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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

The most disturbing part is that lefties like Taylor Lorenz are celebrating the assassination. These same people are the most hardcore about masks, jabs, and big pharma products. Cognitive dissonance and gaslighting are the real pandemics.

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Jeff C's avatar

Of course no one should be celebrating an assassination, but is anyone surprised? We live in an age where CEO candidates require sociopathic tendencies to advance. Where "it's not personal just business" is routinely used as a justification to lie, manipulate, defraud, and generally screw people over. We just saw Pharma use the coercive power of state-sanctioned violence to force people to take an experimental injection. And now we know they got rich while the shot was poison and worthless.

There's an old saying what goes around comes around. This hit has a certain level of Old Testament Biblical justice to it. Of course it's wrong, but these people truly brought in on themselves. Last year I fought with my insurance company over a large claim for treatment they pre-approved. They eventually paid but it was obvious stalling with no regard whatsoever for the customer's concern. My buddy just got denied $18k in hospital bills after a stroke, they say he should have not been admitted but immediately discharged. How was he supposed to know that?

This is a reckoning and some of these sociopathic CEO's better take note.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Years ago following a horrific head on collision, my insurance refused to pay for the ambulance. They company was not approved. So I was supposed to call my insurance company to see if they were approved and then send them back and bleed to death following extraction from the vehicle while waiting for another ambulance!!! You cannot make up the idiocy these insurance companies put in place.

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Donna in MO's avatar

EVERYONE has a insurance story - albeit not as bad as yours perhaps. But insurance companies, especially health insurance companies, are easy to hate. But people use these stories as a reason to support gov healthcare. Like they think calling the customer service line at a gov health agency is going to be better!?! It's such a multi-headed beast I am not sure how we tame it but Obamacare was NOT the fix it was sold to be.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Right??? Why anyone would think government bureaucrats would do it any better is beyond me!!

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Robin Greer's avatar

I like the way the man on the street interviews start by asking "So how do you like going to the DMV?" Answer: "I hate it." Next question "And you want these people in charge of your healthcare?"

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RunningLogic's avatar

Here the DMV (or BMV as we call it) is not a good example because they are actually pretty efficient. I know that’s not true in most places though. But say, the IRS or other federal level administration would also be a great example.

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Starsky's avatar

And we all tried to warn people about Obamacare. Once in place, they would never be able to dismantle it and the goal was socialized “healthcare.”

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Jeff C's avatar

That's a false dichotomy. We can make the claim the current insurance system is corrupt and heartless without advocating government health care. It's not the only two options.

For far too long conservatives have been duped into defending the indefensible with this argument. Just because socialized medicine is rotten, it doesn't mean the current system is good. It's rotten too.

This is exactly what led to Trump taking over the GOP. Reagan's strong defense (a good thing) morphed into Republican endless wars that didn't benefit America but only defense contractors and Israel. His free markets (another good thing) turned into corrupt multinational crony capitalism. This didn't happen by accident but was done intentionally by the people that took over "conservativism" long after Reagan departed.

Yet conservatives are still repeating the same platitudes like it's the 1980's. It's not a choice between between the horrible system we have now and government medicine. There are other alternatives, yet we aren't even allowed to consider them. And the people repeating Reaganisms forty years later are being used by the people that caused this to prop up their corrupt system.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Oh I am aware that it is not an A or B choice - we need a C or a none of the above choice. But just sayin' when I get in arguments with libs over health care their go to is that healthcare should NOT be 'for profit' because it's a 'right'.

Oh I've read studies, papers and articles over the years that make sense around fixes - like pricing transparency, making health insurance like car insurance and un-mooring it from being an employee benefit where you are stuck with who your employer picks vs paying out the nose for your own policy. (where we are at right now, my hubby for now is calling himself retired at 61 after a layoff in September - we have a high deductible plan that is twice as expensive as his former employer that we have yet to use so no idea if it's any good or not)

I remember reading that surgical centers, which are more cost efficient and better outcomes than hospitals got froze (current could stay open but no new ones) during the Obamacare bill negotiations due to the lobbying of big Hospital chains who see them as eating into their margins that are used to help cover indigent care.

When my dad was in and out of the hospital in the years before he died in 2014, we had to come in thru the ER to see him if it was outside of visiting hours, and every time the waiting room was FULL. Given that many were sitting reading books, bringing knitting, etc. this was clearly NOT a true emergency. Just being able to divert uninsured people who use the ER as their PCP to an offsite clinic would save a fortune. My mom had a fall this summer and her AL place insisted she go to the ER as she had hit her head and was on blood thinners so needed to be checked out for internal bleeding. She was literally on a gurney in a hallway as the ER rooms were all full and the waiting room had no chairs left. Same - other than a couple of people who were clearly in pain and not feeling well, it looked like a regular doctor's office waiting room. Took 6 hours to get us in the door, waiting, get some tests run, and then waiting for results and was OK and cleared to return home. HAD she had internal bleeding, I am not sure it would have even been caught in time!

