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PamelaZelie's avatar

I’ve come to the conclusion we need no vaccines. And, the number of shots forced upon children is truly horrifying.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Me three. Mine are grown but if I had to do it again ....

And we have an infant godson who I'm terrified for.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

LOVE on that godson, Fred--pour the Holy Spirit love over that child!!

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

this should get some flames going in the CDC/FDA is conflicted??? story.

Here's chapter 1 of "Turtles All the Way Down, Vaccine Science vs. Myth" FREE online to read and learn what a scam jabcinnes have always been.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eMhzsB_-RT9KFhJcLJFhzJdIgIAou-W8/view

What will you/we learn in the quick 87 pages (all reference sources are also included)? True 'placebos' have never been run on ANY vaccines.

Pharma knows this and has gone to great lengths to prevent them from ever happening (I suspect they've done the studies and know, and therefore don't want the unwanted truth to come out).

Enjoy, learn and pass along

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I am downloading it to a thumb drive right now, Walking--many, many thanks!

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

Circle back when you are done with chapter 1, and I will pursue finding you chapters 2 through nine. Best.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

It'll be awhile until I get back with you - this is very 'heavy' content - won't 'read' like a novel--LOL!!

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

Let me know if you have any questions as this is an area where I have completed coursework to better understand the lunacy of this entire Mafioso business.

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Smatse's avatar

Ditto.

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william howard's avatar

Dr Mercola agrees with you

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JudyC's avatar

(Long time follower of Mercola. He was my “gateway” into understanding health.)

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I learned about Dr. Mercola while walking my little rescue Maltese in a local park back in 2013 (from a fellow dog walker whose dog's issues were helped by the holistic veterinarian, Dr. Becker, who partners with Dr. Mercola - and have followed his essays and use his supplements as the Spirit leads me to do so. Good man!!

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

"holistic veterinarian, Dr. Becker"

Does Dr. Becker have thoughts/solutions to canine cancer?

Treating mine with IVM currently but always looking out for extra input/help/suggestions/tools that have helped.

https://Fenbendazole.org and

https://fenbendazole.substack.com

are two locations I frequent.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Walking...I just checked Dr. Karen Becker's website and she does not post her "essays" on her website - I signed up to receive her newsletters once again (I had unsubscribed a few years ago because I didn't have the time to read them anymore). I imagine if you contacted her by e-mail she would answer any and all questions you have--she's that kind of "mensch"!! Here's a link to her website anyway: https://drkarenbecker.com/dvm/

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JudyC's avatar

Excellent sites to follow, not just for pets, but for us humans as well!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I will check our Dr. Becker's website and send you any helpful links I discover, Walking!! Hang tight - (smile)!!

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John Ransley's avatar

Go Mercola! No jabs no seed oils no leaky gut.Thank you Dr.

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Kathryn Caldwell's avatar

Dr. Mercola was my "go-to" for years but lately something seems to be amiss with him. I don't know what is going on but I am a bit skeptical when I hear things like he is consulting with a psychic. I do see a difference in him. I just pray that he is ok.

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CitizenA's avatar

Kathryn I agree that something is amiss with Dr. Mercola. I am more and more uncomfortable reading the content of his daily articles. He has changed his stance on so many of his previous held health positions. It just unsettles me.

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Heidi D.'s avatar

I love Dr. Mercola and am so grateful for all I have learned from him. A few days ago I watched this video related to what has been going on with Dr. Mercola. I recommend watching it rather than reading it to gain a better understanding. Click on the arrow to listen to Barbara Fisher talk. So heartbreaking! I really hope he will be ok.

https://www.nvic.org/newsletter/may-2024/defending-freedom-of-religion

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Kathryn Caldwell's avatar

I agree with you CitizenA. I started noticing a difference in his health positions since last winter, and not just one or two, but so many that I found it unsettling, and a red flag was raised.

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Butterfly2510's avatar

I keep hearing that but his newsletter seems fine to me. Same great info.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I haven't seen anything glaringly different in Dr. Mercola's newsletters that I receive - mostly they come through bi-weekly or monthly. What is 'changing' in his advice because I haven't noticed it.

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JudyC's avatar

He’s changed his stance on carbs and keto diets, but explains very well his reasons for the change. I happen to agree with his new approach to that area. I still glean good information from his articles, and also from the commenters on his articles. I take what is useful to me, and ignore anything that doesn’t apply. I think that’s all we can do, no matter the source. If there’s one thing we’ve learned over the last 4 years, it’s be skeptical of everything and do your own research!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

BINGO - your mindset mimics mine, JudyC!!

