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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

“Peter McCullough has now come all the way over to questioning not just covid jabs — but all childhood vaccines.”

I believe anyone who began this journey by questioning the COVID injections alone will ultimately arrive at the same inevitable conclusion. I know I did.

That’s why the media, the government, the agencies, the education system, medical schools, and other instruments of pharmacological indoctrination deploy all-saturating propaganda, social conditioning, groupthink, and milieu control—all to keep you from simply looking.

They can’t defend against the facts presented in books like “Dissolving Illusions” and “Turtles All the Way Down,” so they get you to avert your own eyes by stigmatizing the questioners, critical thinkers, doctors, scientists, and researchers. It is astonishing how effectively blinding the threat of expulsion from the in-group is when paired with lifelong immersion in a nearly universal religious belief in vaccines.

Once the scales fall away, though, there’s no going back. And that’s why information control is their most powerful weapon—but also one that can be detonated with a single red pill.

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Annie's avatar

Agree 💯. Just say no to the big Harma racket. Take an active interest in your own personal health and well being. Maybe look to the Amish or the way our grandparents or great grandparents lived for guidance or inspiration. Farm to table. Simple living. Give thanks to the Lord for all our blessings. God bless you all. 🙏 ❤️✝️

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aj's avatar

incidentally, the Amish did not social distance or take any precautions thru the pandemic, they let it rip, so it was done and over with them in a couple weeks.

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J Boss's avatar

The Amish COVID joke...

One Amish man talking to his neighbor. "Why is the pandemic not affecting us?"

His neighbor replied, "We have no TVs."

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nancylee's avatar

how true how true.

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Annie's avatar

Going to Lancaster County PA was what kept my sanity during the scamdemic. In Eastern chester county pa it was and still is covidians.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

So sorry. 😢

Yes, Lancaster County, PA, God’s country, the Garden Spot ! We’ve lived here for 35 years now and enjoyed every moment. Well, that’s an exaggeration, but not much.

We’ve been blessed to live in some great places (and escape some before things got bad): Main Line Philadelphia (wouldn’t want to live there now), Appleton, WI(ditto), Wild Wonderful West Virginia (ditto again). It has been a pleasure to practice amongst the farmers, country folk, and Amish.

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SoManyQuestions's avatar

Did you know our beloved doctor, Frank Noonan, who also loved his practice amongst the Amish?

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Mine was in New Holland.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

No I don’t believe I did. where was his office?

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

I live close to the swamp, in Northern VA, and did a long weekend in Lancaster PA in summer 2021 after RFK Jr had spoken to the Amish. Life changing. A few months later I got fired from my Beltway Bandit job at a large government contractor for refusing to take the jab.

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Annie's avatar

Hopefully you didn't suffer too many injustices for refusing the vaxx. At least you know you were right to refuse.

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Garden Lover's avatar

The same here in So Cal.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Come on over and let me know when you arrive--we can meet at a Lancaster county eatery, Annie!!

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Annie's avatar

I will.

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Sharon's avatar

there's a LOT of work involved in that "simple living" that I'm not sure most modern "englishers" would enjoy.

my forbears were Mennonite and Quakers.

the work never stops. you will make your way by the sweat of your brow daily

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Annie's avatar

Agree. You got to start somewhere. Small steps will lead to more. Everyone needs to decide what works for them. 1st thing I would suggest is if all possible support the local farmer and not the big conglomerates. A small garden like fresh herbs etc. 🥰

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Garden Lover's avatar

But haven’t you heard? Home gardens create more CO2 than the mega farms. 🙄

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

We need more CO2; it is plant food and the world is currently at or near the historic & prehistoric low point of CO2. Much less & the plants will start to die (probably not, but if the left can hyperventilate, then, by God, so can I!).

Virtually everything you read in the popular press is wrong and a lot of it they are lying about.

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Garden Lover's avatar

100%. It’s hard to read sarcasm in comments, but I was being completely sarcastic. There have been many epochs with much higher amounts of CO2 in the atmosphere. Higher CO2 means larger plants. Larger plants leads to more food. More food equals more prosperity for more people who are healthier. How could this pose a problem? Not for you nor I, but the “elites” who want depopulation? More people to try to control.

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SadieJay's avatar

People used to work all day in their gardens and on their farms, growing, canning, tending to make it through the winter. Now people go to a job to get money to BUY food. And it is sketchy food most of the time, produced on such a huge scale that, by the time it gets on the dinner table, it doesn't even resemble what is started out to be.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

That's the world that I remember fondly - we had NO TV until mid 1950's and there was plenty to do - playing the "victrola" at night and sometimes my Dad would get out his well-played acoustic guitar and I would sing and dance along to "You Are My Sunshine" and "Over the Rainbow".

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SadieJay's avatar

I still sing that to my grandkids. That sounds lovely. I am glad to have the memories of being a kid with no devices. Just a Saturday morning cartoon. The rest of the time we just were kids.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Making mudpies and pretending they were "t bone steaks" in our sandbox - playing "dress up" with our Mom's castaway dresses and shoes - no video games, no Barbie dolls--and no drag queen story hours either!!

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Annie's avatar

I remember singing "You are my sunshine" too. 🥰

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Precious memories--right, Annie?

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BeBravata's avatar

Yes, and most often, it made better people too. Hard working men and women showing their families crafts, trades and a moral compass.

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Colleen Rivest's avatar

Their (generation of) hard physical labor combined with fresh, non processed foods kept their bodies healthier and far longer. Fresh air, sunshine, Godly morals, character and families all good for the soul🌞🙏❤️

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aj's avatar

my father's were too. We in the modern world waste so much time on technology, our homes, clothing, and literature/other media diversions.

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Oma's avatar

...as I sit here reading about “simple living” on my iPad and nodding my head, yes! 🧐

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FGB3's avatar

True dat.

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Paige Green's avatar

We have some acreage that I’d like to do just that with, but I’d have to retire and we’re not there financially yet. It was rough keeping up on yard work last year when I had a complete dislocation of my shoulder (I do most of it usually).

Imagine if I’d had a whole farm!

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Sharon's avatar

I've been in that position. folks showed up to clean and feed for me. and I've repayed by helping those same folks when they were "in a hard spot". I'm thankful to be blessed with decent folks for neighbors.

we didn't farm per se, but lots of horses, lots of work. had to get done every day, no matter what.

I'm thankful

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

Amen. Agreed.

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Beth Graham's avatar

I started questioning with the chicken pox vaccine. Why when most people live through the virus? Seemed to me that if the dis-ease had a greater degree of being life threatening I’d feel differently. Then the flu shots & Gardasil. Seems like they are vaccines of connivence. Why not have the occasional flu and put the immune system to work so it becomes stronger? So when Covid inoculations came around and by 1/21 it was know then hidden that they didn’t stop transmission plus a new technology it seemed like a hard “no”.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

The older you get without getting what we used to call the usual childhood diseases, the more likely you are to have a severe case and to get complications (e.g., chickenpox pneumonia). The trade off will be for those who decide to go natural, the small risk of that vs. the risk of life long chronic disease or disability such as diabetes, asthma or Autism. Being past that stage in life & no grandchildren, I know if I had it to do over I would not vaccinate. Period.

