But definitely we need to have more anti-gun laws in Manhattan right? I mean at least no one was choked out only to later die of fentanyl ingestion, at least no one was denied an abortion and left to die, at least the alleged gunperson will get a fair trial due to white skin unlike a poor Venezuelan of color. Helping Media to cognitively construct their fanciful stories is kinda fun
Lots of talk on X yesterday about this. Many are saying the gun wasn't jammed but rather required manual intervention due to the type of gun used and the added suppressor.
Yes! NYT is reporting that the words on the bullet casing were “deny” and “delay” steering us into believing it was a disgruntled consumer. Normally we wouldn’t get such facts so early and it sounds ridiculous- straight out of a Hollywood movie. NYT goes this way, then I go that way.
I assume you found that info on the gun from a website? Which one? Looking at how the gun works, the shooter wanted to leave those (engraved) shell casings behind. A suppressed revolver would have worked just as well and no evidence (shell casings) would be found.
So the fancy gun and left behind evidence means some narrative is being woven for us to follow and it wasn't an angry spouse/partner of someone who got screwed over by an insurance company. That's just my opinion, of course. I'm no detective; but I have read a lot of fiction in my life..... :P
I have no idea. As a wife of a 30 year LEO, a 10 yr Army vet, and a gun enthusiast, I've remained totally ignorant about guns. I just know the type of gun talked about on X yesterday was not a super common one.
Agree. It looked like he expected the gun to not eject normally, and was cycling the slide immediately after each shot as if he expected to do that. Most semi-auto jams leave the casing outside the chamber, in the receiving area, requiring the gun to be tilted to let it fall out, I didn't see that. It appeared there was not enough oomph in the ammo to even get the casing to clear the chamber, as in deliberately underpowered subsonic ammo, or a slide lock. Although there is plenty of factory subsonic ammo in 9mm and other calibers that should eject properly. So, it's not clear, beyond that manually working the slide seemed to be what he expected.
This. He knew he basically had a single shot. He’d fired that handgun with the amateur suppressor install before. He expected to have to rack the slide for each shot.
Sooooo lots of gun folks (and I agree) are saying gun did not jam.
Likely combination of ammo and suppressor resulting in the need to manually rack each shot. I’d look into this more.
I’ve never used a suppressor but that didn’t look like clearing a jam to me at all.
But definitely we need to have more anti-gun laws in Manhattan right? I mean at least no one was choked out only to later die of fentanyl ingestion, at least no one was denied an abortion and left to die, at least the alleged gunperson will get a fair trial due to white skin unlike a poor Venezuelan of color. Helping Media to cognitively construct their fanciful stories is kinda fun
Lots of talk on X yesterday about this. Many are saying the gun wasn't jammed but rather required manual intervention due to the type of gun used and the added suppressor.
Would these facts point to the shooter being a professional or not? Just curious.
Yes! NYT is reporting that the words on the bullet casing were “deny” and “delay” steering us into believing it was a disgruntled consumer. Normally we wouldn’t get such facts so early and it sounds ridiculous- straight out of a Hollywood movie. NYT goes this way, then I go that way.
https://bt-usa.com/products/station-six-9/
MMMM, I think the fact that it's a two-thousand dollar gun point to him being a professional shooter.
I assume you found that info on the gun from a website? Which one? Looking at how the gun works, the shooter wanted to leave those (engraved) shell casings behind. A suppressed revolver would have worked just as well and no evidence (shell casings) would be found.
So the fancy gun and left behind evidence means some narrative is being woven for us to follow and it wasn't an angry spouse/partner of someone who got screwed over by an insurance company. That's just my opinion, of course. I'm no detective; but I have read a lot of fiction in my life..... :P
Their website takes you to this website
https://www.capitolarmory.com/bt-station-six-9mm-suppressed-pistol-bt410111.html
Try $6,000.
Maybe he got it cheaper at a Black Friday sale?
https://www.capitolarmory.com/bt-station-six-9mm-suppressed-pistol-bt410111.html
This one a bargain!!!!!!
I have no idea. As a wife of a 30 year LEO, a 10 yr Army vet, and a gun enthusiast, I've remained totally ignorant about guns. I just know the type of gun talked about on X yesterday was not a super common one.
We'll probably never know who it was, so it's all moot.
It would point to the shooter being very comfortable and proficient with his weapon. Maybe a pro but not necessarily.
Subsonic ammo doesn’t always cycle the action on a semiauto pistol.
A slide lock will deliberately stop an auto pistol from racking another round, specifically to keep the noise down.
Agree. It looked like he expected the gun to not eject normally, and was cycling the slide immediately after each shot as if he expected to do that. Most semi-auto jams leave the casing outside the chamber, in the receiving area, requiring the gun to be tilted to let it fall out, I didn't see that. It appeared there was not enough oomph in the ammo to even get the casing to clear the chamber, as in deliberately underpowered subsonic ammo, or a slide lock. Although there is plenty of factory subsonic ammo in 9mm and other calibers that should eject properly. So, it's not clear, beyond that manually working the slide seemed to be what he expected.
This. He knew he basically had a single shot. He’d fired that handgun with the amateur suppressor install before. He expected to have to rack the slide for each shot.