The Jews (and the Christians, but no one talks about them) of Nazi Germany willingly complied when they boarded the cattle cars for the "quarantine camps" thinking if they only complied it would soon be over. It was indeed too late when they learned the truth.
The Jews (and the Christians, but no one talks about them) of Nazi Germany willingly complied when they boarded the cattle cars for the "quarantine camps" thinking if they only complied it would soon be over. It was indeed too late when they learned the truth.
Actually ... just today ... I was thinking how alike the Master Race of the North and the Master Race of the Mediterranean are so much alike. Both like Marxist drama and put on a most excellent show. Both always receive Last Place in any truth telling contest. Both will loot at the drop of a hat anything not nailed down. Both never demur at a lives it takes to accomplish any meritorious goal of gain. Only the languages and uniforms are different.
What you say is standard Reformation Theology. Even I, not a theologian and not your equal in such, understand this as you say it. The rub for the many is at least twofold.
First, they the would be or partial Christians do not understand 'broken branches' severed away from the continuity of Covenant from alpha to omega, from the Foundations of the Very Beginning up and through the Advent of Christ and sealed upon The Cross. It is one continuous story. And the Church itself is Israel. I got it the first time I was so instructed. And I go that apostate Zionists, secular and atheistic, hating of Christian and 'Jews' alike, and bearing no connection to the soil of the Middle East (the largest part of them by far) could not possibly be synonymous with the modern state of Israel, except as a useful to them in lettered name only way. For my money, the honest and august Tooth Fairy, Goddess of the Child's Pillow, is more believable than this Zionist spun yarn.
The second thing sowing confusion is any idea of who or what a 'Jew' might be. And the confusion between such things as the words 'Talmud' with the word 'Jew'. And I can't think that the most of them bear any resemblance to the Old Testament tribes of the Hebrews. This too would consume many paragraphs.
It is as you say the Church, the institution ordained of God, is Israel. Not the Pretender God-State, Menace of the World.
Many paragraphs... LOL! Thanks Dave. You put it very well. But you give me too much credit. I'm not much of a theologian but the message of Jesus and the apostles is, to me, very clear when I divorce my mind from all the popular teachings on the subject.
"...from the Foundations of the Very Beginning up and through the Advent of Christ and sealed upon The Cross. It is one continuous story. And the Church itself is Israel..." Exactly. From Adam to today, the Church is Israel as identified as the body of Christ, the Second Adam, when we join with the saints in heaven on Sunday to worship God in the power of the Holy Spirit as one congregation.
I stick to basic things. And throw invincibly stupid stuff like Dispensationalism out the window. Instead, I am a great believer in the great Reformation era Confessions of Faith, and I love the Geneva and Matthew Henry Notes ... and John Calvin . With these, and people like R. J. Rushdoony, it's difficult to falter at the Wicker Gate or topple to the wayside of the Straight and Narrow. And I particularly love Pilgrim's Progress.
I regard most of the Western churches as being fallen and heretical. I echo Solzhenitsyn's comment with regard to the Soviet era and the Old Ones who said that the entire Soviet horror all happened because "Men forgot God". Not only that in America, men also forgot basic Christian doctrine. Instead, they said in their fallen churches ... "drink this the wine of Unconditional Love, this is my new blood. Break and eat this Bread of No Fear of God, for this is my new body." And Western Christian Civilization collapsed. And all lapsed into lunatic insanity, the kind of which eats the flesh from the inside out.
Thanks for saying out loud. And at least the usual reflexive idolatry towards that tiny god-state did not get its usual unthinking free pass. Maybe some of the world is waking up.
Well, it's not all on us. And we do what we can. In my case, not so much anymore. At 74, I now really have the appreciation of why and how old people (and also the very, very young children) dropped like flies during that prolonged seize of Leningrad by the Germans. In fact, the mass graves are still there and seeing them leaves its mark for life.
Also, we are in a early phases of the kind of corruption which existed prior to the time before the Northern European Protestant Reformation took hold. There was this prolonged period when people knew something was very wrong, and not long term viable and that something had to be done. But what? It took something like a hundred to two hundred years, plus the Gutenberg press until critical mass was reached with Martin Luther. And before Martin Luther the martyrs we plenty enough.
