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KW NORTON's avatar

Good reflections thanks. Believe Musk has perhaps belatedly come out with some common sense and understands what many of us have known for years especially about WEF. It is important not to mistake Musk for a free speech leader. I do believe he is jockeying for power. After all he has spent most of his adult life being a profiteer from the deep state. Lots of these types on the scene. We are being so played.

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M VARR's avatar

One of Musk's tweet that is earning the hate of tryrannical plutocrats.

Elon Musk: “Almost no one seems to realize that the head of bioethics at NIH –

the person who is supposed to make sure that Fauci behaves ethically – is his wife”

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RunningLogic's avatar

I don’t know. I’m reserving judgment about Musk. We tend to assume that wealthy people (heck, most people) want power. And that may be true in many or even most cases. But sometimes, what we think drives people or should drive people isn’t the reality. Like when leftists say that they don’t understand why rural poor people vote Republican, because it’s against their “own interests”. They assume the driving force and motivation is money. When actually, for a lot of these people, freedom and being left alone to do their own thing is far more important.

Musk is kind of an odd bird though. I think there is a chance he might be motivated by other things. Again, reserving judgment because I agree it is certainly possible he’s jockeying for power but I am not seeing it so far.

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Johnny-O's avatar

He's in bed with the permanent state, getting fleeced with many millions of our tax dollars. He wants transhumanism. He's evil, pure and simple. Don't be fooled.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I’m not fooled. I don’t hail him as a hero, I am just reserving judgment about his motivations. I will wait and see what he does.

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CMCM's avatar

Same here. Seems like it's not a good thing to become a blind follower of any one person these days. Musk is playing a useful, arguably important role these days, but it's also important to be mindful of the fact that whatever drives him, he is looking out for himself first of all. This is true for virtually everyone: looking out for #1. But in the overall picture, a lot of people will contribute important bits and pieces to overcoming all the elite monsters. If it ever happens, that is.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well said. And people are generally not all good or all evil, even the best, most ethical and upright people people are flawed and make mistakes, so we should observe their actions and note whether it’s mostly good or mostly bad and act/evaluate accordingly.

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Iron Horsey's avatar

Nothing belated about it, Musk savaged the WEF and he’s done a mammoth service for Speech. Mammoth. 🎯

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KW NORTON's avatar

No one said he didn't do some good here. But he has a Mammoth history. He is not Thomas Jefferson.

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Cyn's avatar

TJ wasn’t a perfect man either.

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KW NORTON's avatar

Not at all. But then none of us are. But there are some big misunderstandings about our entire history.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Musk is in bed with the permanent state. He's the ultimate limited hangout

https://off-guardian.org/2023/01/12/the-mother-of-all-limited-hangouts/

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KW NORTON's avatar

Yes. I read this. Very good. Wrote about Musk nearly a year ago. Lots of misunderstandings.

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OJen's avatar

We'll see. I'm glad at all the good Musk is currently doing as what appears to be championing free speech and dropping truth bombs-- and we can hope he has seen the light and has turned over a new leaf-- but it would be foolish to trust him (or anyone in power, for that matter). Keeping a sharp eye on him for sure!

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CitizenA's avatar

That is my position too, Jen. I’ve been beyond disappointed and have felt stabbed in the back by so many I thought I could trust, …so the one thing I’ve learned in the past few years is trust NO ONE, and question EVERYTHING.

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Credenda's avatar

Yes Yes! Please, please realize that Musk is fully on board with the transhumanist project. He fully embraces our future as human/AI hybrids, whose only purpose is a resource for data mining to serve the elites. Whether he realizes it or not, he is serving the evil one. He does some useful things but his greater agenda will enslave us. How easily we are fooled!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

“...trust NO ONE, and question EVERYTHING.” I believe that has been the case since ‘The Fall’, but maybe never more important for survival than in our present day.

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J Boss's avatar

Perhaps belated because he works 12-20+ hour days months and years at a time while we surf the web reading about the WEF?

Nobody's perfect. None of the founding fathers were. The question is, does he have the right good qualities to fight the good fight we face now?

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KW NORTON's avatar

Of course none of us is perfect. But I would look around for just about anyone to be a leader than Musk. Part of the deep state, the international Corporatocracy, and connected to the wrong ideas, science, goals to be a fit contender.

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M VARR's avatar

Is the international Corporatocracy a monolith?

There are many members and factions.....I would guess that some members of the club get out of line...maybe Musk was chosen to slap them down.

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KW NORTON's avatar

We are all suffering under the delusions engaged in by these international kleptocrats and their buddies. With the lack of real information and the being repeatedly played by these people we are in a very bad position. The real dangerous people in Big Tech dislike Musk but these are very big egos involved and huge profits and peer to be had.

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KW NORTON's avatar

There is a fundamental common sense to getting our spiritual selves right before we can effect change. We now have a long history of suffering from the opposite.

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Northern Gardener's avatar

Either you believe in God, or you believe you are God. A sad caveat of our times.

You who dwell in the shelter of the Most High, who abide in the shade of the Almighty, Say to the LORD, "My refuge and fortress, my God in whom I trust."

He will rescue you from the fowler's snare, from the destroying plague, He will shelter you with his pinions, and under his wings you may take refuge;

his faithfulness is a protecting shield.

You shall not fear the terror of the night nor the arrow that flies by day, Nor the pestilence that roams in darkness, nor the plague that ravages at noon.

Though a thousand fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, near you it shall not come. You need simply watch; the punishment of the wicked you will see. Because you have the LORD for your refuge and have made the Most High your stronghold, No evil shall befall you, no affliction come near your tent.

For he commands his angels with regard to you, to guard you wherever you go.

With their hands they shall support you,

lest you strike your foot against a stone.

You can tread upon the asp and the viper, trample the lion and the dragon.

Because he clings to me I will deliver him; because he knows my name I will set him on high. He will call upon me and I will answer; I will be with him

in distress; I will deliver him and give him honor. With length of days I will satisfy him, and fill him with my saving power.

Psalm 91

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Christy's avatar

Totally agree!!!

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Anthony's avatar

I believe Musk has finally seen the truth and broken out of the narrative. I remember when it started for me. For now I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that he has seen the light and is trying to do good, like Trump.

People have used his previous attendance to the WEF to show he's just grifting or lying. Hopefully now he's proven that he's changed. Let's make sure he stays that way.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Don't be fooled by the psyop

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