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Ed Thorrens's avatar

ā€œAnd let us not grow weary while doing good, for in due season we shall reap if we do not lose heart. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all, especially to those who are of the household of faith.ā€

‭‭Galatians‬ ‭6‬:‭9‬-‭10‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

https://bible.com/bible/114/gal.6.9-10.NKJV

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Sunnydaze's avatar

THAT is a fitting scripture for lots of reasons, but the South Carolina bill is a direct result of fighters who did not ā€œgrow weary while doing good, for in due season we shall reap if we do not lose heart.ā€ Never give up! Protect our children. Your kids and grandkids might thank you someday.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Amen!! I see so many people saying, ā€œoh it’s useless, they’re winning and we just can’t do anything about itā€ šŸ˜• They’re wrong!! We have to keep trying and not give up!

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Robin Greer's avatar

Think about where we'd be if those in the WWII era gave up.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Think about where we would be if the patriots of the American revolution thought that way.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Right??!

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ROKM's avatar

Remember Churchill. This gives me chills and was a rallying cry. Still should be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVEiskNv1hs

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Robin Greer's avatar

Oh to have strong leaders today...

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Just An American's avatar

To be fair, we had a coherent, much more honest and mostly Christian country in 1941. Hell by 1940 we basically did have one party rule. They would all look at the Democrats of today and go: "Wait, who are these people again?! Because those aren't Democrats!"

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Robin Greer's avatar

Seems like everything is different from that era of time. But I'm certain the world was as tense then as it is now.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I become overwhelmed on a regular basis - and then the Holy Spirit sends me a verse or verses of Scripture that compel me otherwise! PRAISE BE - WE ARE ONLY THE "SOLDIERS OF THE CROSS" - THE BATTLE BELONGS TO THE LORD GOD OF HEAVEN AND EARTH!

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P Flournoy's avatar

Thank goodness our founding fathers didn’t say that about the British. I think God was preparing me for what is happening now because one day several years ago, I was thinking about my ancestors that I had been researching and wondered if I could be a patriot like they were. We cannot give up!

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AJF's avatar

I'm choosing genetically experimented on and injured (or killed) from it and protecting children are my hills to die on.

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MCN's avatar

Two of those fighters who helped get the bill passed are my State Representatives, one for the county and one for the city I live in, in that county. They produce a pod cast each week summing up the events for the week. They are great, among others.

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nancy roberts's avatar

God always does His most amazing work through a small remnant. And He uses the simple, base and foolish things according to the worlds' standard. That's us, so let's keep after it! NEVER give up.

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Ed Thorrens's avatar

Just remember:

Faith without WORKS, is dead!

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Leo's avatar

Best not underestimate the power of the spiritual, non-material focused pursuits.

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Special Ted's avatar

Spiritual is so much more important than material!

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P Flournoy's avatar

And God will say well done thou good and faithful servant

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Susan Seas's avatar

This is a good one for today. Even though most of this article is good news I feel disheartened and weary. So many more people and states to go to get people on the same page. Onward Christian Soldiers! PS I guess we tied for first comment. I cheated and read after šŸ˜‚

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Hahaha.

STAY STRONG!

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I feel the same. Weary and disheartened.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Faith over fear. Every day. In every circumstance. Let not your heart be troubled, Lisa, as the real battle is already won.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Love those verses.

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Ed Thorrens's avatar

The Word of God has power on its own, even enough to change our ways of thinking and acting!

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Sharing your comment .

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Oliver Closov's avatar

ā€œPuzzling skin side effects stymie advance of promising HIV vaccine.ā€

Death, strokes, Guillain-BarrƩ syndrome, turbo cancers, and infertility are just fine, but we absolutely CANNOT tolerate rashes. Shut it down.

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Gemma Star's avatar

Skin rashes too visible for all to see?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I think that's it.

It's a shame marker for the vaxxed.

I doubt they'll be heading in for another 'booster'.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Mark of the Beast again.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I'm still shocked at how the Churches went right on board with the whole scam.

Barely questioned the Vaxx Card requirement, despite the similarity to 'The Mark' as described in the scripture.

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Seeking Grace's avatar

@BFM not only that, anyone who spoke against the vax or didn’t want to take it was derided as being anti-Christian, uncharitable, and just plain ungodly. ā€œDon’t you CARE about others’ wellbeing???ā€ Grrrr.

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Peter Schott's avatar

I had several otherwise solid Christian friends tell me to just get the shots already - they'd proven effective and safe .. after 5-6 months. Ummm. I was in the "wait and see" camp, but that heavy push moved me into the "nope" camp.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Yes, that heavy push. No "push" required if situation really required the jab. And now we all (!) know the real story of all vaccines. Thank you, Turtles' authors.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes a lot of self righteous and smug ā€œwhat would Jesus do?ā€ types of comments šŸ™„

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Cafe Comments by Lauri Harris's avatar

They seemed to forget that Jesus didn’t go along with and blindly follow government or even religious leaders of his day. And Jesus didn’t go around giving people medications/vaccines.

So, when I was asked what would Jesus do, I answered: Jesus would pray and follow God’s direction. When I prayed, God told me not to take the jabs. Therefore, I am doing what Jesus would do.

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Leo's avatar

Good point: Jesus certainly did not go along to get along!

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Gemma Star's avatar

I know many who have prayed to know what Jesus would do and...surprise! ...it turned out that Jesus would do exactly what they wanted to do in the first place.

I've noticed this especially in the case/situation of an unplanned/unwanted pregnancy.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Well, Jesus would never have had an abortion, so there is that element to consider.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

And Jesus was the one who said "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's--which certainly is not a mandated injection--even if "Public Health" is in Caesar's purview.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Exactly. They usually don’t even have a clue about what Jesus would do, they’re trying to make a ā€œgotchaā€ point but it doesn’t work with anyone who knows what Jesus is really about.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Would Jesus get the Jab?

I'd say he'd be in the pureblood camp.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

To which one might respond, "My body is a temple of God". I care first for God, second for his other creatures." "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom"....I suspect that there are a great many other apposite verses one might have used. I was fortunate in never coming upon this situation.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Well that latter line could be used against someone claiming "gender affirming care" to be wrong, ungodly, deadly.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Not all churches. My church is mostly anti-vaxxers.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Robin, I've wondered about that. Do you have any tips about how to find a church of 'mostly anti-vaxxers'? (anti is even better than un!)

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Robin Greer's avatar

Ours was just organic. It started in May 2022. It's a small church with expository preaching. The pastor is a graduate from Masters (Meaning Jesus is Master) Seminary. You can check the Find a Church on their website but there's no guarantee that the graduate will be anti-vax. If you recall John MacArthur who head the seminary refused to shut down his church even though Newsome closed all churches by state order for years. MacArthur also refused the vax and the mask. The pastor of our church told people that he wasn't their parent, they were adults and they could make their own decisions but that he would not be doing any of it. I would simply call any pastor before you go and ask questions about doctrine and also COVID dogma. That interview of the pastor should tell you all you need to know. Also, smaller churches tend to be more closely knit.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Look up Rabbi Michoel Green. A moral giant of truth and integrity. He stood up to medical tyrants and wrote exemption letters for thousands.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Thank you for this thoughtful reply!

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Robin Greer's avatar

Freed thinkers. Freed from condemnation and slavery of sin and freed from slavery to propagandist ideas. Living in the Way and The Truth and The Life.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Surely it should be. But clearly it has not been.

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Peter Schott's avatar

A lot feel into the trap of "we have to keep our older members safe" without questioning anything at all. Masks? Sure. Shots? Too many yes's. Distancing? Yup. No singing? _sigh_ Wait - why are we losing members? Why does nobody want to join us? We're open again after (months/years).

My dad's been sad that their church has no real return of members after 2 years of "online only" and a s l o w return to semi-normal. (doesn't help that they're UMC to boot) I told him that their church (and others) told people for a couple of years that they didn't want them there. The people listened.

Contrast with churches during a real medical outbreak like the Plague - open, ministering to people, and right there in the midst trying to help.

I'm glad the church we're part of didn't buy into the "show your shot card to attend" camp, but they bought into the mask nonsense for a year and some before dropping that. I don't know if leadership can see that as the nonsense it was rather than thinking it had something to do with saving lives. But yeah - too many bought into it. I'm sad to think how many good people were harmed by the shots because they trusted the experts. :(

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Jay Horton's avatar

If you remember: Jesus used to hang with the lepers so, there you go!

Later Jay

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Kenpowoman's avatar

Well, He knew he wouldn't get the disease or would be able to heal Himself, so that's not really a good analogy... IMO.

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Jay Horton's avatar

I disagree and not really the point: Jesus ministered and brought healing and love to a shunned class. That's the point; just what the church should have been doing but many (maybe most) failed. The outcome of which is obvious as sited in the Peter Schott's Fathers church example above.

Later Jay

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Tio Nico's avatar

if Jesus coud (and obviously did) remain safe, along with His closest workers, as He minisered to any and all, [articulary the poor and oucases, is He not also capable of protecting OUR own selves , His servants, as we do IS work?

What guarantee did Stephen have as he stood up for the outcast? None. ANd he was martyred for his service... which "just happened" to provide a more than geopemtric grown to the church both in Jerusalem and the rest of the nown world.

If God is truly in conrol, why do WE wart about silly things like mug napies, shots in the arm, being "disliked" because we do/don't go along with some gummit mamdate.... WHO is our Lord?

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

We subscribe to a small-town Maine newspaper (we live 500 miles away)--some of the churches in their weekly announcement page are still suggesting masks.

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Robin Greer's avatar

šŸ™„

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Based Florida Man's avatar

And when the pot dispensaries, and booze stores, and fast food joints were allowed to be open, but not the Churches... did they not realize they were being scammed?

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

This. It was the easiest call all time.

But they had scales over their eyes

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Roger Beal's avatar

Perhaps Bishop Emmanuel should go on a world tour, and kick some spiritual butt in certain denominations' pulpits.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

My take is "Nice little 501c3 you've got there, pastor/presbytery/synod-----be a shame if....."