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Peace's avatar

I am proof that being older when catching a childhood disease does NOT necessarily mean more severe case. I caught chickenpox at almost 50 from my child. I know I did not have it earlier in life as I had the titer done when pregnant and I showed no indication of prior disease. It was a super mild case (had to go to the doc to verify that's what it was) and I sailed right through it. Also, if we get these childhood diseases we can have lifelong immunity vs. needing toxic boosters throughout life. And finally, "The following is a list of studies that found childhood infections reduce cancer – the second biggest killer of people in the world (right behind heart disease)." https://thedrswolfson.com/do-childhood-infections-prevent-cancer/

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

You are right, of course; generalizations are just that; however it is possible that you have had a mild case as young child, a few pox in your hair, and never were around chickenpox to boost your immune títere for when you were tested, and your titer was just below the threshold, and that was the reason for your mild case. There are more accurate (but expensive & therefore not routinely done tests). Still your explanation is most likely correct, but never say never in medicine.

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Sam's avatar

I was working in the lab in my early 20's and a 39 year old man got chickenpox and was in the ICU because the lesions had gotten into his lungs and then he went into DIC and died after a month. This case has stayed with me my entire life because of how horrible it was to see the doctors doing everything they could to save him. I’m still traumatized.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

That sounds horrible. I have seen chickenpox pneumonia, but not as bad as that!

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Leslie J Pennington's avatar

I heard a British doctor talking about how many mumps outbreaks there are in college dorms. Likely, many of those who get it as an adult end up sterile - both men and women.

Of note, I used to be pro-vaccine. I have deafness caused by measles prior to a year old. Now I’m not so sure.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

It has been well known that there is a risk of mumps orchitis if you don't get mumps until you are in adolescence for decades. Before there was a mumps vaccine, this was rare, as almost everybody got mumps as a child and got natural immunity that was likely reinforced with circulating mumps virus in the community causing subclinical exposure or infection and therefore boosted the immunity. The outbreaks of mumps in college dorms is the result of waning vaccine immunity, and another reason to abandon the half century to century vaccination project as a public health enterprise, IMHO.

I like you, used to be pro-vaccine. Now I am not.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Contracting an unpleasant but non-fatal disease is what I think of as a natural vaccine. It's what should have happened with the covid vaccine the U.S. paid China to manufacture.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Kinda like national suicide. Thanks, Fauci.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

yup, and I think we have crossed that line.

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J Boss's avatar

Mmhh, me thinks this is part of the vaccine gas lighting program. If your immune system and you are healthy, the risk is no different than as a child or maybe even less. The added risk comes from catching the disease with less able immune system and response.

Never got flu vaccine. Last had the flu 2-3 decades ago, and I don't recall it being that bad. This, despite caring for kids and spouse with flu half dozen times.

I believe the risk relates to your health, nothing more.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

No, Jim, not so for many viral diseases. Chickenpox pneumonia is not more common in people at the peak of life and also in pregnancy. For many infections, viral particularly, the severity of the disease is related to the body’s excessive immune response to the infection. Examples are dengue fever which is worse with subsequent infections often and is the reason why there has not been a successful safe vaccine developed (even by Bill Gates’ pernicious criteria). That is also the reason for some of the severe morbidity and mortality with COVID, granted that the majority of the mortality was because of lack of early treatment for those at risk and inappropriate treatment later on in the course of the illness (ventilators) combined with lack of and inadequate doses of steroids, no use of high dose IV vitamin C, and not using antibiotics when indicated as well as other detailed treatments that Dr Mengele, I mean Fauci proscribed.

Your reaction is one of the unfortunate consequences of my profession’s response and treatment during COVID. The party line/standard care was so completely wrong, the doctors’ and hospitals’ care of the patients so callus and unethical that huge segments of the population do not, will not, and won’t ever trust doctors and the system ever again. The response is deserved.

Unfortunately, there are some things that medicine has learned over the years and some of us even remembered and still remember them. Problem is that you all don’t know which things those are, nor who of us is not captured.

It is almost as if they planned it to be part of the takedown of our society. Nah, couldn’t be.

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J Boss's avatar

The way you replied to me is how I've always imagined doctors would do so. Its easy to forget most doctors were living through the hysteria as both providers threatened by organizations and potential patients fearing infection/death.

And you nailed my biggest concern going forward: how do I know which doctor to trust that can work through MY medical issue?

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

I left for dinner and can't recall what I had typed, but I would say that you should find an independent doc (not employed by a big system, so he/she can give you independent advice not pressured by the system.). The FLCCC web site (flccc.net) has lists of docs who are independent and have stood up to the pressure. BTW, where do you live, I may be able to give you some advice.

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J Boss's avatar

Thank you for correcting me. One of the reasons I state my opinions publicly is that often a much wiser person will politely educate me. I appreciate it.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Thank you for your response and your appreciation. Blessings.

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N Springer's avatar

Definitely deserved. They killed my brother in law and my friend’s mother with their ridiculous lack of early treatment and hospital protocols.

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

I am a nurse and I wrote about this in my one Substack publication if you care to read it.

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Karmy's avatar

Wow! Wonderful synopsis. I enjoyed reading it. May God bless you and keep you in His loving arms.

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Momcat's avatar

I always thought the MMR & chicken pox vaccines were to make sure mom didn't miss work with a sick child because it would put a kink in the welfare queen's inability to get her payment.

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Michelle's avatar

That was true for chickenpox. Not sure for MMR, though I wouldn’t be surprised.

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liz's avatar

oh right, because the "welfare queen " is your real enemy, not the Billionaires and Big Pharma and Ag interests that have captured our government and agencies.

GOOD THINKING!

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nancylee's avatar

divide and conquer. wonder how long it will take people to notice?

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Leslie J Pennington's avatar

I am convinced the chicken pox vaccine, in particular, is a leaky vaccine. I know of multiple children (mine included) who have gotten it after being jabbed. And look at how many young people (in their 20s) now get shingles! It used to be an old folks’ disease.

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ILoveherbs's avatar

And we were repeatedly re-exposed (ie boosted) by children around us with the virus. Now we get Shingles instead.

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Kat D's avatar

My ex got it back in the late 80’s and was under 30.