We are now surrounded by churches every bit as corrupt as was Rome was at the time of Martin Luther's famous visit. And today even Reformed churches so carrying that designation are fallen, the many or most of them. I know some of the people, a few of them, pastorate which have good Christian doctrine ... and these are persecuted by the media, and by groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center and so on. Not all the time ... but now and then. In the case of the West, I think collapse a la Roman style is what has to happen. Corruption does not reform itself ever. It is only displaced and that it usually only by the cleansing of outright total collapse. I suppose the Empire could go the way of the Spanish Empire, a slow dwindling with a final war as was the Spanish American War. But no one can truly say at this point. But it is certain that this mess cannot go on forever. And I can at least see for myself that the Empire is already marked for destruction. It's a self-inflicted autopilot ride to the end terminus. Even if all the right economic and monetary reforms were made, there would still remain all the Transhumanist agenda, the issues of techno-tyranny, surveillance enslavement and so on. People will not put up with this forever. And my gosh? What happens when it sets in to the mass mind that population extermination is a real thing? I cannot even imagine at this point. But it will happen because as stupid as the masses are, they are not totally stupid forever.
I'd like to learn more about this. I've barely investigated the propaganda used to encourage these folks to follow those orders 'for their own safety.' Were they coerced by outright lies? Was it just a 'grin and bear it' situation...did they believe it would be better to comply? Thank you for this information!
Well, I wasn't there so I'm open to correction but from what I understand, the German Jews lived in tight knit communities and when an illness broke out among them, the Nazis used this to label the Jews as an unclean race. Sound familiar? You'll kill grandma. So they declared a "medical emergency" and forced all Jews to wear a gold star on their clothing so "clean" people could avoid contact with them. You've prolly seen this in movies. It got worse from there. Eventually, the Jews were ordered to relocate to quarantine camps that became the infamous concentration camps where a death protocol was initiated. Again, deja vu, only in our case it was the hospital employing isolation, remdesivir and intubation, all of which were death protocols. People willingly boarded the cattle cars to go to the quarantine camps thinking that if they only complied things would eventually get better. They learned too late.
The Jews (and the Christians, but no one talks about them) of Nazi Germany willingly complied when they boarded the cattle cars for the "quarantine camps" thinking if they only complied it would soon be over. It was indeed too late when they learned the truth.
It was “soon over” for many of them. Just not in the way they had imagined 😞
Actually ... just today ... I was thinking how alike the Master Race of the North and the Master Race of the Mediterranean are so much alike. Both like Marxist drama and put on a most excellent show. Both always receive Last Place in any truth telling contest. Both will loot at the drop of a hat anything not nailed down. Both never demur at a lives it takes to accomplish any meritorious goal of gain. Only the languages and uniforms are different.
Just had an interesting exchange. This hopefully will take you to it.
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What you say is standard Reformation Theology. Even I, not a theologian and not your equal in such, understand this as you say it. The rub for the many is at least twofold.
First, they the would be or partial Christians do not understand 'broken branches' severed away from the continuity of Covenant from alpha to omega, from the Foundations of the Very Beginning up and through the Advent of Christ and sealed upon The Cross. It is one continuous story. And the Church itself is Israel. I got it the first time I was so instructed. And I go that apostate Zionists, secular and atheistic, hating of Christian and 'Jews' alike, and bearing no connection to the soil of the Middle East (the largest part of them by far) could not possibly be synonymous with the modern state of Israel, except as a useful to them in lettered name only way. For my money, the honest and august Tooth Fairy, Goddess of the Child's Pillow, is more believable than this Zionist spun yarn.
The second thing sowing confusion is any idea of who or what a 'Jew' might be. And the confusion between such things as the words 'Talmud' with the word 'Jew'. And I can't think that the most of them bear any resemblance to the Old Testament tribes of the Hebrews. This too would consume many paragraphs.
It is as you say the Church, the institution ordained of God, is Israel. Not the Pretender God-State, Menace of the World.
Thanks!
Many paragraphs... LOL! Thanks Dave. You put it very well. But you give me too much credit. I'm not much of a theologian but the message of Jesus and the apostles is, to me, very clear when I divorce my mind from all the popular teachings on the subject.