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Concerned mom's avatar

NOT ALL churches!!! Mine REFUSED the $$$$$ that was doled out to keep them CLOSED!!!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

So you KNOW there was money--I had 'heard' and suspected, but didn't really know.

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Jan's avatar

I know of at least one large church in VA that took "paycheck protection" money. Many in the congregation were aghast. It was in a university community where almost no one lost their job. Giving never suffered during the fear year.

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Concerned mom's avatar

Yeap! The same way there was $$$$$ for hospitals that admitted "covid sick" and more $$$ if the patient "needed intubation" ... so lots and lots of them did! :(

AND if they died of COVID.... well, them hospitals were raking in the dough like nobody's business!

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Leo's avatar

Based, why do you think that was the case? What happened to those clergy and members who bought the scam?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

It was a weird psychological time. So odd how so few church leaders questioned it.

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Tio Nico's avatar

despite the similarity to 'The Mark' as described in the scripture.

read those scripture verses again.... I posted on this below. Read that and reconsider.

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Tio Nico's avatar

NOT POSSIBLE t be the mark of the beast.

Read Jesus' own words as He introduces that Mark with his guys ip on the Mountain. Look up the greek word translated as "mark" whej Jesus dscribes it. Read about WHERE He says that mark" will be placed. hen turn over a few more verses and read howHe plainly declared that "all these things" (which include the mark of he beast) "will take place before THIS generation (the one on earth when He was speaking) "passes away".

An invisible shot in the ARM (not forehaed or right wrist/hand) is NOT the Mark He soke of, and further if it is given now it is waaaaay past "this generation" wo whom He was speaking.

Learn your bible. I is there for YOU. And through YOU to those around you

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I was speaking metaphorically. About the rashes now showing up on jabbees' skin And as it happens, I am in 35 Jeremiah today, reading from Genesis 1:1, reading the Pentateuch twice before going on to Joshua, and not skipping a single word of the pedigrees.

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Tio Nico's avatar

jabs and rashes, I get. Still NO connexion whatever wth the "Mark of he Beast" of which Jesus spoke. That was a very specific thing ied to a specific ime and place and for a specific purpose. the shots and resulatnt rashes have nought to do with it.

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Special Ted's avatar

We are in the Little Season. Rev. 6:11 and 20:3

Surprise!!!

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Tio Nico's avatar

the "little season"? Don't get it. This is the season where Saan is bound, cannot do as he wills but is "on a short chain" and unable to thwart God's Kingdom as it advances. It is in this LONG season where we, the Church, are to be about saturating the world, the nations, the whole earth, wigh the gospel of peace that many millions, even billions, will come into the Kingdom. Toward the end of this LONG season Satan will be released once more, for a short while, where he will go nuts and try and destroy as much as he can... but that time will be VERY short, and he will utterly fail.This Gospel WILL go out to the entire world before Jesus comes in the clouds and claims His own to come along and be with Him forever. Then that ol draggin scoundrel will get his final fling.... right smack dab into the middle of that lake of fire that will never cool off. Then he is done done DONE.

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Special Ted's avatar

Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

You wrote a beautiful explanation of my previous beliefs. But Jesus is not a liar, so how can we reconcile Matthew 10:23?..."But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come." KJV

This is the end of ALL the rabbit holes, friend.

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Tio Nico's avatar

not sure what rabbit hole you think I've gone down.....

It comes down to the meaning of "the return" of Jesus.

He came in the flesh by way of Mary the virgin mother. What should have been "his" people falsely accused Him and murdered Him, then stuffed Him into the grave.

so He came again, right outta that cleft in the rock. Is that the time you reference above?

He also came again IN JUDGEMENT upon those very people who killed Him. He came to utterly destroy every vestige of the Jewish system that put Him to death. "Vengeance is MINE says the Lord. I will repay." Is that the time you mention? He destroyed their land, their city, their temple which THEY had completely corrupted, their culture, their feasts, their dwelling place, their religion..... the desolation He predicted as He spoke to his Twelve up there on the Mount of Olives came to reality before "this present generation passes away", the same generation that killed Him, the Lord of Glory. To put it in terms or our own calendar system, that was before the end of the year 73 AD.

And He will yet come again to collect ALL of His own and invite us to come along with Him into the Heavens for the rest of eternity. Or is that the coming back you mean?

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Special Ted's avatar

Revelation 6:11..."And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled."

Revelation 20:3..."And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season."

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Fred's avatar

Brilliantly said!

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Robin Greer's avatar

And those rashes are not minor. I know of 3 people who have severe. full body rashes after getting boosters. Of course, pharmaceuticals to the rescue. We have a medication that will fix that problem that we created.

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Kathy's avatar

Lots of shingles cases from the jabs

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Truthseeker's avatar

And also from just the vaxxed shedding.. I take care of a baby… she was vaccinated for chicken pox… immediately following I developed shingles. There’s a connection.

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Michelle Dalsing's avatar

I thought the reason shingles on the rise is because of chicken pox vaxx and the fact adults are no longer re-exposed to chicken pox so immunity from when we orignally had chicken pox has waned. Everyone telling me to go get shingles vaxx but I am not interested. God gave me an immune system. Perhaps I will regret it (people share their horror stories) but I think I would regret vaxx more.

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Truthseeker's avatar

You are wise.

Trust in the Devine healer… not pharma

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Janet's avatar

That’s true. No more natural boosting by the circulating virus. Another side affect, actually, of a vaccine.

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Brenda Bergsma's avatar

There must be some connection....my husband got covid after (from?) the shingles shot. šŸ™„

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Roger Beal's avatar

Was the chemical composition of the shingles jab changed a few years ago? I had both of them about 15 years ago with zero noted negative reactions.

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MaryAnn's avatar

The first shingles jab was just one stab. The second one is two. The first was deemed ineffective. Such nonsense. šŸ™„

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Kenpowoman's avatar

That confirms what I'm seeing in my small circle of friends (mostly from church). People will poo poo the Vax as the reason, saying it's one of the age-related diseases, but that doesn't work for people in their early middle age.

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Robin Greer's avatar

I've seen that as well.

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Dena's avatar

Reminder- stay away from Shingles jab. Plenty of scare campaigns out there.

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Concerned mom's avatar

Reminder - stay away from ALL jabs, vaccines or unproven "treatments" such as "cancer treatments" which I believe have been the killers of most cancer patients....

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NoVA mom's avatar

I am unvaxxed - but when I got Cvd I broke out in hives due to heat or cold for about 6 months after I recovered. That poison they concocted causes lots of these problem. Then when people unfortunately choose (or feel forced) to jab themselves with it ….it creates a much worse situation. My friend developed hyperthyroidism post Cvd infection - was not vxd.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Even the teenagers in my neighborhood have become sickly. You can see it on their faces.

It was Evil to make children take that poison...and it was all for no benefit.

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Robin Greer's avatar

It was for profit...benefit to some, tragic for others.

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Fred's avatar

I think the ā€œbenefit,ā€ IF there was one, was 3 months of improved immunity. Of course, you were much more likely to die, but…

NHS data from early 2021 showed a lower infection rate but 8x higher death rate in the shot group. Scroll down to Figure 1:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8459929/

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Elaine Russky's avatar

How does anyone know there was an improvement in immunity? Some people have strong natural immunity and may have remained healthy for years, even without the shot. Vax enthusiasts say there's no link between the shots and disease or death, but the converse is true. There's no link between the shots and not getting covid.

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Fred's avatar

Infection rates were down (early on, before most of us had the clearly superior natural immunity) for a few months…still totally not worth it. The UK data is a good place to look because they didn’t use the 14d excuse, and their NHS records weren’t as manipulated as our VAERS data. IMO, of course.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

How does anyone know exactly what his natural immunity protects him against? Is it possible to be immune from a disease one has never encountered? Or is it assumed that his immune system must have been challenged before, without his knowledge, because when he knew he was exposed to an infective agent, he didn't succumb to it?

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Janet's avatar

I believe healthy people can mount an immune defense even if they have never had something. We are exposed to natural boosting through circulating viruses and bacteria and all forms of antigens we live with, around us and in being in contact with as we walk through life. That’s how it works. A high D level supports a strong immune system. It’s a magnificent complicated system we really know very little about.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I agree. I take D3 and others. The immune system is an amazing part of creation, one of those things that works well unless intentionally impaired by, uh, certain injectable fluids that the U.S. government squandered tax money on.

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Fred's avatar

I remain firmly on the side of risk >>>>>> benefit.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes definitely no net benefit.

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Leo's avatar

Wasn't it a huge benefit for big pharma?

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Deb S's avatar

Wow. How can ANYONE look at that second graph and say, ā€œyeah, this looks like something we need to force everyone to takeā€?? 😳

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CeeMcG's avatar

I have a friend whose two daughters had to be vaxxed for school here in San Diego. The younger one has had two menstrual periods per month, developed anemia, and now has a host of other health issues such as Reynaud’s syndrome and unexplained tumors. It breaks my heart.

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Concerned mom's avatar

Would have NEVER jabbed my kiddos for school.... I told them, if your sport requires it, you'll be dropping that sport.... UNfortunately, my friend had her daughter jabbed multiple times to keep her ice skating...

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

I know. It's sickening.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Given to increase the death rate...

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I had bleeding in menopause and still get headaches around jabbed people. I take extra supplements and shower and change clothes after.

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God Bless America's avatar

Me too… every time my sister-in-law was shot up and we visited, I would have bleeding and feel bad. 😬

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

It’s insulting that it’s shedding by design.

I use Xclear nasal spray when I’m around people. Extra olive leaf supplement , change clothes and shower. & I drink coconut water when I’m out, no more coffee, need the electrolytes.. They have no idea the extra precautions I take to be social.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

& the irony, remember when the unvaccinated were going to kill everyone yet the opposite is true.

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STH's avatar

Nobody was forced to get jabbed. They were forced to stand up for themselves and chose not to.

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Deb S's avatar

I dunno. For me, yes, that’s true. I refused and was prepared to walk away from my career. But what about the single mom of three who is a nurse and is worried about making her rent payment? She had to keep a roof over her children’s heads. And it’s not like anyone else was hiring during that time. To me, she sacrificed herself for her children, and I certainly cannot fault her for that decision. There are plenty of ways I can think of that people truly were forced. It was the only decision they could have made. And it infuriates me that they were put in that position.

