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RU's avatar

Seems to me the #1 thing they don't want is for people to see their multi-generational grift for what it is. Hiding that grift is the whole purpose of the Uniparty. And that's been Trump's non-stop message for the past 8 years. The Uniparty is also resolutely pro-war b/c that's where their money and power come from. Trump is resolutely anti-war. He exposed their grift and warmongering to more people than anyone else, ever. All of that just doesn't track with a grand scheme to put him in power.

IMO, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...they have a model and it has worked w/o fail for 30+ years. Think of all the wars they've started, then lost and left in disgrace, with all the profits going to a tiny handful of connected individuals. He (that is, we) threw a wrench in that by seeing that people like the Bushes and McConnells of the world are actually aligned with the Clintons and Pelosis, not us. We used Trump to take the (R) party over.

If anything, I could buy that they've realized none of their efforts to remove him have worked. The American system is more resilient than they realized. The people are smarter than they thought. States rights and Constitutional rights have more power than they thought. So, they have resigned themselves to seeing he's very possibly going to win and they will need to find a way control him again. My question is whether he learned from his first term how they work and will surround himself with better people if there is a 2nd term.

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CH's avatar

Everything you say is true except that I think Trump knew many of them were backstabbers. The f'ers are still coming out of the woodwork and stabbing him in the back. It just proves how corrupt our government really is. A Trump second term will be catastrophic for them and they know it. It is why they did not care how obvious the fraud was in 2020. Just like HRC said "If that bas***d wins we all hang" or something like that. They just wanted to get rid of Trump no matter what and they are still trying to do that. I really think things are going to get crazier once Trump wins the Republican nomination and we get closer to Nov 2024. They are liked cornered animals and will burn everything down if it means they lose.

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RU's avatar

I would agree that he knew many would backstab him him. People like us vote for political outsiders b/c the insiders are all corrupt. But, it's a double-edged sword in a way. The fact they're outsiders means they don't have a bench of talent to go to, and they don't have people who understand how the blob works / how things get done. I'm hoping now that he's seen it from the inside, he'll have a plan to deal with it.

Totally agree that things are going to get weirder if/when he wins the (R) nomination. They've been trying to get him off the ballot / out of office for 8 years: first by calling him ugly, fat, stupid, lazy, a racist, a womanizer, a misogynist, and saying his family hated him and his wife had secretly left him. When that didn't work, they tried saying he was mentally ill, saying he had too many financial entanglements, deemed him an agent of a foreign country, indicted him on RICO charges (lol), said he stole national security documents and is a national security threat, etc. None of those tactics have worked. In fact, they seem to have made him even more popular. And he was already the most popular political figure, probably in the world.

IDK how they will react though. The Obama team I think will run for the hills and try to escape accountability. The Clinton team will fight to the death. The useful idiots like Fauci will flee the country or flip. Hard to say. Probably comes down to individual characters. My hope is someone sees an opportunity to personally gain and turns on the cabal, exposing the rot.

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CH's avatar

I think they have and continue to underestimate him. I saw in interview he did many years ago and he always seeks revenge on his enemies. I hope he gets it in this case. It would be a beautiful thing to see! I agree with your analysis of what they will do. Many of them are evil but I think many are cowards and will turn on each other, also.

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WP William's avatar

Julius Caesar and DJ Trump brutally handled by the establishment insider stalwarts elitists, super wealthy, who truly pull the strings, own and attach the strings and who cash in on conspiring with Barbarians, Parthians, whomever helps despoil the Empire and keeps the masses in their rightful place.

WE MUST get a populist Spartacus uprising against the rot at the top and they must join or.....flee

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AL's avatar

I keep an open mind. I know for a fact if they felt Trump were a true threat to their agenda, they would have already killed, maimed or de-platformed him long ago. But they've done the opposite of that. He has a very recent history of borrowing (as did his son) hundreds of millions of dollars from Soros and hanging out with the DNC crowd. Calling out the uniparty--or other obvious facts--is just angry rhetoric that riles up his base. Not hard to figure out what to say.

When he addresses the fact that covid and the injections--both bioweapons created by our gov't were a DOD operation from the start and that agenda was to disable/kill us all, then I might believe in him. But I think negative talk of vaccines is a deal breaker for the mafia, because that cull has been going on for almost 100 years--uncover that entire rat's nest and it's the beginning of game-over. If he's part of it, electing him next November will be Part 3, where Trump calms the majority revolt, ushers in the digital currency (it's a good thing!) and there is NO break in the vaccine agenda.

Do they think he is a threat? Not if he's on board with the bigger agenda, or if the elections are pre-determined, or if somehow they have bigger plans for him. Who really knows.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

How did this guy get away with saying this in 2015?

https://x.com/RealSaavedra/status/983054891345039360?s=20

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AL's avatar

Good question, but it sure riled the party, didn't it?

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