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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

The righteous will see and fear,

And will laugh at him, saying,

ā€œBehold, the man who would not make God his refuge,

But trusted in the abundance of his riches

And was strong in his evil desire.ā€

But as for me, I am like a green olive tree in the house of God;

I trust in the lovingkindness of God forever and ever.

I will give You thanks forever, because You have done it,

And I will wait on Your name, for it is good, in the presence of Your godly ones.

— Psalm 52:6-9 NASB1995

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daiva's avatar

šŸ—Ø For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. ~~1 Corinthians 13:12 KJV

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SpankinRedAss's avatar

Funeral service for my mom today. It helps reading this. Thank you.

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Jaci's avatar

May your day be filled with unexpected miracles and peace that surpasses all understanding!šŸ’•

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Oma's avatar

So sorry for your loss. Peace for the upcoming day and weeks. Psalm 121

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

So sorry for your loss. May God fold you in His everlasting arms today and the difficult days ahead.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

I'm sorry. Praying comfort and safety for you all.

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Christine Zuleger's avatar

May the Lord of comfort lift you up and bring you His peace.šŸ™šŸ»āœļøā¤ļøā€šŸ©¹

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Donna in MO's avatar

So sorry, may your fond memories give you some small comfort in this sad time.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Thoughts and Prayers !

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I’m so sorry for your loss. My mama passed in November 1990. But she’s still with me in so many ways and I know I’ll see her again.

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RunningLogic's avatar

My condolences for your loss. Praying for God to bring peace and comfort to you šŸ™

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Karmy's avatar

I pray for Our Lord to take you into His Loving Arms and comfort you during this time of grief. May she Rest In Peace and May perpetual light shine upon her. šŸ™

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Harrm's avatar

Condolences for your deep loss. Prayers for comfort and peace for you and your family.

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Juliann's avatar

My sympathy to you and your family. God bless and comfort you.

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ILoveherbs's avatar

I'm very sorry to read this. May you find blessings amidst the sadness. May you have what ever it is that you need today & in the days ahead.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

I'm so sorry. When you're ready, here's something I wrote about my mom's passing, including a poem called "Homegoing." Prayers for comfort and peace. --Janice https://open.substack.com/pub/jwordsbeyondme/p/homegoing?r=15f8sw&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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Freebird's avatar

One of my all time favorite verses! The ultimate comfort for the great unknowns.

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daiva's avatar

šŸ—Ø Our knowledge of the way things work, in society or in nature, comes trailing clouds of vagueness. Vast ills have followed a belief in certainty. ~~Kenneth Arrow (of Arrow Theorem renown)

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LMWC's avatar

I have heard this passage twice in the last week from different places.

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daiva's avatar

I keep hearing it on regular basis for some two years & counting; out of the azure blue at times šŸ˜‡

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

We need God more and more. Thanks, Janice.

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DenverDad's avatar

We’ve needed him always, some of us take longer to realize it. The unchosen don’t know till judgement. Spread the Gospel!

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Christine Zuleger's avatar

The Main thing... is to Keep the Main thing ... THE MAIN THING āœļøšŸŒŽšŸŒšŸŒ John 3:16,17

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Rex Lady's avatar

Thank you. Just the encouragement I needed after reading this post! God Bless You, God Bless Jeff, & God Bless Elon.

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Kim's avatar

I just saw the first showing of Sound of Freedom movie. It is a must see! The theater was packed!

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Linda A's avatar

We went for the 6pm viewing and it was sold out. Bought tickets for Thursday afternoon!

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ILoveherbs's avatar

I have plans to see on Thursday with a friend.

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Juliann's avatar

Thank you Janice! Prayers for you regularly. ā¤ļøā¤ļø

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Thank you so much, Juliann. Many blessings to you! -Janice

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

Great breakdown on Twitter and the data scraping topic, Mr. Childers. This is my professional sphere but yours is the best explanation I have read so far.

I suspect this activity is taking place here on Substack as many will recall the 'Hannah Williams' bot randomly 'liking' comments a few months ago. I've learned to use the block feature on Substack liberally but I'm still not sure what it actually does.

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Emil's avatar

Seems like limiting data scraping is a good thing. And it is hard to see why real people would be complaining anyway. 10,000 tweets a day! That means looking at tweets your entire day! Elon is doing Twitter-addicted people a favor. There is a whole wonderful world out there people. Look up from your phone!

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Susan Banks's avatar

Yes!!! I’m telling all these young kids to go to school to be neck doctors because we will need it! Everyone’s head is down on their phone!! I hate it!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Great advice šŸ˜šŸ˜† Chiropractors too!

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walk2write's avatar

Massage therapists and fitness trainers can help a lot with the neck and shoulder problems.

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Shy Boy's avatar

Scraping is strictly for those too cheap to use the official backdoors:

https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/twitter-api/enterprise

Elon just wants his big customers to cough up some dough.

The spooks can still (ab)use the FISA backdoors. They always will. That's a big part of why there even is such a thing as Twitter.