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Gemma Star's avatar

I agree. A lot of people took the risk that ā€œit won’t happen to meā€œ if they took the jab. There was a family to feed.

This is all still playing out. In the coming years, we will see more illness and death — and orphans.

It’s a heartbreak.

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Deb S's avatar

Agreed. Absolutely heartbreaking. šŸ’”

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Elaine Russky's avatar

What's worse, an unemployed mother forced to take government assistance, or a mother who left orphans or became permanently disabled?

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Deb S's avatar

I get your point, and I don’t disagree. But at that time, a lot of people felt like the risks were small, and it enabled them to feed their children. I simply cannot fault them. I had the luxury of knowing I would be okay if I walked away from my job. I had the luxury of enough time in my day to question, research, dig, dig, dig. There were lots of people who had no such luxuries. They live day-to-day. They focus on putting one foot in front of the other. They use all their energy keeping their heads (and their loved ones’ heads) above water. I simply cannot judge them for making the decisions they made.

I most certainly DO, however, blame every single person who put them in that position: those who unleashed the monster, those who created the poison, those who promoted death (in the form of benevolent rescue). Most especially, I blame the assholes who stood in the way of real discussion, real debate, and real treatments. Those who mocked us, who denigrated us at every opportunity. Those who turned families and friends against each other. Those who stole our children’s childhoods. Those who forced our loved ones to die alone, feeling unloved. I reserve my rage for them. Not for the overworked, overwhelmed, overpowered, genuinely good people who did what they felt they had to do.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

No, I wouldn't judge them, either, because I've made mistakes in my life, even when I knew better. Most of the time they know they made the wrong choice -- and it was their choice, even though it was an extraordinarily difficult one to make, for everyone. At any rate, they don't need to be told the obvious, and do not to be ridiculed or criticized. It's enough to have to live with the deleterious effects of their decision. But they do need to admit it was a bad idea, and seek help. There are things they can do to possibly mitigate the harm. If they ignore the problem, they're not going to look for solutions that could really benefit them.

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Marice Nelson's avatar

Both the disease and the ā€œantidote ā€œ they created wreak havoc on complex systems in the body, systems they have woefully limited knowledge of. But beyond the $cience and their greed, are they true believers in some sort of death cult ?

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Fred's avatar

In some, to the extent that even wearing clothes is intolerable.

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ROKM's avatar

I wish substack had a "SAD" (sadly, pun intended) emoji or balck heart..... I would use it here.

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Robin Greer's avatar

I have the keyboard emoji's šŸ˜” which makes me happy 😃

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

It could've been soooo much worse

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Based Florida Man's avatar

"My face isn't drooping as much and my cardiologist says my myocarditis is getting better. Thankfully my 5 covid infections have been mild".

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Kelly's avatar

"Those infections would have been killed me had I not taken all 10 of those boosters!"

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Susan's avatar

I actually heard someone say that...to my face...if he hadn't taken the shots and the boosters he would be dead, wellllll dude, they just delayed your demise and made it 10x worse!

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RunningLogic's avatar

And how to explain all of those unvaxxed who didn’t get Covid or only had a mild case? ā€œOh they’re just lucky.ā€ And the people who got the vax and still got really sick and/or were hospitalized and/or died? ā€œOh they’re just unlucky.ā€ So what you’re telling me is… the effectiveness of this shot really comes down to… luck?? šŸ¤ØšŸ¤”

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Good point. Some who didn't take the shots weren't really the lucky type, in that they had other serious conditions, but still didn't get covid. Perhaps they were healthier because they avoided vaccines.

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Susan's avatar

Pretty much it, as you said! Damned if you do and damned if you don't aka, no matter what you say or try to tell them

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RunningLogic's avatar

It’s just magical thinking, they bend their thoughts to suit whatever they are told to believe šŸ˜• No matter that it makes no sense at all.

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Susan's avatar

They were sent a delusion and believed the lie, biblical prophecy in action, right folks?!?!?!?!!!!

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Leo's avatar

Yes. "magical thinking." Trending!

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

The year is 2045:

Aliens arrive to find homosapien has successfully eliminated the host in waging a tireless WAR AGAINST VIRUSES!

Theyre so brainwashed we'd have to convince them that through their actions they have eliminated all viruses on planet earth forever.

And deep down inside they think WE are the virus. So...

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

We are the virus

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Exactly. That's what I'm saying

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SadieJay's avatar

I just watched War of The Worlds with Tom Cruise. The aliens died because they couldn't survive on this planet because we had immunities against stuff and they did not. Or some such bullshit.

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

HA! But if I hadn't taken the vaxxes, it could have been worse!

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Jen's avatar

That's exactly what they sound like! It's so mind boggling

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My Favorite Things's avatar

You might like this poem:

It Might Have Been Worse

Sometimes I pause and sadly think

—Of the things that might have been,

Of the golden chances I let slip by,

—And which never returned again.

Think of the joys that might have been mine;

—The prizes I almost won,

The goals I missed by a mere hair's breadth;

—And the things I might have done.

It fills me with gloom when I ponder thus,

—Till I look on the other side,

How I might have been completely engulfed

—By misfortune's surging tide.

The unknown dangers lurking about,

—Which I passed safely through

The evils and sorrows that I've been spared

—Pass plainly now in review.

So when I am downcast and feeling sad,

—I repeat over and over again,

Things are far from being as bad

—As they easily might have been.

by G. J. Russell

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

That is beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Skin, the largest organ of the human body. It just so happens it's the organ that everybody can readily see.

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Chevrus's avatar

Look! I spy a Limited Hangout Bird just over yonder…..let’s put down our own thoughts and investigate….

Just as I thought….it has nested in the Nothing to See Here bush and is in a state of rest….

Phew! Crisis averted ….

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Fred's avatar

The induced autoimmunity underlying the rashes is at the core, and IMHO, cannot be overcome. The LNP problem of decades has not, I repeat not, been fixed, ā€˜Nobel prize’ notwithstanding.

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Jason A Clark's avatar

Polls don't mean much if you rig the election in the middle of the night. Just saying...

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FourWinds's avatar

Yep. Biden will win not because he won, but because things are rigged. Until a state demands ballots be hand recounted, even if it takes a month, nothing will ever change. No one has put a new voting system in place and gotten rid of the rigged dominion voting machines. No one has even raised holy heck about it. Why hasn't a single republican governor or senator or someone said we will not use these machines unless the hand count COMPLETELY matches the machine counts?

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Copernicus's avatar

No elected official has made a go of it because they too are benefited by the machines.

Now there are individual elected officials who’ve tried! We had a brave state rep who authored a bill last session - would have gotten rid of all our machines and returned to hand counted paper ballots. The election committee chair refused to give the bill a hearing. Our state Secretary of State refused to support the bill despite having campaigned on exactly those provisions. The bill died.

Patriots are rising up - we just need more of us at the local level becoming involved.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I did notice a printout (when I voted in the primary last week) of the candidates I’d selected, which was new to me. It seemed like a good addition.

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Peter Schott's avatar

But - does the printout you got match the vote that was actually recorded? That's the bigger question. Paper, one day, in-person ... no machines. Pull in a bunch of people to hand-count with observers from all parties and be done.

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Copernicus's avatar

Bingo.

I was coming here to say the same.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes I wondered that too but before this I had zero indication that the buttons I’d pressed translated to the same people if voted for.

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Copernicus's avatar

But, the computer can be made to print what you selected. The printout is no guarantee that the vote was actually COUNTED as you cast it. Unfortunately.

I had this exact conversation with one of the state rep candidates at the polls Tuesday. He was adamant that the machines are not compromised. I wanted to say, oh, you’ve seen the inner workings and know how they work?

Not even the county clerks are allowed to access the machine codes, due to intellectual property clauses in the contracts. šŸ˜”šŸ˜‘

No Transparency, No Trust

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RunningLogic's avatar

No I agree with you but wondered if this might be a step in the right direction at least. Before this I had no confirmation that the buttons I’d pressed were recorded as the correct people. We definitely need more than this, I’d like a copy of that paper actually, for one thing. You’re right though, we do need better safeguards.

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YYR's avatar

Georgia?

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RunningLogic's avatar

No, Indiana.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I don't believe Biden will be the Democrat candidate. They have another one waiting to step in.

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Michelle Dalsing's avatar

I agree with your comment. Narrative shift- they know who is coming to replace him. Hopefully, not Newsom, the Trudeau of America.

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Lynn46's avatar

No one wants Gruesome esp us native Californians. Most of us believe the recall was rigged.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Yes! The new candidate will point out everything the late Joe Biden did wrong.

"Never Newsome," I always say.

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God Bless America's avatar

Big Mike? 🤢🤢🤮

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Please don't say that again. Or think it. In fact, go wash your keyboard.

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God Bless America's avatar

Yes, ma’am… Believe me, every time I see an article or such about Obummerā€˜s ā€œwife,ā€ I want to pour bleach all over my computer. It just makes me feel icky… 😬

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CarO Lyn's avatar

I’ve often wished Elon should buy Dominion and clean it up!

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God Bless America's avatar

Interesting idea šŸ’”šŸ¤”

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FourWinds's avatar

Honestly, for me, there is something about him I don't trust. Yes, he has done good things, like taking over Twitter. But the conspiracy theorist part of my brain, which works overtime, worries. Who is to say the new Twitter isn't being used to collect information on people who would fight back? Him wanting chips in every human brain and wanting satellites covering every square inch of the planet makes me nervous. The first is just wrong and the second is a surveillance state. I just don't trust him.

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Fla Mom's avatar

He'd have let me back on Twitter/X, if that were the purpose, but I remain suspended, through one appeal under the last group and one appeal under Elon. My May 2021 tweet was polite, agreeable to the person to whom I was responding, expressed my professional medical knowledge and opinion, and was, even more clearly now, correct. Yet here I am, still suspended.

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Peace's avatar

Why hasn't Trump used his influence to do something about the election process?

