@BFM not only that, anyone who spoke against the vax or didn’t want to take it was derided as being anti-Christian, uncharitable, and just plain ungodly. “Don’t you CARE about others’ wellbeing???” Grrrr.
I had several otherwise solid Christian friends tell me to just get the shots already - they'd proven effective and safe .. after 5-6 months. Ummm. I was in the "wait and see" camp, but that heavy push moved me into the "nope" camp.
Yes, that heavy push. No "push" required if situation really required the jab. And now we all (!) know the real story of all vaccines. Thank you, Turtles' authors.
They seemed to forget that Jesus didn’t go along with and blindly follow government or even religious leaders of his day. And Jesus didn’t go around giving people medications/vaccines.
So, when I was asked what would Jesus do, I answered: Jesus would pray and follow God’s direction. When I prayed, God told me not to take the jabs. Therefore, I am doing what Jesus would do.
I know many who have prayed to know what Jesus would do and...surprise! ...it turned out that Jesus would do exactly what they wanted to do in the first place.
I've noticed this especially in the case/situation of an unplanned/unwanted pregnancy.
And Jesus was the one who said "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's--which certainly is not a mandated injection--even if "Public Health" is in Caesar's purview.
Exactly. They usually don’t even have a clue about what Jesus would do, they’re trying to make a “gotcha” point but it doesn’t work with anyone who knows what Jesus is really about.
To which one might respond, "My body is a temple of God". I care first for God, second for his other creatures." "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom"....I suspect that there are a great many other apposite verses one might have used. I was fortunate in never coming upon this situation.
Ours was just organic. It started in May 2022. It's a small church with expository preaching. The pastor is a graduate from Masters (Meaning Jesus is Master) Seminary. You can check the Find a Church on their website but there's no guarantee that the graduate will be anti-vax. If you recall John MacArthur who head the seminary refused to shut down his church even though Newsome closed all churches by state order for years. MacArthur also refused the vax and the mask. The pastor of our church told people that he wasn't their parent, they were adults and they could make their own decisions but that he would not be doing any of it. I would simply call any pastor before you go and ask questions about doctrine and also COVID dogma. That interview of the pastor should tell you all you need to know. Also, smaller churches tend to be more closely knit.
A lot feel into the trap of "we have to keep our older members safe" without questioning anything at all. Masks? Sure. Shots? Too many yes's. Distancing? Yup. No singing? _sigh_ Wait - why are we losing members? Why does nobody want to join us? We're open again after (months/years).
My dad's been sad that their church has no real return of members after 2 years of "online only" and a s l o w return to semi-normal. (doesn't help that they're UMC to boot) I told him that their church (and others) told people for a couple of years that they didn't want them there. The people listened.
Contrast with churches during a real medical outbreak like the Plague - open, ministering to people, and right there in the midst trying to help.
I'm glad the church we're part of didn't buy into the "show your shot card to attend" camp, but they bought into the mask nonsense for a year and some before dropping that. I don't know if leadership can see that as the nonsense it was rather than thinking it had something to do with saving lives. But yeah - too many bought into it. I'm sad to think how many good people were harmed by the shots because they trusted the experts. :(
I disagree and not really the point: Jesus ministered and brought healing and love to a shunned class. That's the point; just what the church should have been doing but many (maybe most) failed. The outcome of which is obvious as sited in the Peter Schott's Fathers church example above.
if Jesus coud (and obviously did) remain safe, along with His closest workers, as He minisered to any and all, [articulary the poor and oucases, is He not also capable of protecting OUR own selves , His servants, as we do IS work?
What guarantee did Stephen have as he stood up for the outcast? None. ANd he was martyred for his service... which "just happened" to provide a more than geopemtric grown to the church both in Jerusalem and the rest of the nown world.
If God is truly in conrol, why do WE wart about silly things like mug napies, shots in the arm, being "disliked" because we do/don't go along with some gummit mamdate.... WHO is our Lord?
We subscribe to a small-town Maine newspaper (we live 500 miles away)--some of the churches in their weekly announcement page are still suggesting masks.
And when the pot dispensaries, and booze stores, and fast food joints were allowed to be open, but not the Churches... did they not realize they were being scammed?
I know of at least one large church in VA that took "paycheck protection" money. Many in the congregation were aghast. It was in a university community where almost no one lost their job. Giving never suffered during the fear year.