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Toffeepud's avatar

We don't have the chickenpox jab on the childhood roster in the UK, but moves are afoot to shove it in. However since covid, rates of childhood vaccinations especially MMR, have plummeted to an all time low. They aren't mandatory in the UK, just heavily pushed. I didn't even question them, despite being of an age (I had my boys at 38 and 40) when I didn't have any cos the programme didn't exist until the 90s. However they don't have anything now, they didn't have the covid jabs, or flu or Gardasil. I've read that Gardasil has a horrific safety record - why would I put my boys at risk of paralysis?

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Michelle's avatar

Yes, Gardasil was the biggest scam, until covid...

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RunningLogic's avatar

Hep B also especially for newborn babies!!

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Michelle's avatar

Definitely. I have yet to hear of a newborn who is already an IV drug user or prostitute...

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

My husband, a physician, asked one of the heads of Peds why they were immunizing newborns with Hep B.... "we don't know if the parents are IV drug users or prostitutes..." 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

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liz's avatar

yes, so dangerous!

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Beth Graham's avatar

100%

Someone in San Francisco who got flu shot indoctrination at work on a phone call with me (in Baltimore) asked, “why don’t you get a flu shot?”. I explained about toxins in the shot and he responded, “but you need to do it for others”. I wasn’t as awake then to realize the roots of this response.

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GG's avatar

Reading that made me tear up.

As I tell everyone all the time, my first child died from his DPT shot. I've been a RABID anti-vaxxer ever since. And I've been angry that my child died. So angry. But COVID gave me a different perspective, because I don't know what camp I would have been in if my child hadn't died. My subsequent children were never vaccinated and my whole family, with two exceptions, refused to be vaccinated (both would have lost their livelihoods if they refused.)

The awakening that is taking place is very gratifying to me. I cannot overstate this. I'm sorry it is coming about because so many people were injured and killed, but I'm glad it's coming about! In a way, it's an answer to prayer.

All I can say is, the Lord works in mysterious ways. And there is a lot of comfort in that.

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MKnight's avatar

I can sympathize with this. My damaged kids, while still here, are a walking warning. Most (if not almost all) of my family refused to participate in the Covid experiment because I was so vocal about it. I think I would have silently gone along with everything that was pushed, if I didn’t have painful experiences to point me to the truth before it all went down. And I agree - it sucks that it had to be that way to wake people up. But I’m in complete awe at the awakening taking place, and I don’t take it at all for granted.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Oh my goodness, GG. What an unfathomable loss—and what extraordinary strength it takes to transmute it into wisdom and healing 🍂🍃🤗

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MKnight's avatar

A lot of us, through painful autism journeys, already doubted everything pharma and doctors say. I went into covid knowing almost everything they said or pushed was a truth mixed with many lies. I don’t actually care about TWC and all the crying about its deep state ties. Just like I don’t care if RFK Jr ever vocalized his opinion about jailing climate deniers. I. Don’t. Care. What matters is the dismantling of the vaccine cartels so we actually HAVE a next generation that can function. The level of harm I can see around me, that I learned to see from the harms that happened in my own house, is absolutely breathtaking.

Just like, as much as some hate Trump and blame him for the Covid jab (and we kind of should), I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Trump went into office promising autism families that he would look into autism and vaccines. He didn’t (publicly) do that. But at the end of his presidency, he shoved the vaccine cartel into the sunlight (by participating in it), and effectively sunk it without ever appearing like that was his intention. He did more to break the scales away from people’s eyes on vaccines than decades of medical freedom advocacy by people like (one of my heroes) RFK Jr. You don’t have to agree with the tactic. But it worked.

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Erica's avatar

Interesting thoughts on Trump/Warp Speed. It does make you wonder, right? Sometimes people will not believe until shown.

I have met McCullough - he is a righteous and dignified man. He is one of the good guys.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Margaret Anna Alice - hear, hear!

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daverkb's avatar

And because of Covid, the entire World including populations in the Perp Lands now question EVERYTHING as being a Babel of Lies perpetrated by an Everest of Evil.

I see things as unraveling. And I see the United States and its tawdry Empire as being in a state approximate to Spain at the time of the Spanish American war. I suspect 'unraveling' won't be pretty. And additionally, there are economic and financial/central crimes which also must must taken into account. Ya know! For 'inclusivity'!

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Wait until the peeps figure out that fiat currency is just a mental intermediary so they don't recognize it's not money...it's a financial weapon.

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daverkb's avatar

That is a good way of putting. Additionally, the late Richard Russell of The Dow Letters fame always referred to imaginary bank script (FRNs) as Fantasy Money. Also a very accurate term.

Increasingly, I see fiat as being nothing more than a bio-weapon. The 'bio' part of the weaponization targets flesh both mental and physical labor. We are not offered money of substance with store of value. We are defrauded by a flim-flam 'product' which no living man can define. It is an assault on our corporeal selves and that of Family with the family being an institution ordained by God.

Fiat! Imaginary Fantasy Money: so, will the masses figure it out? Or will they be beguiled by yet another bait and switch? And believe me, bait and switch is already in the works ... and the new multi-generational narrative is already being trotted out and beta tested in key forums.

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FGB3's avatar

I would change that to "Spain at the time of the Spanish CIVIL War".

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daverkb's avatar

Actual, the reference is to Empire, and not the red versus brown/black shirt thing. The Spanish American War was when Spain lost the last vestiges of it once vast empire. You may draw the tread from there.

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Michael Framson's avatar

Time to put an alligator in every Congressman's and Senator's office and tell them alligators have been in your office all this time, you are just recognizing it for the first time. Let them live with an alligator for a while to get a sense what its like living with a child with severe autism. And no, alligators are alligators and not just a little quirky reptile. Autism and the other neuro-disabilities ruins lives.

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The facts become more and more obvious when we start looking. These vaccines were not created by people who care about human life.

For just one example, look at the chicken pox (varicella) growth medium and process ingredients: https://vaccines.procon.org/vaccine-ingredients-and-manufacturer-information/#varicella

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Karen's avatar

chicken pox vax is the worst. Made with unborn baby kidney cells. Let's get that shot so mom doesn't miss any work at the widget factory.

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WP William's avatar

Truly Progressive Reproductive Rights should include doctor assisted end of life care for the Autistic and health-compromised minors. C'mon Coloradicalo Democrats YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO! Pro-Life=HATE. Pro-Science based Parental Rights=comfortable, funded, destigmatized life ending care for the suffering

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Karen's avatar

My family in CO are very happy that they banned plastic bags. Don't seem to mind the 9 months of abortion and kill the sick and old. Priorities.

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WP William's avatar

yes, plastic bags are for unsellable post-abortion uterine contents or mercy killing only; like in the remake of The Manchurian Candidate.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I’m sure they loved having all of those disposable masks kicking around the parking lots to “keep us safe” though 🙄

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Karen's avatar

That doesn't seem to bother them. They love the masks. They are worried about "microplastics" in the bags but don't seem to mind the plastic in the masks that is now in their lungs.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yeah I didn’t think so. Funny how they are so selective in their outrage about plastics pollution 🙄

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WP William's avatar

By the way; Democrat Wolf Pack 2- West Slope Calves 0 current score

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Canada's on it.