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DefCon-5's avatar

Exactly, and here is their biggest enterprise customer, which is no surprise.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/bb-google-scrape-everything-post-online-ai/

Methinks these limits will not apply to their enterprise customers with their paid for back doors.

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DefCon-5's avatar

Scraping is for retail customers, and direct DB exporting is for their wholesale enterprise customers? Little or nothing has probably changed from what was exposed in the 'Twit Files'.

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

Exactly what I thought. I don’t know how you’d get through 1000 in a day but I’m a casual user.

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GreaterIsrahell's avatar

A thousand tweets/day x a thousand accounts = 1.000.000 scrapes. Multiply again with the actuall number, and you get an astronomic result.

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FH's avatar

Yup!!! And here’s a video eloquently making that point, about 4 minutes: https://youtu.be/QugooaNRnsk

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Similar to how I view the captured masses, so incredibly tragic.

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CuiBono?'s avatar

My thoughts exactly. Wow?!

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Jeff does a great presentation here of the Twitter (and others) data scraping! Thank you! Conservative Treehouse is a fantastic resource for truth-seekers. Run by Sundance, who always shares great analysis and deep dives of issues of our time. I like seeing his long and Jeff's short form insights regularly. Here's his take on same subject:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/07/01/elon-musk-is-self-immolating-on-twitter-and-being-disingenuous-about-the-reasoning/

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Ha! I knew someone would have already reposted this. But anything posted by Sundance deserves many repostingšŸ’„

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

John Cougar Misanthrope... it’s on substack already . A few substack writers refused to acknowledge it.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

PS … One told me ā€œ it’s great entertainment ā€œ. ( pss.. then the stack writer should not write such serious prolific writing) .

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Ami's avatar

If the data scraping bots increase their number of accounts to do the scraping, can they not still collect all the data, although a bit slower perhaps? Will the limits accomplish what the outcome wanted?

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DefCon-5's avatar

Yes, that sounds like one way around the account limits.

Also, Twit gets paid by the spook agencies anyway, so their added cost is not a concern.

In return for their paid accounts the limits may not apply to the spook accounts either?

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SomeDude's avatar

not sure when they rolled out blocking on here but I've definitely used the feature since I saw it.

would've used it a lot more if it'd been implemented sooner

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes, great example! I haven’t figured out how to block anyone but that may be because I’m not a paying subscriber?

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

Click the link on a particular commenter's name. That will take you to their page. Click on the three dots to the right of their name and you will be given options to follow them, mute them, and/or block them.

Again, I'm not sure what these features actually do. I was hoping that muting someone meant that I would no longer see their posts but it doesn't appear to work that way.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I just clicked on your name, saw your page, but no 3 dots to the right.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

However I clicked on Running Logic, saw three dots, but only got to report; and I would never do that to such a logical person…

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SadieJay's avatar

I see the 3 dots after a comment on here and can report someone. I can block comments and people on my blog as the writer.

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Kim's avatar

Dang. I should have known that Erica was a govt snitch bot. But, it sounded just like every crazy Democrat I’ve ever had to listen to. šŸ™„Amazing.

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CaplT's avatar

Experimenting at how gullible people are and plan how to increase effectiveness.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Exactly, but a bit more sophisticated than that. Check out "Sentient World Simulation".

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SB's avatar

At least the bots know the libs are crazy!

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daiva's avatar

šŸ—Ø ...and ooooooooohhhh, I blew my stack 🤪

youtu.be/NdCAUbqgFPw?t=10

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RunningLogic's avatar

I know, I’ve heard lots of real people on the left say these exact kinds of things. Like the interviews with lefties about voter ID.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Honestly, reading this today makes me sick to my stomach. Every ā€œlikeā€, or ā€œshareā€ or comment (which Jeff told us could be dug up even after it is deleted -texts included) is being used against us. While the premise for social media was to connect us with family and friends all over the world, as always what is good gets used to perpetrate evil. I’ve taken a step back more recently anyway, but I’m seriously thinking I may stop commenting, stop giving ā€œlikesā€ or shares or anything that is traceable back to me. Honestly, we’ve probably all given too much personal information or personal beliefs and thoughts on social media over the years. No wonder their psyop’s work so well. Ugh. I’ll keep reading Jeff’s C&C. But I’m re-thinking all of the interaction on social media now. It feels more like a yucky new world.

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ICI Grief (The Rebel's Hike)'s avatar

I've had that thought, but they already have us anyway. I figure I might as well enjoy the fellowship of people walking the same path as I and trust God for the future. I'm not on anything but substack, YouTube, and Rumble I think.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Ya, I thought about that too. Plus, then they win by censoring us which doesn't sit well with me either. I've said enough on my own pages already that you are correct. My thought was I don't want to give them any more ammunition to use against me. But, maybe I need to be thinking I won't go down without a fight. Ugh. Technology can be so good and so bad at the same time. I long for the days pre-tech when we just lived in our own circle.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Let's not forget, the real problem here is that Gov't, the USG, has become our enemy. That is the definition of an unhealthy society. I don't know how it's going to change but we are literally in a war and it's bound to get a lot worse. If the border situation is any indication, this war is going to go kinetic on a wide scale....and the Gov't can control the whole thing WITHOUT DIRECT INVOLVEMENT through the use of AI.