Yeap! The same way there was $$$$$ for hospitals that admitted "covid sick" and more $$$ if the patient "needed intubation" ... so lots and lots of them did! :(
AND if they died of COVID.... well, them hospitals were raking in the dough like nobody's business!
Read Jesus' own words as He introduces that Mark with his guys ip on the Mountain. Look up the greek word translated as "mark" whej Jesus dscribes it. Read about WHERE He says that mark" will be placed. hen turn over a few more verses and read howHe plainly declared that "all these things" (which include the mark of he beast) "will take place before THIS generation (the one on earth when He was speaking) "passes away".
An invisible shot in the ARM (not forehaed or right wrist/hand) is NOT the Mark He soke of, and further if it is given now it is waaaaay past "this generation" wo whom He was speaking.
Learn your bible. I is there for YOU. And through YOU to those around you
I was speaking metaphorically. About the rashes now showing up on jabbees' skin And as it happens, I am in 35 Jeremiah today, reading from Genesis 1:1, reading the Pentateuch twice before going on to Joshua, and not skipping a single word of the pedigrees.
jabs and rashes, I get. Still NO connexion whatever wth the "Mark of he Beast" of which Jesus spoke. That was a very specific thing ied to a specific ime and place and for a specific purpose. the shots and resulatnt rashes have nought to do with it.
the "little season"? Don't get it. This is the season where Saan is bound, cannot do as he wills but is "on a short chain" and unable to thwart God's Kingdom as it advances. It is in this LONG season where we, the Church, are to be about saturating the world, the nations, the whole earth, wigh the gospel of peace that many millions, even billions, will come into the Kingdom. Toward the end of this LONG season Satan will be released once more, for a short while, where he will go nuts and try and destroy as much as he can... but that time will be VERY short, and he will utterly fail.This Gospel WILL go out to the entire world before Jesus comes in the clouds and claims His own to come along and be with Him forever. Then that ol draggin scoundrel will get his final fling.... right smack dab into the middle of that lake of fire that will never cool off. Then he is done done DONE.
Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
You wrote a beautiful explanation of my previous beliefs. But Jesus is not a liar, so how can we reconcile Matthew 10:23?..."But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come." KJV
not sure what rabbit hole you think I've gone down.....
It comes down to the meaning of "the return" of Jesus.
He came in the flesh by way of Mary the virgin mother. What should have been "his" people falsely accused Him and murdered Him, then stuffed Him into the grave.
so He came again, right outta that cleft in the rock. Is that the time you reference above?
He also came again IN JUDGEMENT upon those very people who killed Him. He came to utterly destroy every vestige of the Jewish system that put Him to death. "Vengeance is MINE says the Lord. I will repay." Is that the time you mention? He destroyed their land, their city, their temple which THEY had completely corrupted, their culture, their feasts, their dwelling place, their religion..... the desolation He predicted as He spoke to his Twelve up there on the Mount of Olives came to reality before "this present generation passes away", the same generation that killed Him, the Lord of Glory. To put it in terms or our own calendar system, that was before the end of the year 73 AD.
And He will yet come again to collect ALL of His own and invite us to come along with Him into the Heavens for the rest of eternity. Or is that the coming back you mean?
Revelation 6:11..."And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled."
Revelation 20:3..."And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season."
And those rashes are not minor. I know of 3 people who have severe. full body rashes after getting boosters. Of course, pharmaceuticals to the rescue. We have a medication that will fix that problem that we created.
And also from just the vaxxed shedding.. I take care of a baby… she was vaccinated for chicken pox… immediately following I developed shingles. There’s a connection.
I thought the reason shingles on the rise is because of chicken pox vaxx and the fact adults are no longer re-exposed to chicken pox so immunity from when we orignally had chicken pox has waned. Everyone telling me to go get shingles vaxx but I am not interested. God gave me an immune system. Perhaps I will regret it (people share their horror stories) but I think I would regret vaxx more.
That confirms what I'm seeing in my small circle of friends (mostly from church). People will poo poo the Vax as the reason, saying it's one of the age-related diseases, but that doesn't work for people in their early middle age.
Reminder - stay away from ALL jabs, vaccines or unproven "treatments" such as "cancer treatments" which I believe have been the killers of most cancer patients....