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Garden Lover's avatar

This is the truth. One of my friends posted a meme that said:

I just want some credible articles to back up my conspiracy theory. Can’t find any. Must be censorship.

The meme is mocking people who question MSM and the government. Ironically, or not, this is the truth. It is complete censorship, and it’s been going on for decades.

When I first became pregnant with my child (now nearly 20), I had this gut feeling not to vaccinate them. So, I started the journey of doing research into them in 2003. More often than not, when I don’t trust my gut, I get into trouble. Had I not trust it this time, my child would be dead because, when they were three, they started having seizures (that we eventually healed by 8 years old.) They have been off the seizure meds since 2011. They have had zero other health issues. They even got chicken pox and came through with flying colors.

It’s great to see more people waking up.

By the way, they’ve been calling the unvaccinated plague spreaders and their children plague spreading spawn since about 2007. (Probably longer.)

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Kathy Sincere's avatar

Margaret Anna Alice - your post on "Mistakes Were NOT Made" is my all-time favorite. Thank you. https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/mistakes-were-not-made-an-anthem?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

What a sweet note, Kathy, and I'm so grateful to know you appreciate it!

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Excellent!

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LadyLiberty's avatar

I've watch Amazing Polly's "expose" on The Wellness Company. I like Polly and have watched many of her eye-opening videos over the last 5 years. That said, her point about TWC is that the founders have shady ties. Fair enough and well documented. However, she uses that to disparage Dr McCullough (who is not a founder of TWC) and anyone who advertises TWC products (which includes many of the warriors who put their careers on the line like Naomi Wolff and so many others). These people lost their main sources of income due to speaking out about masks, lockdowns and the jabs. TWC sells the supplements and medications used by McCullough , Kory and many other docs to treat illness. They are vital parts of a medical emergency kit. If the products were sold on Amazon that would make them credible? There are forces at play working very hard to disenfranchise all of these very good people from each other and to place seeds of doubt in our minds about these people.

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FGB3's avatar

Good points and make sense M'Lady.

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Michelle's avatar

Yes, it seems that perhaps that these medical freedom warriors just weren’t discerning enough in who they got involved with. I can certainly see how needing to replace lost income could cause one to be less discerning.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

What if they're medical experts, and not detectives or investigators? What credentials are required for retailers who sell a product? Does CVS get the same scrutiny? How about Walgreen's? I'll bet if we dug deeply enough, we'd find someone with shady motives involved in everything we've ever bought.

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Runemasque's avatar

It would be a more helpful comment if some details of the points which are questionable were shared. A link would also help, as I suspect possibly not many will follow through on the references.

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MOMinator's avatar

It was the giant MCCULLOUGH FOUNDATION sign in the background of a couple of his interviews that made me wary… not completely writing him off, because he is and has done good and seems to be speaking truth.

Also, our enemy benefits from us being divided, so I want to avoid jumping to conclusions either way. There are likely things that we aren’t aware of. I pray for all our freedom fighters. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

I like your take on that, MOM. We’re so used to sketchy folks monetizing anything and everything that we’re now suspicious of capitalism in general, and that’s not good news. If McCullough’s product is good, he should promote it. If he makes money, well, good for him and long may he stay in business.

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SadieJay's avatar

You are so right. They want us looking at everything that divides us. Even if we didn't know about it. There is only so much I can know and I believe what I believe from the deep down feeling of peace I have, despite all the crap they are throwing at us to see what sticks. No fear just discernment.

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MOMinator's avatar

Exactly.

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Jonathan Murphy's avatar

Dissolving Illusions is the first reference so please read it on kindle.

Turtles All The Way Down is another.

Look up the Simpson Wood meeting in Georgia of AMA, CDC, AAP,etc and transcripts for the conspiracy aspect of jabs with their entire ingredients like adjuvants and preservatives etc.

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Susan Clack's avatar

I got yer six, James…I love Polly, got ‘er on Speed Dial…here y’all go!

https://rumble.com/v4hhuou-twc-red-flags-the-expanding-narrative-network.html

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SteelJ's avatar

Thanks. Very thought-provoking. On one hand, Bongino and others have made it clear they believe in creating an alternative marketplace so all the money we spend doesn't go to the dark side. So far, so good. But, why does a drill-down reveal so many unsavory links?

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

Kudos; was just about to look for it!

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I think you just proved to yourself it might be easier to go on and link up the article :) But thanks for the correction.

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STH's avatar

I live at least an hour from good medical care (if there is such a thing) and I for one am quite thankful for my Wellness Kit and all the meds you get for a very fair price. How do we know you’re not controlled opposition James?

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Heather LibertyCricket's avatar

Read the links. It is sketch. And how has McCullough not been canceled and his reach so great but others who've been in the movement for years are still so silenced? Or those that spoke out during covid still silenced? Just a question to ponder... he's doing good, but... why and how and is there a reason? Who is in charge of the supplement supply chain and creation of the supps?

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Dr. McCullough has certainly been cancelled, unfairly, and by those who know better. Why does there have to be a nefarious motive? Have you spoken with his staff to seek details about supplements? It's so easy to criticize -- much easier than doing something constructive yourself.

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Leslie M's avatar

Link to Kristin Elizabeth's article

https://beyondthemaze.substack.com/p/the-wellness-company

Also another link to a roundtable discussion about the article with Matthew Crawford

https://rumble.com/v3zna67-the-wellness-company-round-table-w-kristin-elizabeth-and-liam-sturgess.html

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Truth 101's avatar

Thanks for the link Leslie. I see that James M edited his original comment to include the substack author he intended to cite. I read the article and thought the response by Brian O'Shea (Naomi Wolfe's husband) summed it up best. Here is the first paragraph from his long response: Brian O'Shea:

Investigate Everything with Bri…

Nov 27, 2023

"I'm sorry...but I've read this article a few times now and a few things fit into the "so what?" category...and more. One of the major reasons I have this position about this article is because you mainly cite Legacy Media sources (honestly I was quite floored that you cited USA Today and Vice...might as well cite HHS, Pfizer and the Biden Administration). You also only target major voices in the health freedom movement and then make an abrupt shift to Tim Ballard (and even throw in some Blackwater for good measure....but if you knew more about private security and contracting you would probably be shrugging your shoulders while reading this article too). The problem is that I fail to see with what are you targeting them with...and, more importantly, why you are targeting them. (Actually, why do you only target people with your writing that are opposite of the ruling Left?) But those are questions for another conversation...let's stick to this one."

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

I would not be a bit surprised to learn that Brian O'Shea has stock in TWC.

