True, but to be honest I believe that the majority of "Christians" are not actually born again, saved, Spirit-filled believers, particularly in Western countries where it doesn't cost much to go to church. That may sound provocative or controversial, but I firmly believe that even in the "church" God's people are a remnant. Probably more true for some churches than others.
So true. “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." Matthew 7:13-14
Saved IS Spirit filled. To make those things two parts is to judge one VS the other as though they can exist independently and they can NOT! The Son and The Spirit are ONE.
Too many teach that God is doing ANOTHER SPECIAL WORK in them. THEY are extra special, and IF YOU BELIEVE EVEN MORE God will do something MORE special for you too...maybe if you try hard enough. Many need to see the lie. I fell for a time but God...🙌🏼
There is a new b*llsh*t label for the folks you describe: Carnal Christians. Their mantra is, "I'm already saved so I can do what I like without fear of losing my salvation". These folks have never taken Paul's words in Romans to heart. They also do not understand that every one of our ongoing sins is another burden placed on Jesus' crucified body.
You can't lump all churches or people who attend church together. I was disappointed with some but others held the line and didn't succumb to the tyranny.
We led our church out of deception without the Pastor AFTER the FIRST WEEK. Then they let us go after the Pastor was all 💉 straight and unmasked after a year and a half. And we RAN! Now at a church that fell for ONLY a month and split. Was there even ONE church that didn't split? The wheat and chafing was real and brutal. NEEDED!! But there is MORE WORK to be done! Pray that the Lord of the harvest will bring more workers! 🙏🏻
Following Gods commands to truely NOT FEAR! Feed the flock, every Sunday with potluck our family made with one other man. (The Pastor came unhinged.) Led the hymn sing. Made sure the church building was sustained. We answered the calling of Christ. Not sorry for ourselves.
On a separate note, the main reason the Son was sent was to die for the sins of those who put their faith in him. Part of the process was to expose the religious hypocrites who put unnecessary burdens on the people. He (the Father) made Him (the Son) who knew no sin, to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him (the Son). 2 Corinthians 5:21
That's an interesting question. Unfortunately, I would guess there were probably more that went along with the tyranny than did not. And yes there's definitely room for criticism of the church. I just don't like blanket stereotypes.
I'm only aware of a mere handful of Full Gospel, Non-Denominational, and Fundamental churches that stood against the mal-governing authorities' overreach based on mis and dis information; the Adversaries are carefully studying how to counter and break them all at the next opportunity. We should study the Global Church and other Religious responses to the Lockdowns/Masking/Vaxxing Fraud pushed and either swallowed or defeated by those who fought back. The Fake Church of the Global Secular State demands compliance and fealty as the head of the pantheon of gods. How the LDS, JWs, Muhammadans, and many others were infiltrated and swayed by the CoVid Cult is also a lesson to be studied. And let's be real; CoVid bioweapon flu did spread easily and did sicken and kill Christians who ignored the shut-downs and spacing/masking/vaxxing. It also killed Christians who complied with all of those things as well.
Some PCA churches ignored the mandates and continued services, albeit with the six foot spacing between participants. During the first few weeks of the plandemic, none of the congregants came to church, out of fear (not because they were pushed away by our pastor). The service attendees were our pastor, his wife, my wife, and me (streaming video to the folks at home).
My estranged daughter in law is a “ Christian “. She visited at Christmas. I think she used my very expensive nasal spray prescription for brain damage. I have had tremors since. She’s jabbed. Her church encouraged it. I told my husband she can’t stay here next time because she’s vaccinated and shedding.
She’s also been “ cured “ of her bipolar disorder according to her. I saw things differently! Verbally abusive to her husband and ignored( iPad for a 3 year old) her adopted daughter unless she was showing her off
I found a Christian counselor, short term, since she is determined to move to the area. She wanted to park her camper in the driveway while she has a house built. I can’t do that. Our house is accommodating my chronic inflammatory response syndrome . She has no idea what her father has done to accommodate my healing. & she destroyed so much progress in her ignorance and greed. It’s a challenge to handle it since i haven’t been able to forgive her yet. Forgiveness is crucial in my walk with Jesus.
Forgiveness isn't codependent. God calls us to repent before forgiveness. It doesn't lessen Gods love just how He deals with us and consequences are that. Forgiveness is a gift, bought, wrapped, prepared with love and anxious for the time to be given and ACCEPTED but repentance is the sign for the gift giving. Pray. Be ready. Be hopeful.
That includes the church. Apparently they forgot the gospel....and the constitution during the plandemic.
I'm not being a jerk, but I think it's fair to say MANY Christians need to take a long look in the mirror.
They need to learn that the next time they will strip you naked leaving you with nothing but a mask.
True, but to be honest I believe that the majority of "Christians" are not actually born again, saved, Spirit-filled believers, particularly in Western countries where it doesn't cost much to go to church. That may sound provocative or controversial, but I firmly believe that even in the "church" God's people are a remnant. Probably more true for some churches than others.