I am unvaxxed - but when I got Cvd I broke out in hives due to heat or cold for about 6 months after I recovered. That poison they concocted causes lots of these problem. Then when people unfortunately choose (or feel forced) to jab themselves with it ….it creates a much worse situation. My friend developed hyperthyroidism post Cvd infection - was not vxd.
How does anyone know there was an improvement in immunity? Some people have strong natural immunity and may have remained healthy for years, even without the shot. Vax enthusiasts say there's no link between the shots and disease or death, but the converse is true. There's no link between the shots and not getting covid.
Infection rates were down (early on, before most of us had the clearly superior natural immunity) for a few months…still totally not worth it. The UK data is a good place to look because they didn’t use the 14d excuse, and their NHS records weren’t as manipulated as our VAERS data. IMO, of course.
How does anyone know exactly what his natural immunity protects him against? Is it possible to be immune from a disease one has never encountered? Or is it assumed that his immune system must have been challenged before, without his knowledge, because when he knew he was exposed to an infective agent, he didn't succumb to it?
I believe healthy people can mount an immune defense even if they have never had something. We are exposed to natural boosting through circulating viruses and bacteria and all forms of antigens we live with, around us and in being in contact with as we walk through life. That’s how it works. A high D level supports a strong immune system. It’s a magnificent complicated system we really know very little about.
I agree. I take D3 and others. The immune system is an amazing part of creation, one of those things that works well unless intentionally impaired by, uh, certain injectable fluids that the U.S. government squandered tax money on.
I have a friend whose two daughters had to be vaxxed for school here in San Diego. The younger one has had two menstrual periods per month, developed anemia, and now has a host of other health issues such as Reynaud’s syndrome and unexplained tumors. It breaks my heart.
Would have NEVER jabbed my kiddos for school.... I told them, if your sport requires it, you'll be dropping that sport.... UNfortunately, my friend had her daughter jabbed multiple times to keep her ice skating...
I use Xclear nasal spray when I’m around people. Extra olive leaf supplement , change clothes and shower. & I drink coconut water when I’m out, no more coffee, need the electrolytes.. They have no idea the extra precautions I take to be social.
I dunno. For me, yes, that’s true. I refused and was prepared to walk away from my career. But what about the single mom of three who is a nurse and is worried about making her rent payment? She had to keep a roof over her children’s heads. And it’s not like anyone else was hiring during that time. To me, she sacrificed herself for her children, and I certainly cannot fault her for that decision. There are plenty of ways I can think of that people truly were forced. It was the only decision they could have made. And it infuriates me that they were put in that position.
I get your point, and I don’t disagree. But at that time, a lot of people felt like the risks were small, and it enabled them to feed their children. I simply cannot fault them. I had the luxury of knowing I would be okay if I walked away from my job. I had the luxury of enough time in my day to question, research, dig, dig, dig. There were lots of people who had no such luxuries. They live day-to-day. They focus on putting one foot in front of the other. They use all their energy keeping their heads (and their loved ones’ heads) above water. I simply cannot judge them for making the decisions they made.
I most certainly DO, however, blame every single person who put them in that position: those who unleashed the monster, those who created the poison, those who promoted death (in the form of benevolent rescue). Most especially, I blame the assholes who stood in the way of real discussion, real debate, and real treatments. Those who mocked us, who denigrated us at every opportunity. Those who turned families and friends against each other. Those who stole our children’s childhoods. Those who forced our loved ones to die alone, feeling unloved. I reserve my rage for them. Not for the overworked, overwhelmed, overpowered, genuinely good people who did what they felt they had to do.
No, I wouldn't judge them, either, because I've made mistakes in my life, even when I knew better. Most of the time they know they made the wrong choice -- and it was their choice, even though it was an extraordinarily difficult one to make, for everyone. At any rate, they don't need to be told the obvious, and do not to be ridiculed or criticized. It's enough to have to live with the deleterious effects of their decision. But they do need to admit it was a bad idea, and seek help. There are things they can do to possibly mitigate the harm. If they ignore the problem, they're not going to look for solutions that could really benefit them.
Both the disease and the “antidote “ they created wreak havoc on complex systems in the body, systems they have woefully limited knowledge of. But beyond the $cience and their greed, are they true believers in some sort of death cult ?
I actually heard someone say that...to my face...if he hadn't taken the shots and the boosters he would be dead, wellllll dude, they just delayed your demise and made it 10x worse!