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Leslie M's avatar

Naomi Wolf advertises TWC on Daily Clout

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FGB3's avatar

Link is on every page of Zerohedge. The Wellness Company is a big supporter with an ad repeated.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

It helps to drop a few links since you've brought up the point and are familiar with it.

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Fred's avatar

Yep, because solid references that question the narrative simply do not show up on searches. And now, many links have been disabled.

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CathyRN's avatar

No one's asking you to do their homework. Just post yours.

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CH's avatar

I totally get that but it sure makes your remark questionable when you can't post a link. I've posted links in the comments before because it is easy for me to find the article I was commenting about since I know exactly what I am looking for. Other times I have the link already saved so that I can back up what I've said in the comments and want to spread that info to others.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

I'm trying to do your work for you. Am a regular reader of Absurdistan and can't find anything in her archive on TWC. Will look for Polly's now.

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¡Andrew the Great!'s avatar

We *don't* trust you. That's why we asked for links.

I get the homework point generally, however, you already know what you're talking about so it would be far more efficient for you to provide direct, specific links than for us to try to navigate Google or Duck, etc., and never know for sure if we're finding what it is you're alleging.

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liz's avatar

forget google. NO ONE should ever use that spy machine.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

James M: you’re the one who brought it up, you need to back up your statement.

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Lil M.'s avatar

Exactly... Thank you for the heads up. Good to know and will keep it in mind, as I am going about my normal routine.

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Loretta Thomas's avatar

I watched part of amazing Polly. We are all ultimately responsible for our own health care choices. I welcome a rival healthcare system but as with many of mankind’s attempts to do the right thing, it could be recruited for nefarious purposes. We shall always have government and there will always be a “club” influencing our lives and directing and seeking to profit. As long as we have amazing Polly types we can hope to see trouble coming, but will we listen? As long as we have health care champions who are ethical attempts to mess up humanity will be thwarted , and I do not have a problem with allowing those professionals to profit financially. However, I will still research and make my own health decisions.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

Hear, hear.

In case you're not aware, many have come to the conclusion that even the ivermectin/hydroxychloroquine suppression was part of the psyop, to reinforce the idea that "early treatment" was a needed thing against a fake "deadly novel virus."

I wouldn't doubt that for a minute.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

For most people early treatment is not necessary; the vast majority as a matter of fact; however I will bet you dollars to , well not doughnuts, given inflation, but dollars to doggie treats, that most people who get a cold (aka non-weaponized Coronavirus, aka non-COVID COVID) will take some kind of pharmaceutical, be it OTC cold & flu remedies—which don’t work anyway, or leftover antibiotics that they have lying around, AND if they are not remarkably better in 3-5 days are on the phone for an appointment or Rx for an antibiotic or flu test.

At least HCQ &/or IVM shortens infectiousness, decreases symptom severity and duration, and allows quicker return to work (except for the nonsensical return to work rules employed economy wide—excepting some rationality for healthcare workers).

I took, and still take IVM prophylacticly so as not to get sick, miss work & not to be available to my patients.

No one in the alternative medical freedom movement is forcing anyone to do anything & in particular they are not recommending anything that they are not &/or have not taken themselves.

Remember also that many of these people have lost jobs, careers, i.e., livelihoods and many are disabled from vaccine injury. They have bills to pay, families to support.

So get off your high horses and give Dr. Peter & Dr. Paul a break.

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I just rewatched one of her reports from Mar 2020 in real time while this was playing out. It’s remarkable how she tied the organizations together and how they connect to the “COV task force” members.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/RSfP8sXtMbk/

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Truth 101's avatar

I read Elizabeth Nickson's substack posts and have not seen any references from her to "deep state ties" by The Wellness Company. I'm not familiar with Amazing Polly.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

Same (re Nickson) and my archive search brought up nothing.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

She produces investigation videos and covered COV during the first year. https://www.amazingpolly.net/medical-mafia.html

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

He's an utterly brilliant cardiologist, with, I imagine, a photographic memory, and he is adding his voice to thousands of voices. I don't think all of intelligence is necessarily part of the deep state, or if it is, there may be factions, and double or triple agents.. RFK jr. says he would separate the wheat from the chaff to that point. Anyone who is public has no doubt had pressures exerted on them, that would be inevitable, so if they are not dead, I think one should always think about the possibility that not everything anyone says can be totally trusted, but labeling people, painting them as all bad or all good or messiahs (unless they actually are the Messiah) is a false way to think too. We need to use our common sense and intuition, which all of us have, and he doesn't make the hair on the back of my neck stand up, as some do.

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OnTheJump's avatar

The Wellness Company may be wonderful - but they put me off by always hawking their products. That feels odd to me , all circumstances considered.

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

I always say the revolution will be commodified and merchandized! It is hard not to expect poverty-stricken sainthood from dissidents, but people really have to raise money and make a living and fund campaigns. Our idols have clay feet and that's a good thing to know. I was just this morning thinking of Oscar Schindler, and how sometimes it is someone's flaws and character deficiencies that allow them to do good works in the world.

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Bill Jarett's avatar

We are not a communist country yet. Getting there...

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Toobguy47's avatar

I tried their spike protein product. Their sales and management system in place was lousy. Billed before they had product ship, no explanation, etc. I finally canceled my subscription with them. I will not use them, not because their products aren’t good, but because their processing of orders sucks. No trust and I won’t waste my time with them.

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Michelle's avatar

You can find nattokinase and bromelaine (sp?) from other supplement companies.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

You know, I am not sure that you are to be trusted, who knows what ties you have. I will take the Drs. Peter and Paul over you any day.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Has anyone got an IRA? 401K? Bank accounts? I'll bet you have ties to the deep state you don't even know about. Who has the time to track every product you buy to the genesis of its raw materials, supply lines, distributors, advertisers, banks, investors, etc.? That methodology would leave me with little spare time, if any, and for what? Would I avoid something I need because the retailer has an account in Citibank or Wells Fargo? Get serious.

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You are right. I was responding to what's his name impugning the motives of TWC people. People who live in glass houses ...... (even if they are covered with blinds or shutters.

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Gbro's avatar

I kinda thought that too when he was pushing paxlovid. Apparently he received over $300k from Pfizer in 2020.

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Bgagnon's avatar

Links please.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Iran got this one right...

On January 8, 2021, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, claimed that vaccines made in the US or the UK are “completely untrustworthy. It's not unlikely they would want to contaminate other nations.”

https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/01/12/iran-khameneis-reckless-ban-covid-19-vaccine

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Curtis's avatar

Have you seen the video of the Japanese scientist who condemns the vax and warns everyone to NOT take the new Japanese vaxes? Yesterday on Vigilant Fox/Vigilant News.

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Christy's avatar

I can’t for the life of me why anyone needs more convoncing. I e lost 18 people in the last 2 years. That is NOT normal!!!!

