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Aaron's avatar

Jeff, thank you so much for keeping the awake informed of what is happening in our area. I live within 6 miles of disaster and have a rental within 500 feet of Ground zero. Do want to correct something so you dont get labeled a disinformation spreader...they enforced a Mandatory evacuation within the 1 mile hot zone. This was approximately 24 hours before they blew up the vinyl chloride cars. The cars were venting product as designed through the safety valves when reportedly they quit which indicated a BLEVE could occur. Look them up and see how bad that could have been. No way to know for sure if thats the truth but supposedly thats why the charges were initiated..We have been stone walled by the EPA, NS and our local "leaders" this entire time. NS has been given FULL COMMAND of the scene since last Friday night when it happened.. Supposedly didnt know what was on the cars which is completely BS until yesterday?? The EP fire department is stating all their gear and trucks are contaminated and un usable...Contaminated with what?? They are also not telling us what the h is the contamination. I had an EPA and CTEH technician come to my property hired through NS to perform air sampling....Just checking for VOC's which readily dissapate...They are NOT and no one is looking for the particulate as products of combustion after 5 days of burning and explosions..I have experience with air monitoring, rail cars and chemical plant experience. I KNOW how bad this is.. the EPA lady who was at my house also knew that I knew...she stated to me to keep my foot on the accelerator if I'm not getting answers...she knew herself this "air monitoring" is a side show...My place had VOC's in the PPB range but <.1 PPM which is acceptable...Again the particulate from a superheated flame of this posion is WHAT? WHAT about this crap that was burning all Friday night when the accident happened. We are being told everything is safe...just like the safe and effective gene therapies....I as well cannot confirm the die offs but am hearing about as well. No national news is following and am thankful and blessed you brought this to our teams attention! Please keep following this and help us get the answers we need. My concern is how contaminated is my property? And what recourse is available to me now that my property is basically a hazardous waste site? Thank you and god bless everything you do sir!

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Jeff Childers's avatar

Thanks for the correction and the local intel, I will add an update. We're praying for you guys. Keep me posted.

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ShortLeggedDog's avatar

My immediate family is 41 miles NW as a crow flies from the site. Something that I don't see anyone else mentioning is that Norfolk Southern had another 20+ car derailment in Portage County -- Ravenna, Ohio just 90 days prior. Luckily it didn't involved hazardous waste...or so we were told.

https://web.archive.org/web/20221118134704/https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/11/norfolk-southern-makes-speedy-fixes-to-rail-lines-after-ravenna-township-derailment.html

Also, tagged on Twitter to a Neighborhood News young journalist who is on the ground today in East Palestine. @OneAddyAdds is his handle.

https://twitter.com/OneAddyAdds/status/1625514461422395392?s=20&t=T3cJ9QFAW1Cs8ZEgQEqSsA

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Copernicus's avatar

This is such an abomination. The handling of it.

I'm so sorry for all of you there. We will be praying for divine mercy and protection for the many people who are affectEd.

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JT's avatar

Wow. This is so disturbing. I shouldn’t be surprised as I’m sure burial of news stories which make government look bad happens all the time. But we don’t usually know it’s happening unless/until an affected person(s) finds a route to speak up. I’m glad you at least have this space to bring attention and firsthand details to us. I hope you have recourse, but if it’s there, it won’t be easily given. I’m sure a price will be demanded. Hate that for you and yours. Prayers for your health and finding your way through. 🙏🏻

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Politico Phil's avatar

Please keep us posted on what you learn. I am concerned that there may have been something on-board other than the "listed" chemicals that may have been illegal to transport.

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Oona Pilot's avatar

Ooh yeah baby. Remember the truck that overturned in WVa carrying 'vaccine' for a foreign country? Military hazmat teams came in, with FLAME THROWERS, they scorched everything, closed the highway for 24 hrs, put a no fly/drone zone in... Re-paved the road with new tarmac....what ever was that about? Hum, an inorganic-organic hybrid life form in the vials coming to room temperature and spreading via the water ways giving away the fact the jabs had nanobots and other nasty stuff in them? Just never know do you?

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ShortLeggedDog's avatar

I had not heard this. Interesting and not entirely refuted in this fact check --not that I have any faith in a fact check. But also note this crash site was near the Monongahela River. Argh!

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/sep/02/tweets/did-truck-carrying-moderna-vaccine-crash-and-did-p/

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Oona Pilot's avatar

happened. lived on border w wva and friend from area w nephews and family there confirmed.

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Oona Pilot's avatar

PS. And YES it was DoD Hazmat teams.. NOT locals. AND YES there was flyover/drone restriction. AND YES they used flame throwers... can confirm it all from the locals that had a peek at it all...

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ShortLeggedDog's avatar

I have no doubt that DOD was involved. Considering that the fact check spells out the DOD involvement with the products (prototypes by contract) as a countermeasure that sorta IS confirmation. Not many were paying attention and aware of this until Sasha Latypova & Katherine Watts work shed light and gravity on the matter.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

My husband and I were just talking about "what if that happened here" as the RR runs right through the middle of our small, rural (very conservative) town. My heart aches for you and your family and others that are living this devastating nightmare on top of the other nightmares we're all facing. I hope thst people will demand this story stays alive and people will be safe and justly compensated (I know that's literally impossible.). Try to stay safe and monitor yours and your families health. Look into how to detox, although it will probably be a longterm regime. Lots of prayers are being sent y'alls way. 🙏

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OnTheJump's avatar

This is just awful, Aaron. So sorry for all impacted - may you and yours remain safe !