And how to explain all of those unvaxxed who didn’t get Covid or only had a mild case? “Oh they’re just lucky.” And the people who got the vax and still got really sick and/or were hospitalized and/or died? “Oh they’re just unlucky.” So what you’re telling me is… the effectiveness of this shot really comes down to… luck?? 🤨🤔
Good point. Some who didn't take the shots weren't really the lucky type, in that they had other serious conditions, but still didn't get covid. Perhaps they were healthier because they avoided vaccines.
I just watched War of The Worlds with Tom Cruise. The aliens died because they couldn't survive on this planet because we had immunities against stuff and they did not. Or some such bullshit.
The induced autoimmunity underlying the rashes is at the core, and IMHO, cannot be overcome. The LNP problem of decades has not, I repeat not, been fixed, ‘Nobel prize’ notwithstanding.
“Puzzling skin side effects stymie advance of promising HIV vaccine.”
Death, strokes, Guillain-Barré syndrome, turbo cancers, and infertility are just fine, but we absolutely CANNOT tolerate rashes. Shut it down.
Skin rashes too visible for all to see?
I think that's it.
It's a shame marker for the vaxxed.
I doubt they'll be heading in for another 'booster'.
Mark of the Beast again.
I'm still shocked at how the Churches went right on board with the whole scam.
Barely questioned the Vaxx Card requirement, despite the similarity to 'The Mark' as described in the scripture.
@BFM not only that, anyone who spoke against the vax or didn’t want to take it was derided as being anti-Christian, uncharitable, and just plain ungodly. “Don’t you CARE about others’ wellbeing???” Grrrr.
I had several otherwise solid Christian friends tell me to just get the shots already - they'd proven effective and safe .. after 5-6 months. Ummm. I was in the "wait and see" camp, but that heavy push moved me into the "nope" camp.
Yes, that heavy push. No "push" required if situation really required the jab. And now we all (!) know the real story of all vaccines. Thank you, Turtles' authors.
Yes a lot of self righteous and smug “what would Jesus do?” types of comments 🙄
They seemed to forget that Jesus didn’t go along with and blindly follow government or even religious leaders of his day. And Jesus didn’t go around giving people medications/vaccines.
So, when I was asked what would Jesus do, I answered: Jesus would pray and follow God’s direction. When I prayed, God told me not to take the jabs. Therefore, I am doing what Jesus would do.
Good point: Jesus certainly did not go along to get along!
I know many who have prayed to know what Jesus would do and...surprise! ...it turned out that Jesus would do exactly what they wanted to do in the first place.
I've noticed this especially in the case/situation of an unplanned/unwanted pregnancy.
Well, Jesus would never have had an abortion, so there is that element to consider.
And Jesus was the one who said "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's--which certainly is not a mandated injection--even if "Public Health" is in Caesar's purview.
Exactly. They usually don’t even have a clue about what Jesus would do, they’re trying to make a “gotcha” point but it doesn’t work with anyone who knows what Jesus is really about.
Would Jesus get the Jab?
I'd say he'd be in the pureblood camp.
To which one might respond, "My body is a temple of God". I care first for God, second for his other creatures." "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom"....I suspect that there are a great many other apposite verses one might have used. I was fortunate in never coming upon this situation.
Well that latter line could be used against someone claiming "gender affirming care" to be wrong, ungodly, deadly.
Not all churches. My church is mostly anti-vaxxers.
Robin, I've wondered about that. Do you have any tips about how to find a church of 'mostly anti-vaxxers'? (anti is even better than un!)
Ours was just organic. It started in May 2022. It's a small church with expository preaching. The pastor is a graduate from Masters (Meaning Jesus is Master) Seminary. You can check the Find a Church on their website but there's no guarantee that the graduate will be anti-vax. If you recall John MacArthur who head the seminary refused to shut down his church even though Newsome closed all churches by state order for years. MacArthur also refused the vax and the mask. The pastor of our church told people that he wasn't their parent, they were adults and they could make their own decisions but that he would not be doing any of it. I would simply call any pastor before you go and ask questions about doctrine and also COVID dogma. That interview of the pastor should tell you all you need to know. Also, smaller churches tend to be more closely knit.
Look up Rabbi Michoel Green. A moral giant of truth and integrity. He stood up to medical tyrants and wrote exemption letters for thousands.
Thank you for this thoughtful reply!
