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Credenda's avatar

Well the government hates the people. Unfortunately a lot of people have been brainwashed into policies that are destroying the people.

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Garden Lover's avatar

Absolutely. Thirty years ago, I taught at a private elementary school in Southern California. All of the 5th graders hated the US. These were ultra privileged kids who traveled the world. Their parents worked in the film industry and whatnot. I was shocked (then, I wouldn’t be now). The indoctrination has been going on a long time now. We have a long road ahead of us to get our country back. After WWII, Germany was considered a terrorist nation for 10-20 years until they could un-indoctrinate the Nazi youth. Not that Germany’s a shining example of the free world now, but . . .

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Dawn B's avatar

Wow. I have been teaching elementary gr 3-5 since the 90's to 2020 and didn't see it here in South Florida. However, I always promoted respect during the pledge like it was a priveledge and we sang the good ole patriotic songs every morning including the 50 states song in ABC order. My 24 yr old can sing it in warp speed to this day.

It makes me very sad. Teachers have a lot of influence and that was a great influence. Now you have to worry about them being groomed!!!

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Garden Lover's avatar

This is California. I don’t know if it was the teachers or the parents, honestly. Does it really matter?

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Dawn B's avatar

No it doesn't matter parents/kids but it wasn't prevalent here in elementary grades then. It is happening in upper grades now.

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Garden Lover's avatar

It’s being brought in by the teacher and pushed by the media.

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Dawn B's avatar

They are getting rid of old school teachers and employ the woke. There was a Veritas (I think) video busting a principal basically saying that they won't hire teachers with traditional values in the NY Long Island area a yearbor so ago.

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Garden Lover's avatar

I remember this video. It’s true. The school district where I live is self-destructing because of the previous and current board. Teachers are leaving like rats from a sinking ship, and I can’t blame them. I’m hoping people will pull their kids and homeschool.

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Dawn B's avatar

We don't even know how bad public ed is but I saw the curriculum for 12th grade. I was alarmed at the English, American History, and Economics. Occultish, racist (in a tricky way), and lies lies lies....Economics just taught them about paying taxes and playing the stock market! The American History BS is just too much to write here. They barely went over our Bill of Rights and Constitution.

Most people can't afford to homeschool unfortunately, or they probably would. My Florida county is buying curriculum supported by the WHO. Also, after the Stoneman Douglas shooting, 2 people that lost a loved one there, happen to get jobs as a school board members? They were also the ones that defied Desantis' no mask order. Coincidental... Strange...

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Garden Lover's avatar

California’s new math curriculum is going to churn out even more uneducated, math deficient adults. And I am well aware of what they are teaching in our schools, even though I homeschooled my child. In our district, so many people are angry with what’s going on that they are asking teachers (who are leaving in droves) about charter schools and homeschools. To me, that is encouraging.

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Dawn B's avatar

When they rolled out the common core math 12 years ago here, I had to supplement a lot for my 3rd graders. Most of the other classes didn't even know multiplication if the teacher just followed the curriculum. Meanwhile my students could reduce fractions and knew square roots!

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I hate to say it but we will never get back to a great country. Its end times!

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Garden Lover's avatar

I refuse to believe that. I can’t.

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AngelaK's avatar

Curiousity..Did they not like the US compared to other countries because we aren't as culturally charming, as let's say, Italy?🤔

Or did they hate the US for what it stands for? 🤔

Did they articulate what it was about the US they hated? (knowing that children always parrot their parents).

I do know that in certain groups in this country like those who predominate in Hollywood, there has been a hatred for Judeo-Christian values and

morality...but the hate, in my opinion, is focused mostly on the Christian part.

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Garden Lover's avatar

I honestly don’t remember if they knew why the US was horrible. At 11 or so years old, you’re generally going to be parroting whatever some adult tells you, even if you think you aren’t. It’s hard to form your own opinions without real life experience. Even teenagers, unless they’ve had more independence and supported themselves, most likely are still parroting the trusted adults in their lives. It’s only as you get out on your own that this changes. Mind you, this is just MY opinion. LOL

That being said, I think it had something to do with US’s arrogance and treatment of other countries, but don’t quote me. LOL

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Seeking Grace's avatar

Wow! Thirty years ago? That’s shocking to me.

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Garden Lover's avatar

It was to me, too, at the time, although I don’t know why. I’d already become aware that the media had an agenda. I just didn’t realize that infiltrated the schools.

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Peter GL's avatar

When we have removed religion from our life and instead idolise Hollywood actors and sports figures, and then they bash the country and take a knee during the national anthem, how can they not be brainwashed?

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Roger Beal's avatar

There is also the adulation and idolization of self, which is based in pride. This culture, going back to the days of Benjamin Spock, has created a greater percentage of narcissistic individuals than imperial Rome ever did.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

You forgot rappers and pseudo singers!

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Peter GL's avatar

A la Ancient Rome

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Debra (Rural & Red Oregonian)'s avatar

Today's "gladiator's" are just as revered and idolized as then. :(

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