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Runemasque's avatar

It went like this with my trans son: I am a woman and I hope you accept me. Me: I completely love and accept you, and I accept that you are saying that you are a woman. Him: I really am. Me: I hear everything you're saying and accept that you're saying that you really are a woman. I am really your mother, and I love and accept you no matter what. Him: I can't believe you don't accept me.

Then excommunication was enforced upon me.

This was my earliest confusion. Why is it called acceptance of it refers to not accepting one's own self? Why is it acceptance, if it requires accepting a concept of, say, a woman, that the person who says he is a woman cannot explain what he thinks that is? Why is a parent's acceptance unacceptable if they don't believe what their child believes, and loves their child anyways? And, how is it possible to expect someone to perceive a woman where the physical senses perceive a man? If there is no physical reality that can be perceived with the senses tangibly, then what is the meaning of real?

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Gaye's avatar

It’s not just acceptance, it’s mental enslavement that they want. I’m so sorry for your situation. Sooner or later they will come to the realization they’re wrong. Patience needed for sure. God, give us enough to outlast them!

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Dick's avatar

Some time on libs of ticktock has been a revelation. These impressionable kids are told to do that (teachers, predatory social media influencers [groomers], etc.).

Kids are told to expect that and what to do: excommunicate. All in the recipe.

Trust us. Not your hateful parents. See? They don’t understand, but we do. We are Love!

The kids don’t initially think that way; they get “guidance”.

Then it’s reinforced by peers & drs & the whole bloody system.

But resources exist for parents caught in this horrific situation. We need to find & share it.

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Runemasque's avatar

I am saving lots of resources. Miriam Grossman just released a new book, Lost in Trans Nation, which is helpful. The podcast Gender a Wider Lens is excellent. Parents need to understand that kids are getting into this without us realizing. When you get the speech, you are not prepared at all.

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Dick's avatar

Yes. Sounds like you’re on it. All hands on deck, mobilized.

I listened to Miriam Grossman discussing this and the way the parents are traumatized along with the children. That was a major focus of her concern. The parents are vilified, lied to, marginalized and abandoned, while their child is captured & buried ever deeper into this cult. It’s racing against time, too, since you know the trajectory. How do you fight this? How do you maintain your own well-being (which is necessary (!) — because daily life goes on, too)

Allies. Sisters and brothers , of which there are many! Prayer. Information. Tactical and strategic methods. I pray you find them and are kept strong and fighting, loving fit!

🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

Godspeed. A very difficult time. But with God all things are possible. I pray that your son will come back unscathed and that your family will be restored in love to wholeness soon.

Here are the vids I saw. Glad you have the books. (I send these and the summary above for any others too — who may be likewise blindsided in the future. ) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Su2Z4_iQHz4

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7IN7bR_z4Kw

God Bless you Courage, dear mother!

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Jay Horton's avatar

"Then excommunication was enforced upon me." Wow, cut off a the knees. That's gotta hurt like no other.

Best to you.

Later Jay

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Peter GL's avatar

Runemasque, I guess your "son" couldn't accept your acceptance. Poor kid, I feel sorry for you. I hope you aren't expecting grandkids from him

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Wow, Peter GL! Your last sentence was completely unnecessary and pretty much cancels out any "compassion" you attempted in the first 2. 😕

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Dick's avatar

I’m so sorry! How old is he and how long ago did this happen? Is he still at home?(Please pardon my questions — I’m combing through my saved bits to see if I can dispatch some kind of cavalry)

✝️🙏🏽🕊👆🏼

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Runemasque's avatar

I am sharing because this is happening to lots of families. After my shock, and realizing this really happened, I am not interested in just shutting up about it. It is a tragedy, and most parents have no clue this could happen. There is no cavalry except to hope that my son comes to his own realization that he has more options than he thought. He just turned 18 and is living with affirming grandma, who somehow is not concerned by the extreme measures required of trans kids. She bought into the trans training too.

You can pray. You can try to strengthen your own relationships with any young people in your life who may be vulnerable to ideologies. You can try to build compassion for these kids who really are being taken advantage of. You can pray. You can offer your support to families you may meet who are in the middle of this.

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devoalan's avatar

Sorry for your dismay

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