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Politico Phil's avatar

BTW, we are seeing this play out right now in France. Coming soon to a town near you.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Amid violent riots in France, the two main police unions have declared in a written statement that France is in a civil war and warned the government that once the rule of law is restored, the police will be in the ā€œresistanceā€ against the government.

In a remarkable, strongly worded statement posted on social media on June 30, the Alliance Police Nationale and UNSA wrote: ā€œToday the police are in combat because we are at war, tomorrow we will be in resistance and the government should realize that.ā€

https://amgreatness.com/2023/07/03/in-remarkable-statement-french-police-unions-condemn-savage-hordes-say-france-is-in-a-civil-war/

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SadieJay's avatar

Thanks for that, as usual, Phil. 'They' are happy when America is ignorant. The more selfish and self centered people are, the less they care about the world around them. And, as a result they are easily manipulated by headlines, just like cattle being led to the slaughter. Psyop on a grand scale. Propaganda from a Nazis wet dream is being flung at us and most of it sticks to everyone is some way. I don't believe anything.

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Shellie Willmering's avatar

My thoughts also. But, thinking about that, they also win by isolating us from friends/family/community and if we cut ourselves off, then where does that leave all of us? AI is huge, but we, together, have to remain even bigger and stronger or end up in solitary confinement of our own little worlds. Bad people always take what was made to be good, and make it bad. Well, we can do the same and make what is good or bad, good.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

How about this thought: we had the ability to connect with folks we loved, or even gave a minimal hoot about, long before the advent of the World Wide Web.

Letters. Telegrams. Phone.

Am not including via smoke signals...

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Shellie Willmering's avatar

True, but interaction with the lovely like-minded folks on this sub-stack would almost certainly never have occurred if it weren't for the www. Meeting any of you wonderful folks personally is even less of a chance. Therefore, I'm thankful we have this platform. But, truth be told, I wish AL Gore never invented the internet! LOL but here we are, JMHO.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

"But, truth be told, I wish AL Gore never invented the internet!"

🤣🤣🤣

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ASK's avatar

Getting the impression that sitting back, reading for information but not engaging on Twitter is the way to go. Sounds like the govt is scraping for info on us all to use against us.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Maybe we can reverse scrape them šŸ˜†

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SadieJay's avatar

Yeah, off the bottom of our shoe! Eff the lot of them. I can continue along as I am, because I am not undoing anything I have said. They can pry my words from my cold dead hands because I know what I know. They are a bunch of cyber-psyop-bullies who want to shape our behavior and see how well they manage us. Yeah. NO. Make me. I am not walking back WHO I AM. So there.

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Shy Boy's avatar

You can feed them specially-formulated bullshit in quantity and try and steer the algos. That's called "chaff" in some circles.

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J Kaz's avatar

They don’t need anything on you... they don’t play fair..... opinions and personal beliefs are fair game then society is lost and will cease to exist

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Good point. Look at J6 POWs. Look at Trump. Look at everyone they have gone after in the last few years, and even before that. What’s interesting is that look back at what they (meaning the devil) did to Jesus. They had no case. He had done nothing wrong. Yet they (political leaders of their time) drummed up some false info and false witnesses and voila! There is nothing new under the sun. It’s all been done before at one time or another.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good point, they can just make stuff up.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

And they have been.

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AusYank's avatar

Can we pass laws to punish the Ericas for fraud?

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Karen Bandy's avatar

We lived in our own circle Sunnydaze and the ignorance was bliss šŸ˜‰

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And yet I appreciate what technology does for me.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Yup. And, yet look at the destruction too. It’s a tough one. Are the gains and sacrifices worth it? Idk. Going backward 30 years technology wise sounds good too. šŸ˜‰

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Idk either. We certainly seem on the verge of another Tower of Babel time. And considering that all our communications are like a lot of babble floating through the air…. ā€œWe battle not against flesh and blood, but powers and principalities of the air.ā€ Eph 6:12. And then comes the wonderful, ā€œWherefore take unto yourselves the whole armor of Godā€¦ā€ Eph 6:13-20.

I resisted the ā€˜cell phone craze’, hoping it would pass. Now I’m using it for good to the best of my abilities. Someone on here today spoke to the need for us all to ā€˜preach the gospel’, which is certainly true. And never could so many be reached with so little effort, so there’s certainly that.

Just please don’t wish us back to the early 1950s. My poor mama’s wash day started with making a fire under a big iron pot and went downhill from there.

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SadieJay's avatar

I have often used the idea that the headhunter's grandson in the jungles of Borneo now cannot live without his iPhone. The Lord is not limited to the physicality of human presence when people find him, even if it is a televised internet revival. I have a feeling more people than not have had a chance to know the living God, hence, the closer we draw toward the end. But, I am only one chick with an opinion!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I think your opinion is right on target! Even ā€œthe headhunter’s grandson in the jungles of Borneoā€ has access to hearing the gospel and if he can read some, there’s no doubt an online translation of the Bible in his own language.