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Michael Framson's avatar

I just finished reading today's C & C. Jeff's notes from his presentation at the NACL would be a "useful" sermon at any congregation where those in attendance are searching for an explanation of what happened and is happening to us.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

SPOT ON - would definitely be better than some of the 'lightweight' sermons being preached in so-called "Christian" congregations - would give the attendees some real "meat" to chew on. Time to put away the "pablum" and get on to the REAL menu!!

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Monterey's avatar

I'm not a close follower of his, but I suggest that anything he recommends that came as a result of consulting with his psychic should be avoided at all costs.

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Kathy Sincere's avatar

Interesting news from the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) re Dr. Mercola.

https://www.nvic.org/newsletter/may-2024/defending-freedom-of-religion

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G Harkness's avatar

Yep, although I have never really cared for Mercola, I did realize that he was right a good bit of the time. But lately....I'm personally not going down that path and hope he comes to his senses soon....

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nancylee's avatar

next step: there are no virus* correction: no virus has ever actually been shown to exist. they appear to have always been the fraud invention that opens the door to vaccines.

Drs Sam and Mark Bailey for much more info https://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-435-a-farewell-to-virology-with-guest-dr-mark-bailey--51376779

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Not That “Karen”'s avatar

I may be a lone dissenter here, but when you say viruses don’t exist to people, that’s when you start to lose them and their eyes begin to glaze over and they begin to think crazy conspiracy theorist and they tune out anything else you have to say and disregard anything you had said before. If there are no viruses (and I really don’t care if you call them viruses or something else) then explain what causes measles, mumps, hepatitis, Ebola, Covid, etc

If you tell me Covid wasn’t real, the many people who experienced it firsthand would beg to differ. I have never been as sick as I was with Covid (and no I did not get the shot) and it was totally different than any typical flu I’ve had before. I lost my sense of smell and it took over a year for it to come back. I’m not saying it rose to the level of a pandemic, but there was something different going around, and I don’t think it necessarily helps the “cause” to say viruses don’t exist until you’re prepared to offer an alternative to what has made someone sick other than “oh, it’s the 5G”, or “it’s just your body detoxing”, or “its really past traumas just coming to the surface”.

To be clear though, I am against any and all vaccines and pretty much every other pharmaceutical product and allopathic medicine in general, because I don’t think “scientists” are anywhere close to smart enough to have a detailed understanding of how the human body actually functions, to be able to develop something that will not have unintended and potentially devastating consequences.

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LiveDreamRepeat's avatar

I feel like I could have written this word for word. I'm ready to entertain the thought that there are no "viruses" but until a reasonable explanation is provided for how illnesses clearly move from person to person, I feel like it's just a semantics game. Our family stopped ALL shots over 12 years ago. We are all very healthy and rarely get sick - but with 4 kids, usually when one catches something, it does move through at least one or 2 other kids. We never tested for Covid, but we most definitely had it at least twice. The first time, I had to use literally everything in my holistic toolbox to get well and I remember thinking that any other person would likely have needed significant allopathic treatment to overcome it. Our family actually traveled full-time during the majority of the pandemic - and ironically, only had "covid" while visiting our homebase. It was quite interesting to live a life of such freedom while watching so many people succumb to the narrative and live life trapped in their homes.

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Aria Veritas's avatar

I wrote this a few weeks back. I made it as short and concise as possible about what viruses are, and what they are not.

It's the most reasonable explanation I found about ten years ago and I've been using the knowledge to prove it to myself and my family ever since. It's solid.

https://ariaveritas.substack.com/p/spells-of-covid-and-the-viral-illusion

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Roger Beal's avatar

Two readings of your article lead me to ask:

Are all of mankind's diseases self-inflicted, the result of poor nutrition, low levels of physical activity, environmental toxins, and/or fear?

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Aria Veritas's avatar

I'm led to believe yes, more or less.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

BEAUTIFUL - you're using the "truth tool" I just explained in my "comment" today concerning the "reality of viruses". Danke, Aria Veritas!!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Nice article, thanks for linking.

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daverkb's avatar

Covid ... real or not real?

Amazingly, all other causes of disease magically disappeared in 2020. Everything was Covid, Covid, Covid no matter what one caught or got. Ask anyone what they got and it was Covid and nothing else. This held true whether it was death certificates, hospital admissions, visits to local masked man pretending to be a doctor. So, to sum. Some people got real sick from something. Some did not. The people who got real sick from something called it 'covid' ... and the people who got sick with other things also called it 'covid'. So everyone got sick with 'covid' whether they did or not. Like Shakespeare said, "What is there in a name?"

