising prices. Its fine, we are healthier this way and setting a better example for our children too.
I think issue is the utter hypocrisy of these commies currently in control:
They exhort their followers to be Saviors of the Oppressed...but it is the so-called Oppressed who rely on fast food for their "food pyramid".
And that's why all you see is bipedal food pyramids.
"Bipedal food pyramids" ... known around here as The Lardlocked Folk.
Lolol
Last time I had fast food I was in Ireland, and it's called Fish & Chips, wrapped in newspaper.
Yum!!! The real fast street foods of other countries!
It's a free? country and a place where you can create an eatery any way you want to and a great place to look up any information about what you're eating is you WANT to know. We should stop handing out money to ppl who eat out on it and teach them to cook for their own families instead of making then eat in fifteen minutes at a gov approved cafeteria all paid for by tax payers not sending their kids there and feeding them at home!
Bingo. Imagine that at one time, those on “assistance” were a little ashamed, and would never pay restaurant prices when they could feed their families for four days on one little restaurant meal. But now, what’s more important, nails, eyelashes, and phones, or your kids?
Plus they don't have to use the shame-inducing 'food stamps' anymore, instead they get a govt-issued credit card, so no one knows they're on the dole.
They can sell those too for cash! I NEARLY did a trade once and when i asked the cashier if that was a problem the guy followed me and my toddlers around the grocery store telling "racist" at me. He waited outside after I told management and management WATCHED me as I walked alone to my car!! This was thirty years ago!!
Have you ever noticed how grocery stores close and move around towns?
Imagine an emp that could selectively disable certain things! I have a list!
It's shocking what EBT can buy now. Let's go back to a big block of cheese and a bag of rice and beans. That's it!
It’s not just now, when I was a cashier at a convenience store for a summer job over 30 years ago, people came in all the time to buy ice cream, chips, sugary drinks and cookies with their food stamps 😕 Not to mention our prices on most items were higher than the grocery store down the street but they couldn’t be bothered to go there. I think if we’re going to have a system like this it should work like WIC with only acceptable items covered by the EBT cards.
Bingo! 🎯
More proof no govt will give two craps about people. If it cared it would be exactly that!
No junk food. No soda. No candy. No ice cream. Zip. Zilch!
Should only be allowed to buy vegetables and fruit, rice and beans and meat. How hard is that. 🤦🏼♀️
Right?! I mean the point is supposedly to nourish people who don’t have enough money to pay for food, not to buy them treats!
And the “treats” are keeping big Harma in business!!!
And that’s exactly why they’re allowed to buy that crap with food stamps.
Yup those are not meant to be the entire diet, just occasional! And bingo—blood pressure medicine, weight loss drugs etc. etc.
But, just like with wars, we've got to feed certain big entities, and to hell with people!
Where I live the farmer's market takes the whatever-they're-now-called cards, which is great, though of course it is still more expensive then buying frozen veg at the market. I don't judge people for buying easy to prepare or eat food. If you're working 2 jobs and have a family and live in a "food desert" your choices are pretty limited. It pisses me off that the best food is only affordable if you're rich - or live in the country with access to "farmer friends". I CAN afford to buy whatever wonderful organic / grass-fed etc food I want, but that is a pretty recent development.
Yes same here. I’m glad they can have access to that food and that the farmers can benefit from their purchases.
As far as making decent but cheap food goes, many people don’t know how to do that anymore. You can do a lot with a crock pot for example. And a huge bag of rice from an Indian or Asian supermarket is cheap. A lot of it is just not knowing how to make the most of cheap ingredients. Also even urban dwellers used to have small gardens and chickens so they had access to at least some fresh food but that has been made more difficult if not impossible. There are at least partial solutions to some of these issues but not much political will because keeping people dependent benefits too many of those in power.
I’ve seen where the food stampers go to Costco or Sam’s Club, load up a flat cart with pallets of soda, use EBT to buy it all, then take it all to their local convenience store (that they own, mind you), unload and sell it out of their store. Pure profit! There was a guy on YouTube that was following these people around and filming them. (Pretty sure YT took the videos down.) It was Muslim families doing this. They have multiple wives, but only claim one, so the others are all eligible for EBT, WIC, etc. It’s a whole racket and we are paying for it.
I don’t eat any fast food accept Chipotle occasionally. Not sure I’d consider it “fast food” much healthier ingredients than most places like McDonalds. I will say my daughter and I eat out a lot less than we used to. Even an average meal seems to be $50 for the two of us, which seems insane! These are middle class restaurants not 4-5 star…and I usually drink water.
If I eat it my throat burns. Proof of the horrible seed oils hosed all over it, in it and under it. They might as well put on the signs “—-Millions Murdered”
I went to Chipotle the other day and it cost me $18 for one burrito bowl and a drink. Yeah, that’s an occasional, once in a while splurge. (I got the queso blanco AND the guac, because guac is life.) Just a regular soda is almost $4 now.
Switch to homemade chipotle bowls. Much healthier. Much better!!! And no up charge for guac 😉
I thought Chipotle was owned by McD’s.
🤔 could be, I may have to cross that off the list as well.
Fast food is highly addictive. Just like cigarettes, people will continue to pay no matter how much it costs.
But then there is the pesky problem of not having time to cook or prepare nutritional meals when having to work 2 or 3 part time jobs in a 24 hr a day window to pay the family costs.
Exactly. And that is not unusual.
Surely fast food isn't good for you and not eating it would be a healthier choice, but because of subsidies on many of the things that go into fast foods (e.g., sugar, oils, dairy, meat), they have tended to be cheaper per calorie. For this reason, and since they offer quick meals to those working long hours with little time to cook, a high proportion of fast food customers are among the poor, so inflated fast food prices are an indication of how much inflation is especially hurting the poor.
Regular restaurant food isn’t that much better. Still made with mono crops and pesticide laden ingredients. Also crazy high prices for substandard food and portions. Definitely eating out less and less and ditching places that don’t deliver anything less than a satisfying experience.
As if they would choose something healthy instead because of high prices. They will probably just eat a whole bag of chips.
You've got a bright, if short, future with the Bush (I mean Biden) admin in their public affairs department. For more info please contact Billy Bush at the WH Press Office. I'm kidding of course!