But this has never been a full-on research project for me - I just know that costs continue to spiral out of control, quality of care is declining while people are less healthy overall and it's headed for a crash.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Yes. We have to get people who don't have emergencies out of the ER and to a clinic. They should be routed to Public Health Clinics and those clinics should be funded with all the money that is going to Planned Parenthood to provide abortions not to provide healthcare. That would be a great start!

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yep, need to talk to the DOGE guys about this :-)

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Shelle's avatar

The only way the healthcare industry can be so corrupt is that the government regulations favor these big companies and keep out startups that would try to compete. Also, customers don't have access to the variety of insurance options many would like because government regulations don't even allow for simple basic insurance to be a thing.

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Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

THE ONLY GOOD HEALTH CARE INSURANCE IS "DO IT YOURSELF HEALTH CARE" I do it with the Super CHI 5000L that takes care of Covid and all it's variants in about 10 minutes, as well as every other virus. I don't need health insurance companies or Medical Doctors. ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT IF SHTF!

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Sir, where can I obtain this delivery system?

Is it similar to the one by Hulda Clark?

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Roger Beal's avatar

So-called concierge care is a better alternative. Check Atlas Healthcare for details on one example.

Concierge systems charge a monthly "membership fee" that covers all medical needs for an entire family, up to surgery and/or the ER. Included are basic generic prescriptions. That fee is often less than the basic monthly cost of BCBS or a similar, non-Medicare plan.

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James's avatar

Or its close cousin, Direct Primary Care. It also liberates MDs from being under the thumb of Big Insurance, and allows doctors to do what we went into medicine to do: take care of patients.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

All forms of slavery.

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Concerned mom's avatar

Obama CARE... What an OXYMORON!

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Robin Greer's avatar

We always say we would appreciate it if Obama would stop "caring" for us.

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Robin Greer's avatar

I definitely don't support government healthcare.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Insurance doesn’t work. Self-insurance is better.

No insurance should be mandated, except maybe for cars .

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, it's mandated for cars, and yet of the 3 wrecks I have been in (none where I was at fault), 2 of the 3 were uninsured.

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CStone's avatar

Insurance of all types is purely a scam.

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carily myers's avatar

A dear friend of mine (passed now) built his own house. Built as he could afford (5 yrs). Since he had no mortage, he didn't have to get insurance. He took the monthly payments he would have paid and invested it. He died a mult-millionaire, leaving children well taken care of.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Yes , it is. Insurance is only for the company to make a profit. Insurance companies have to get permission from the government to exist. The government exempt them from taxes and has complete control over the insurance companies.

☹️⛔️⚠️So WRONG! System!

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NinaG's avatar

I call it “legalized extortion, in case shit happens”.

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Mike's avatar

Insurance uses the same protocols as Las Vegas. The house is always in control.

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cltwilson1's avatar

My son was also in a head-on collision. He was airlifted to the trauma hospital. And guess what, the helicopter was out of network and a $30,000 bill ended up in our mailbox.

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STH's avatar

I have Airlift insurance for $70 a YEAR just for that reason. We live an hour and a half away from the nearest trauma center.

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Robin Greer's avatar

I remember that a tour on a helicopter in Hawaii only cost $500. And that included a van ride and a picnic so how did we get from $500 to $30,000. I guess that's medical math.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Yep...that's why they sell insurance for that too.

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KATHERINE JERNIGAN's avatar

Geez! This past summer, I blew my knee out just walking and had to call an ambulance. I didn’t think it would be covered as I was not admitted. I wound up paying $15! Go figure.

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Levans's avatar

That's evil

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Robin Greer's avatar

Yes, it is.

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Sam's avatar

United uses an algorithm that denies well over 90% of the claims. They are number one in claim denials.

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CraigN's avatar

Show me the data that supports this claim please

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CraigN's avatar

OK, I did not find anything in that article you linked. I would posit that if UHG was denying 90% of claims we would have had congressional hearings and numerous state's AG going after UHG. The only 90% figure that I have seen anywhere related to UHG is the AI algorithm that was being used for some claims. Unless there is some data available that supports a 90% claim denial, this is just speculation and hearsay. I'm not supporting UHG in any manner whatsoever but, I like to get my facts right when making statements about anything.

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TriTorch's avatar

On the bright side maybe he had a crisis of conscience and was about to blow the whistle on the whole kit and kaboodle.