Freed thinkers. Freed from condemnation and slavery of sin and freed from slavery to propagandist ideas. Living in the Way and The Truth and The Life.
Surely it should be. But clearly it has not been.
A lot feel into the trap of "we have to keep our older members safe" without questioning anything at all. Masks? Sure. Shots? Too many yes's. Distancing? Yup. No singing? _sigh_ Wait - why are we losing members? Why does nobody want to join us? We're open again after (months/years).
My dad's been sad that their church has no real return of members after 2 years of "online only" and a s l o w return to semi-normal. (doesn't help that they're UMC to boot) I told him that their church (and others) told people for a couple of years that they didn't want them there. The people listened.
Contrast with churches during a real medical outbreak like the Plague - open, ministering to people, and right there in the midst trying to help.
I'm glad the church we're part of didn't buy into the "show your shot card to attend" camp, but they bought into the mask nonsense for a year and some before dropping that. I don't know if leadership can see that as the nonsense it was rather than thinking it had something to do with saving lives. But yeah - too many bought into it. I'm sad to think how many good people were harmed by the shots because they trusted the experts. :(
If you remember: Jesus used to hang with the lepers so, there you go!
Later Jay
Well, He knew he wouldn't get the disease or would be able to heal Himself, so that's not really a good analogy... IMO.
I disagree and not really the point: Jesus ministered and brought healing and love to a shunned class. That's the point; just what the church should have been doing but many (maybe most) failed. The outcome of which is obvious as sited in the Peter Schott's Fathers church example above.
Later Jay
if Jesus coud (and obviously did) remain safe, along with His closest workers, as He minisered to any and all, [articulary the poor and oucases, is He not also capable of protecting OUR own selves , His servants, as we do IS work?
What guarantee did Stephen have as he stood up for the outcast? None. ANd he was martyred for his service... which "just happened" to provide a more than geopemtric grown to the church both in Jerusalem and the rest of the nown world.
If God is truly in conrol, why do WE wart about silly things like mug napies, shots in the arm, being "disliked" because we do/don't go along with some gummit mamdate.... WHO is our Lord?
Amen!
We subscribe to a small-town Maine newspaper (we live 500 miles away)--some of the churches in their weekly announcement page are still suggesting masks.
🙄
And when the pot dispensaries, and booze stores, and fast food joints were allowed to be open, but not the Churches... did they not realize they were being scammed?
This. It was the easiest call all time.
But they had scales over their eyes
Perhaps Bishop Emmanuel should go on a world tour, and kick some spiritual butt in certain denominations' pulpits.
My take is "Nice little 501c3 you've got there, pastor/presbytery/synod-----be a shame if....."
NOT ALL churches!!! Mine REFUSED the $$$$$ that was doled out to keep them CLOSED!!!
So you KNOW there was money--I had 'heard' and suspected, but didn't really know.
I know of at least one large church in VA that took "paycheck protection" money. Many in the congregation were aghast. It was in a university community where almost no one lost their job. Giving never suffered during the fear year.
Yeap! The same way there was $$$$$ for hospitals that admitted "covid sick" and more $$$ if the patient "needed intubation" ... so lots and lots of them did! :(
AND if they died of COVID.... well, them hospitals were raking in the dough like nobody's business!
Based, why do you think that was the case? What happened to those clergy and members who bought the scam?
It was a weird psychological time. So odd how so few church leaders questioned it.
despite the similarity to 'The Mark' as described in the scripture.
read those scripture verses again.... I posted on this below. Read that and reconsider.
NOT POSSIBLE t be the mark of the beast.
Read Jesus' own words as He introduces that Mark with his guys ip on the Mountain. Look up the greek word translated as "mark" whej Jesus dscribes it. Read about WHERE He says that mark" will be placed. hen turn over a few more verses and read howHe plainly declared that "all these things" (which include the mark of he beast) "will take place before THIS generation (the one on earth when He was speaking) "passes away".
An invisible shot in the ARM (not forehaed or right wrist/hand) is NOT the Mark He soke of, and further if it is given now it is waaaaay past "this generation" wo whom He was speaking.