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Dena's avatar

It might be because he dared question the rigged outcome & as a result is facing multiple felony counts & possible prison. Meanwhile, he’s a prisoner in the NY courtroom.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Maybe because he doesn’t have enough influence among those who are most in control of it? šŸ˜•

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Fla Mom's avatar

Revealing to everyone what a fraud it has been, on both sides (parties) isn't enough? It's up to us, the citizens, do actually do something about what we now know. We live in a republic, not a monarchy; he's not King, we are, under The King of Kings.

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Marice Nelson's avatar

I think his loss will be so lopsided that it can’t be covered up. His administration has never seen a war it doesn’t like, similarly to Obama and Hillary, the economy for most Americans is in the crapper, all of the lockdowns, the propaganda, the censorship, citizens’ failing health due to covid and covid antidote, not to mention his unfitness for office due to his mental decline is going to finish him off and good riddance-and I usually vote for democrats but not anymore

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FourWinds's avatar

I sure hope you are right. It's not the American voters I don't trust, it's the corrupt system that no one has tried to fix in 4 years. To me, this smells of corruption on both sides. I think it's all smoke and mirrors, but I'm also 100% conspiracy theorist.

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WP William's avatar

costs too much and takes too long and then lawsuits and intimidation and being labelled a denier; send the $$$ to Taiwan, Iran, wherever instead

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FourWinds's avatar

Very likely.

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Paige Green's avatar

Agreed, but I do like the bills Governor Kemp in Georgia signed. Many will be put in place in the following months, with the exception of one that begins in July:

All absentee ballots must be counted by the close of polls on Election Day.

Unless the corrupt find a way to add more by 8 pm, there shouldn’t be a way to dump thousands of ballots at 3 am.

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FourWinds's avatar

I am not familiar with this so I will look it up. Thanks!

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JW's avatar

Early voting in several states starts in September. What could possibly go wrong with that?

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WP William's avatar

Also how MANY MORE Repukelickans are going to do a short notice resignation from Congress to throw Trump's ballots to Dems to see if an Insurrectionist Felon's votes are eligible to count and certify??? Ken Buck$ in CD 4 Colorainbow and others are ready to flip at last minute due to hate or fear...Security State can call their loyalty due whenever wanted. This is likely going to get VIOLENT as Dems are not planning to leave NO Matter What.. Joe Biden and crew WANT to instigate and preside over a post-election bloodbath if need be.

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Not Me's avatar

First thing Biden did as president was have a 10 Ft concrete wall built around the White House…ever wonder why?

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WP William's avatar

Trump Team better be talking to ALL Military, Natl Guard, Police to secure their support once the Commies decide to try to turn the military loose on us all and kill our true patriot leaders

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Fred's avatar

CA already has folks lined up to print ballots and/or help folks mark their choices, you know, for democracy. People are signing up in droves to ā€˜help,’ just like 2020.

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YYR's avatar

Hey, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Then beat 'em.

Republicans should be signing up to "help" voters too!

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Well, maybe some honest people will notice the fraud early on, and people will be Imprisoned.

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Copernicus's avatar

I now refuse to answer all political polls.

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Fla Mom's avatar

If they're real, professional, polls, you can always answer them incorrectly, lol - confusion to the enemy! I may have been polled professionally once, though I thought it was a push poll, and told them so. How do you get polled so often?

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Copernicus's avatar

Well, I typically don’t.

This last primary election one of the candidates for governor was sending a lot. I never answered.

One candidate for US rep sent a text identifying himself as a true conservative and extolling his plan to ā€œcontinue the good work of my friend x [the retiring incumbent].ā€ I replied saying that x is a RINO and that anyone who considered his work good was not a true conservative.

A few days later I got another text from the campaign - exact same verbiage BUT WITHOUT the reference to x. 🤣

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Fla Mom's avatar

Oh, maybe they're just fundraising texts and emails, then? If you respond to those, you'll increase the number you get by a huge factor.

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Copernicus's avatar

There was no request for funds.

One was asking if the election was held today, which [office] candidate would I vote for.

Others were just informing of candidates and their alleged conservatism.

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Hello300's avatar

Babylon Bee headline this morning is:

Latest Polls Show Biden Will Need Twice As Many Fake Ballots To Win Election This Year!ā€

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AB's avatar

It just tells them how hard they will have to rig. It’ll look real funny in November though, I suspect. Unless they find a new way

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Jason A Clark's avatar

That's what I was thinking too. Trump had a rally in New Jersey with 100,000...but he'll lose that state by double digits. People will just accept that. But will they accept it if he loses like that in some of the swing states?

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Bandit's avatar

Does it matter? They'll prosecute (persecute) anyone that stands up and tries to do anything about it.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

NJ the home of rigged elections and ballot harvesting.

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Jay Horton's avatar

Yes, there was a news story on this morning regarding some state up north that is doubling down on drop boxes.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/wisconsin-supreme-court-considers-expanding-absentee-ballot-drop-110155573

How did Wisconsin get so loonie? There are some really great people there.

Later Jay

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LMWC's avatar

Because the Leftists were active before we realized what was happening. They used the cities and college campuses to promote their agenda, meanwhile moving progressives into key city and suburb government spots. 2020 was a national steal, 2022 was the push, now that mail in was being widely used to reverse state legislatures and courts which had traditionally been conservative to leftist. Now these legislatures are making progressive laws as fast as they can spit them out and the courts are upholding all manner of communist democrats.

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Jay Horton's avatar

It does seem like their ilk are among us and working feverishly to make things so bad. It's like the pursuit of Bizarro World.

Later Jay

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Fla Mom's avatar

LMWC, this, and because our side contracted out our civic duties instead of working to fulfill them, meaning they either didn't get done or were taken over from those on 'our own side.'

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Bandit's avatar

And they're going to do just that.

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TriTorch's avatar

Food for thought regarding South Carolina and the 2SLGBTQQIPAA+ Descent Into Hell. None of it is organic. According to an independent researcher Michele Obama's school lunch program was loaded with the Atrazine Herbicide, which is known to turn male frogs to female. And no, this isn't some Alex Jones wacko conspiracy theory:

https://tritorch.com/degradation/ObamaSchoolLunchesSpikedWithAtrizineHerbicideToTurnBoysIntoGirlsFrogsMay2024.mp4 [50 seconds]

This independent researcher took his daughter's school lunches and had them tested for anything off, turns out Atrazine was all over it:

https://tritorch.com/degradation/ObamaSchoolLunchesSpikedWithAtrizineHerbicideToTurnBoysIntoGirlsMay2024.mp4 [1:24mins]

So the transgender operation has been both a biological and psychological full frontal assault on the next generation. Here is the PSYOP on full display, with its disastrous effects woven through them:

https://bitchute.com/video/pB2WAeELDVtc 22:28mins]

There is a history of this. Here is a 60 minutes segment on the The Massachusetts School for the Feeble-Minded feeding their children radioactive oatmeal:

https://tritorch.com/Feebleminded.mp4 [13:33mins]

Boris Johnson, the post COVID world needs to be more feminine:

https://tritorch.com/degradation/ObamaSchoolLunchesSpikedWithAtrizineHerbicideBorisJohnsonPostCOVIDWorldNeedsToBeMoreFeminineJune2021.pdf [pdf]

So when you study the next generation when you're out and about and interacting with them, just know that their bodies are filled with mercury, aluminium, and only the devil knows what else from their mass injections, their food is highly addictive sugar and chemical laden, and depending on where they got it from, is designed to change their gender, and their minds are mush from Tik Tok, social media, CRT and common core education. It may be wise to let pathos replace scorn.

https://tritorch.com/degradation/CDCImmunizationSchedule1986Vs2024.jpg [image]

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

You know, Friday, taking my hoe out of the shed, I was pondering the possibility that Mr. Blubber-Breasted Gates, with his comment about "now, if we do a really good job with vaccines we can lower the population" , and having pressure-injected African women with a protection against which? of many African endemic diseases, which injection just happened to result in sterility (in a culture in which the worth of each woman rests upon her fecundity) and, I having learned ~2017 of the dramatically lowered testosterone levels in men of today, well then, might not our philanthropist have arranged the inclusion, in childhood vaxxes since, say, 1990, of some compound which lessens testosterone production in pubescent males, such that they do not feel like boys? My mind takes this fancy further, into little children. No doubt entirely too much whimsy here.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Billy boy should be incarcerated for treason ,sedition, unregistered foreign agent and all his assets confiscated. He is a Transnational.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

He is also a murderer! He murdered and maimed countless children in Africa and India with his bogus vaccines!

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rolandttg's avatar

I finally gave up and started taking testosterone shots a year ago. Noticeable increase in strength at the gym. Can now do a full set of 15 reps with 75 pound dumbbells. This is more than I could ever have done before, and I'm 71. It is maniacal what the cabal / KM has done and is still doing to adulterate everything we ingest or touch.

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Monterey's avatar

Any undersirable side effects that come with that?

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Roger Beal's avatar

One indirect side effect on older muscle-builders can be bone fractures. The cause? Presses and lifts that the improved muscles can handle, but the aging skeleton cannot. I have a poorly-healed fractured collarbone, the result NOT of testosterone shots but of starting freeweight training at age 45 - an age when muscles can still grow stronger but bones no longer can.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Is that a prescribed med?

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CarO Lyn's avatar

Does it help with cognition? My husband @ 69 wants to continue to work but I see signs of him struggling slightly with certain tasks. I’ve hinted at testosterone but he’s not picking up on it so far.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Testosterone is a life-changer. Yes, it will.

There's a very amusing but poignant episode of "King of the Hill". . .

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

I’m not so sure anymore. Might be time to man up, and start eliminating the eliminators.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Alan -

You might be the only person on more list than me.

I mean I think they've started consolidating the list into a master list.

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SadieJay's avatar

I think that as well, when I chose to write what I write. I refuse to self-censor. Eff 'em all.

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Roger Beal's avatar

That's the spirit shown by the early disciples - the ones herded into arenas by bloodthirsty Romans. Thanks to them, the creeds of Christianity survived right through today.