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MOMinator's avatar

I was thinking that too 🤨

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CStone's avatar

Or the shooter was hired by the board……

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Robin Greer's avatar

Anything is possible.

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SteelJ's avatar

Possible, yes. Its also possible to buy one ticket and win the lottery.

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TriTorch's avatar

Yeah, about that. In this late stage of empire that is likely very very unlikely, and it’s far more likely that the lottery is now actually just a payout system for psyop actors and black ops participants. If you doubt this, watch this:

https://old.bitchute.com/video/dnMJxLi5Uj4J (6:33 mins)

They likely ain’t gonna let no plebs get that rich at this point. Prison planet.

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Credenda's avatar

Tri, that was good video. Imagine being able to “pay” crisis actors and co-conspirators through manipulating the lottery. How elegantly simple.

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TriTorch's avatar

Evil never sleeps and they are crafty as hell, Credenda. As biblical man said:

“While you're "finding yourself," they're finding [your]weakness.

While you're "living your best life," they're planning your worst nightmare.”

Here’s how unhinged and wicked these maniacs have gotten. They’ve been thriving like roaches in the blackness of top secret security clearances:

https://youtu.be/N02SK9yd60s

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Donna in MO's avatar

Sociopathic is a little too strong of a word, IMHO. Just as the fossils in Congress who have been there 30 years lose touch with the real world, this UHC guy had been there 20 years and came from public accounting. It is far from unusual for upper management in any big company to be insular and out of touch with the rank and file. People get serenaded by the siren songs of money and power and give up their humanity, but that does not mean they are sociopaths.

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ARC's avatar

I lean more toward Jeff’s interpretation. As a doc fighting for years for my patients’ coverage and for reimbursement, these companies, and the people who run them, believe they are above the law and believe they answer to no one.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes and it's the insurance red tape, gov regs and mountains of paperwork that is killing the independent practices. No time left for the patients.

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Jeff C's avatar

I think sociopathic is exactly the right word.

"A sociopath is a person who exhibits traits associated with antisocial personality disorder (ASPD), characterized by a lack of empathy, manipulative behavior, and a disregard for the rights of others. "

The rate of rejected claims has increased dramatically the last few years from all carriers, and as Jeff Childers noted UHC has some of the highest denial rates. This wasn't adjustors independently deciding to do this, but could only have resulted from orders from the top. Someone said (in effect), "we need to increase profits so use every trick you can to deny people's medical claims."

That is sociopathic.

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SteelJ's avatar

Well said, Jeff C. How can anybody doubt these people lack traits required to be fully human? They demonstrate their absence of empathy in everything they do.

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Donna in MO's avatar

OK. I get your point. But then that also leans towards this whole mindset that 'greedy corporations' are the root of all evil, which is the whole mantra of the Occupy movement. I am all for rooting out and ending CRONY capitalism, but I am still a fan of capitalism. I AM both a consumer and a shareholder via our mutual funds and retirement accounts.

Putting all these 'greedy corporations' out of business would be disastrous for retirees like my mom who uses her RMD's to help pay her assisted living place rent that social security only covers a third of. If we had true competition in both HC and insurance we could have better choices and lower prices, although our society is overly prone to taking a pill over lifestyle and diet changes thanks to a generation of pharma marketing and that is going to take some effort to unwind.

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RunningLogic's avatar

And they justify and talk themselves into thinking that they are somehow doing good or meeting a need 🙄

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SteelJ's avatar

Disagree. The surest sign of sociopathy/psychopathy is absence of empathy for others. I see only lust for power and money regardless of other considerations among our corporate leaders. Dark triad traits exist on a spectrum, it's not like we live in a world of either saints or pure monsters. At the very least, those at the top echelons rank very high on the scale, even if not a perfect 100 (maybe they're nice to their dog?).

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Nancy Fahey's avatar

My phone acting up!!!! But thank you for the biblical….and I can’t help thinking a huge ‘can of worms’ is opened!!!!!

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Sherry 1's avatar

Hope so.

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CStone's avatar

It is in the Word: “As a man sows, that shall he also reap. If he sows to the flesh, he will reap corruption. But he who sows in the Spirit, will reap life everlasting.

And

“He who lives by the sword will die by the sword.”

It’s a matter of G_d’s Law. He said it, therefore those sowing certain seed automatically are under a curse. When G_d speaks, it simply becomes a law that fulfills itself.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻Yes!

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Chevrus's avatar

I wonder if this behavior increased after the Glass Steagal act was repealed ??