So true. “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." Matthew 7:13-14
Amen
Saved IS Spirit filled. To make those things two parts is to judge one VS the other as though they can exist independently and they can NOT! The Son and The Spirit are ONE.
Not sure how you're reading my comment, but we're not in disagreement.
Too many teach that God is doing ANOTHER SPECIAL WORK in them. THEY are extra special, and IF YOU BELIEVE EVEN MORE God will do something MORE special for you too...maybe if you try hard enough. Many need to see the lie. I fell for a time but God...🙌🏼
There is a new b*llsh*t label for the folks you describe: Carnal Christians. Their mantra is, "I'm already saved so I can do what I like without fear of losing my salvation". These folks have never taken Paul's words in Romans to heart. They also do not understand that every one of our ongoing sins is another burden placed on Jesus' crucified body.
Those folks will be sadly surprised when meeting God if they don't wake up first. Sadly it seems to be endemic in American churches.
I love the name of your stack btw
Agree. Well said
Absolutely true.
You can't lump all churches or people who attend church together. I was disappointed with some but others held the line and didn't succumb to the tyranny.
I agree. What percentage do you think took a stand of any meaningful impact?
I only know of a few. I didn't come across one before moving to Florida in May of 20'.
Maybe the gospel only applies in Florida.
It's okay to criticize the church. Same with the government.
In fact isn't that one of the main reasons the Lord sent his son?
We led our church out of deception without the Pastor AFTER the FIRST WEEK. Then they let us go after the Pastor was all 💉 straight and unmasked after a year and a half. And we RAN! Now at a church that fell for ONLY a month and split. Was there even ONE church that didn't split? The wheat and chafing was real and brutal. NEEDED!! But there is MORE WORK to be done! Pray that the Lord of the harvest will bring more workers! 🙏🏻
God bless you for your courage!
Following Gods commands to truely NOT FEAR! Feed the flock, every Sunday with potluck our family made with one other man. (The Pastor came unhinged.) Led the hymn sing. Made sure the church building was sustained. We answered the calling of Christ. Not sorry for ourselves.
On a separate note, the main reason the Son was sent was to die for the sins of those who put their faith in him. Part of the process was to expose the religious hypocrites who put unnecessary burdens on the people. He (the Father) made Him (the Son) who knew no sin, to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him (the Son). 2 Corinthians 5:21
That's an interesting question. Unfortunately, I would guess there were probably more that went along with the tyranny than did not. And yes there's definitely room for criticism of the church. I just don't like blanket stereotypes.
I'm only aware of a mere handful of Full Gospel, Non-Denominational, and Fundamental churches that stood against the mal-governing authorities' overreach based on mis and dis information; the Adversaries are carefully studying how to counter and break them all at the next opportunity. We should study the Global Church and other Religious responses to the Lockdowns/Masking/Vaxxing Fraud pushed and either swallowed or defeated by those who fought back. The Fake Church of the Global Secular State demands compliance and fealty as the head of the pantheon of gods. How the LDS, JWs, Muhammadans, and many others were infiltrated and swayed by the CoVid Cult is also a lesson to be studied. And let's be real; CoVid bioweapon flu did spread easily and did sicken and kill Christians who ignored the shut-downs and spacing/masking/vaxxing. It also killed Christians who complied with all of those things as well.
Some PCA churches ignored the mandates and continued services, albeit with the six foot spacing between participants. During the first few weeks of the plandemic, none of the congregants came to church, out of fear (not because they were pushed away by our pastor). The service attendees were our pastor, his wife, my wife, and me (streaming video to the folks at home).
That's right WP. you nailed it.
My estranged daughter in law is a “ Christian “. She visited at Christmas. I think she used my very expensive nasal spray prescription for brain damage. I have had tremors since. She’s jabbed. Her church encouraged it. I told my husband she can’t stay here next time because she’s vaccinated and shedding.
She’s also been “ cured “ of her bipolar disorder according to her. I saw things differently! Verbally abusive to her husband and ignored( iPad for a 3 year old) her adopted daughter unless she was showing her off
that's awful Rosalind. STAY STRONG!
I found a Christian counselor, short term, since she is determined to move to the area. She wanted to park her camper in the driveway while she has a house built. I can’t do that. Our house is accommodating my chronic inflammatory response syndrome . She has no idea what her father has done to accommodate my healing. & she destroyed so much progress in her ignorance and greed. It’s a challenge to handle it since i haven’t been able to forgive her yet. Forgiveness is crucial in my walk with Jesus.
Forgiveness isn't codependent. God calls us to repent before forgiveness. It doesn't lessen Gods love just how He deals with us and consequences are that. Forgiveness is a gift, bought, wrapped, prepared with love and anxious for the time to be given and ACCEPTED but repentance is the sign for the gift giving. Pray. Be ready. Be hopeful.
Thanks!
I’ve been listening to Derek Prince a lot, oldie.
repentance is important . & yes , stay hopeful!
I guess I'm a jerk, too, because I feel the same way - starting with pastors, priests, bishops and elders. Terrible, terrible witness.
Yes. Pathetic witnesses. They don't seem to be self reflecting though.
PRIDE
LIKE, Ryan