By the way Russia, Russia, Russia is not Russia ... nor the Ukraine for that matter. Russia, Russia, Russia might be code for the United States, and only by some stretch of the imagination. But I would not know because I like mostly in the real world, even though this causes problems for me.

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Tio Nico's avatar

Yup. Even the guy who crashed his motorcycle in the LA Freeway and died because of his injuries didn't really sustain any life-thretening ijuries. He died of the covid thing, and the hospital, as a Big Prize" for ticking the correct box on the "cause of deah" form, got a bonus if $40K.

See how that works? Dangle a bit of gelt in front of an hospital administrator/money-man, and there IS no other cause of death than the Woo Flew.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Died 'with covid' was the same as died from covid.

What a scam!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Exactly. How would someone even know they had 'covid' when the tests are so nonsensical. There was so much obfuscation.

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daverkb's avatar

How easily people do themselves in by uncritically consenting to employ the terms their masters serve up them, and thereby unwitting consent towards furthering their own self-destruction. Covid, Long Covid ... empty of content.

I am glad to see that this bothers a few other people as much as it does me.

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PEL's avatar

And influenza just….disappeared. Both are in the same family of viruses. Why was this fact ignored?

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Bubblehead604's avatar

Karen, nancylee is correct that pathogenic viruses don't exist, though the way I prefer to say it is "those particles scientists call viruses have never been proven to do what they claim." The basic truth to understand is that Terrain Theory is backed up by science; Germ Theory is not. Here is an excellent video discussing this topic:

https://odysee.com/@TruthVault:0/The-End-of-Germ-Theory:b

Each of the diseases you listed do have other possible causes, all of the causes falling into one of two categories--toxins (bad food, water, air, EMF, etc.) or lack of something (insufficient vitamins, minerals, proteins, sunshine, contact with the earth, contact with other humans, etc.).

There are many great books that discuss the above in detail. I recommend Can You Catch a Cold? (Roytas), Virus Mania (Kohnlein, et. al.), The Contagion Myth (Cowan, Morrell), or The Invisible Rainbow (Firstenburg).

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nancylee's avatar

thanks for correcting my comment. the honest virologists say that virus have never been proven to exist. I'll be more careful in future.

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Not That “Karen”'s avatar

I don’t agree or disagree with your statement or the linked videos assertion that viruses don’t exist. I simply don’t know as I am no expert. As I said in my original comment, I don’t necessarily care what it is called, terrain theory, germ theory, etc. My main concern is what I experience and observe firsthand. I don’t believe even our most intelligent scientists and doctors, including the ones you mentioned, have a clear and complete understanding of the complex and wonderful design that is our bodies and their interactions with the world around us. Only our Creator has that understanding and we are much better off to look to nature, which He provided for things to cure what ails us.

I believe this is backed up by the fact that I can’t think of a single disease that allopathic medicine has cured (but maybe I have missed something). Pretty much without exception, pharmaceuticals have unintended and undesirable consequences, at least in some people. Therefore, I think it is in everybody’s best interests to not only question the efficacy, or lack thereof, of any and all vaccines but also any and all pharmaceuticals (but no, I am not recommending someone discontinue all their prescriptions, this post does not constitute medical advice lest someone report me to the FDA).

When someone just throws out “viruses don’t exist” it goes against many people’s experiences and observations and it doesn’t move the needle in the vaccine or Covid debate, because many people experienced something that caused them or loved ones to be ill or possibly die. Call it Covid or call it the normal seasonal flu or something else but it was something. I’m not buying that it was 5G, an individual’s past or current traumas, stress, our psyche, or just our bodies normal detoxification process, all of which I have seen posited.

In my opinion, the debate should be, assuming for arguments sake that Covid exists, did the government have the authority to suspend our God given rights that are delineated in the Constitution and to require people be masked, distanced and injected with unsafe, ineffective substances? For me that would be a hard no.

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Martin's avatar

Your not alone in your dissent.

I tried to like your post but the “like” button does not seem to work.

No Covid vax in our home

My daughter came home sick w Covid. Next day I had it. Two days later other two kids sick. I was really sick, I took a week off work, first sick time for me in over ten years. It was three more weeks before I was really able to function well.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

When the tests are so ridiculous, how would you know if you guys had covid? Flu can do similar reactions.

Not throwing shade, just asking questions.

