I wish I still had a TwiX account. Does Benz include nazi connections? The nazis that were brought here after WWII, that infiltrated the State Department and the CIA? Including the evil Bush family.
I don't recall seeing that but it wouldn't surprise me if he did.
One fascinating thing I learned from him was the competing factions in the CIA known as the Yankees (Ivy League Atlanticist foreign policy types) and the Cowboys (western based oil interests and defense contractors). These two factions go back to the fifties were often opposed as served as a counterbalance, keeping CIA power checked. However, they both saw Trump as such a threat that they joined forces which is why the Deep State is now so powerful. It's why you now see Obama foreign policy types (Yankees) and Cheney/Bush types (Cowboys) on the same side.
I did want to expound on my Shapiro comment. Shapiro acts as an unregistered agent of a foreign government IMO as he's made no secret Israel comes first. It's why all these Jewish neocons (Shapiro, Podhoretz, Charen, Kristol, etc.) all hate Trump even though he's a strong supporter of Israel. "America First" means Israel comes second. That's not good enough for these people as Israel must come first even if doing so harms America. They are quite open about this as Pat Buchanan pointed out thirty years ago.
I've found most people with a strong emotional attachment to Israel cannot view world events objectively, and don't act in the best interests of the US. As such, I tend to ignore what they say as I know it's emotional manipulation and not a reasoned argument. There are some with Jewish roots that are objective though, such as Mike Benz and Darren Beatty. They deserve our attention and encouragement.
IMO Shapiro is bought and paid for, an all-in neocon, which IMO means big gov't leftist. As best I can tell, he's a useful idiot for the Deep State. From where I sit, big government = leftism no matter the cultural leanings. (Yet another trick of our deep state: getting people to believe that policies that raise taxes/create inflation and expand the government are somehow "conservative" b/c they "support Israel" or "stick it to the libs.") So, from that lens, it's not surprising to me that he would back an authoritarian, big gov't, military program like the mRNA shots. IMO, he knew what he was doing and was dutifully earning his paycheck.
Roxanne, RE: Jesus the Messiah, Shapiro is too smart, as is Prager, to not know the truth. It must be the scales over their eyes. I continue praying for them both.
True that too. He’s too smart to not have bothered researching the train-wreck of synthetic mRNA. And even though it’s fun to watch him out debate the woksters, it freaks me out to hear him talk down about Jesus in debates with Christians.
I am in agreement, but there is more to the story than oil or Eastern Establishment delineations. There appears to be a Supra-Agency which appears to know where all the chess pieces are and just what levers have to be pulled and how far in order reassert control over an apparatus (Collective West) which has manifestly to the entire world gone berserk. I sense and see reversal, an over-arching quest to regain control and sanity, but how this is to play out is very much ongoing drama.
I agree that this thing of Israel is a huge stumbling block. But I will say the Israel Emperor for the first time in my memory has been exposed in his naked without cloths glory. And it is not a pretty sight. (Will the Idiot Church Pastorate ever get this score right? One wonders?)
Completely agree there is more to the story Dave, the Yankee and Cowboy thing was an explanation of the traditional rift in the Intelligence Community and it doesn't explain everything. What's interesting is that they both hate Trump so much they buried the hatchet after nearly seventy years.
The thing Benz really dwells on (which I think is right on the money) is that the elite have redefined "Democracy" to mean rule by institutions rather than rule by the people. In their mind these institutions that came about after WW2 (NATO, EU, IMF, etc.) are what promoted democracy. Now that people are getting fed up with them, the people deciding they no longer want them is "undemocratic". It's completely laughable, as it redefines democracy to mean subverting the will of the people. But that's their story and they are sticking too it.
Clearly Israel plays a huge part in all of this. IMO, one big reason Putin is so hated is that he doesn't give Israel deference but just treats it like any other country (as we should also). Also agree that Netanyahu's days are numbered, but I doubt what we get will be much better. There is a very broad streak of Jewish Supremacy right now in Israel as they have been whipped into a frenzy. What has changed is the rest of the world, and a huge part of the US, is getting really tired of this crap.
Oh I don't know. How about jingoism and ethic superiority promoted by sociopaths to justify the killing twenty times (and counting) the number of Palestinians compared to Israelis killed on Oct 7th?
I've never followed Shapiro but know of him. Chris Paul, on his podcast, always makes fun of him. Shapiro is a neocon shill for the deep state, imho, and gets paid BIG bucks for it. Has he acknowledged that Trump won in 2020 and the election was rigged? Or does he say, like all the UniParty traitors, "time to move on". No. it's time to fix the voter fraud and eliminate these corrupt politicians who have installed themselves.
