An effective way to persuade Covidians; a SADS 33-year-old Fox reporter; and a teeny-tiny but terrifically-important study to lift your post-holiday spirits even higher.
Great points on baby steps for persuasion. Those whose worldview are beginning to crumble can't be pushed off the edge or they will be paralyzed.
What needs to be considered is that this isn't something (ie taking a Red Pill) that people will come to easily.
I'm sure many of us have already been through this (my journey began in 2009 after, as a career finance professional with an MBA, I was completely wiped out).
It is a long process that can take months or years (similar to being deprogrammed from a cult), and it is not a straight line. Lots of ups, downs, and gnashing of teeth.
"I found yet another goofy Covidian (a healthcare professional) ..." I've stopped calling them 'health care' professionals. They are primarily in the medicine business. Until each practitioner proves themselves to be interested in health, they are snake oil salesmen to me.
May I ask why no one has any idea what is being sprayed in Chem trails. I am on the gulf coast of Fl. The sky is covered in Chem trails. Just finished a cruise to Italy, France, Portugal and Spain. Chem trails in all of these countries. I am wondering why DeSantis and Dr. Ladapo are not discussing this concern. Thousands of people extremely unwell. Both vaxxed and unvaxxed. I know, I am one of them. Unvaxxed going into week five of nasal and lung congestion.
Interesting discussion about the diabetes patient! Here in the SF Bay Area it also seems as though some doctors are becoming aware that vaccine injuries are real. My electrician's husband, a young fit man in his 30s, a PhD scientist, road biker, and vaccine enthusiast, took the flu shot and the most recent covid booster at the same time. A few days after he woke up unable to see or move his limbs - UNABLE TO SEE OR MOVE HIS LIMBS! They rushed to the ER at Kaiser Permanente in Oakland where after three days UNABLE TO SEE OR MOVE HIS LIMBS they diagnosed him with Miller Fisher Syndrome a "rare" autoimmune disease, and told them it was a vaccine injury. Pay attention here, a physician team in Oakland CA at mega corporate vertically integrated Kaiser Permanente acknowledged this was a vaccine injury. In the world I want to live in, this is a newsworthy item. As far as I know, aside from myself, no one else is bothering to get this out into the world. My electrician's husband is predicted to recover from the inability to SEE OR MOVE HIS LIMBS, but that remains to be seen.
The truly unfortunate part is that I am a pretty busy builder and I was speaking to this electrician at least weekly since way before the pandemic began. I shared with him all of our concerns. I told him about the death of our friend from a Pfizer hot lot #en6201. I pleaded with him to not take boosters. I did all but chain him to a port-o-potty to keep him from taking the Monkey Pox shot... nothing worked and here we are today. He remains a friend, but it was definitely hard on him to have to share with me his husband's condition after it happened. Not much to do but pray for a recovery and that they have learned their lesson!
Another thing worth noting, I was at a party a month or so ago. One of the guests I met had done an analysis for Sutter Health, another large, vertically integrated health care provider out here. He indicated that the analysis he performed indicated a tremendous amount of vaccine injury and death in their patient population. Upon sharing it with the executives that contracted his firm to do this work, the report was buried and never has been shared.
I imagine incidents like these are happening at every health care provider and insurer in the world right now. It is only a matter of time now before the dam breaks.
A friend of mine late 50’s just died suddenly. She had RA, which my mother had who lived to 91. Jane, my friend, told her son she wasn’t feeling well, had had a cough and general sickness we all get this time of year. He came home from work and found her gone...there is no reason for this! It truly angers me, we all know the vaxx is contributory, I’m tired of being gaslit at every turn!
Since the rollout of these vaccines I have been squawking to anyone who will listen--not many did--that I thought it was idiotic to code the mRNA for the TOXIC part of the virus. I am a veterinarian and we vaccinate A LOT-probably too much. We know all about antigenic stimulation--we see puppers come back with swollen faces after vaccines, occasionally we see full blown anaphylaxis and we understand that this is an over reaction by the immune system. One of the tenants of veterinary vaccination has always been to find a HARMLESS part of a bacteria or virus to stimulate the immune system with. When I heard that they were instructing cells to PRODUCE SPIKE, which everyone agrees is the pathogenic portion of the COVID virus, I thought that was reckless. Why not code for a surface protein that is harmless? And then, to make the vaccine SPIKE such that it can't be degraded like natural SPIKE. It's either absolute stupidity or it was on purpose. I shudder to think we are living out a sci fi novel, but every day it seems more likely that we are.