Learn your bible. I is there for YOU. And through YOU to those around you
I was speaking metaphorically. About the rashes now showing up on jabbees' skin And as it happens, I am in 35 Jeremiah today, reading from Genesis 1:1, reading the Pentateuch twice before going on to Joshua, and not skipping a single word of the pedigrees.
jabs and rashes, I get. Still NO connexion whatever wth the "Mark of he Beast" of which Jesus spoke. That was a very specific thing ied to a specific ime and place and for a specific purpose. the shots and resulatnt rashes have nought to do with it.
We are in the Little Season. Rev. 6:11 and 20:3
Surprise!!!
the "little season"? Don't get it. This is the season where Saan is bound, cannot do as he wills but is "on a short chain" and unable to thwart God's Kingdom as it advances. It is in this LONG season where we, the Church, are to be about saturating the world, the nations, the whole earth, wigh the gospel of peace that many millions, even billions, will come into the Kingdom. Toward the end of this LONG season Satan will be released once more, for a short while, where he will go nuts and try and destroy as much as he can... but that time will be VERY short, and he will utterly fail.This Gospel WILL go out to the entire world before Jesus comes in the clouds and claims His own to come along and be with Him forever. Then that ol draggin scoundrel will get his final fling.... right smack dab into the middle of that lake of fire that will never cool off. Then he is done done DONE.
Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
You wrote a beautiful explanation of my previous beliefs. But Jesus is not a liar, so how can we reconcile Matthew 10:23?..."But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come." KJV
This is the end of ALL the rabbit holes, friend.
not sure what rabbit hole you think I've gone down.....
It comes down to the meaning of "the return" of Jesus.
He came in the flesh by way of Mary the virgin mother. What should have been "his" people falsely accused Him and murdered Him, then stuffed Him into the grave.
so He came again, right outta that cleft in the rock. Is that the time you reference above?
He also came again IN JUDGEMENT upon those very people who killed Him. He came to utterly destroy every vestige of the Jewish system that put Him to death. "Vengeance is MINE says the Lord. I will repay." Is that the time you mention? He destroyed their land, their city, their temple which THEY had completely corrupted, their culture, their feasts, their dwelling place, their religion..... the desolation He predicted as He spoke to his Twelve up there on the Mount of Olives came to reality before "this present generation passes away", the same generation that killed Him, the Lord of Glory. To put it in terms or our own calendar system, that was before the end of the year 73 AD.
And He will yet come again to collect ALL of His own and invite us to come along with Him into the Heavens for the rest of eternity. Or is that the coming back you mean?
Revelation 6:11..."And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled."
Revelation 20:3..."And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season."
Brilliantly said!
And those rashes are not minor. I know of 3 people who have severe. full body rashes after getting boosters. Of course, pharmaceuticals to the rescue. We have a medication that will fix that problem that we created.
Lots of shingles cases from the jabs
And also from just the vaxxed shedding.. I take care of a baby… she was vaccinated for chicken pox… immediately following I developed shingles. There’s a connection.
I thought the reason shingles on the rise is because of chicken pox vaxx and the fact adults are no longer re-exposed to chicken pox so immunity from when we orignally had chicken pox has waned. Everyone telling me to go get shingles vaxx but I am not interested. God gave me an immune system. Perhaps I will regret it (people share their horror stories) but I think I would regret vaxx more.
You are wise.
Trust in the Devine healer… not pharma
That’s true. No more natural boosting by the circulating virus. Another side affect, actually, of a vaccine.
There must be some connection....my husband got covid after (from?) the shingles shot. 🙄
Was the chemical composition of the shingles jab changed a few years ago? I had both of them about 15 years ago with zero noted negative reactions.
The first shingles jab was just one stab. The second one is two. The first was deemed ineffective. Such nonsense. 🙄
That confirms what I'm seeing in my small circle of friends (mostly from church). People will poo poo the Vax as the reason, saying it's one of the age-related diseases, but that doesn't work for people in their early middle age.
I've seen that as well.
Reminder- stay away from Shingles jab. Plenty of scare campaigns out there.
Reminder - stay away from ALL jabs, vaccines or unproven "treatments" such as "cancer treatments" which I believe have been the killers of most cancer patients....
I am unvaxxed - but when I got Cvd I broke out in hives due to heat or cold for about 6 months after I recovered. That poison they concocted causes lots of these problem. Then when people unfortunately choose (or feel forced) to jab themselves with it ….it creates a much worse situation. My friend developed hyperthyroidism post Cvd infection - was not vxd.
Even the teenagers in my neighborhood have become sickly. You can see it on their faces.