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SadieJay's avatar

I know that this outer shell is just that. There is way more to me than just what you may see or hear when you 'look' at me. I remember seeing the Roman Coliseum and what an impression it made on me. Barbaric things took place and the lengths they went to, to eradicate Christianity. Our struggles may not be of bonds that are easily seen, but are just as nefarious and evil and barbaric. But this! Amazing Grace sung in that same coliseum by Il Divo. It gives me chills. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYMLMj-SibU

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Yes, whenever I hesitate to speak my mind here, for just that reason, I remember that that is just what "they" want. And my Lord has said, "If you deny me before men, I will deny you before my Father"......so, I have to speak. Out.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Except they were disarmed. I’m not.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

You're a warrior!

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

It would be a proud moment for me,to be on a master list of people to fear.

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Special Ted's avatar

I can tell you how to get a personal visit. I was posting "buzzwords" and "conditional threats" on Gab.com (my only social media at the time). I met some agents who informed me of my rights, haha. They don't fear me, but its nice to know that I'm on all their lists. It's all detailed on my Gab profile, my account name is Ted Amberson.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

They better send their best. I have no intention of being touched by these fuckers unless I’m dead.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Well, soy will increase estrogen and soy is everywhere. Additionally, fat itself produces estrogen in the body. So. Don't need a testosterone-lowering anything, just modern diet and lack of exercise.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Malwarebytes says, "Niche-Canada cannot provide a secure connection".

I guess Turdeau, the poster boy for GMO soy, is testing out Bill C-11 already.

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

gracias tritorch for the information and links.

i came across the researcher who a few years ago noted the steady decline of sperm counts and blamed it on household chemicals, at the time. intereresting stuff and added to my resource list.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Wow, well our kids were in school from around ~2000, graduated in '12 and '13. We didn't give them an 'allowance' but gave them lunch money each week, that they could keep if they made their lunches at home. The vast majority of the time, they made their lunch at home, unless there was something special on the menu. Who knew we were protecting them from being poisoned!?

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Julie Ann B's avatar

You were ahead of the times!

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walk2write's avatar

I remember back in the day when planners of the school lunch program thought that soy burgers were just the thing to replace beef, ostensibly to bring down the cost during Jimmy Carter's disastrous reign, but who knows? Soy boys will (eventually not) be boys.

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rolandttg's avatar

Read any cancer book, and you will learn soy is another "health food " ie. margarine , seed oils, hoax. And that does not even include the fact over 90 % of soy production in the US is GMO

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

And heavily sprayed with glyphosate.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Do you know, is it the type of soy? Or how it’s prepared or the foods it’s combined with? Because the Japanese eat a lot of soy and they are far healthier than we are overall. It seems like a lot of our soy foods are processed fake meat kinds.

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

part of the japanese ingestion of soy is to ferment it first.

so, not that which is creating physically emasculated men, however, the fermenting of the soy bean — nato is fermented soy beans — is actually a health food and now being used in isolation from a food in gringo america as a medicine.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Correct - thank you for stating that so clearly.

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Leo's avatar

Agree. Organic Miso.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes that is what I thought I’d read, thank you for clarifying that point.

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Paula's avatar

But the Japanese would not rank among anyone's list of..."manly" men. There was a South Park episode to that effect.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I don’t know. They seem a lot more masculine than a lot of our are right now šŸ˜•

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CarO Lyn's avatar

Soy has isoflavones, a type of phytoestrogen that can act like estrogen in the body. 21 years ago my oncologist warned me to stay away from soy (I had estrogen + bc).

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes I’ve read that as well. That alone doesn’t explain why the Japanese have a lower cancer rate than we do despite eating more soy.

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rolandttg's avatar

I am not home now with our cancer books, so I don't recall, other than all of the cancer books say the same thing. Soy is not good for you.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I guess I just was wondering how that squares with the low cancer rate among the Japanese. I do believe I remember reading that the form of soy makes a difference.

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

what i read is that the fermenting is what 'cures' the soy of its unhealthy properties. the japanese, historically from my japanese wife, did not eat soy unless fermented.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes I believe I’ve read something like that as well. I think the processed soy used to imitate meat is probably a concern whereas the traditional Japanese forms of soy are not.

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Leo's avatar

Also, soy is high in estrogen which promotes many cancers.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

So BHO and Michael Obama are still trying to destroy civilization with their trans agenda. Pure evil!

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rolandttg's avatar

Michael ( Lavaughn Robinson). Let's stop letting them control the language.

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Chevrus's avatar

To be fair BigMike is really the perfect mascot for that sort of thing.

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TriTorch's avatar

Ain't that the truth

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

Unbelievable!! My heart bleeds for the future 😭

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Politico Phil's avatar

That pretty much sums it up TriTorch.

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Tom's avatar

"Russia’s invasion marked the first of Cold War II."

The US backing of a coup in Ukraine marked the first of Cold War II.

There; fixed it.

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Kathy's avatar

It goes back even a little further than that. When the Berlin wall came down, Russia agreed to withdraw 450,000 troops from Germany if the US promised it would not move NATO 1 inch to the east, or add any countries. NATO has moved 1000 miles to the east and added 14 countries. Not making Russia all good here, but it takes two sides to play the game.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Actually Russia has the patience of Job.

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Kathy's avatar

You are right. And it’s important to understand that their country was invaded three times through Ukraine, and that and World War II won out of every seven Russians was killed.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Ol' Ben Double N likes to argue that fact; poor boy's in denial of history.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Backup of a coup? No, it was full on installation of our ( nuland et al) choice in leaders, which turned out to not be what they actually wanted. Everything that’s happened to Ukraine, all the dead,the bio labs, the whole ball of wax was determined by the cia with dc approval. The sooner we overthrow this current regime,the safer the world becomes for everyone.

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Tom's avatar

We broke it, we bought it . . .

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

It’s not hard to read evil clowns. Their lips move. When they say, ā€œminor incursion,ā€ they mean ā€œglobal armed conflict.ā€ When they say, ā€œrules-based order between liberty and autocracy,ā€ they mean ā€œthey’ll lie and cheat; we’ll obfuscate and be sneaky.ā€ The rules can’t possibly be otherwise. Only in politics does anyone say, ā€œLet’s pretend autocrats will play nice.ā€

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Roger Beal's avatar

Nudelman. Not Nuland. Speaking of "not letting them control the language" ....

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Could not remember the Zionist pigs name.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Khazarian mafia.

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rolandttg's avatar

Tucker Carlson did a must see interview May 10th (paywalled) with Molson Hart about his experience as a small businessman selling on Amazon. I already knew Amazon forbids anyone who sells on their site from selling their products for less elsewhere. Molson demonstrated It must be algorithms that trackieveryone, because he showed his box removed in only 15 minutes after raising his prices. I did not know they also forbid them from setting their own (too high) prices. Amazon is a monopoly (Tucker's words) , and everyone who buys from them is supporting that monopoly, and their tyranny. A few facts from the interview if you do not subscribe to TCN. :

- He has been forced to raise prices to $17 as Amazon has increased its fees.

- Of that $17, Amazon takes $10.

- He has to pay ALL of his expenses out of the remaining $7.

- He is left with ~$3 in profit

- Amazon will remove the "buy box' if you cross them ie. sell for less elsewhere, raise your prices without their approval, say mean things about them

_- This means people go elsewhere because there is no way to buy your product on Amazon without a Buy Box.

- Of the top 100 sellers, 52 are Chinese companies,

- This does not include all of the other vendors who source their products from China.

- Molson mentions Public Square as an alternative site . Think he says they now have over 70 K vendors. I have used them successfully.

Me again. When you buy from Amazon, you are supporting the cabal, the globalists, the KM , Blackrock (ROCK? who do you think that stands for?). ~70 % of Americans have Amazon Prime. Sick. Think about any company that does not have that type of backing going from being an internet book seller only, losing money For ~15 Years Straight ,while seeing their stock price rise to the moon at the same time. Impossible ? Sure it is. Amazon was always about eliminating all competition on the internet retail space, now over 50 % controiled by Amazon.

Shake and bake and every single person who patronizes Amazon is participating in the enslavement of humanity. Shopping Amazon is lazy and convenient. Full stop. Harsh.? It is what it is. If you want your country , and the world back, it starts with each of us. "What can I do ? I'm just one person, said 7 billion people. "

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

A few years ago I took the plunge and cancelled my Prime membership. I was so proud of myself. But then…it sneaked back in, during pregnancies and post partum when I often couldn’t leave the house to shop.

But I tried something new last year - during June I peacefully protested Pride month by completely abstaining from Walmart (which normally gets the bulk of my grocery and household $$). I chose Walmart because I already don’t really shop at Target but the Walmart algorithms would likely note a month’s abstention on my part. It was great! During that month, I gained practice at finding deals and my favorite items at other stores. It did cost more (I try to buy organic/natural) but I did it!

You’ve given me the idea to expand my June peaceful protest to include Amazon too! It’s a great way to break bad habits!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Maybe a mass temporary boycott is a more practical idea. Or at least try to get things elsewhere as much as possible.

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Michelle's avatar

I noticed my local Walmart had a small PRIDE display today. Small, but in a highly visible area next to the always unattended jewelry counter. I may try to boycott them for June. It will be a challenge, but I bet I can manage for a month.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes I did that at Target last year and realized I mostly didn’t miss/need to go there anymore. I’ve been back only once since last June for a small purchase that I didn’t have time to get elsewhere. I used to go once or twice a month and spent quite a bit. I think a month is doable and then you can reassess. They would probably notice in their profits if enough of us did it at once.

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Michelle's avatar

I'd stopped going to Target several years ago when they introduced their "anything goes" bathroom policy. But after a year or so, I ventured back in there once in a while. After their PRIDE fiasco last year, I recommitted myself to the boycott and haven't been back since... I agree, it doesn't affect them when only a few boycott, but if we boycott together, even for the same short time, I think it can send a message.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I know a lot of people boycotted then but I didn’t feel affected by it since it never seemed to be an issue in my local stores. It seemed like more of a pr thing than a real risk of running into that situation. The pride displays last year along with the targeting of children with the themed T-shirts and special swimwear were just the last straw though. Put me off going into there for good, pretty much.

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

I felt like ā€œI can do this for a monthā€ and it helped me shift some of my buying away from them more permanently. I buy from Azure Standard for some bulk items like flour, oils and grains. I do still buy from Walmart but the June peaceful protest helps me re-align!