One of the things I love about Jeff Childers is that he's open-minded, the first section today and much of yesterdays post show that.
By open-minded I don't mean a willingness to entertain absurd ideas (e.g. men can change into women by putting on a dress), but an understanding that we aren't always right. How many of us reflexively supported the Iraq War since our guy was pushing it? In hindsight it was a disaster in just about every regard and the left was absolutely right in opposing it. They were right for all the wrong reasons, but the fact remains that they were right. We could use some humility.
The Covidians are seeing the same data we are seeing, rejecting the establishment's denial of the data, but drawing the wrong conclusion (the ultimate cause being covid rather than the vax). We have more in common with them that we like to admit. We also share their hysterical mindset in many regards, they think covid will end humanity, we think the vax will. In reality, neither will end humanity. Our waiting for the vaxxed to drop dead is not much different from their waiting for covid to kill everyone.
I know when I post anything critical of Israel there's a group of commenters claiming I've been brainwashed and what I'm saying is evil. Are they Israel shills? No, they are just people who made up their minds about something decades ago and have never really seriously considered any counter-evidence. In other words closed-minded. There's just as much on our side as the other side IMO. We tend to be better behaved in our objections than the left, but aren't much different in our pig-headedness.
Thanks for the series of thought-provoking posts Jeff Childers. You are giving us good stuff to chew on, and challenging our preconceived notions. Many self-appointed "influencers" just feed their readers slop to affirms their biases. Thanks for not doing that. Best wishes in the New Year.
Interesting X post yesterday from Alex Berenson about how the NFL cuts the camera much faster now during field collapses after the Damar Hamlin incident:
I have to agree with the "meet the people still under the narrative halfway" approach. If you can give small agreement to something they said and then drop a "have you considered this" small truth as well, you plant a seed. Enough seeds and something might come to fruition. We all know that many of these people demonized others for not masking, not getting an experimental shot, speaking out against lockdowns, etc. But it's getting harder and harder to ignore the fact that _something_ isn't right. They may think "long covid" or "inert covid" or some such - but it's not right no matter the source and they can see it.
Now if we could just get the hard-core mask pushers to see through those lies.... I still hear "well, they weren't wearing a mask, so they got sick" way too often. Even some people at church regularly don a mask "to protect others" (or maybe to "protect" themselves?). If you're sick or think you are - stay home. I'm still saddened by the many seniors who lived through horrible cold/flu seasons but still think masking somehow now does anything. If it did, they'd have been masking for decades. :(
I got involved in comments on an article on microsoft news about Ivermectin. It is funny how people against it saying on people for it are MAGA and things of that nature and those kind of attacks. Dosing required not safe for humans, etc. I put in my two cents worth about a gold standard study that has been done commenting to some of those attackers. Microsoft won't let you give the links. When they attacked me with the MAGA stuff, I responded with it was a Gates funded company that did the gold standard study on oral ivermectin proving it was safe and effective for treating Covid. I gave the company name and told them search it and look in their portfolio and you will find the study. Their study is on the government website with everything except study results that it was 97% effective. The fact they did it and submitted it is there though. Even Bill Gates knows it is effective. The motive for the study is to create an intravenous version which I am not sure I would trust and would probably be expensive. The point is a Gates funded study isn't a MAGA thing. A Gates funded company isn't a MAGA thing. That took the breath away from their attacks in my opinion. Dr. Pierre Kory even sited this study when saying it is effective. Gates funds WHO, NIH and many 3 letter organizations, but they all said it was an ineffective drug for Covid even though he funded a company that shows it was. The webs they all weave.
While they have us distracted on the fallout from the injections - our bee populations are being exterminated by EMF radiation. No lawsuits will be available when we're all starving. Go hardwired or go home without honey.
Thank you however Jeff for all your hard work. Each of us needs to focus on one thing, and do what we can do.
So pursue them with Your tempest
And dismay them with Your storm.
Fill their faces with disgrace,
That they may seek Your name, O Yahweh.
Let them be ashamed and dismayed forever,
And let them be humiliated and perish,
That they may know that You alone—Your name is Yahweh—
Are the Most High over all the earth.
— Psalm 83:15-18
Great points on baby steps for persuasion. Those whose worldview are beginning to crumble can't be pushed off the edge or they will be paralyzed.