It was Evil to make children take that poison...and it was all for no benefit.
It was for profit...benefit to some, tragic for others.
I think the “benefit,” IF there was one, was 3 months of improved immunity. Of course, you were much more likely to die, but…
NHS data from early 2021 showed a lower infection rate but 8x higher death rate in the shot group. Scroll down to Figure 1:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8459929/
How does anyone know there was an improvement in immunity? Some people have strong natural immunity and may have remained healthy for years, even without the shot. Vax enthusiasts say there's no link between the shots and disease or death, but the converse is true. There's no link between the shots and not getting covid.
Infection rates were down (early on, before most of us had the clearly superior natural immunity) for a few months…still totally not worth it. The UK data is a good place to look because they didn’t use the 14d excuse, and their NHS records weren’t as manipulated as our VAERS data. IMO, of course.
How does anyone know exactly what his natural immunity protects him against? Is it possible to be immune from a disease one has never encountered? Or is it assumed that his immune system must have been challenged before, without his knowledge, because when he knew he was exposed to an infective agent, he didn't succumb to it?
I believe healthy people can mount an immune defense even if they have never had something. We are exposed to natural boosting through circulating viruses and bacteria and all forms of antigens we live with, around us and in being in contact with as we walk through life. That’s how it works. A high D level supports a strong immune system. It’s a magnificent complicated system we really know very little about.
I agree. I take D3 and others. The immune system is an amazing part of creation, one of those things that works well unless intentionally impaired by, uh, certain injectable fluids that the U.S. government squandered tax money on.
I remain firmly on the side of risk >>>>>> benefit.
Yes definitely no net benefit.
Wasn't it a huge benefit for big pharma?
Wow. How can ANYONE look at that second graph and say, “yeah, this looks like something we need to force everyone to take”?? 😳
I have a friend whose two daughters had to be vaxxed for school here in San Diego. The younger one has had two menstrual periods per month, developed anemia, and now has a host of other health issues such as Reynaud’s syndrome and unexplained tumors. It breaks my heart.
Would have NEVER jabbed my kiddos for school.... I told them, if your sport requires it, you'll be dropping that sport.... UNfortunately, my friend had her daughter jabbed multiple times to keep her ice skating...
I know. It's sickening.
Given to increase the death rate...
I had bleeding in menopause and still get headaches around jabbed people. I take extra supplements and shower and change clothes after.
Me too… every time my sister-in-law was shot up and we visited, I would have bleeding and feel bad. 😬
It’s insulting that it’s shedding by design.
I use Xclear nasal spray when I’m around people. Extra olive leaf supplement , change clothes and shower. & I drink coconut water when I’m out, no more coffee, need the electrolytes.. They have no idea the extra precautions I take to be social.
& the irony, remember when the unvaccinated were going to kill everyone yet the opposite is true.
Nobody was forced to get jabbed. They were forced to stand up for themselves and chose not to.
I dunno. For me, yes, that’s true. I refused and was prepared to walk away from my career. But what about the single mom of three who is a nurse and is worried about making her rent payment? She had to keep a roof over her children’s heads. And it’s not like anyone else was hiring during that time. To me, she sacrificed herself for her children, and I certainly cannot fault her for that decision. There are plenty of ways I can think of that people truly were forced. It was the only decision they could have made. And it infuriates me that they were put in that position.
I agree. A lot of people took the risk that “it won’t happen to me“ if they took the jab. There was a family to feed.
This is all still playing out. In the coming years, we will see more illness and death — and orphans.
It’s a heartbreak.
Agreed. Absolutely heartbreaking. 💔
What's worse, an unemployed mother forced to take government assistance, or a mother who left orphans or became permanently disabled?
I get your point, and I don’t disagree. But at that time, a lot of people felt like the risks were small, and it enabled them to feed their children. I simply cannot fault them. I had the luxury of knowing I would be okay if I walked away from my job. I had the luxury of enough time in my day to question, research, dig, dig, dig. There were lots of people who had no such luxuries. They live day-to-day. They focus on putting one foot in front of the other. They use all their energy keeping their heads (and their loved ones’ heads) above water. I simply cannot judge them for making the decisions they made.