Let’s pass it on - it would be fun to see some of the major retailers have a serious dip in sales specifically during June 😁

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes I try to reduce my purchases there and shift them elsewhere when possible. Sometimes it’s the only good option though. I guess we should do what we can and not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

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Michelle's avatar

I've never heard of Azure Standard. I'm going to have to look that up.

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

I highly recommend it! It’s a bit unusual in that you buy monthly and pick up your order at a local ā€œdropā€ but I started small with a few items I knew I’d use and I think I could pretty much replace Walmart with it, aside from produce, dairy and meats which I like to buy from local farms. Lots of organic options and if you buy more (bulk) you can save lots.

https://www.azurestandard.com/

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

Yes, I think for many of us with little kids, maybe more rural, fewer shopping options, budgetary restrictions, temporary is a good launch pointšŸ‘

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RunningLogic's avatar

It can be very tough to do without completely when you don’t have a lot of other options! So yes, do what you can!

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Susan Seas's avatar

Not to mention, has put every mom and Pop business out of business. Even my husband will now agree to pay more to not shop at Amazon even though I have always hated them and rarely shop there! Unfortunately, sometime is the only place you can get some thing. Another part of their master plan well you don’t even have to leave your house because there are no stores. Don’t worry, you can get it all delivered by Amazon. 😔

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rolandttg's avatar

I hear you. I sometimes spend an inordinate amount of time trying to find things elsewhere . When all else fails, ask yourself this: Do you need it, or do you just want it? I think you will find, as I do , that most things you probably just want. For the record, we Never shop at Amazon for anything. If necessary, we do without.

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Susan Seas's avatar

Yes! I seriously mean RARELY! My husband needed to find a part for our camper. We could only find it on the A!! We exhausted all avenues. Found many websites but they only sold through A 😔 The word is A has had cut bacsk. We have shut down so many woke stores (although the possibility that they are being shut down by A is not lost on me) we can do it to the almighty Amazon!!

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Fred's avatar

Unusual auto parts; only on Amazon. 😣

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes unfortunately I have had to buy homeschool workbooks and such on Amazon because local stores simply have a limited selection especially for older kids šŸ˜•

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Judy's avatar

I bought most of my curriculum from these two sites. www.christianbook.com

www.rainbowresource.com

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you! I don’t generally buy an entire curriculum but will check those out.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I will check those out, thanks. But not looking for used books actually. It’s hard to find everything in one place and it’s already very time consuming to decide on and find the materials I want.

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YYR's avatar

Amazon is often not cheapest. You pay for convenience.

Amazon is not a monopoly. They may have monopoly power, I don't have the numbers, but there's a difference. Walmart.com is a similar marketplace, don't know their seller policies. Public square, Etsy, buying direct from sellers, brick and mortar, and I recall Mike Lindell starting up a marketplace. There are options.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

As much as I dislike Walmart, I WILL shop their online presence just because it ISN'T Amazon. Oh and btw it seems that all my friends that are heavy into Amazon, esp prime, were jab-takers

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Michelle's avatar

Etsy isn’t a great option either. It used to be all handmade, small operations. Now they allow mass produced crap from China. They also have high fees, leaving small sellers with minimal profit.

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Martin's avatar

I stopped using Amazon a long time ago. Only maybe once a year do I buy from them and that’s only because I buy a lot of things for the business that I work for. Almost always I can find what I need from eBay or Home Depot or Walmart or any number of places and if it’s not the same price it’s usually less. Very infrequently have I ever had to pay more for something that was on Amazon. I remember several years ago they had a news release saying that they weren’t trying to be the cheapest anymore and it makes sense because why should they ? they got people hooked on an easy to shop site and most people don’t even think about it..

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Brenda's avatar

Public Square is where we need to our business. Tucker’s interview was eye opening.

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Katherine's avatar

Amazon is an evil business model, imho. Start digging. Everywhere you look it's brutal and disturbing one you grasp the reality.

Employees. Taxation. Shipping. Small Businesses.

People need to get smarter and stop building their own cages!

Shop local. Shop independent. Shop Ebay, (although it has fallen very low, compared to the original,) Shop elsewhere on line.

This Corporation is one piece of the "darkness coming for us," imho.

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Fred's avatar

Big fan of Etsy. I now have a lifetime supply of kitchen scrubbies, because I want to support my favorite vendors (that I hope are legit).

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Fred's avatar

Lis2Ewe has terrific ā€œgatheringā€ aprons! Tell them Nancy sent you; she sometimes includes a free gift.

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Padrig's avatar

I remember avoiding the amazon stock because it was insanely priced and there was no profit. If I remember correctly, the company became profitable when they got a government contract for server space. Then they took the first opportunity afforded to them to stifle speech in the digital realm by shutting down Parlor. There were probably hundreds more independent websites that got the same treatment.

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YYR's avatar

Padrig, Amazon probably had to stifle speech to keep the enormous gubmint contracts it depends on. Given the investments, losing those contracts would be catastrophic to Amazon. Uncle Sam is Bezos's dominatrix. And there is no safe word!

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Michelle's avatar

There is now a lot of drop shipping going on on eBay. I’ve bought from eBay specifically to avoid Amazon, only to have the item shipped directly from Amazon to me. Sellers don’t have the item, then order from Amazon or Costco when you order, and have it shipped directly to you. Really aggravating when you are trying to avoid a company...

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MnmMom's avatar

Public Square is getting better and better all the time. More and more options and a bit of a learning curve on how to search for things. But worth the effort. My daughters and I took a Baby Resistry Amazon and searched for the same kind of items in public square. We were able to find more than ample options that matched or came very close to the registry wish list. We paid a little more on shipping and had to wait a few more days for arrival but had an amazing gift to give and felt wonderful on many level to be able to give it. I did the same thing w a wedding registry and found a nice item they had request was also available at the local ace hardware for LESS! It takes a wee bit more effort and not waiting u til the last minute for things - But very doable! And you don’t feed the Amazon monster!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good to know!

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

I sold on Amazon for 9 years. In the beginning, it was great. Then, around 2012-13, boy did things change to their favor. Stopped selling there. Not worth their bs.

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AB's avatar

This is a big concern of mine too. Thanks for posting! I have noticed the quality and selection of products decreasing on Amazon. You used to be able to get the original as well as the knock off, which is less and less so (tennis and other sports apparel come to mind but I’m sure there is more). After 10 or so Chinese products, the list repeats itself. Nothing new comes up. I certainly am weary and am looking elsewhere a lot more than I used to. I’m sure we are not the only ones.

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Laura Fisher's avatar

We cancelled our prime membership. You only get free shipping for $35+ so it really makes you think about if you really need it or not. I don’t think Amazon is the best price anymore and the stuff is CCC(cheap China crap)

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KBB's avatar

On those rare occasions when I really truly need something that is only available on Amazon and it costs less than $35, I take them up on their perpetual free 30-day Prime trial to get free shipping on that essential item. I just put a post-it note on my computer monitor to remind me to cancel before the end of the trial period. Works like a champ. If you can't avoid them, at least take advantage of them.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Same question as CeeMcG. -?

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CeeMcG's avatar

Can you do the 30-day trial more than once? They don’t catch on?

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Then I’m sure you’ll buy elsewhere. That’s how capitalism works. At my age, I no longer enjoy driving around to 5 different hardware stores or drugstores looking for what I need. Amazon delivers it the next day. And I discovered through all the boycotts I participated in over the past 50 years, you find the corporate ties everywhere. And with the exception of an issue that causes almost universal revulsion, like the Bud Lite fiasco, you’ll never get enough people to care anyway. Plus the company or product you’re trying to help will usually just cave; like Idaho potato growers or Chic-fil-A.

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Fla Mom's avatar

James Lindsay told a story in one of his talks about watching a guy in an airport restaurant say he didn't want a Bud Lite, so he got a different brand, that James knew to be owned by the same parent company. Still, I think the Bud Lite boycott was effective and contributed to having tptb realize ithe agenda couldn't be quite so much "in your face."

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John infinity N's's avatar

I agree, I've been trying to boycott Disney and Target for obvious reasons but when the wife, kids, and grandkids all like Disney stuff and shop at Target, its a pointless boycott.

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YYR's avatar

Yeah, it's like shopping on Temu or AliExpress nowadays.

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Mary H.'s avatar

You can listen to this & many of Tuckers interviews on Apple Podcasts for free :

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-tucker-carlson-podcast/id1719657632?i=1000655224920

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Lynn46's avatar

I've been able to find many after a few days on Rumble. Have Tucker on my favorites list along with dozens of other great Patriots.

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Kathy's avatar

You are right. I am guilty. Thank you for letting us know about Public Square

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KBB's avatar

Ever wonder where the useful idiots on college campuses are getting their keffiyahs and "Palestine flags"? Including free overnight shipping for Prime members! Amazon is deeply evil. So glad to learn from Tucker about Public Square. I'll be checking them out!

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Carlos's avatar

I feel your pain and frustration, we feel the same way and keep trying to get our own children to understand that mostly they are the ones that are going to suffer the most…..but for them if it’s not one click away it’s not worth it.

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Penny North's avatar

Good information.

In my opinion, it is the companies doing business through Amazon supporting Amazon. Put the burden of making a change on them also. I’d prefer a Made in America only option on all selling sites.

I asked a patient one time (from Pakistan) what was one thing he noticed about Americans. His answer, ā€œThey love convenience.ā€

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Roger Beal's avatar

Overheard from two women talking in a grocery store: "Convenience will be the death of this nation."

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Robin Greer's avatar

Remember that the Plandemic ensured that they were in the "winners" category.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Young people are enthralled with using Amazon. They are all in. It's the "easy" way. Unfortunately, they don't understand they are feeding the behemoth. Also interesting that Apple is a "monopoly" but Amazon isn't!

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AngelaK's avatar

And if you dont buy from them, you are still supporting the devils of big corporations.