The Devil just thinks he’s so clever.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I was with you…then you made me laugh! I really don’t wanna go that backwards. šŸ˜‚ I do like waking up in a bed and pushing a button for coffee. šŸ˜‚

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S.P.H.'s avatar

I would just like a toaster made in America.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I used to run around to two or three drug stores and a supermarket or two looking for a particular shade of lipstick. Now with some keystrokes, it gets delivered to me on a schedule. One item out of many. I’m an older person. I can’t do that running around anymore, nor do I want to.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And if I want information, it’s just right in front of me. And I can discern between the truth and misinformation quite well.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I totally agree! Let them try to count the grains of sand on the seashore and the stars in the sky. Let them try to lock us all up. In the end we win because God is in control.

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Katrina the Hurricane's avatar

At least we will all be in jail together šŸ‘

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I’ve had a Twitter account for a long time, I do nothing but read there.

There was a period of time, when it was difficult to access the tweets without an account.

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Janet's avatar

I hated FaceCrap the small amount of time I had it. After a bit it, almost seemed like a ā€œjobā€ with expectations from others I had to fulfill. The amount of inane postings tumbling into my day, even with security on, just irritated me to no end and I quit. Deleted it a few years ago.

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Steph D's avatar

I agree! I’m noticing that even on many other substacks there are jerks and lunatics everywhere in the comments.

But C&C I believe, has an upper echelon of readers and thoughtful commenters. It’s clear that most of Jeff’s readers follow the ā€˜Golden Rule’ if you will.

Even when we disagree, people here seem to say it with courtesy and class, and without the typical nastiness found on other substacks and social media. It’s a joy to be here. šŸ™šŸ»

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Janet's avatar

Yes. Here at CnC is worth my time. Some places a good comment devolves after into one sentence stupidity or attacks and then I’m out. Here I’ve learned just as much in comments as I have from Jeff.

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RunningLogic's avatar

There are a few posters where that happens but I try to ignore them.

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Bonnie Myers's avatar

I agree, C&C has a thoughtful, considerate group of commenters. I was on another substack learning about the Ukrainian war and asked a question about sources. That author was extremely rude and condescending. And her followers piled on. No use following people who can't have a decent conversation. I appreciate Jeff and his C&C army.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That’s a red flag for me, I won’t interact with people like that. And I agree, the people here are class acts and great to converse with.

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Kenaz Filan's avatar

I think there are a few reasons why Substack Notes is generally a more sociable place than Twitter or similar social media forums:

1) Substack Notes users are long-form writers and people who come to Substack to read long-form writers. If you come to a site seeking essays, you're likely to spend at least some time reading an essay before you comment on it. Imagine how much noise you could remove from Twitter if 90%+ of the people commenting on a link or page had actually read it.

2) Because you get more than 240 or 480 characters, you have more room to talk about the issues at hand. That means you get less people saying "You're a libtard/fascist" and more detailed explanations about why the poster agrees or disagrees.

3) The loudest trolls who find their way to Substack soon find that most people will block stupid provocations rather than engage with them. There's considerably less of the troll-feeding that encourages bad behavior and more social shunning that discourages it.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes!! I agree. And I’ve found the same on most of the other Substacks I follow.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Exactly why I ponied up the subscription price. And as others replied, there is a wealth of knowledge in the comments.

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Shellie Willmering's avatar

Same, I hate facecrap and I don't engage in the other social media craps, but I do keep face crap just for dogs. Since I'm unable to foster any more dogs, (I have multipleof my own, with issues) I am in many rescue groups helping to network lost/homeless pets. I swear if it weren't for them I wouldn't touch face crap.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes the groups can be pretty useful.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Learning to grow my own food thanks to a group on that nasty platform.

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Sharon's avatar

my self. ionly use face crap to report lost and found pets. left them before covid

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RunningLogic's avatar

I use it quite a bit and my friends mostly don’t overuse it, or I just unfollow their posts and check in every so often. So for me, it has actually been a good way for me to keep in touch with people who live far away from me.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

It is like a job, reinforcing the ā€˜look at me, look at me’ mentality. I now hate and resent seeing people bragging about their trips to Hawaii. Good for you, yes, its a pretty place, but don’t keep showing me pictures.

I do enjoy keeping up with out of town friends, and I do use fb like a job. I show paintings and jewelry that I’ve designed and it does attract new customers, but I suppose that can become annoying to viewers too.

In the last couple years I’ve been super lazy about posting anything but nature, my pets and inspirational stuff. I hate having a business page and a personal page. Thinking I should dump the biz page, I’m semi retired anyway. Any thoughts?

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SadieJay's avatar

So many people don't have FB and I feel like that limits your scope of sales. There is always Etsy for business. I dumped FB 3 years ago and feel like I am floating in space without it. I will declare that I thrive without it anyway. I have to declare that because sometimes I miss it but I declare that I don't!