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Martin's avatar

That’s a great question, although influenza is from a virus also. I also reject the validity of those tests in that they cycled them so many times that they certainly got a huge number of false positives. But if that’s true they shouldn’t miss an actual positive case. I’m not defending the Covid test they were designed to make everything seem worse for the masses and they worked very well for that.

I’m not a flu expert, I think I’ve had it a couple of times in my life, three maybe four times, I’m 61 years old.

When I think of flu I think of headache, fever, throwing up, bodyaches. What I had was much worse than that. I did not take a test and neither did my other two kids, my first kid that came home with it was required by their employer to take a test and they came out positive and they in fact had the same common symptoms, that is loss of taste, loss of smell etc. I did not lose taste or smell but suddenly cold water or any cold beverage tasted horrible to me. I could only drink room temperature water. That lasted for well over a year. I live in Florida I work outside all day every day and I could not have ice water because I simply couldn’t drink it - it tasted so bad to me. I also had other strange symptoms, I felt like there was twisted reinforcement bar writhing in my gut. It hurt so bad I’ve never experienced anything like that before, but the worst symptoms of all was exhaustion. It was awful that I felt better physically (after Hydroxychloroquine ) but I couldn’t hardly get out of a chair. I felt fine no fever no nothing but I couldn’t do anything, fortunately that in my job I’m the boss and I was able to assign work and just lay low because otherwise I would’ve had to take two or three additional weeks off because I just really couldn’t do anything besides show up.

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Vida Galore's avatar

I lost my sense of smell without getting Covid or being sick from anything. I also lost it every time I've had a cold. I don't think it's related to Covid (if there even is a covid). I just think we were poisoned. That would explain a nursing home out in the middle of nowhere getting it before anyone else. Say what? How did old people who never go anywhere, without visitors, get decimated by "covid"? Anecdotal "evidence" by people who say "I was never so sick... " well every year, someone has a bad flu that they were 'never so sick' from. This has happened anecdotally to me for 3 years running. Not that I was sick but that someone I worked with, am related to, or friends with got the flu and "it was the worst flu I ever had." I am guessing that that's how our memory works - we don't remember how bad the last flu was when we get the next one. The present one is always going to be the worst, esp. the older we get.

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Chris Kanon's avatar

Yup there are no unique symptoms for convid, it's other diseases relabeled.

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Aria Veritas's avatar

A 'virus' is a biological program designed to go in to action the very second a psychological problem is perceived. Say you were told you had cancer and had six months to live - Heaven forbid. That shock is registered in the brain IMMEDIATELY. The psyche is not biological, but the brain is. The brain's shock is relayed to a specific organ. For a death fright one will develop lung cancer (so-called). For a separation shock one will develop a skin cancer. There is a biological law involved.

The shock can be seen on a CT scan as a ring.

I wrote about it once if you have the inclination.

https://ariaveritas.substack.com/p/spells-of-covid-and-the-viral-illusion

The point is, a virus is a biological program for a specific section of the body.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Karen, you urgently need to watch this video, I'm certain it is the most important one you can watch today:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1199911197683272

Anyone else reading this post, please watch it, and share it, its only 7 minutes.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Daniel, I don't click on links that I don't know what they are. If you give a brief description of what the video is, you might get more people who will watch it.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Okay, no problem. The video is of David Martin, the founding chairman of M Cam asset management company (and American patent auditing expert), at an International Covid Summit organized by the European Parliament in Brussels in May 2023, In it he states that the US was responsible for the making of both coronaviruses causing the outbreaks of severe acute respiratory syndrome - or SARS - in 2003 and the Covid-19 pandemic in the past three years., He discusses, with clarity, how the corona "virus" is a man made "virus" that is the result of manipulation begun in 1965. He provides the "receipts" and many more facts of which everyone should be aware. It was simply 7 stunning minutes of information to me. Its a crime against humanity for which there must be full accountability.

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Joanne Shannon's avatar

He was trying to find at least on State’s Attorney General back in Jan. 2021, on that infamous day, when he stood in front of the Senate building and read a list of statutes broken by the manufacture of the jab. I am surprised he hasn’t been derailed like Reiner Fuellmich in Germany.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I think everyone can now understand why this information has been censored and hidden from us. At least it was hidden from me since I just found out about it this week and wanted to share it as widely as I possibly could. Some Attorney General somewhere (Paxton in TX?) needs to conduct a full investigation, empanel a grand jury and start bringing indictments. Our federal government, giant pharmaceuticals, media, etc., are all in cover up mode.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I WILL PRAY THIS HAPPENS, Daniel - I hope you can share that information in a different link other than a Facebook one - perhaps a Substack article??