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Jpeach's avatar

There are so many motives for this assassination of UHC’s CEO. From disgruntled customers who were denied claims, to financial elites trying to cover up loose ends, to the D.S. trying to cover up Covid loose ends. If the shooter is not caught, the later motives become more viable.

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Sarah Bee's avatar

Right. His brazen actions & “bread crumbs” left behind almost make me think he knows he’s untouchable .. crazy times

I don’t get triggered by much but masks 😷 trigger me!!! Especially when I see one of my child wearing one in a photo from years ago ! Enough with these things already!

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Natalie's avatar

I have only a few...my daughter cheering outside at a highschool football game in a mask. Almost broke herself tumbling bc the stupid thing fell across her eyes.

Other than that I didn't allow my kids to wear them, we started homeschool then too and changed churches.

My #4 out of six child did go to public preschool. He wore a sheild. The only child to. He is also the only child anyone ever recognizes from an entire year of pre k....it's especially funny when he doesn't recognize them back and I have to explain it's bc they wore the stupid face diapers (I say it nicer than that)...

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Beckadee's avatar

Good for you Mom!

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Same here. They represent tyranny.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh I agree!!!! They make me feel a surge of rage every time I see them 😡🤬

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

Maybe it was Ray Epps. 😉

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MnmMom's avatar

Alice, thank you. Funny but …hmmmm…🤔

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Steph D's avatar

I went back to healthcare after quitting in 2020. Only because there are no more jab requirements. (I never took it) I make good money, but seriously it’s painful to watch terminally ill hospice patients deciding to wear masks. The brain washing has been thorough and severe. 🤯

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L  Young's avatar

To combat this triggering effect I always ask myself,

Are they wearing the mask for my safety or for their safety?

If it’s for my safety what are they protecting me from at this point? If it’s for their safety same question.

It’s just stupid now, unless it’s about signaling my ignorance and their political righteousness, then it’s genius.

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Michele's avatar

"His brazen actions & “bread crumbs” left behind..."

...make me think this is an act.

Something's off about this.

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AL's avatar

Yes when the NYT reports “messages on bullet casings” straight out of a Hollywood movie, I’m suspect they’re covering the true motive. Kind of reminds me of the “terrorist’s” passport found in tact on the ground after 9/11. The devil is in the details.

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KCwoofie's avatar

Exactly.

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Michele's avatar

Yep. To many interesting little clues for us plebs to be distracted by.

This smells like the Trump assassination smells. Very fishy.

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cltwilson1's avatar

Maybe the shooter has already been eliminated as well

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Barbara ( Portlander😵‍💫)'s avatar

That’s exactly what my husband said. I think he’s on a remote island somewhere

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M. Dowrick's avatar

Assisination so he would not sing at his conference.the mafia do this all the time.

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M. Dowrick's avatar

He will be caught and why would the police release info on the bullets be inscribed with words. Surely this is some kind of joke. Out of all the things the police could tell the public, they chose to tell something they probably just made up.

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Roger Beal's avatar

It's reminiscent in some ways of Sam Bankman-Fried.

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Toffeepud's avatar

Yeah, the jabs are known to cause cognitive decline, so get ready for more of that.....

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WP William's avatar

Leftists and Progressive-Commies are quite proudly a Death Cult as much as anything else. Even if one of their own gets blazed down, bludgeoned, knifed, raped, kidnapped, they see it as just more advertisement of their Revolutionary "cause" no matter the nebulous nature of the events.

Ergo the masks; no matter if 1 million toddlers and puppies of Climate Activist Elitists were savagely butchered livestreaming by masked jihadi executioners (which is why legit hangmen axe-men wore them as Jeff cited as well) they would love both the spectacle and the opportunism of shaming their opponents and plowing new legislation for their advantage via such a bloodletting event of their own allies and agents.

Revolution Needs Blood.

Justice and Truth must bow to Revolution

No God but Revolution

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Ellen Youngling's avatar

While many people have their fingerprints on file from military service, government employment, and crimes, many do not. He may not be in any database. The cell phone would be a better clue, but until they catch him, his fingerprints and dna won’t help.

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Beckadee's avatar

Maybe. Did the FBI ever break into the phone of that kid in Butler PA? Or was it the hut builder Routh who had all the phones?

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Concerned mom's avatar

What if he put tape or glue over his fingerprints and not wore gloves on purpose??? It would give the police the idea that he would be an easy catch...haha...

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Janet's avatar

Is there no end to the demonic spew of this twisted creature Lorenze? Apparently not.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

She hasn't yet realized she is in someone's cross hairs.

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Tom's avatar

We are being led somewhere.

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Sam's avatar

I disagree that she is celebrating the murder. The tweet I saw just pointed out how they are the number one in denying claims. Read it for yourself and without blinders on.

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