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Karen Bandy's avatar

True, and getting more true as people are dropping fb and Instagram.

' declare I don't miss it!' That's positive thinking... I think it, therefor it's true. šŸ˜‰

Etsy is tough for higher end items. A lot of jewelers hate how they treat merchants. It started out good I guess.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Still on fb. I and my friends post nothing but Scriptures and spiritual encouragement and warnings. And a far side comic relief occasionally. Most of my relatives completely ignore me but i did get royally reamed out for being a Pharisee once. No doubt there are many others who think the same. They have Scripture tattoos.

God will judge between us.

It's not how you begin but how you end.

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Oma's avatar

It’s the only place I can still witness to my liberal friends and familyšŸ˜

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SadieJay's avatar

Far Side. My favorite. I usually always find one to correspond to whatever I am writing on my Substack.

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Datagal's avatar

Maybe there’s a ā€œsafeā€ way to acknowledge or like a comment. Make up our own code words. For example, if I like an object at a flea market but don’t want the seller to know and then charge me more, I’ll tell my partner: ā€œThis reminds me of Molly.ā€ If I think an object is awful but don’t want to embarrass the seller, I say ā€œThis reminds me of Ed.ā€

Thoughts?

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Haha. I like that.

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WA Lunch Lady's avatar

Perfect! I wish more customers did this at the farmers markets 😁

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Justin's avatar

When people are confident in who they are, and why they think what they think, then there's no successful harm by people/government trying to manipulate that.

They will have to expend great amounts of energy to be able to twist reality for those who are truly wise, and even humble to the promptings of the spirit of our Heavenly Father - the source of all truth.

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none none's avatar

It just shows us that -when possible- face to face human interaction is what's important.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Don't worry, eventually the pendulum will swing the other way. Social media will be abandoned. Lovers of literature and culture will recite, verbatim, the Bible and classic books, which will be written down on vellum and eventually reproduced on printing press.

And then it starts all over again.

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Shelle's avatar

Nothing's perfect, but I recommend taking some steps like getting a non-google email that prioritizes privacy. You can use lots of email aliases then. At least that's what mine lets me do. That increases your privacy. Also, get a VPN.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Part of why I never did politics on Facebook. No likes or shares or posts on anything political that is public and very limited in private groups. Not that those can’t be found but I figure that it’s like thieves and locking your door or not leaving valuables in your car. It doesn’t mean they can’t break in but they’re more likely to seek easier targets.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Erica's bot teaches us that fear is the product we generate for AI, and AI needs us more than we need it. This fear and loathing is exacerbated by blue light that drains our dopamine: https://romanshapoval.substack.com/p/the-1-emf-youve-forgotten-about.

The answer? More sunshine and infrared light to build our skin and brains' with common sense:

https://romanshapoval.substack.com/p/pale-skinned-people-need-to-eat-their

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Dr Linda's avatar

I was outside working about 4 hours yesterday. I feel physically and emotionally terrific today.

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Janet's avatar

Apparently the NYT is recommending you get NO SUN AT ALL. To stay indoors and wear a full face mask and body covering outfit if you MUST go out. They were serious. My daughter asked me why I didn’t buy a Sunday Times when visiting her on LI. I just told her I was over that rag. This stoopid plea was reported on Mercola this morning.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Why The New York Times Advises Complete Avoidance of Sunshine

The New York Times is advocating completely avoiding the sun this summer, complete with full face masks and indoor lunch breaks. This dangerous advice could increase your risk of chronic disease.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2023/07/03/new-york-times-avoidance-of-sunshine.aspx?cid_source=dnlsubstack&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art2HL&cid=20230703_SU

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Ugg …

ā€œOur country was founded by geniuses but it’s being run by idiots.ā€

John F Kennedy

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OnTheJump's avatar

An attempt at a paradoxical piece?

And maybe hoping some (or many) will suffer the consequences of low Vit. D levels? It's just too absurd, to print such drivel.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I think it is clear that the entire establishment is controlled by a single source. Everything that is done, no matter how trivial, has one single purpose: to destroy completely the American civil and religious ideal/culture and violently subjugate the American people to a satanic communist elite. (In the process, they will kill off the majority of the population.)

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Could be Phil. The devil is out to destroy all God's creation.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Doing the same thing expecting a different result. Insane, and now crazy as well due to the lack of oxygen that those poor souls have had these past 3 years, behind nano masks.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Burkah for all!

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Janet's avatar

I have some old linen curtains upstairs. Would those work? I bet Jones beach is still full of people today on the shore.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Put me into Mexico or on the equator, and I'm down. In Ontario, not so much.

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Peter GL's avatar

all the junk that's fit to print!

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RunningLogic's avatar

šŸ˜†šŸ¤£ Good thing I don’t listen to those arrogant morons 😁

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Ellie's avatar

Yep. Saw that headline. More double speak.