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I hope everyone shares it Sharon. I hope our great friend Jeff Childers shares it since his voice is massively larger than mine.

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Tio Nico's avatar

so whether naturally occuring or man made from the start, a virus IS a thing.

No question the virus responsible for the covid madness IS a real thing. I've seen a number of solid pieces of evidence detailing HOW that particular corona virus was adopted as the starting point then manipulated/modified to become what is now called SARS CoV 2, after spending illions of OUR tx dollars to develop the final product. I've seen solid evidence tracing the origins and pathway tp the current version of it.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Tio, I'm surprised that is your takeaway. The far bigger issue is that they conducted the pLandemic against the people of the world - truly, a crime against humanity - and so far have completely gotten away with it. And not only that but in the US, they also changed the way we vote, without our consent, so they could manipulate and steal the election, not against Trump but against the people. And now we have an un-elected puppet and an administration doing immense damage, not only to the USA but the world - and so far have completely gotten away with it.

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Tio Nico's avatar

Danil your pons are valid and yet do not take away anything from MY point. I have read extensively on how the virus was designed and released (there are three plausible pathways to have ben followed from the point the virus itself was gain-of-function modified from its natural state, it is highly probable a combination was used to get it "out there"). Sraightaway our gummit's "response" was so obviously preplanned, the narrative already fully formed, the dithering by those "responsible" to act in such "situations". the lawfare that brought in mandates, crazy "prescriptions", the banning of anything even remotely a potential cure or adjuvant. ALL the pieces "happened" to be ready and primed within days of it being "found" in public.

HAD the Nürenberg Convention and tue US lw arisong directly from that been cited and ENFORCED nationwide, NO ONE could have been forced to slap oin those wretched mug nappies.. those devices are a "medical device" and canno be forced upon anyone. Hydrochloroquine is known to be VERY helpful in treatment of similar viral diseases. It was denied general use, again contra Nürenberg I have studied the precise mechanism by which ths drug prohibits the proliferation/replication of viral particles in humans. Simpel direct, known. But, contra Nürenberg, denied by our gummit poohbahs, illegally. Two long time dear friends of mine were in Nicaragua durong the nonsense, both got the covid. They were brought to "good" hosptials hich applied the US mandated "cure: go home, rest, take lots of fluids, and come back if it gets worse. They did it did they did...within a few days they put both of them on ventilators, they were both gone Home within a week. What made me FURIOUS is that any ten year old kid in Nicaragua can take the equivalent of about three dollars fifty, walk into any farmácia and in a coule of minutes walked back out with large supply of HCQ, gone back to their houses and cured them.

Enacting mandates conditioning your employment, membership in an organisation or school, ability to freely move about s you would upon taking that UNTESTED unproven experimental injection is directly counter to US law based upon the Nürenberg Protocls.

That ONE THING could have been deployed and used to end the entire madness, all mandates, experimental shots, prohibitions against proven medical treatments, and ended the pandemic within a few weeks.

NOW do you understand a bit more from where I am coming on "Nürenberg? The LAW is there, it ws scrupulously IGNORED, locked up and not mentioned in the general discussion regarding this manufactured scam.

My apologies, I was VERY pressed for time this morning and had not expected to find THIS topic addressed today. Hope I've been able to 'splain muh sewf a bit better.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Tio, Im 100% with you on all of that. To be clear, they coordinated with the CCP for the use of the chinese people to be the vector. So, the 2 most powerful govs in the world are in it up to their necks in committing crimes against humanity, the worst in the history of humanity, millions murdered and injured. And they stole our country and many others. When the fuck will we exact accountability, so far there has been ZERO accountability and we are not going to get it from "our" uniparty gov.

And yes, I fully agree on every aspect of Nuremburg.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Even people on here have tried to blame it all on Trump, when he was damn near the only one fighting for us and against the global marxists and their deep state accomplices. These people are complicit.

