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Willing, I really don't want to fight about this with you. I know where you stand and I will say, once more, that I recognize both strengths and weaknesses of human beings - MYSELF INCLUDED. I am not asking for an "anti-vaccine" rant from President Trump. I am asking for some reflection, humility and insight. Now maybe that is asking too much but your comments (and I can only go by your comments since I don't know you personally) indicate that you have made Trump into a political idol (and again, I know how human it is do that as our hearts are idol-making machines). Please receive this comment in the spirit in which it is offered - a person who has her own concerns which might not line up precisely with yours.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I don’t have idols. I do recognize giants among men. And I think you are demonstrating a severe lack of understanding of the state this nation is in. I find your comments about President Trump to be highly disrespectful, particularly considering the hell he is currently walking through. Could you take an entire day of that pressure?

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NAB's avatar

If you find my desire for some insight and self-reflection from the man who has been, and could potentially become again, the most powerful person in the world to be disrespectful, then you and I are using different dictionaries.

I know FULL WELL the state of our country. I know because I interact in this world every day. I have five children - one a teenager still at home and the others just barely launched as adults - and I've seen first hand the damage done by terrible political decisions. President Trump gave the go-ahead for a shut down that wreaked havoc on kids - academically, socially and mentally. And yes, when you have a kid who says things like "I just don't want to be here anymore" because his life was turned upside down during Covid, I do expect the person who wants my vote to express some regret or to say "I will NEVER let that happen again. I made decisions at the time that I thought would benefit us, but I now know, those decisions cost us dearly. If I get the privilege of leading this country again, I will do everything in my power to dismantle the structures that dictated the terms for over two years of how people conducted their lives." This isn't that hard.

Yes, Trump is suffering. Yes, his first term was basically a slow-moving coup. I get it. I know all the lies, I know all the pressure brought to bear on him. I understand. But that doesn't mean he gets a free pass on everything. But, again, you and I disagree so I will leave it here and I will not engage further on this topic with you.

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MayBella82's avatar

I agree with you about Giants among men. Thank you God that most people will never understand or ever go through what they do. I thank God for making men like that so I can sleep in a warm bed at night, have a roof over my head, food on my table and have time in the morning to read Jeff’s posts and the comments. Someone I love is in harms way and has been for the last two years because this administration. He is a Giant. Personally, I wish people would focus on the present and future of this country for our kids and grandkids.

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