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Janet's avatar

I hated FaceCrap the small amount of time I had it. After a bit it, almost seemed like a “job” with expectations from others I had to fulfill. The amount of inane postings tumbling into my day, even with security on, just irritated me to no end and I quit. Deleted it a few years ago.

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Steph D's avatar

I agree! I’m noticing that even on many other substacks there are jerks and lunatics everywhere in the comments.

But C&C I believe, has an upper echelon of readers and thoughtful commenters. It’s clear that most of Jeff’s readers follow the ‘Golden Rule’ if you will.

Even when we disagree, people here seem to say it with courtesy and class, and without the typical nastiness found on other substacks and social media. It’s a joy to be here. 🙏🏻

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Janet's avatar

Yes. Here at CnC is worth my time. Some places a good comment devolves after into one sentence stupidity or attacks and then I’m out. Here I’ve learned just as much in comments as I have from Jeff.

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RunningLogic's avatar

There are a few posters where that happens but I try to ignore them.

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Bonnie Myers's avatar

I agree, C&C has a thoughtful, considerate group of commenters. I was on another substack learning about the Ukrainian war and asked a question about sources. That author was extremely rude and condescending. And her followers piled on. No use following people who can't have a decent conversation. I appreciate Jeff and his C&C army.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That’s a red flag for me, I won’t interact with people like that. And I agree, the people here are class acts and great to converse with.

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Kenaz Filan's avatar

I think there are a few reasons why Substack Notes is generally a more sociable place than Twitter or similar social media forums:

1) Substack Notes users are long-form writers and people who come to Substack to read long-form writers. If you come to a site seeking essays, you're likely to spend at least some time reading an essay before you comment on it. Imagine how much noise you could remove from Twitter if 90%+ of the people commenting on a link or page had actually read it.

2) Because you get more than 240 or 480 characters, you have more room to talk about the issues at hand. That means you get less people saying "You're a libtard/fascist" and more detailed explanations about why the poster agrees or disagrees.

3) The loudest trolls who find their way to Substack soon find that most people will block stupid provocations rather than engage with them. There's considerably less of the troll-feeding that encourages bad behavior and more social shunning that discourages it.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes!! I agree. And I’ve found the same on most of the other Substacks I follow.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Exactly why I ponied up the subscription price. And as others replied, there is a wealth of knowledge in the comments.

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Shellie Willmering's avatar

Same, I hate facecrap and I don't engage in the other social media craps, but I do keep face crap just for dogs. Since I'm unable to foster any more dogs, (I have multipleof my own, with issues) I am in many rescue groups helping to network lost/homeless pets. I swear if it weren't for them I wouldn't touch face crap.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes the groups can be pretty useful.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Learning to grow my own food thanks to a group on that nasty platform.

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Sharon's avatar

my self. ionly use face crap to report lost and found pets. left them before covid

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RunningLogic's avatar

I use it quite a bit and my friends mostly don’t overuse it, or I just unfollow their posts and check in every so often. So for me, it has actually been a good way for me to keep in touch with people who live far away from me.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

It is like a job, reinforcing the ‘look at me, look at me’ mentality. I now hate and resent seeing people bragging about their trips to Hawaii. Good for you, yes, its a pretty place, but don’t keep showing me pictures.

I do enjoy keeping up with out of town friends, and I do use fb like a job. I show paintings and jewelry that I’ve designed and it does attract new customers, but I suppose that can become annoying to viewers too.

In the last couple years I’ve been super lazy about posting anything but nature, my pets and inspirational stuff. I hate having a business page and a personal page. Thinking I should dump the biz page, I’m semi retired anyway. Any thoughts?

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SadieJay's avatar

So many people don't have FB and I feel like that limits your scope of sales. There is always Etsy for business. I dumped FB 3 years ago and feel like I am floating in space without it. I will declare that I thrive without it anyway. I have to declare that because sometimes I miss it but I declare that I don't!

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Karen Bandy's avatar

True, and getting more true as people are dropping fb and Instagram.

' declare I don't miss it!' That's positive thinking... I think it, therefor it's true. 😉

Etsy is tough for higher end items. A lot of jewelers hate how they treat merchants. It started out good I guess.

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