What needs to be considered is that this isn't something (ie taking a Red Pill) that people will come to easily.
I'm sure many of us have already been through this (my journey began in 2009 after, as a career finance professional with an MBA, I was completely wiped out).
It is a long process that can take months or years (similar to being deprogrammed from a cult), and it is not a straight line. Lots of ups, downs, and gnashing of teeth.
"I found yet another goofy Covidian (a healthcare professional) ..." I've stopped calling them 'health care' professionals. They are primarily in the medicine business. Until each practitioner proves themselves to be interested in health, they are snake oil salesmen to me.
I am not interested in pussy-footing around the elephant in the room in regard to the covid death shots.
Not gonna argue. Not gonna try to see their point. Not gonna try for them to see mine.
If a person wants to take them, go right ahead.
But...leave me the F alone.
I am cranky, and pissed, and this crap has got to stop.
May I ask why no one has any idea what is being sprayed in Chem trails. I am on the gulf coast of Fl. The sky is covered in Chem trails. Just finished a cruise to Italy, France, Portugal and Spain. Chem trails in all of these countries. I am wondering why DeSantis and Dr. Ladapo are not discussing this concern. Thousands of people extremely unwell. Both vaxxed and unvaxxed. I know, I am one of them. Unvaxxed going into week five of nasal and lung congestion.
Interesting discussion about the diabetes patient! Here in the SF Bay Area it also seems as though some doctors are becoming aware that vaccine injuries are real. My electrician's husband, a young fit man in his 30s, a PhD scientist, road biker, and vaccine enthusiast, took the flu shot and the most recent covid booster at the same time. A few days after he woke up unable to see or move his limbs - UNABLE TO SEE OR MOVE HIS LIMBS! They rushed to the ER at Kaiser Permanente in Oakland where after three days UNABLE TO SEE OR MOVE HIS LIMBS they diagnosed him with Miller Fisher Syndrome a "rare" autoimmune disease, and told them it was a vaccine injury. Pay attention here, a physician team in Oakland CA at mega corporate vertically integrated Kaiser Permanente acknowledged this was a vaccine injury. In the world I want to live in, this is a newsworthy item. As far as I know, aside from myself, no one else is bothering to get this out into the world. My electrician's husband is predicted to recover from the inability to SEE OR MOVE HIS LIMBS, but that remains to be seen.
The truly unfortunate part is that I am a pretty busy builder and I was speaking to this electrician at least weekly since way before the pandemic began. I shared with him all of our concerns. I told him about the death of our friend from a Pfizer hot lot #en6201. I pleaded with him to not take boosters. I did all but chain him to a port-o-potty to keep him from taking the Monkey Pox shot... nothing worked and here we are today. He remains a friend, but it was definitely hard on him to have to share with me his husband's condition after it happened. Not much to do but pray for a recovery and that they have learned their lesson!
Another thing worth noting, I was at a party a month or so ago. One of the guests I met had done an analysis for Sutter Health, another large, vertically integrated health care provider out here. He indicated that the analysis he performed indicated a tremendous amount of vaccine injury and death in their patient population. Upon sharing it with the executives that contracted his firm to do this work, the report was buried and never has been shared.
I imagine incidents like these are happening at every health care provider and insurer in the world right now. It is only a matter of time now before the dam breaks.
A friend of mine late 50’s just died suddenly. She had RA, which my mother had who lived to 91. Jane, my friend, told her son she wasn’t feeling well, had had a cough and general sickness we all get this time of year. He came home from work and found her gone...there is no reason for this! It truly angers me, we all know the vaxx is contributory, I’m tired of being gaslit at every turn!
Since the rollout of these vaccines I have been squawking to anyone who will listen--not many did--that I thought it was idiotic to code the mRNA for the TOXIC part of the virus. I am a veterinarian and we vaccinate A LOT-probably too much. We know all about antigenic stimulation--we see puppers come back with swollen faces after vaccines, occasionally we see full blown anaphylaxis and we understand that this is an over reaction by the immune system. One of the tenants of veterinary vaccination has always been to find a HARMLESS part of a bacteria or virus to stimulate the immune system with. When I heard that they were instructing cells to PRODUCE SPIKE, which everyone agrees is the pathogenic portion of the COVID virus, I thought that was reckless. Why not code for a surface protein that is harmless? And then, to make the vaccine SPIKE such that it can't be degraded like natural SPIKE. It's either absolute stupidity or it was on purpose. I shudder to think we are living out a sci fi novel, but every day it seems more likely that we are.