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Bandit's avatar

I've never bought anything off amazon.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

ā€œI will search for the lost, bring back the scattered, bind up the broken, and strengthen the sick; but the fat and the strong I will destroy. I will shepherd them with judgment.ā€ — Ezekiel 34:16 LSB

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Kathy Sullivan's avatar

Every other pharma commercial is about skin conditions now....connect the dots!

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Crixcyon's avatar

Since I quit watching most live TV over 20 years ago, I have missed 13,671,569,233 drug ads. Talk about keeping your sanity.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

šŸŽÆ

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Susan Seas's avatar

My husband even commented that the commercials are showing us the next vaXx injuries! Don’t worry there’s a pill for that. And a second one if that doesn’t work! šŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø

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Kathy Sullivan's avatar

And they show these skin conditions....people itching, big oozing bumps....just nasty! They created all of this! Give a jab and be guaranteed a patient for the rest of their miserable life! Also, these outward signs of skin conditions are just representation of what's going on on the inside!

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Fred's avatar

šŸŽÆ!

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Hmmm, I watch way too much tv, and the only skin ads I see are for excema and psoriasis. EXCEPT that repulsive Gold Bond ad featuring folks with just generally unfortunate skin. . . Blotchy and pimply. And adverts claiming to help bad skin have been around FOREVER.

(Noxzema, anyone? Ponds Cold Cream?)

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Susan Seas's avatar

And to make all these things look ā€œnormalā€ like how all the heart attack commercials are now 40 yr old women! No longer 60+ yr old men!

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

The jab...the gift that keeps giving to the Medical Industrial Complex...

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Erin Montgomery's avatar

Notice all the new HIV commercials?

With the depression of the immune system after all the shots, many more people will be diagnosed with this. Contrary to how we learned this was acquired. IMO

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Marice Nelson's avatar

More syphilis being diagnosed because people are suddenly going blind from it, more bad rsv infections, more cases of leprosy, tb, more central line infections, more cancer and autoimmune diseases, more heart failure and dysfunction, mental decline, and I know I am forgetting some

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shayne's avatar

And they throw up a big sky show to keep everyone looking up so they're not looking at what is going on about them...

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Kathy Sullivan's avatar

Look here but don't look there! Such a crock!

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

Carville posted that nothing they’ve done is working. Here’s a thought how about just being honest AND start working for THE PEOPLE!!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Dismantle the whole thing and start over. No institution or government entity they’ve created is redeemable.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I disagree with the esteemed James. I would posit that everything they are doing is working.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

As they intended. He’s loving it.

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Chevrus's avatar

Well you caint just out right annnounce that you are going to crash the whole system through increasingly obvious acts of sabotage.

Come now! Put some fleece blankets over that pack of wolves!!

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rolandttg's avatar

That dirtbag used to have a weekend house in Shenandoah County. Here's a bit of trivia for you. Katie Couric's first husband was buried here. A now deceased born and raised local friend I had coffee with daily was a pallbearer. Katie never mentioned that his casket was draped in the Stars and Bars flag.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

The people don't write five figure .or more. checks to their representatives, they vote!

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

Ummm. You do know you’re talking about democrat politicians?

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Dr Linda's avatar

Children’s Health Defense (CHD) ran a call to action on Saturday regarding the ā€œtreatyā€.

I couldn’t get the link to go through for a period over 24 hours (I didn’t stay up all night). It appeared to be jammed up, similar to when C&Cers start participating in multipliers.

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AngelaK's avatar

I want to sign. but I get seriously nervous about sharing my phone number and address with anything political these days.

*** Update: I will sign..Please share the link. I cannot find it now.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I figured that info will put us in the same FEMA camp for deplorables.

At least, I will be among friends.

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rolandttg's avatar

They know where I am. They know where you are. Sorry, but too much of that going around still. Sure, stay the heck away from protests you know are set ups, but somewhere along the line, people need to stop leaving it to someone else to put their heads above the parapets. I regularly donate to people who willingly put themselves "out there" on podcasts , articles, posts, and rallies. Einstein said " All evil needs to succeed his for good men to see evil and stand by and do nothing"

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RunningLogic's avatar

Agree.

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Katherine's avatar

Courage is required, today, if we are to be free of those destroying our world!

Many of us have felt this fear, fear of "putting our heads above the parapet" so to say, but decided to go ahead anyway. Lots of people are already dead because of the actions of these incompetent and/or malevolent individuals and the more regular human beings who stand up and call them out, the better. There is strength in numbers, my friend. Let's break the hold of the WEFers, the Globalists, the One World Totalitarians with the sheer numbers of those who resist!

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yes courage and bullshit meters have been in short supply for several years now.

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Copernicus's avatar

Use a fake one?

I agree with you. And yet if we don’t speak, who will? What is the cost of our silence? We have been silent too long already, such that it now costs more to speak. We must speak now, while we still can.

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RunningLogic's avatar

And the greater our numbers the more difficult it is to sideline us!

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Fla Mom's avatar

"Our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Sacred honor if nothing else. ā€œBe faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you life as your victor’s crownā€ (Revelation 2:10).

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Kathy's avatar

We still have to stand up. Put in a fake phone number if you have to.

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AngelaK's avatar

Yes, that is what I will do.

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AngelaK's avatar

Thank you. Since I already have a Governor (DeSantis) fighting against WHO, I sent it to our President. Since they like to throw around the word 'democracy' all the time, I said that our medical autonomy is vital for our democracy! šŸ˜‰

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Fla Mom's avatar

Excellent! Use their own language against them.

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AngelaK's avatar

I love to do that!

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

That's what they want. They want you to fear. They WANT you nervous. As I've been saying to anyone who would listen over the past four years: "It's not like they're going to take you out to the back of the building and SHOOT you". Resist. Stand up.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

They’re going to have to come here to shoot me. It will cost them.

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rolandttg's avatar

I had a similar problem, and finally gave up

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R1ghtTh1nk's avatar

That reminds me: I was unable to "get through" to donate to the John Eastman multiplier. How did that turn out?

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MOMinator's avatar

I sent a check

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rolandttg's avatar

This was on AOL Saturday. Proud resident of Shenandoah County. We seem to be the first and only county to have reversed the widespread erasure of Confederate names from schools and military bases. We already knew about it, and have donated to the fund to make it happen. Sick that my taxpayer money was used to change the HS names over strong local opposition, but private money is needed to change the names back. Another victory for "everything is local".

FYI, VA Army base Fort Pickett (Pickett's charge , Day 3 at Gettysburg), a very larger base, has been renamed. For Bare Foot, after an Indian.

https://www.aol.com/news/reversal-virginia-school-board-votes-011430506.html

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I lived in the South for 20 years. Lots of history there that should never be erased.

I met folks who had ancestors in the country from the 1700s.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I have an ancestor who had a trading post on the Tombigbee River in what is now east Alabama, trading with the Miscogee and other tribes of the area. John McIntosh was his name. A lot of Scotsmen settled the southern territory and apparently got along well with the natives. They shared tribal governing histories. Many of these Scotsmen were also Confederate war heroes. They prized freedom from government mandates.

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Beckadee's avatar

The Tombigbee River pretty much borders the MS and AL state line so it's west AL. A town 30 miles north of Mobile, AL named McIntosh Bluff was named after a John McIntosh. Maybe this is your John McIntosh. This from Wikitree after a quick search.

"His whereabouts between the 1740s and 1765 are not certain, but he was probably fighting the French in the Seven Years War. In 1765, he was granted land at McIntosh Bluff, on Tombigbee River, abt 30 miles North of present Mobile, AL. He was appointed as the British Commissary Agent to the Chickasaw Nation by John Stuart in 1765 and remained in that post almost continuously until his death. In that capacity he settled and established a plantation/trading post near present-day Pontotoc, MS, which, at the time, was part of the Chickasaw Nation. He remained a British Loyalist and worked to enlist the help of Native Americans in the fight against the American colonists. John McIntosh died about February 1780 and his son, John Jr. became the new Agent to the Chickasaw, making his home at Tockshish."

Ignore the part about him being a British loyalists, as many were and remained loyal to the British. Maybe because they had some wealth at the time and didn't want to lose it? General Andrew Jackson took care of that starting in AL with Creek Indian Wars 1812. Then moved onto New Orleans whipping the British. A fascinating history for sure. The book by Jim Webb, Born Fighting- How the Scots-Irish Shaped America also says the majority of Colonists fighting were Scots-Irish.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Being of Scottish decent and raised in the South myself (maternal grandfather was a Lawder) I picked up some history over the years. The Celtic tribes (Irish, Scots, etc) mostly settled the South. Anglo-Saxons (the Yankees) mostly settled in New England. The Celtic fight for liberty against the Anglo/Saxons goes all the way back to William Wallace depicted in the movie "Braveheart". The War of Northern Aggression and the following Reconstruction dispossessed most of the original Southerners turning them into refugees who then uprooted and headed West for new opportunities. They were the ones who settled the West, not New Englanders as portrayed in so many movies.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

On the other hand, my house is possessed of quite a many Federal/Empire pieces of furniture (chiefly bureaus), which my New Hampshire great x ? grandmother picked up at auction, when NH farmers were selling off their unneeded-for-the-new-life possessions before heading west.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Well, the West was an attraction for those looking for a new start...if you were up for the challenge.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Soil in Northern New England just a little on the thin side. Glaciers and all that.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Geography is not my strong suit. I just know Tombigbee River.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Considering that my grandparents came over from Eastern Europe in the early 1900s, I was always amazed at the history of some of the folks I met.

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Paula's avatar

My mother's ancestors went to Florida from Ireland in the 1740s. They had been Southerners for 100+ years when the Civil War came around. One Confederate veteran would take his penknife and slash the throat on every Lincoln penny he found.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

When I lived in the South, many referred to the Civil War as The War of Northern Aggression.

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rolandttg's avatar

One of the acceptable descriptions , along with the War of Secession. It was NOT a civil war, which by definition is a war between two or more factions competing for control of the central government. Yet another example of the cabal controlling the language. What is going on now is closer to a real civil war

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Paula's avatar

Well, yeah. Or The Great Unpleasantness.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Many years ago I was deeply disappointed to find two ancestors who were veterans of the Yankee army buried in a family cemetery.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I suspect that your grandparents had equally rich histories to tell. The hard question is, did they?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Not really. They were intent on becoming Americanized and leaving the "old country" behind.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

My children, from husband and self, have 13 Mayflower ancestors; husband and I are 13th cousins. Never noticed before typing this the repetition of 13.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

...and written on the 13th day of May.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

That 1740's post-Culloden flight.