That adds another element to understanding why this whole Trump situation has felt so different. And makes a lot of sense. We also need figure out how the UK fits into this. Clearly they have been playing a central role. My guess is that they are aligned with the Yankee/WEF side/EU.
We just found out that, yes, the Five Eyes nations DID collude to spy on the Trump campaign, and his admin, and participated in the attempts to frame him with the Russia hoax. That means there was foreign involvement in the overthrow of the President, which also means Trump had every right to claim America was attacked by enemies, domestic AND foreign. And that is the basis for his instituting the CoG, or Devolution, as many have recognized. Time will tell.
Of course WE all knew this years ago, but now there is more proof that they cannot deny. It is in the mainstream news, for a reason. The general public are still unaware of how bad this was, and how treasonous the deep state was then and is now.
Nailed it. I have one response to all of the "I stand with Israel/ Israel First " people on this platform and every other one. June 8th, 1967, USS Liberty . Did Iran attack that ship and kill 34 US sailors and wound another 171? Russia? Egypt? China? North Korea?
I'm sorry I clicked the link, should have known better.
Emotional manipulation from the anti-Jewish side (which is what that post was) is no better than being manipulated by the pro-Jewish side. Maybe we can actually use critical thinking here without succumbing to every demagogue out there?
One can make the argument that Israel's interests aren't aligned with US interests without trotting out every "Jews are evil" stereotype. And even if it's all true (I'm not saying that but making an argument) what does that say about us for having fallen for it? We must be a pretty stupid lot and frankly deserve to be lorded over.
People who are powerless and without accomplishment love to blame some invisible enemy as it removes the responsibility for their own lack of success. Plenty of us have done just fine and don't need to find some nefarious enemy to blame. What we are doing though, is trying to understand why actions that are so obviously contrary to US interests are being promoted. I can explain Shapiro's duplicitousness with resorting to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
It's this kind of stuff that gives the censorship zealots ammunition.
Of course not every Jew, not most in fact. But there does seem to be a heavy alliance. WEF, all Jewish. Many in top level positions in the White House, the same. All the covid vaccine company CEOs are too. Purdue Pharmaceutical, Oxycontin, resulted in a genocide. The same. Maybe ppl should stop being brainwashed into believing there isn’t a group of people who do repeated evil at the expense of the world. I don’t call those invisible. Only invisible to those brainwashed into anti-semitic BS! Many ppl are not a stupid lot but subjected to EVIL forces unaccountable, operating, unstoppable so far. I am going to delete it though bc I don’t care for some of the language and ideas.
I agree that there is some strange stuff there, and there are many aspects of the Talmudic Judaism that is really questionable. My concern was exactly what you mentioned in that the language and slurs used were demagogic, they were designed to provoke an emotional response in people rather than a reasoned response.
In my experience, I've found people that use language like this are acting in bad faith. They are trying to whip people into a frenzy rather than actually appealing to their intellect. In fact it's exactly what I despise about Shapiro, he routinely uses emotional language to tug at people's heart strings and/or guilt them into agreeing with him. He's a propagandist, as is the writer of that post.
If someone wants to explore some of the very real issues with Talmudic Judaism, then this *very long* article written by Ron Unz (who is ethnically Jewish) is a good place to start. It reviews the work of Israel Shahak (an Israeli university professor) who deconstructs the Talmud and how it affects Jewish thinking.
I forgot Soros reportedly has done a lot of damage to the US like funding many DA campaigns across the US to bring in progressive marxist types (which Fani Willis may be one of them). There are others too. Also, Zelensky, Ukraine? Now Israel wars? No wars when Trump was in office.
Thx Jeff for the link. Read the article. Informative...............and very painful/disturbing. Sad to learn of so much hatred of other humans on this sacred & God given planet of ours. Just so that Ron Unz (nor Israel Shahak) are not "singled out" as anti-semites, I'm also trying to learn more from other writers/critiques as well. Names possibly like Zev Zelenko, Jeffrey Sachs, Norman Finklestein (Titan of Truth and Justice), etc. Long way to go to have better comprehension.
I wish I still had a TwiX account. Does Benz include nazi connections? The nazis that were brought here after WWII, that infiltrated the State Department and the CIA? Including the evil Bush family.
I don't recall seeing that but it wouldn't surprise me if he did.
One fascinating thing I learned from him was the competing factions in the CIA known as the Yankees (Ivy League Atlanticist foreign policy types) and the Cowboys (western based oil interests and defense contractors). These two factions go back to the fifties were often opposed as served as a counterbalance, keeping CIA power checked. However, they both saw Trump as such a threat that they joined forces which is why the Deep State is now so powerful. It's why you now see Obama foreign policy types (Yankees) and Cheney/Bush types (Cowboys) on the same side.
