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GoodGrief-239's avatar

I’m not sure Reinette Senum is the one to go to for truthful information about AFLDS. She along with Stew Peters are the 2 people Simone Gold has served a defamation cease and desist against with lawsuit to follow if they don’t.

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Grandma Bear's avatar

I don't know about Stew Peters, but Reinette Senum specifically addressed this in the video and said she has never been served with any suit from Simone Gold.

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

Also she Reinette could honestly say she’s not been served with any suit and still have been served a cease and desist.

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Grandma Bear's avatar

Well, then you are basically saying she lied, right? And turning it into a she said, she said matter, and you give the impression of automatically assuming Simone Gold is right. However, there are actual facts and evidence involved, including an actual court judgment. Facts are facts. When a judge has ruled that you are no longer on the board or an officer in an organization, and you send out fundraising emails and videos saying you are, well, I don't see how that's a she said, she said matter.

Did you watch the video of Wholistic's interview with Reinette? It's eye-opening, as are other videos and articles from both Substacks. I had no opinion on this (and knew nothing about the court case) before I watched the videos and read the articles, and started with positive assumptions about Simone Gold, but the evidence is pretty damning.

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

As I said, I’d like to hear from Jeff on this.

Both sides are making claims.

Have you read the actual court case?

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Grandma Bear's avatar

"Have you read the actual court case?"

Have you read the judge's findings? https://cdn.centerforinquiry.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/33/2023/02/19175017/arizona_minute_entry_2023.pdf

Here's a video where at the end (the whole thing is worth watching) Reinette juxtaposes Simone Gold's claims in an interview with the actual words from the judge's findings. Start 31:59 for that part of the video. https://open.substack.com/pub/reinettesenumsfoghornexpress/p/kevin-jenkins-joins-reinette-senum?r=10ai8&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

This interview between Reinette Senum and Stephanie Brail is very interesting (and in which Reinette denies Gold's claim she has served her with a cease and desist order): https://open.substack.com/pub/wholistic/p/the-simone-gold-story-conversation?r=10ai8&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Sure, it would be interesting to have Jeff weigh in on this, but I think any of us can look into the facts and make decisions about this on our own.

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

I find it interesting that in August 2022 AFLDS was using her name and imprisonment to raise money. You could bet on how many push-ups she could do by the end of her stay. In order to bet you had to donate, but you would win something.

I find it interesting that it is impossible to contact them by phone, email, or website. Very poorly run.

Everything is not always as it seems.

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

Really important for Jeff to weigh in on this for sure!!

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