I most certainly DO, however, blame every single person who put them in that position: those who unleashed the monster, those who created the poison, those who promoted death (in the form of benevolent rescue). Most especially, I blame the assholes who stood in the way of real discussion, real debate, and real treatments. Those who mocked us, who denigrated us at every opportunity. Those who turned families and friends against each other. Those who stole our children’s childhoods. Those who forced our loved ones to die alone, feeling unloved. I reserve my rage for them. Not for the overworked, overwhelmed, overpowered, genuinely good people who did what they felt they had to do.
No, I wouldn't judge them, either, because I've made mistakes in my life, even when I knew better. Most of the time they know they made the wrong choice -- and it was their choice, even though it was an extraordinarily difficult one to make, for everyone. At any rate, they don't need to be told the obvious, and do not to be ridiculed or criticized. It's enough to have to live with the deleterious effects of their decision. But they do need to admit it was a bad idea, and seek help. There are things they can do to possibly mitigate the harm. If they ignore the problem, they're not going to look for solutions that could really benefit them.
Both the disease and the “antidote “ they created wreak havoc on complex systems in the body, systems they have woefully limited knowledge of. But beyond the $cience and their greed, are they true believers in some sort of death cult ?
In some, to the extent that even wearing clothes is intolerable.
I wish substack had a "SAD" (sadly, pun intended) emoji or balck heart..... I would use it here.
I have the keyboard emoji's 😔 which makes me happy 😃
It could've been soooo much worse
"My face isn't drooping as much and my cardiologist says my myocarditis is getting better. Thankfully my 5 covid infections have been mild".
"Those infections would have been killed me had I not taken all 10 of those boosters!"
I actually heard someone say that...to my face...if he hadn't taken the shots and the boosters he would be dead, wellllll dude, they just delayed your demise and made it 10x worse!
And how to explain all of those unvaxxed who didn’t get Covid or only had a mild case? “Oh they’re just lucky.” And the people who got the vax and still got really sick and/or were hospitalized and/or died? “Oh they’re just unlucky.” So what you’re telling me is… the effectiveness of this shot really comes down to… luck?? 🤨🤔
Good point. Some who didn't take the shots weren't really the lucky type, in that they had other serious conditions, but still didn't get covid. Perhaps they were healthier because they avoided vaccines.
Pretty much it, as you said! Damned if you do and damned if you don't aka, no matter what you say or try to tell them
It’s just magical thinking, they bend their thoughts to suit whatever they are told to believe 😕 No matter that it makes no sense at all.
They were sent a delusion and believed the lie, biblical prophecy in action, right folks?!?!?!?!!!!
Yes. "magical thinking." Trending!
The year is 2045:
Aliens arrive to find homosapien has successfully eliminated the host in waging a tireless WAR AGAINST VIRUSES!
Theyre so brainwashed we'd have to convince them that through their actions they have eliminated all viruses on planet earth forever.
And deep down inside they think WE are the virus. So...
We are the virus
Exactly. That's what I'm saying
I just watched War of The Worlds with Tom Cruise. The aliens died because they couldn't survive on this planet because we had immunities against stuff and they did not. Or some such bullshit.
HA! But if I hadn't taken the vaxxes, it could have been worse!
That's exactly what they sound like! It's so mind boggling
You might like this poem:
It Might Have Been Worse
Sometimes I pause and sadly think
—Of the things that might have been,
Of the golden chances I let slip by,
—And which never returned again.
Think of the joys that might have been mine;
—The prizes I almost won,
The goals I missed by a mere hair's breadth;
—And the things I might have done.
It fills me with gloom when I ponder thus,
—Till I look on the other side,
How I might have been completely engulfed
—By misfortune's surging tide.
The unknown dangers lurking about,
—Which I passed safely through
The evils and sorrows that I've been spared
—Pass plainly now in review.
So when I am downcast and feeling sad,
—I repeat over and over again,
Things are far from being as bad
—As they easily might have been.
by G. J. Russell
That is beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing
Skin, the largest organ of the human body. It just so happens it's the organ that everybody can readily see.
Look! I spy a Limited Hangout Bird just over yonder…..let’s put down our own thoughts and investigate….
Just as I thought….it has nested in the Nothing to See Here bush and is in a state of rest….
Phew! Crisis averted ….
The induced autoimmunity underlying the rashes is at the core, and IMHO, cannot be overcome. The LNP problem of decades has not, I repeat not, been fixed, ‘Nobel prize’ notwithstanding.