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MKnight's avatar

I watched a news clip yesterday of a young a Mormon soon-to-be missionary reading his mission call around his friends and family, when he literally keeled over in front of all of them and died. Everyone is baffled, of course, and he had no history of prior medical issues.

Every once in awhile, still, I get so so angry at people’s unwillingness to call it what it is. Where’s the outrage???

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AJF's avatar

I assume similar to the non outrage of SIDS deaths happening for decades. EVERYTHING is blamed except vaccination....pillows, bumpers, blankets, mattresses.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Belly vs back, murder by parents or other caretakers.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I was friends with someone whose infant boy died of this and if that alone wasn’t horrible enough, she and her husband had to submit to an investigation to prove they weren’t somehow at fault 😞

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D&R’s Gma's avatar

I read that too. It’s heartbreaking and yet no one in his family or his church seems to be looking beyond the “got super excited “ and bam lights out. 🤷‍♀️ as a momma bear I’d be screaming for answers. But since I’m a momma bear my cubs are not shot up! But I’m with you…where the hell os the outrage?

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

VERY early in the scamdemic I was tracking states' implementation of CV measures, thinking about leaving CA because of the overreach. I recall thinking, "SURELY, the Mormon population in Utah will resist governmental interference in their lives; Utah will remain free", and then seeing like two days later that Utah had implemented "mandates". Huh.

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MKnight's avatar

Worth noting that the kid was actually from Florida, but happened to be in Utah when he passed. So as far as vaccine uptake is concerned, I have no idea what his status was, but a state mandate likely did not play into it.

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Fred's avatar

These SADS are so stereotypical, including the unusually rare success in resuscitating a witnessed arrest, that I no longer have to ask. :(

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RunningLogic's avatar

The Mormon leaders were pushing the shots, I know a family who all got them, even the kids, presumably because of those recommendations 😕

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MKnight's avatar

I know. It was hard to watch. I know people who literally had “questions” and abandoned them immediately when it seemed like direction from the church to just do it. I have been disappointed in so many people in my sphere, and none more so than my fellow LDS members who lost their powers of reason a couple of years ago. My mother, on the flip side, is as devout a member as you would ever meet. She felt like she should not do it, regardless of “advice” given, and stuck by that vehemently. So I suppose I come by my own convictions honestly. :)

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RunningLogic's avatar

I’m glad you and your mother had the good judgment to ignore those recommendations!

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Francis Keays's avatar

I am in SW Idaho where there is a large Mormon population. At first many Mormons resisted the shots, but then the church leadership started pushing them. When the bishop says jump, Mormons jump without even waiting to ask how high.

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Fred's avatar

Yep, shocked when our "never, over my dead body" LDS friends took the shots; sadly both had AE's; turns out the "church" was encouraging everyone to take it. IDK their stance now. Anyone?

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MKnight's avatar

Full disclosure, I am LDS, so I’m biased on this topic. 😂 I’ve done all kinds of mental gymnastics to excuse the vaccine behavior, and it’s exhausting. They’ve been silent on the topic for quite awhile, and there is significant pushback from members against “mandates” where they existed. We are generally a law-abiding, compliant, dutiful, hardworking people, and the “fight the encroaching government” was carefully weeded out of teaching 20-30 years ago. I’m still waiting for an acknowledgement that they were wrong about it all, but don’t see that happening because that’s not what we do.

I can only say that this whole thing has been really enlightening to see where the globalist/WHO people are embedded in the church admin, because they have stood out like a neon flashing sign. At the end of the day, perhaps that was God’s hand to reveal some things. What we do with it now remains to be seen. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Fred's avatar

Thanks for sharing your insight!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes, I appreciate it too!

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

The long march through the institutions definitely did not forget the church is an institution.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

It’s coming. I had a very candid conversation with one of my faculty members yesterday who had serious health issues (severe rheumatoid arthritis, liver and bladder issues). I won’t go into the entire conversation, but when I asked her if she was vaxxed, she almost cried. Her arthritis flared after her second shot (the effects of the shot left her bed ridden for seven weeks!), and she never had liver or bladder issues before getting the shot. She is now seeing a naturopath and undergoing a vax detox (I did share the FLCC protocol w her...just in case). She has refused the booster and is sharing her story with our Spanish speaking families...in one of the most liberal cities in Colorado. It’s coming. People are figuring it out and daring to talk about.

On another note, a very liberal formerly pro-trans faulty member shared that she refuses to use alternate pronouns for her kids, that this whole thing has gotten out of control, and she almost broke down as she told me that one of our 8th graders is medically transitioning from a boy to a girl. It was a weepy but positive conversation. It’s coming. Drip-drip.

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