Be careful - I would not place much trust in the guidance provided - and YES! , read the damned small print !

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NewScott's avatar

My guess is anyone who reported dead animals was visited by FBI or CIA agents who carted away the carcasses. Um I mean what report? What carcasses?

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Chelie's avatar

Aaron, I can only pray that there are answers and a safe way out of this horrific disaster for all who live there. Thank you for sharing your experience. It won’t go unnoticed, especially since there is someone like you and Jeff to shine a spotlight on this disaster.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Maybe Aaron can go on Tucker to air it out. I sure hope he does a segment on it

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Kathleen Nealis's avatar

The derailment did result in an explosion that woke nearby residents, who then witnessed flames "100 feet in the air." If I wasn't only 18 miles away and didn't have friends in the town, I never would have known this.

Apparently a couple of cars exploded, and flames roared for a while. What burned? What was released in the air?

Even after it was supposedly safe, those that returned soon had headaches, oozing eyes and puffy faces. Why no word on this?

Why are chickens even in Darlington and farther upstream dying? Why have my friends in Negley seen dead deer, coyote and foxes as well as dead fish? Why are all the birds gone? Again, I'm almost 20 miles away and it's eerily silent here. My Mourning Doves returned, as they do every year, but haven't seen them for over a week. No birds at all. And Little Beaver Creek, passing about a mile from here, has dead frogs and fish. And some kind of chemical slime that bubbles up when scratching the bottom or stirring up the water. Black clouds have been seen in the area from the "controlled" burn (an oxymoron if ever there was one).

Farmers are going to go out of business, with the sick and dying livestock, chickens, and contaminated crops and pastures. No more fresh milk, cheese, eggs, honey, maple syrup, beef, chicken or pork.

Where the hell is the media in all this?

Another question I have. Leake Oil gas station was right next to the derailment. I know for a fact that a couple of cars exploded. Why was there no shrapnel damage from that?

Leake Oil is still closed, but not due to any damage. Only the proximity. And a couple of miles down Taggart Rd into town, other gas stations ARE open. Like they are safe?

This is SO criminal. The ecological and economic catastrophes are being covered up. No doubt because neither the rail line nor the government are taking any responsibility.

KEEP SPREADING THE REAL FACTS ON THE GROUND.

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Broken Pottery's avatar

I'm so sorry this is happening to your area. Y'all should film these things you see, put a link here, post it everywhere. The word must get out. It needs to go viral and hopefully open eyes of those who are unable to see the covid and vaccine lies and that oor country is more than corrupt in every major institution. 🙏

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

I just read on another substack that with Agenda 2030 rules, the govt can confiscated "poisoned" land and move residents to other cities...smart cities.

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Kathleen Nealis's avatar

With their "controlled" burn, they've also destroyed the food independence we've enjoyed here. Think about that one.

There were better, safer ways to clean up the spills, but it would have entailed closing down the rail lines, and shutting down the town for much longer. And would have made the EPA and rail lines admit to the extent of the damage and actually taken responsibility for it. They have not.

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Laura Kasner's avatar

Aaron - I may have a way for you to get in touch with Tucker. I feel sure he will want to interview you.

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Freebird's avatar

Aaron, Thanks so much for the ground zero information along with Jeff’s report on this. In most of the country we aren’t hearing much about this disaster. I have family in Beaver Falls, PA which I believe is only 15 miles or so from East Palestine, and I’m extremely concerned about how they may be affected. Prayers for you all!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you for this additional information and the insights. Much appreciated. I will also be praying for you and everyone in the area, may God bless and protect you!!

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Shellie Willmering's avatar

I'll keep you and all in your town in my prayers. So sorry for you guys.

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ICI Grief (The Rebel's Hike)'s avatar

I am so sorry you are going through this. Praying you get the wisdom you need to help you make the right decisions for you and your loved ones.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Sincere thanks.

One suggestion - your otherwise informative comment contains many acronyms that I have no clue as to what they mean.

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RunningLogic's avatar

EP = East Palestine

VOC = Volatile Organic Compounds

NS = Norfolk Southern

PPM = Parts per Million

EPA and BS I am guessing you already know (and really, they’re pretty much the same thing 😆)

BLEVE and CTEH I will have to look up.

BLEVE = boiling liquid expanding vapor explosion

CTEH is an environmental consulting firm.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

WTFIGOH = what the frig is going on here

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OnTheJump's avatar

FUBAR = f*'ed up beyond all recognition.

Or.... SNAFU = Situation normal, all f*'ed up.

Not sure what is more depressing - what happened, or the idea that they will likely work harder at covering it up than they will at CLEANING it up ......

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Freebird's avatar

RunningLogic- EPA and BS….😂😂😂 witty!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you 😁 We definitely need to sprinkle in some humor or else it’s too depressing!! Following Jeff’s example! 🙂

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OnTheJump's avatar

Yes, as Mary Poppins said - a spoonful of humor helps the 'BS' go down ...... or sumpthin like dat .

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RunningLogic's avatar

😆

Or the EPA… 😬

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daiva's avatar

An unsought counter-suggestion: frame it as a learning opportunity 🙂 The absent clues are awaiting one click/tap away 🤸

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