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rolandttg's avatar

My John Wayne like beloved last boss had letters from Jeb Stuart he had received from his mother. He was a relative of hers somehow. My boss was from Appalachia ,of Scot decent.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

My first direct relative landed at Jamestown in 1608, and is mentioned in Capt. John Smith's diary.

160-odd years later, another direct ancestor, Arthur Middleton of SC, signed the Declaration of Independence next to Thomas Jefferson's signature. That is Mr. Middleton and his family portrait in my avatar.

Painted in 1773 by Benjamin West, it was copied by John Trumball when he was commissioned to paint The Signing of the Declaration. Most of the signers were deceased by 1817, and so Trumball had to either use their sons as models, or as in my great-father's case, use existing portraits to render their likeness. Middleton is depicted with his head bent forward because that was how West painted him in the family portrait.

About that same time, another ancestor sold the land that would become Arlington National Cemetery to the Lee family.

We Southerners are a proud and historic people. Hell no, we ain't forgetting.

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rolandttg's avatar

My old boss used to say "American by birth. Southern by the grace of God"

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Roger Beal's avatar

Suggested reading: "Albion's Seed" by David Fischer. Traces four British ancestral groups' migrations to, and settlement in, what became these United States. You can find good used copies on Ebay. Here's a lengthy review: https://slatestarcodex.com/2016/04/27/book-review-albions-seed/

Some of my ancestors are what's called "borderers", the Scots-Irish who forged the early paths into the American midwest, and built much of America's industrial strength during the late 19th / early 20th centuries.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Thanks--I wanted to suggest the book, but couldn't remember the title--DHF yes. The four waves of English immigration (or emigration, depending on your viewpoint). Husband and I jest that our ancestors fled England to avoid religious persecution (1620, and of course, earlier in Leyden); then eldest daughter in 2004 married an Englishman-- a High Church Anglican priest. Currently a canon of a cathedral. Ancestors would roll in their graves!

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rolandttg's avatar

Absolutely fascinating. I can't stop reading it

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Imagine the fan district in Richmond. I can’t. Not any longer.

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rolandttg's avatar

Spent lots of good times there. Biograph Theater, quirky old homes a lot of our friends lived in, interesting stores and restaurants.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Drove past Location of Pickett's charge March 27, getting fruit trees from local nursery. First time I'd been in Gettysburg--have lived in Pa since '77.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Oh my gosh! My first trip to Gettysburg was 14 years ago and it was life changing! Take the time to visit and take the tour!

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rolandttg's avatar

It's about a 2 hour+ drive from us. Went once as a kid on the way to FL. tBeen there several times in the past few years, taking an audio tour around the sites. Takes most of a day, but well worth it. Like going in winter when there are no crowds. Sobering and extremely educational.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Was fortunate to visit Gettysburg in the 1990's. I stood looking over the scene of Pickett's Charge for a long, long time palpably feeling the presence of those who died that day.

I cannot recommend enough the Pulitzer prize-winning book The Killer Angels, by Michael Shaara. So well written that you will hear the sound of the cicadas and feel the hot humid summer air as if you were actually there.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Thank you--my husband is our in-house American history buff. As to the feeling of being there--I don't need a book! Montgomery Cty Pa (15 mi NNW of Phila) is cicada and humid all summer.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

The Confederate battle flag is an American flag.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Representing states rights

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Yes. And I come from the Northern side.

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Kitkat's avatar

Every time I hear "gender affirming care", I just want to scream. It's mutilation, pure and simple! And that our tax dollars are spent on this is infuriating. How about investing in mental health care?

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Guy White's avatar

ā€˜Gender affirming careā€ brought to you by the same language contortionists who substitute ā€œreproductive health careā€ (or ā€œreproductive freedomā€ which is supremely absurd) for ABORTION, which is a procedure — medically invasive or pharmaceutical — that terminates a pregnancy and ends an unborn life. Could we just get back to speaking TRUTH and call something by its proper name? Especially in an election year? Tying to hide behind literary fig leaves to mask the horror of a reality is one of the Marxists’ most potent tools — unfortunately it doesn’t work for us, so we can’t play the same game, because inner moral integrity keeps us from obfuscating truth with word salad.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

We achieved peak buffoonery when conversion therapy didn’t affirm nature but mutilation affirmed gender confusion. Looking for a study tracking post-conversion suicides . . .

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Pentagon paying for it for those too mentally confused to know what gender they are...

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Fla Mom's avatar

And I've been sure from the beginning that that policy change has been used as a recruiting tool, to attract more pre-surgery trans people who want their very expensive surgeries and lifetime medical follow-on care paid for by other people. I'm also sure that they're not "worldwide deployable," which was the standard for recruiting and retention in the Army in my day.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I read that the gender confused are exempt from physical fitness requirements and they are not deployable.

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Roger Beal's avatar

So send 'em to Ukraine, where they can become more hapless cannon fodder for El Presidente Piano Penis's army.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Grrrr...

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Kathy's avatar

Yes, but preferably without all those toxic pharmaceutical drugs that seem to have increased the numbers of mass shootings when they became widely used.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Right??!! I have the same reaction šŸ˜•

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Dan McDunn's avatar

We have a good friend in Portland whose daughter decided she was a boy during the pandemic. The parents, as many do here in West coast leftist cities, just ran with it. Never even bothered to question it. Thank God during the pre-op consult for top surgery, after a few years of hormone therapy et al, the child tapped the brakes. She’s now a she again and treating the anxiety and depression as anxiety and depression and not a gender confusion disorder. She has a long way to go to get better, and unwind all that, but much less far than had she gone along with the surgery.

We took in the daughter of my wife’s best friend in July 2021. Her mom was murdered by Pfizer lot en 6201, a top 10 lot for murder and physical mayhem. Her father died that month too of unknown causes. Anyhow, this girl had every right to be anxious and depressed, and she was. For a few minutes in 2022 she wanted to go by ā€œthey/them.ā€ My wife and I just kept calling her ā€œshe/herā€ and never indulged the pronoun change. In a few weeks that little blip of madness went away and she was on to a new facial piercing. Teens, what are ya gonna do?

Anyhow, not much to do but pray that these laws give some parents the courage to tap the brakes for their kids, and/or bring enough light to the subject to change the tone in leftist communities. It does seem we have peaked and are on the backside of the trans trance.

I’ll say this, there is no friggin’ way that adding serious medical treatment and complications to a serious psychological problem is going to yield a greater degree of human flourishing than dealing with just the psychological problem. The medical stuff might distract from the underlying issue, but it can only eventually make it all worse. It will be fascinating to look back on this era in a decade or so. I heard Jordan Peterson say, like 5 years ago, ā€œit’s all fun and games until the lawsuits start.ā€ I imagine there will be quite a heyday for more than a few attorneys at some point. You thought the gender affirming care gold rush was huge?! Just wait!

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Fred's avatar

šŸŽÆšŸŽÆšŸŽÆ! A thousand ’likes’ to your comment! And bless you for taking on that immense challenge!!! I can’t imagine…

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Marice Nelson's avatar

People of a certain persuasion feel so badly about the past treatment of homosexuals that they are willing to mutilate today’s children in some terribly misguided attempt to make up for it

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Ukraine lost.

Pennsylvania cheated 2020.

VA still offering the covid DeathVax to veterans.

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Erin Montgomery's avatar

A friend working at the VA had a recent patient that had a 3 inch tumor removed from her jabbed arm that had tentacles. Patient obviously a veteran, works for the VA at one of their long term care facilitates. EVERYONE is still required to keep getting boosters, flu, pneumonia shots. Patient was discussing her path of connecting the dots.

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Fred's avatar

Only recently became aware of all the lymphomas and ā€˜benign’ (so far) tumors developing at the exact injection site. McCullough, I think.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Geez...what horror!

I have posted this a couple of times. VA updated (20 March 2024) covid DeathVax recommending an "additional dose" for veterans 65 years and older.

https://news.va.gov/129555/va-offering-updated-covid-19-vaccines/

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Erin Montgomery's avatar

Yes, I’ve seen that. Horrible! The VA was tenacious pushing their agenda from the start. The department I worked in had a core group refusing. Couldn’t reassign us due to fact it would shut it down completely. We of course were blackballed.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

"giving veterans one more chance to die for their country"

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Stariel291's avatar

Michigan cheated 2020 and 2022.

Commercials and billboards here still promoting getting your kids jabbed. They’ll even find you a ride to the clinic. Ain’t that nice of them?!

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Roger Beal's avatar

Some things seem to never change.

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Fred's avatar

And the damage continues: Former Padres player, top pick Sean Burroughs dead at 43; collapsed and died while coaching his son’s Little League team.

https://www.cbs8.com/mobile/article/news/local/former-padres-player-sean-burroughs-dies/509-ce40a332-987d-4a6f-83be-d1c449078da3

Can you even imagine the emotional toll on all the Little Leaguers who witnessed this? šŸ’”

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

A friend’s mom collapsed and died at church last night. About 65 yo and perfectly healthy, except for that one thing.

She stood up, fell over, and could not be resuscitated.

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Fred's avatar

The inability to resuscitate a witnessed arrest (esp with availability of ACLS, like in sports stadiums) is nearly diagnostic of a jab injury IMO. Used to be rare.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Interesting correlation.

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Fred's avatar

Yep. Without honest reporting and no autopsies (that we know of), hard to know exact pathology. One possibility is large PE’s, but that doesn’t seem to be most. Think Hamlin, and absolutely why there’s NWIH it was commotio cordis.

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Fred's avatar

So sad…

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Ahmed’s Stack of Subs's avatar

ā€œIt was probably the high heels that slowed them down.ā€ šŸ†

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I laughed aloud on that one.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Me too šŸ˜†šŸ˜‚

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Peace's avatar

Me three!

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Kathy's avatar

Definitely classic Jeff!

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