Lots of us took refuge in the outdoors these last 3 years and they are trying to take that away as well. Some countries only allowed people to go with min 5 k or so of their homes during lockdowns. Thank God the authorities did not try that in US.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Thanks for sharing this Janet. Totally crazy

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LMWC's avatar

Agree, but the ā€œwildfiresā€ in Canada are forcing many south of their border inside. šŸ™

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

True. That's why I try to get outside at least in the early AM/sunrise when infrared -A (IR-A) is highest - helps us build our skin so that it can absorb the medicine chest of UV. I'm guessing you're getting the tailwind of those fires down South?

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Dr Linda's avatar

I was just reading a paper regarding that. They also stated that late afternoon/early evening offers the same.

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Janet's avatar

There is an app called dminder that tracks the sun where you are and how much you would get when. In the winter here in Northern Illinois it tells me I can get some in 3 months! Ha.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Eat potato bone broth soup. And home made bread. +15# every winter. šŸ˜ I need a job...in ILLINOIS??

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Janet's avatar

I hear ya.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Yes the only thing is that by that time you've missed the UV window, so not getting max benefit /absorption from the UV spectrum.

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Shelle's avatar

Where can I learn more about this? Thanks in advance!

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Hi Shelle, as it turns out, I wrote an article about this that was released today 😊

https://romanshapoval.substack.com/p/pale-skinned-people-need-to-eat-their

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Brenda Bergsma's avatar

Wow! Super informative! Makes so much sense!

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Thank you so much Brenda for your feedback and support. Glad you got some value out of the article!

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CaplT's avatar

Which includes less screen time. šŸ‘

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Amen to that- especially after sunset

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well said!

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Caroline's avatar

I will pass on reading tweets if it means I have to sign up for an account.

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Kenaz Filan's avatar

I reluctantly reactivated my Twitter account so I can view the site, but have made a vow to myself to refrain from posting there. Anything I post will get a few likes from people who agree with me and some snarky comments from people who disagree, but I'm not going to change anybody's mind with 240 characters. On Substack I feel like the things I post encourage actual discussion and debate. Twitter is just a dopamine machine for people seeking validation.

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CaplT's avatar

Sometimes inflections can be missed by not watching, but Jeff does a good job summarizing.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

My wife writes blog articles for an organization and has ChatGPT (4.0) help review the content before she posts. The AI is really good about suggesting improvements and sometimes she totally rewrites them based on the feedback.

Eventually you could see AI bots having their own blogs and followings. Like if Jeff had an assistant AI bot that could harvest articles and content of the day and suggest things for tomorrow's post. Maybe it could even write the whole post in some cases.

And we, the readers could have AI agents that login and engage on our behalf, using our past posts and other sources to have some unique personality and perspectives.

That would be pretty crazy for a substack to be written all by AI and all the commenters are AI.

I expect by the end of the year someone will something like that working.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

Your wife may want to read the ChatGPT T&C's very closely before sharing any intellectual property content with the algorithm. Nothing in life is truly free. I vaguely recall an issue with Google Translate and Google claiming 'ownership' of content.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

In her case, she's fine with the data becoming public domain, but it's certainly a good idea to make sure these tools don't own your content simply by using them.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Same with Deep L. They say the premium service doesn’t use the information you post but the free one definitely can. And I don’t think I’d trust their word on the premium version either.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

It's critical for end-users to read and understand the privacy notice and the terms and conditions to understand how their data is being processed, stored, shared, and potentially sold. People would be shocked at how companies openly monetize their personal data.

Most people don't read them which is reasonable because it's shameless legalese, but they should. Companies like Meta get in trouble, particularly in the EU due to the GDPR, because they do not practice what they promise.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I always do, or at least skim them because there are parts that are pretty boilerplate and parts that don’t concern me (residents of California and stuff like that). But I admit I don’t always understand it all very well.

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HUMDEEDEE's avatar

I wonder if you copied and pasted the TOC into ChatGPT and asked it to summarize how the data is being processed, stored, shared and sold, if it would accurately do so. I've tried to read those damned things, and instantly fall asleep - best sleeping aid there is!

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RebeccaGrrrl's avatar

And remember that Chat can also lie, or provide 'improvised' material. I forget how it works, but you have to tell it in the prompt how to do it and avoid generating false information.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Interesting idea! I’d like to see what it would come up with.

Yeah maybe we should all keep a copy on our bedside tables to read in case of insomnia šŸ˜†šŸ˜¬

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

You are correct that G Translate T&C said anything you put in is theirs to do with as they choose. Our business could not use it because of that.

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ICI Grief (The Rebel's Hike)'s avatar

I heard there are pastors using ChatGPT to write their sermons. Bad idea.

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Faith&FitnessMama's avatar

The Babylon Bee did a whole segment on their podcast giving AI Chat Bot prompts to write sermons. It was pretty hilarious....none of them were good sermons. šŸ˜‚

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RunningLogic's avatar

Like when someone here (BFM? I can’t recall) asked about Jeff and it made up all this stuff about him being a coffee expert and connaisseur (which may actually be true, I don’t know, he’s certainly a man of many talents 😁) and a whole bunch of other nonsense that all of who have been following Jeff for a long time immediately would know is bunk.