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Curtis's avatar

Not everybody has had that experience. Many have of course. Personally, I believe they metered out the amount of "hot" batches to achieve an optimal balance of short and long term damage, and to avoid unwanted attention. Diabolical.

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CH's avatar

You are right. Big Pharma started spreading the lots around so they aren't concentrated to certain areas after they were sued. It is a lot harder to prove side effects from vaccines if the "hot" batches are spread all over the country.

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Christy's avatar

I guess you’re right about batches. But seriously, I don’t even mention how many others have cancer and other problems!

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FGB3's avatar

I wondered about that too. My wife and eldest son took the jab twice and are still healthy. (Can't remember which company - does that matter?)

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Vince's avatar

You can look up your batch. The lot number is on the Vax card. There is a site called "How bad is my batch".

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Appears to. Like Curtis notes above, contaminants vary considerably across vax batches, and the entire campaign makes every manufacturer suspicious at the very least. The challenge for your family and my grudgingly-vaxxed son might be finding out which batch they received.

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Vince's avatar

I stopped counting after 15 people in my small circle of family, friends, neighbors, etc died or were injured by the injections and there have been several more since then.

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Christy's avatar

It’s truly devastated to experience!!!

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Bgagnon's avatar

Curtis ... yes, yesterday. I was surprised ... so late in the game that I'm wondering about it?

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SB's avatar

The problem with that statement is his lack of understanding about how willing they are to contaminate their own citizens.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Excellent point.

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Roger Beal's avatar

When The Supreme Leader (t.m.reg.) declares a death fatwa on an incountry infidel, is that considered "contamination"?

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WP William's avatar

BIDEN and those who OWN him (Barak Obama and HIS owners (CIA?) will not leave the White House unless by their own design and terms. How to stay and hold onto full media, military, and voter support? WAR with multiple hot foreign conflicts AND domestic attacks; the End of the Republic never looked so good. Trump and MAGA are Russian Assets that must be stopped and jailed with only show trials to prove they are Enemies, Israel get its' comeuppance by getting pushed out of Golan and West Bank and back to 1948 borders, but Joe saves them from total annihilation. They won't allow themselves to lose their Game of RISK, they'll simply knock over the board every time they're at the brink. Meanwhile, we anti-authoritarian anti-Biden extremists are like Gypsies or Jehovah Witnesses in 1933 Germany; how would we ever get labeled as "enemies" of the state, we have no power and are no threat????

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WP William's avatar

sounds like a heart abnormality diagnosis that Pfizer has a treatment for? Ask your doctor if you're right for EnlitNya, the daily dose heart rhythm regulator drug to even out your moods and keep you in circulation all day long! Keep the beat with EnlitNya, and mind your heart!

Don't let a diagnosis of sivis pacem parabellum slow you down and keep you from exercise or strenuous sexual activity. Side effects may cause bleeding eyeballs, ovarian swelling, scrotal itching, and in rare instances acute shyness or death.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

We may have never been less prepared. (And Gesundheit!)

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WP William's avatar

i only know pig Latin and some Spanish curse words (for use at work)! Hijo de---!

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FGB3's avatar

Daddy what is a Spanish curse work?

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FGB3's avatar

I wonder who is Iran's non-supreme leader? (deputy supreme?)

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Ha! Semi-supreme? Pseudo-supreme?

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RunningLogic's avatar

All this talk about supreme has me craving pizza 😆😂

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Peace's avatar

I was thinking the same thing - pizza!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Great—and hungry!—minds think alike 😁

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Y'all should Stop! In the Name of Love!

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Vaccines made in Russia are perfectly safe, however.

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daverkb's avatar

Since you always paint The Putin and Russia black, black, black, who and what are you really for? People really want to know? But I suspect we will never get the truth out of you. And so, don't bother to answer this one!

We still love you Bennie Bean, Two Noodles. And because we do we again make this suggestion. That there's The Horse Farm and a green, green, green retirement awaiting you there. And just think of the fun you could have yuking it up the Horsey.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

4 more years until you guys get to pay for my retirement and healthcare forever.

And yes, I'll move off to my ranch and never work again. And we will have horses.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

The first amendment would be overturned these days if congress voted on it.

Mike Johnson is a sellout. The renewal of the FISA is just business as usual.

Maybe he's afraid of being Epsteined?

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DPFlorida's avatar

I foolishly had hopes for Johnson when I became aware of him - as I have with others, my simple self generally wanting to believe in goodness. But he sold out long before he sought the job, it is clear. They all do. No one reaches that seat or any other at that level without being a complete sellout, fraud, and/or tool of...somebody.

The system breeds and demands corruption.

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Christopher Wray comes across as the sleaziest form of slick, arrogant, used car lot finance manager trying to sell you an overpriced extended warranty on the car's security system that he puts onto the paperwork standard and you have to be talked down to and told you're an incompetent idiot if you don't just pay for it and go along with his advice. Oh sure (sigh and eyeroll) he CAN remove that provision and redo all the reams of paperwork since you're a committed insistent distrusting obstructing moron, but it's going to take time and now you've moved yourself to the back of the line. Just comply, sign, initial, and get your free pen and they'll leave the new car smell deodorizer under the seat for you too; it's for your own good. He's got business to run and you're simpleton underlings and nuisances who're wasting his valuable time by asking too many questions and raising too many objections to his professional and expert oversight and conduct.

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Blair's avatar

You're being very kind.

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WP William's avatar

he'd look great in some NAZI uniform, high collar, riding gloves, his shit-eating grin beaming as his security boys pry the fingernails off of some state enemy subversive who dared write some lampoon about his attraction to unbathed peasant women with large feet.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

He's the douchebag kid on the block who ended up being featured on Unsolved Mysteries....and everyone shrugged

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Kat D's avatar

And who appointed him?

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YYR's avatar

Who recommended him?

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Kat D's avatar

I don’t know, who?

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

And we wonder why there's ZERO accountability?....

It also breeds contempt for We The People.

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Christy's avatar

Yep. Not ONE person has been held accountable, well unless you were at J6!

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WP William's avatar

We/she/he/they/them the People

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Roger Beal's avatar

You left out zhe/zim/zhey. I am like sooo triggered.

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Donna in MO's avatar

^^^you win the internet today, lol.

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SadieJay's avatar

OMG...I am glad I left that other thread and came over here. All I did was click the little black line to the left and it magically transported me out of a contentious thread of who knows best and Peter McCullough is a plant to this witty nirvana. I love it.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

lolol!

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Johnny-O's avatar

Precisely. I was a bit surprised to see how many on these threads bought into Johnson. But then again, many on these threads were red pilled just a few years ago and do not yet quite grasp the depths of the tentacles of the permanent state (which is why they can't even consider that Trump may not exactly be a good actor)...

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

And you are going to vote for who, Johnny-O?