I did want to expound on my Shapiro comment. Shapiro acts as an unregistered agent of a foreign government IMO as he's made no secret Israel comes first. It's why all these Jewish neocons (Shapiro, Podhoretz, Charen, Kristol, etc.) all hate Trump even though he's a strong supporter of Israel. "America First" means Israel comes second. That's not good enough for these people as Israel must come first even if doing so harms America. They are quite open about this as Pat Buchanan pointed out thirty years ago.
I've found most people with a strong emotional attachment to Israel cannot view world events objectively, and don't act in the best interests of the US. As such, I tend to ignore what they say as I know it's emotional manipulation and not a reasoned argument. There are some with Jewish roots that are objective though, such as Mike Benz and Darren Beatty. They deserve our attention and encouragement.
Yess! Shapiro has made me uncomfortable lately and you just nailed why.
I thought his cheerleading of the Covid shots showed he wasn’t that discerning. He should’ve at least had a more skeptical view imo.
IMO Shapiro is bought and paid for, an all-in neocon, which IMO means big gov't leftist. As best I can tell, he's a useful idiot for the Deep State. From where I sit, big government = leftism no matter the cultural leanings. (Yet another trick of our deep state: getting people to believe that policies that raise taxes/create inflation and expand the government are somehow "conservative" b/c they "support Israel" or "stick it to the libs.") So, from that lens, it's not surprising to me that he would back an authoritarian, big gov't, military program like the mRNA shots. IMO, he knew what he was doing and was dutifully earning his paycheck.
That makes sense.
Married to an MD....
That answers a lot Maggie, I didn't know that.
I don't trust anybody that talks that Fast ;-)
Roxanne, RE: Jesus the Messiah, Shapiro is too smart, as is Prager, to not know the truth. It must be the scales over their eyes. I continue praying for them both.
I am on the same page as you are.
Shapiro's wife simply believed the garbage spewed by Big HARMa... but they both seemed to realize their mistake late in the game.
They struggle with Jesus as the Messiah. I pray their eyes will be opened one day.
True that too. He’s too smart to not have bothered researching the train-wreck of synthetic mRNA. And even though it’s fun to watch him out debate the woksters, it freaks me out to hear him talk down about Jesus in debates with Christians.
I am in agreement, but there is more to the story than oil or Eastern Establishment delineations. There appears to be a Supra-Agency which appears to know where all the chess pieces are and just what levers have to be pulled and how far in order reassert control over an apparatus (Collective West) which has manifestly to the entire world gone berserk. I sense and see reversal, an over-arching quest to regain control and sanity, but how this is to play out is very much ongoing drama.
I agree that this thing of Israel is a huge stumbling block. But I will say the Israel Emperor for the first time in my memory has been exposed in his naked without cloths glory. And it is not a pretty sight. (Will the Idiot Church Pastorate ever get this score right? One wonders?)
Completely agree there is more to the story Dave, the Yankee and Cowboy thing was an explanation of the traditional rift in the Intelligence Community and it doesn't explain everything. What's interesting is that they both hate Trump so much they buried the hatchet after nearly seventy years.
The thing Benz really dwells on (which I think is right on the money) is that the elite have redefined "Democracy" to mean rule by institutions rather than rule by the people. In their mind these institutions that came about after WW2 (NATO, EU, IMF, etc.) are what promoted democracy. Now that people are getting fed up with them, the people deciding they no longer want them is "undemocratic". It's completely laughable, as it redefines democracy to mean subverting the will of the people. But that's their story and they are sticking too it.
Clearly Israel plays a huge part in all of this. IMO, one big reason Putin is so hated is that he doesn't give Israel deference but just treats it like any other country (as we should also). Also agree that Netanyahu's days are numbered, but I doubt what we get will be much better. There is a very broad streak of Jewish Supremacy right now in Israel as they have been whipped into a frenzy. What has changed is the rest of the world, and a huge part of the US, is getting really tired of this crap.
Whipped into a frenzy, you say? Now what could have done that, I wonder.
Oh I don't know. How about jingoism and ethic superiority promoted by sociopaths to justify the killing twenty times (and counting) the number of Palestinians compared to Israelis killed on Oct 7th?
What do you think it is?
I've never followed Shapiro but know of him. Chris Paul, on his podcast, always makes fun of him. Shapiro is a neocon shill for the deep state, imho, and gets paid BIG bucks for it. Has he acknowledged that Trump won in 2020 and the election was rigged? Or does he say, like all the UniParty traitors, "time to move on". No. it's time to fix the voter fraud and eliminate these corrupt politicians who have installed themselves.