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AJF's avatar

Hmmmmm what does this mean for HS teachers and college professors? Is there a way to identify something written by AI?

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🌱NardšŸ™'s avatar

There are sites that can check and let you know how likely it is that student content is AI generated. How reliable they are is hard to tell. I tested a few, and they detected suspect content pretty accurately. However, once I edited the content and used my own ā€œvoice,ā€ the generators did not detect AI. It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out in the classroom. As the Head of School in a Charter School, I’m working w my English dept. to try and find a solution. Our kids may have to start writing all of their papers in class. The flipped classroom model may indeed make a comeback.

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Mary Lynn Mortimer's avatar

My son had a class at UF this past spring where the professor made it pen and paper in class just for this reason. My son actually liked it because there was no homework outside of class.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That’s great!

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🌱NardšŸ™'s avatar

When I was teaching, my kids wrote all of their papers in class. Pen and paper. Computers only for final drafts. Saves a lot of headaches and makes the kids THINK!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup writing by hand the old fashioned way might be the new thing 😁 I actually think that would be an improvement, for many reasons.

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nt's avatar

Very little modification is needed, and it is passing the plagiarism checker at our school.

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🌱NardšŸ™'s avatar

There are new ones developed specially for AI. It’s easy to pass a plagiarism check as not much is plagiarized...just written by ā€œsomeoneā€ else šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø.

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Katrina the Hurricane's avatar

Wow, as a former teacher, I like not only the ā€œin-classā€ exercise, but also the pen and paper aspect since most kids have lost the skill and the art of handwriting. As a con, though, it sure does limit the editing aspect to yield a great paper.

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Susan In Kansas's avatar

Teachers can still hand kids a pen and paper. Writing can be done in the presence of the teacher.

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AJ#2's avatar

Oral exams like in the olden days.

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Oma's avatar

I asked my second year college student grandson if AI was used by anyone he knew. He said casually, ā€œI’d say 6 out of 10 at school use it. Some to do their work and some use it to ā€˜check’ their work.ā€ I was amazed at that number! My brother (a retired military ā€œoriginalā€ computer language programmer) and I played around with AI and amazed, frightened and angered at what it can do! As far as how can you tell if your students are using AI, on the first day of class, and every day for a week, pull out pencils and papers that YOU have and tell them to write about what will give you a ā€˜picture’ of their abilities through vocabulary, sentence structure, thoughts and sometimes even attitudes and personality. That’s what my brother and I came to the conclusion of. Just a thought for you, AJ.

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SeeingTruth's avatar

If teachers/professors write customized questions, assignments, critical thinking exercises, etc it can help negate the issue. It has worked for my spouse. And, the teachers who take the time to know their students can see through the bs.

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AJF's avatar

Asking as a retired teacher 😳

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Oma's avatar

Maybe become a teacher’s assistant and help in an area that this would be a issue. We need to not leave this area of need, but become part of the solution. I know...easier said than done. I worked 27 years in elementary through high school (yes, I was following my 3 children, guilty as charged by them) and I just could not make those last 3 years. And that was the late 70’s through July 31, 1999! My daughter is in her 27th year of ESE elementary through high school and her daughter will begin her career teaching 3rd grade this fall. Not where I wanted her to go but I’m going to help where I can while my daughter recoups from 30 years of Hearing Impaired teaching/supervisor while having an adopted deaf child (political incorrectness changed again- not deaf,hearing impaired. Not hearing impaired, deaf)! Politics were in education in the 70’s. I just didn’t know how deeply it was planted.

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nt's avatar

Already happening at the HS level …and no detection.

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AJF's avatar

🫤

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

BFM, how do you know it's not happening now?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Wouldn't that be interesting.

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Janet's avatar

Ugh. I’m just about ready to become a hermit.

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RunningLogic's avatar

We need our own C&C country!

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none none's avatar

I really wish there was some way to create C&C groups, maybe by state, and meet once a month for discussion. Wouldn't that be fun!?

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RunningLogic's avatar

It would be great!

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Roger Beal's avatar

Oh, how awesomely cool. Soon we can get rid of pesky human creatives altogether!

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GreaterIsrahell's avatar

"And we, the readers could have AI agents that login and engage on our behalf, using our past posts and other sources to have some unique personality and perspectives."

Yeah, Jeff could be a dumbed down TV watching couch potato, and so could all of us. Wouldn't that be wonderful? LOL

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RJ Rambler's avatar

WALL-E

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Roger Beal's avatar

And who would be the customer for such an arrangement? The Big Robot On Mars?

I cannot imagine what sort of actual thinking human would spend ten nanoseconds to learn what one AI bot says to another AI bot.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Most substack (including C&C) readers do not leave comments.