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SadieJay's avatar

Pedro. I say Vote For Pedro.

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Kat D's avatar

Trump is a democrat from way back. DeSantis would’ve been more effective but the mob had to have their way so we are stuck. If Trump wins it will be a squeaker. But on the other hand if Biden wins when the economy collapses the democrats will finally have to own their policies. I don’t think it can be diverted at this point and Trump wants to be loved over making the necessary cuts to even attempt to save the economy.

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Roger that, Gen. If we’re going to hell in a handbasket with either candidate, choose the one who might delay the explosion.

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My guess is they either threatened him or bought him. Or maybe both.

Remember when Bill Barr & Sessions were talked up as anti-deep-state heroes? Two minutes in the job & Barr sold out.

Sessions just hid under his desk.

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Bill Jarett's avatar

Retarded to ever think Bar who was the CIA's attorney liason to Congress in the 1970's was anything but a deep state uber hack.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Or he's getting BJ's from Paul Ryan

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Annie's avatar

That traitor - lying Paul Ryan.

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Steenroid's avatar

Now the vision is implanted in my mind. That’s how they got both of them.

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SadieJay's avatar

Is that French too?

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Too funny!

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Kat D's avatar

I always will think of Sessions as an honorable man who was treated poorly by Trump.

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Paige Green's avatar

Sessions should have ignored the accusation of conflict of interest and soldiered on. He didn’t have the mettle for the position to which he was appointed.

Nice guy, but too nice. I think his greatest moment was slapping Biden’s hand away as Joe reached for Session’s young granddaughter during some event.

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Kat D's avatar

I appreciate your view but I don’t think he had much choice. They never were going to let up on the Russia hoax and if it hadn’t turned out the way it did, it would forever have been a cloud over his presidency, an unanswered question. He was loyal to Trump and he was done dirty by him. Imo

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Susan G's avatar

I had faith in Bill Barr. Boy, was I wrong. I' m hoping that mistake finally opened my eyes.

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Christy's avatar

Covid fixed the first amendment problem. We only have one left.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Oil and polish is all I can say.

No despair if you prepare...

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Roger Beal's avatar

Invest in precious metals: Brass and lead.

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Porge's avatar

Lol!

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Christy's avatar

Amen Ryan! Truly prepared.

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Vince's avatar

And stock up on the supplies.

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WP William's avatar

"SAVE THE SWAMP! Biden-Harris 2024!" Johnson doesn't want his kids' school to be shot up by some deranged lone wolf pothead trans kid. It's very understandable what could happen should FISA be tampered with.

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You’ve hit the nail on the head. “That’s a nice (blank) you’ve got there, be a shame if something happened to (him/her/it).” (I suspect that happened with Amy Coney Barrett.)

The other tactic is blackmail. “We have *proof* you did (blank), even if you never did, and we’ll release it and sic our media lapdogs on the story and ruin you so fast you’ll be steamrolled before you even know what hit you.”

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Jack Bergeron's avatar

My first thought was the Deep State found something in Johnson’s past text messages, phone calls, internet searches, maybe massage pallor visits that could be embarrassing to him and his family. Only politicians with perfect pasts can stare down the threat of blackmail; all the more reason not to renew FISA. The FISA renewal is overtly unconstitutional. All who voted for it should be voted out of office for the simple reason of betraying their oath of office to support the Constitution … if only we had honest elections.

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

And what I mean by that is that even if a guy’s so squeaky clean he can’t be blackmailed, he can still be threatened.

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

If he was honest, he prolly remembers the Georgia car bomb. Wasn’t it a staffer who was dating a candidate’s daughter?

Makes it plain that murder is still an option.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Hard to imagine what he learned that’s more dangerous than an uninformed public without 4th Amendment rights. Only DC elites could pretend the public is safer when it doesn’t know it’s in danger.

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SadieJay's avatar

Biggest Disappointment Ever in my hope of hopes in that dirty rotten swamp. Can't decide who is worse, him or Pelosi. At least she didn't pretend to be anything other than a grift grabbing fossil in heels that were way to high for an old lady and masks that always matched her outfit.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

If only Mike Johnson would have a Kente cloth kneeling session he could be as cool as Pelosi!...:)

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SadieJay's avatar

And run that gavel straight through our hearts. Just get it over with. We all know which side he stands on.

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Diane C.'s avatar

The one positive benefit to the Covid mess just might be the spotlight that’s been put on the ever expanding childhood vaccine schedule.

Our country’s leaders lack of curiosity on the cause of the explosive rise in autism rates is, for me, an indictment on the entire healthcare system.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

While in the military, I took every vaccine known to man except for anthrax (God saved me from that one).

Used to think the anti-vaxxers were nutty.

Now I am an anti-vaxxer.

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Both my son and I were required to get a 3 part series of encephalitis shots in order to come back to the states from Okinawa. I never questioned it. Why wouldn’t they give those shots to us before we shipped out to a tropical island with encephalitis issues? Not before we were leaving said island. We didn’t have encephalitis but we were told we couldn’t come stateside without those shots. Both my son and myself now have autoimmune disorders. I never ever thought about any of this til the big C. I feel so guilty watching my grown son struggle daily. I trusted. 😔 never again!

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

the biggest regret i have in life is to allow my children to be given most of the vaccine schedule.

I was clueless

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Kim's avatar

Same here. My Mom’s sister developed polio as a small child. Therefore, I got every vaccine recommended. So my daughter did too. Until the last gardasil shot. Covid definitely exposed the system. I became very ill at 9 months old and have had autoimmune disorders ever since. My teen daughter has ADHD and autoimmune markers. After ditching Western trained doctors and seeing functional doctors, we have seen improvement. I sure wish I could go back and be sure my daughter was not vaccinated. Mom guilt.

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daverkb's avatar

Unfortunately, we can't all know everything timely ahead of time. Sometimes the best we can do is detox and ameliorating.

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Kim's avatar

I agree. That’s where we are now. Detox. It’s a shame we have been poisoned but we have to deal with it where we are. It is still tough to know I allowed the shots. But how would I have known? I’m so glad covid exposed the lies.

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daverkb's avatar

Almost no one is the simple answer. You would have had to been in the inside loop in order to see, hear and know what was about to come down with 2020 onwards Health Terrorism.

In the first decades of the 21st, I was heavily involved in politics, the Constitution Party, and even the General Assembly in my state. We and the Tea Parties uncovered Agenda 21 and the whole Marxist UN centered agendas. The uncovering was going on full scale across the country. We read this stuff, we could see where it all was headed. But even so, no one but no one, was prepared for the overwhelming onslaught against the entire world that was launched in 2020. The audacity, the bold scale and ambition of the C19 bio-weapons launch is like something we all have never, never seen before. The videos of world class city streets devoid, completely empty of people to this day haunts me. I will never get it out of my mind.