That adds another element to understanding why this whole Trump situation has felt so different. And makes a lot of sense. We also need figure out how the UK fits into this. Clearly they have been playing a central role. My guess is that they are aligned with the Yankee/WEF side/EU.
We just found out that, yes, the Five Eyes nations DID collude to spy on the Trump campaign, and his admin, and participated in the attempts to frame him with the Russia hoax. That means there was foreign involvement in the overthrow of the President, which also means Trump had every right to claim America was attacked by enemies, domestic AND foreign. And that is the basis for his instituting the CoG, or Devolution, as many have recognized. Time will tell.
Five Eyes' role is old news.
Of course WE all knew this years ago, but now there is more proof that they cannot deny. It is in the mainstream news, for a reason. The general public are still unaware of how bad this was, and how treasonous the deep state was then and is now.
Yes, you are correct! Old news.
But most people are not familiar with the Devolution theory either.
Shapiro put his last nail in his coffin when he was virulently pro-vax, hurting both Israel and the US. What a moron.
Nailed it. I have one response to all of the "I stand with Israel/ Israel First " people on this platform and every other one. June 8th, 1967, USS Liberty . Did Iran attack that ship and kill 34 US sailors and wound another 171? Russia? Egypt? China? North Korea?
So true Jeff. You nailed it.
I'm sorry I clicked the link, should have known better.
Emotional manipulation from the anti-Jewish side (which is what that post was) is no better than being manipulated by the pro-Jewish side. Maybe we can actually use critical thinking here without succumbing to every demagogue out there?
One can make the argument that Israel's interests aren't aligned with US interests without trotting out every "Jews are evil" stereotype. And even if it's all true (I'm not saying that but making an argument) what does that say about us for having fallen for it? We must be a pretty stupid lot and frankly deserve to be lorded over.
People who are powerless and without accomplishment love to blame some invisible enemy as it removes the responsibility for their own lack of success. Plenty of us have done just fine and don't need to find some nefarious enemy to blame. What we are doing though, is trying to understand why actions that are so obviously contrary to US interests are being promoted. I can explain Shapiro's duplicitousness with resorting to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
It's this kind of stuff that gives the censorship zealots ammunition.
Of course not every Jew, not most in fact. But there does seem to be a heavy alliance. WEF, all Jewish. Many in top level positions in the White House, the same. All the covid vaccine company CEOs are too. Purdue Pharmaceutical, Oxycontin, resulted in a genocide. The same. Maybe ppl should stop being brainwashed into believing there isn’t a group of people who do repeated evil at the expense of the world. I don’t call those invisible. Only invisible to those brainwashed into anti-semitic BS! Many ppl are not a stupid lot but subjected to EVIL forces unaccountable, operating, unstoppable so far. I am going to delete it though bc I don’t care for some of the language and ideas.
I agree that there is some strange stuff there, and there are many aspects of the Talmudic Judaism that is really questionable. My concern was exactly what you mentioned in that the language and slurs used were demagogic, they were designed to provoke an emotional response in people rather than a reasoned response.
In my experience, I've found people that use language like this are acting in bad faith. They are trying to whip people into a frenzy rather than actually appealing to their intellect. In fact it's exactly what I despise about Shapiro, he routinely uses emotional language to tug at people's heart strings and/or guilt them into agreeing with him. He's a propagandist, as is the writer of that post.
If someone wants to explore some of the very real issues with Talmudic Judaism, then this *very long* article written by Ron Unz (who is ethnically Jewish) is a good place to start. It reviews the work of Israel Shahak (an Israeli university professor) who deconstructs the Talmud and how it affects Jewish thinking.
https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-oddities-of-the-jewish-religion/
I forgot Soros reportedly has done a lot of damage to the US like funding many DA campaigns across the US to bring in progressive marxist types (which Fani Willis may be one of them). There are others too. Also, Zelensky, Ukraine? Now Israel wars? No wars when Trump was in office.
Thx Jeff for the link. Read the article. Informative...............and very painful/disturbing. Sad to learn of so much hatred of other humans on this sacred & God given planet of ours. Just so that Ron Unz (nor Israel Shahak) are not "singled out" as anti-semites, I'm also trying to learn more from other writers/critiques as well. Names possibly like Zev Zelenko, Jeffrey Sachs, Norman Finklestein (Titan of Truth and Justice), etc. Long way to go to have better comprehension.
That was heavy... I need a walk in the sunshine to disinfect myself....
And there have always been rumors Obama’s mother was CIA.