"...from the Foundations of the Very Beginning up and through the Advent of Christ and sealed upon The Cross. It is one continuous story. And the Church itself is Israel..." Exactly. From Adam to today, the Church is Israel as identified as the body of Christ, the Second Adam, when we join with the saints in heaven on Sunday to worship God in the power of the Holy Spirit as one congregation.
I stick to basic things. And throw invincibly stupid stuff like Dispensationalism out the window. Instead, I am a great believer in the great Reformation era Confessions of Faith, and I love the Geneva and Matthew Henry Notes ... and John Calvin . With these, and people like R. J. Rushdoony, it's difficult to falter at the Wicker Gate or topple to the wayside of the Straight and Narrow. And I particularly love Pilgrim's Progress.
I regard most of the Western churches as being fallen and heretical. I echo Solzhenitsyn's comment with regard to the Soviet era and the Old Ones who said that the entire Soviet horror all happened because "Men forgot God". Not only that in America, men also forgot basic Christian doctrine. Instead, they said in their fallen churches ... "drink this the wine of Unconditional Love, this is my new blood. Break and eat this Bread of No Fear of God, for this is my new body." And Western Christian Civilization collapsed. And all lapsed into lunatic insanity, the kind of which eats the flesh from the inside out.
Thanks for saying out loud. And at least the usual reflexive idolatry towards that tiny god-state did not get its usual unthinking free pass. Maybe some of the world is waking up.
We do what we can, right? I do like your turn of phrase.
Well, it's not all on us. And we do what we can. In my case, not so much anymore. At 74, I now really have the appreciation of why and how old people (and also the very, very young children) dropped like flies during that prolonged seize of Leningrad by the Germans. In fact, the mass graves are still there and seeing them leaves its mark for life.
Also, we are in a early phases of the kind of corruption which existed prior to the time before the Northern European Protestant Reformation took hold. There was this prolonged period when people knew something was very wrong, and not long term viable and that something had to be done. But what? It took something like a hundred to two hundred years, plus the Gutenberg press until critical mass was reached with Martin Luther. And before Martin Luther the martyrs we plenty enough.
We are now surrounded by churches every bit as corrupt as was Rome was at the time of Martin Luther's famous visit. And today even Reformed churches so carrying that designation are fallen, the many or most of them. I know some of the people, a few of them, pastorate which have good Christian doctrine ... and these are persecuted by the media, and by groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center and so on. Not all the time ... but now and then. In the case of the West, I think collapse a la Roman style is what has to happen. Corruption does not reform itself ever. It is only displaced and that it usually only by the cleansing of outright total collapse. I suppose the Empire could go the way of the Spanish Empire, a slow dwindling with a final war as was the Spanish American War. But no one can truly say at this point. But it is certain that this mess cannot go on forever. And I can at least see for myself that the Empire is already marked for destruction. It's a self-inflicted autopilot ride to the end terminus. Even if all the right economic and monetary reforms were made, there would still remain all the Transhumanist agenda, the issues of techno-tyranny, surveillance enslavement and so on. People will not put up with this forever. And my gosh? What happens when it sets in to the mass mind that population extermination is a real thing? I cannot even imagine at this point. But it will happen because as stupid as the masses are, they are not totally stupid forever.
I cannot disagree. I wish you had a clearer crystal ball. I'm right behind you at 72 and this autopilot ride is frustrating.
I'd like to learn more about this. I've barely investigated the propaganda used to encourage these folks to follow those orders 'for their own safety.' Were they coerced by outright lies? Was it just a 'grin and bear it' situation...did they believe it would be better to comply? Thank you for this information!
Well, I wasn't there so I'm open to correction but from what I understand, the German Jews lived in tight knit communities and when an illness broke out among them, the Nazis used this to label the Jews as an unclean race. Sound familiar? You'll kill grandma. So they declared a "medical emergency" and forced all Jews to wear a gold star on their clothing so "clean" people could avoid contact with them. You've prolly seen this in movies. It got worse from there. Eventually, the Jews were ordered to relocate to quarantine camps that became the infamous concentration camps where a death protocol was initiated. Again, deja vu, only in our case it was the hospital employing isolation, remdesivir and intubation, all of which were death protocols. People willingly boarded the cattle cars to go to the quarantine camps thinking that if they only complied things would eventually get better. They learned too late.