One of the things I love about Jeff Childers is that he's open-minded, the first section today and much of yesterdays post show that.
By open-minded I don't mean a willingness to entertain absurd ideas (e.g. men can change into women by putting on a dress), but an understanding that we aren't always right. How many of us reflexively supported the Iraq War since our guy was pushing it? In hindsight it was a disaster in just about every regard and the left was absolutely right in opposing it. They were right for all the wrong reasons, but the fact remains that they were right. We could use some humility.
The Covidians are seeing the same data we are seeing, rejecting the establishment's denial of the data, but drawing the wrong conclusion (the ultimate cause being covid rather than the vax). We have more in common with them that we like to admit. We also share their hysterical mindset in many regards, they think covid will end humanity, we think the vax will. In reality, neither will end humanity. Our waiting for the vaxxed to drop dead is not much different from their waiting for covid to kill everyone.
I know when I post anything critical of Israel there's a group of commenters claiming I've been brainwashed and what I'm saying is evil. Are they Israel shills? No, they are just people who made up their minds about something decades ago and have never really seriously considered any counter-evidence. In other words closed-minded. There's just as much on our side as the other side IMO. We tend to be better behaved in our objections than the left, but aren't much different in our pig-headedness.
Thanks for the series of thought-provoking posts Jeff Childers. You are giving us good stuff to chew on, and challenging our preconceived notions. Many self-appointed "influencers" just feed their readers slop to affirms their biases. Thanks for not doing that. Best wishes in the New Year.
Forgive me for not meeting those that are part of the crusade to murder humanity half way.
Most covidians are indoctrinated to never see the other side. They trust their masters until their last breath.
Interesting X post yesterday from Alex Berenson about how the NFL cuts the camera much faster now during field collapses after the Damar Hamlin incident:
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1739383977327387000
I have to agree with the "meet the people still under the narrative halfway" approach. If you can give small agreement to something they said and then drop a "have you considered this" small truth as well, you plant a seed. Enough seeds and something might come to fruition. We all know that many of these people demonized others for not masking, not getting an experimental shot, speaking out against lockdowns, etc. But it's getting harder and harder to ignore the fact that _something_ isn't right. They may think "long covid" or "inert covid" or some such - but it's not right no matter the source and they can see it.
Now if we could just get the hard-core mask pushers to see through those lies.... I still hear "well, they weren't wearing a mask, so they got sick" way too often. Even some people at church regularly don a mask "to protect others" (or maybe to "protect" themselves?). If you're sick or think you are - stay home. I'm still saddened by the many seniors who lived through horrible cold/flu seasons but still think masking somehow now does anything. If it did, they'd have been masking for decades. :(
There are people who are worth being patient with, and there are people who have no desire to here anything. Wisdom is needed.
I got involved in comments on an article on microsoft news about Ivermectin. It is funny how people against it saying on people for it are MAGA and things of that nature and those kind of attacks. Dosing required not safe for humans, etc. I put in my two cents worth about a gold standard study that has been done commenting to some of those attackers. Microsoft won't let you give the links. When they attacked me with the MAGA stuff, I responded with it was a Gates funded company that did the gold standard study on oral ivermectin proving it was safe and effective for treating Covid. I gave the company name and told them search it and look in their portfolio and you will find the study. Their study is on the government website with everything except study results that it was 97% effective. The fact they did it and submitted it is there though. Even Bill Gates knows it is effective. The motive for the study is to create an intravenous version which I am not sure I would trust and would probably be expensive. The point is a Gates funded study isn't a MAGA thing. A Gates funded company isn't a MAGA thing. That took the breath away from their attacks in my opinion. Dr. Pierre Kory even sited this study when saying it is effective. Gates funds WHO, NIH and many 3 letter organizations, but they all said it was an ineffective drug for Covid even though he funded a company that shows it was. The webs they all weave.
Yes sugar Gets you more than vinegar. But it’s been three plus years of non stop lies from the medical industrial complex.
While they have us distracted on the fallout from the injections - our bee populations are being exterminated by EMF radiation. No lawsuits will be available when we're all starving. Go hardwired or go home without honey.
Thank you however Jeff for all your hard work. Each of us needs to focus on one thing, and do what we can do.