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

Karen,

This might not 'directly' answer your question 'do viruses actually exist', but this article tackles the timelines of what was "Covid" and was it in fact a virus, or an airborne toxin emitted around the world simultaneously (think chem-trails as most are sprayed around humans, not out at sea where they'd have a better chance of really deflecting the sun's rays), but take a gander and let us know your thoughts. Complicated, I know.

https://sanityunleashed.substack.com/p/its-all-in-the-timeline

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Freedomisthebestmedicine's avatar

I agree -The virus or whatever covid is was made in a lab and is a bioweapon. The doctors treating the spike damaged know this. Others who deny it’s an issue just don’t know.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I totally agree with your consensus on "spouting off" to those who are SO ASLEEP they may never awaken. Perhaps couching the "virus discussion" with this phrase, "since science ALWAYS QUESTIONS medical discoveries, there have been NEW evidence to dispute the 'theory of viruses' their origin and modalities" or something on that order. THEN...you can share what you have learned from the TRUTH-SEEKING scientists whose work you trust.

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My Favorite Things's avatar

Amen! Well said 🌟

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Tracy's avatar

I totally agree with everything you say. I get a little tired of people saying covid was/is just a cold because I've never had a "cold" like that before. No taste/smell and the fatigue was off the charts. I could barely make it across the room. I've had walking pneumonia before and I thought that was hell. It was a walk in the park compared to covid. So it drives me nuts when people claim that there are no viruses. Then tell us exactly what we had. Also I'm not jabbed.

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Not That “Karen”'s avatar

Exactly, I had the same experience. It took me a month to feel like myself again and that only happened after I had several Vitamin C infusions. Even then, I couldn’t smell anything for a year and a half., hardly typical cold or flu symptoms.

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Tracy's avatar

I was lucky the smell and taste came back after a couple of months but the fatigue took weeks. I also developed a sinus infection probably from the nasty mask wearing. I've never had any kind of infection requiring antibiotic in my life and I'm 63. It all basically felt like all out war on my body. I thank God I've kept in shape with a lot of exercise and a low carb diet. I'm glad you are better. 😀

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Based Florida Man's avatar

How do you know it was covid? Aren't the tests known for scamming?

Perhaps it was the flu? The CDC reported the flu somehow dissipated, as they were simply counting flu cases as covid cases.

Just asking questions...

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Jeff C's avatar

You are not the lone dissenter, that is for certain.

Just because the official story regarding vaxxes is a lie doesn't mean every crackpot youtube "influencer" theory is true. Most of these people are either nuts, pushing crazy schemes for clicks, or chaos agents. Don't discount the last one as Pharma loves the "no virus" people as they make all pharma critics look nutty by association. It's similar to how the Flat Earth people are used to ridicule those who question the moon landings (based on solid evidence).

Obviously aspects of the terrain theory are true, people in poor health get sick easier. But that can be true and viruses still real, they aren't mutually exclusive. But these people play on humans inability to think in nuanced terms and propensity to swing to one extreme or the other. Hence they fall for every pied piper that comes down the pike.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Sasha Laptyova wrote a stack on this subject this week you may find interesting...

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liz's avatar

same here. I will watch the video but think it is a bridge too far for most, certainly me as I was SICKER WITH COVID (no jab) than ever before in my life.

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Gabriella's avatar

Interestingly, I watched a video with Dr. Mercola and Suzanne Humphries. They both seem to believe in viruses because of childhood diseases like measles and chickenpox. These are contagious and then people don’t get them again. Most develop immunity. Unlike colds & flu that we get multiple times and are a lot of times very similar.

I don’t fully believe colds and flus are contagious as most times in our household we don’t catch or pass on one another’s illness. I have slept in the same bed with my husband for 39 years through all our colds & few flus and we never passed one to the other.

I do believe more investigating needs to be done.

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Bubblehead604's avatar

Correct! The link you sent is good; Sam and Mark are warriors, as are Dr. Cowan, Dr. Kaufman, Stefan Lanka, and others. The science is on the side of terrain theory, not germ theory. Here's another excellent video that comprehensively explains the failures of germ theory:

https://odysee.com/@TruthVault:0/The-End-of-Germ-Theory:b

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Gabriella's avatar

Thank for this podcast link. Heads up to others… you have to listen to an intro that’s about 20-30 min. before the interview with Mark Bailey. The sound clip with Del Bigtree is one I have not heard before. He thinks the no virus theory should be ignored for now. He thinks that he’ll get more open listeners in government if the focus is vaccines are harmfull.

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liz's avatar

I agree. this "science" is completely corrupted by $$$$$

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Monterey's avatar

Right there with you. Like Dr. Peter McCullough said, 'vaccines are not the free lunch we thought they were. ' How succinct and accurate that has turned out to be. I think the long slow slide for the vaccine manufacturers has begun.

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Just Comment's avatar

Trust Nature to sort things out.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

True. The US has the highest infant mortality rate in the developed world, and has worse rates than quite a few semi-developed countries.

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