So if an AI bot created Tuesday's post, and then a bot that had used my personality (from harvesting my previous posts, and access to other personal sources) would create a comment that would sound roughly like what I would say. And similarly a bot could do the same for you. A thread would emerge like the thread of today, with the bots for each of us posting comments that could be pretty interesting and relevant.

So the customer would be the same customer that reads these substacks, but doesn't post; they would just continue to read the content, assuming it's interesting, if it's AI generated or not.

Pretty wild, huh!

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Roger Beal's avatar

Wild ... and ultimately pointless. Why spend time reading the thoughts of a "real" bot followed by my comments as simulated by a "fake" bot?

Perusing cereal boxes over breakfast is a better use of time, IMO. (:>)

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Simply refer to Jeff's post today and how Ms. Marsh is fake with an AI generated photo. And hundreds of thousands of followers and retweeters.

Fake content, with millions of views!

I mean, any video game has Non Playable Characters (bots) that engage hours of people's time daily. They pay big money for fully simulated content.

So why wouldn't people also read blogs with comments that are all AI generated, assuming it was interesting?

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Fla Mom's avatar

And how would they know it's all AI-generated to begin with? They wouldn't.

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RunningLogic's avatar

How do we know all of her ā€œfollowersā€ (or even a majority) aren’t also bots?

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none none's avatar

The bottom line is, we can assume that very soon (now) we won't be able to tell the difference between a bot and a real person. At least online.

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Tamsin's avatar

I thought you were... based. 🤨 It's right there in the name.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I'm just exploring the topic of AI that Jeff brought up today.

Obviously we'll be seeing much more AI generated material, so we're just thinking aloud.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Actually, good point because it's JUST LIKE THAT!

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daverkb's avatar

It would be a Transhumanist Desert operating as a Mirage Oasis. Death Incarnate.

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Shelle's avatar

Jeff has a unique writing voice and it would be so sad to have that replaced with AI! Or to have AI mimicking it in some "off" way

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RunningLogic's avatar

It sounds like a pretentious middle school or high school student.

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Coffee & Crap Podcast's avatar

Holy crap. I need more coffee for this story. I too was fooled by ā€œErica Marshā€. This AI is scary AF and has confirmed my theory tall the tweets asking people to raise their hands if they are unvaxxed and praising unvaxxed for staying strong might just be a way for the govt to know who the unvaxxed are. Will they be coming after the ā€œpure bloodsā€ one day? I know, I know, I watch too much Handmaids Tale but Jeez - we are living a in a sci fi nightmare. God help us.

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The Phoenix's avatar

Elon - double your security team and get a food tester

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

May God bless and keep Elon. He’s not perfect, but he’s better than the others. I think.

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

So the ai generated a bottle-blond bot?

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How to sting a twitter psyop:

Everybody post pix & vids of themselves in einstein wigs & marx bro noses/glasses/'staches. When bots start showing up with same we'll know the ai thinks that's the new normal look!

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Roger Beal's avatar

Be sure to wear a rainbow shirt, too. Don't want to offfffend anyone, y'know.

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Janet's avatar

I like that. If I had an account. Not yet.

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Kathy Boston's avatar

Robert De Niro's grandson, actor Leandro De Niro Rodriguez, has died ... TMZ has confirmed.

The 19-year-old was found dead sitting in a chair, inside a New York City apartment Sunday afternoon, law enforcement tells TMZ. We're told there were no obvious signs that led to his death. He was found by a friend who hadn't heard from him in a few days and was checking in on him.

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Bo Havlik's avatar

SADS: Was he vaxxed?

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Just Comment's avatar

Had tried Cleansing his blood did not work either.

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Jacquie's avatar

Thank you for the deep dive into the social media psyop, Jeff! Very informative. Sadly, I’m not surprised this is happening. It was only a matter of time. With a phone in every hand almost, we are a goldmine for them to manipulate.

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

Honestly feel like any moment we’ll hear, ā€œwe were just doing it for your own goodā€ Frankly, I feel it was being done for nefarious EVIL purposes.

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Valerie's avatar

Thank you for the data scraping explanation. AI does indeed make it a brave new world.

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dan bee's avatar

ā€œI suspect what’s really going on is much bigger: that the intelligence agencies are using real-time Twitter data to — legally — run all their online psyop operations.ā€

Agreed. If you can’t control the narrative, drown out the narrative with bots so real people like us go along with the crowd. Remember the waiting room exercise where everyone raised their hand or stood up? Covid, Ukraine, politics, it’s all smoke and mirrors and we are the lab rats.

Who owns Substack, again? I’m sure my comment is scrapped, complied and to be later used....

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Shy Boy's avatar

This is all very old news. Elon's running the same kind of operation, just for a different faction than the previous owners. None of them are good guys.

https://cjhopkins.substack.com/p/how-to-memory-hole-a-psyop

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Celayne Jones's avatar

Try Rumble instead of YouTube. Rumble doesn’t censor.

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GreaterIsrahell's avatar

You beat me to it, Celayne.

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Celayne Jones's avatar

Great minds...

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Melissa's avatar

I was heading to the comment section to say the same thing

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