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Deb S's avatar

Same. I wish I had been half as skeptical 20 years ago. 😞

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AJF's avatar

Please do not blame yourself Kim. We always believed our doctors were looking out for our best interests. We must be grateful we know better now, and can hopefully help a few people to know better too.

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SadieJay's avatar

My dad wouldn't even take his dog to UC Davis vet clinic in the 60's because he said "all they do is experiment on animals there." He was so ahead of the curve in his skepticism of the system and he let you know it. I am pretty sure I did not get the smallpox vaccine, and I just turned 60. No proof. If I didn't and it was all faked for school records? Hell yeah...Go mom and dad. I have never thought of that until now. My dad was a very strong personality and I was his little baby. Wow. I should call my mom and ask her...she is almost 97 and sharp as a tack.

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SadieJay's avatar

Me too. After my sons 103 fever at 3 months old (cringe) after his DTP shot, the doc said no more of that. Thank God. He is now 34 years old and his thyroid is dead. I wonder if that is why? Ugh...I feel really sick when I think of the trust I put in the system...all of it. Food pyramid BS, the normies on The Walking Dead heading for the good guys at the CDC...all of it. I have always been red-pilled to a degree. But this vax shit hits too close to home for any comfort.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

gosh that is awful. sorry Sadie.

the only food pyramids i see any more are bipedal.

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daverkb's avatar

There are many ironies in life (also sadnesses as well). My mom, and a large part of the family, were Christian Scientists. As a result, I had no other shots other than small pox, and the stupid polio shot. And so, I was somewhat covered by this mantle from swallowing down the whole lot of Pharma Religion. The iron is that today I am of Reformed Faith such as were all of those aboard the Mayflower.

Well, the infamous 'they' had us, most of us, deluded. But C19 has broken that Egg of Containment for a long time going forward.

Hopefully, you all side-stepped the Terror Shot nightmare.

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Kim's avatar

Absolutely! No more vaccines period.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

No miracle juice for us. No way. Never a thought

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daverkb's avatar

I dub thee Sir Ryan the Wise! You are now a member of the Round Table!

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Sam's avatar

I hope pet owners are also questioning animal vaccines. If they aren’t safe for kids why would they make them safe for pets?

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YYR's avatar

Ditto. Now I'm stuck arguing with a masked lunatic pediatrician trying to convince me my 17-yo son will die without another injection. LOL. (Our previous, normal doc retired during COVID, it got too ridiculous for her.)

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Peace's avatar

Ditch the pediatrician and go with an open minded family medicine doc - your son will be aging out soon anyway. If you can, find an independent doc - one not affiliated with a large health system (not easy to find). They are much more likely to think outside the box and won't have to conform to the wishes of their overseers. And they don't get the reward per shot that pediatricians get so you won't have the constant shot haranguing.

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

There were years when I served that we got more than 1 "flu shot". We were told we'd been given the wrong strain previously.

My husband has shots in his record that even military doctors don't know what they are. They would ask him....of course he had no clue.

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D&R’s Gma's avatar

My hubs also.

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SadieJay's avatar

Mine too. I think this is why so many didn't question the vax who were military. I asked Hubs if he would have continued to get more shots if I hadn't raised the alarm after his first coerced injection by his work (hate them) and he said "probably". His USN injection story is ridiculous. Lining up with peope giving shots into each arm, like 6 at once, then onto the next shot giver. So, here is to all the Chicken Littles.

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

Yep, I remember those days. They would line us up and use jet injectors...."shot guns"..to give us our shots.

When we'd get HIV tested they'd also line us up. Sometimes they didn't bother using tourniquets. They would tell us to hold our arm and squeeze. Then they'd draw our blood.

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Credenda's avatar

That’s scary!

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AngelaK's avatar

😢

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L1's avatar

That’s awful!

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Annie's avatar

Wow!

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Christy's avatar

I absolutely love seeing people be red pilled!!!💕💕💕

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I just wished that it would have happened earlier.

The covid psyops was the determining event.

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Christy's avatar

It did for a few of us and we were considered cookoo. I begged my dad to not take the jab and he did anyway. I’m cracra 😢

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Betsy Frost's avatar

Me too. I participated in vaccine research studies and fully bought the idea of vaccines. Then after multiple vaxes in a short period, I developed thyroid disease and autoimmune issues. I was already questioning vaccines when Covid hit. Now I am with you...fully anti-vax.

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Susan Clack's avatar

Thank you for your service, Kathleen. My husband was in the Navy, and served in Vietnam (‘68-‘’69). When he was about to be discharged, there was some kind of kerfuffle involving his vax records…he would have had to wait a couple of weeks to get it sorted out, but he was anxious to be done with his enlistment. So he opted for ANOTHER FULL ROUND of all the shots he’d already gotten. 😞 He developed cysts in his arms at the injection sites and gee whiz, golly, came up with (autoimmune) Crohn’s Disease several years later. But he’ll never admit that was the cause…he never met a jab he didn’t like. 💔

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Susan, since your husband served in Vietnam, is he aware of the presumptive illness associated with exposure to Agent Orange?

Here is a link to the VA's website with the info:

https://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/agentorange/conditions/

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Roger Beal's avatar

In one case I know personally, the VA denied a VN vet exams and scans for his symptoms, and told him to his face, "When you actually get cancer, come back for treatment". He died three years ago, of cancer, which progressed too rapidly for any treatment to help him.

VA = Veterans Assassinations.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

"giving veterans one more chance to die for their country"

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Susan Clack's avatar

Oh, yes, he is up to speed on Agent Orange. His first child was born with a cancerous tumor on her sympathetic nerve…I don’t think he attributed that to AO exposure. I certainly have, but that’s just me…as I am wife #2, and not the mother of his children, I can only make assumptions. But anyway, he has lots of friends who served in Vietnam who have come up with cancer…all AO-related.

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Truth 101's avatar

I know a Vietnam Vet who just died of cancer. Had prostate cancer before covid and then ended up with brain tumor sometime in the last year or so. Was probably up to date on his mRNA injections. May have had the same outcome regardless of mRNA injections but it sure makes you wonder.

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Roger Beal's avatar

And blesedly you have not succumbed to turbo cancer or some other mRNA-produced illness.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I didn't take the covid DeathVax.

But...still hoping and praying because of all the other ones I took.

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Vince's avatar

There is another benefit from the C19 debacle. Parents became aware of what the public schools were teaching regarding LGBTQ sexual lifestyles and pushing children into believing they are transsexual.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I agree a lot of parents are becoming more aware, (some are still in denial that it’s being pushed in schools) but I also think the push to make trans normal or desirable has become stronger since covid. This current administration has encouraged trans and public schools and some parents have become more brainwashed into accepting this mental illness as normal behavior.

There are now more accepted behaviors than ever before. Take the acceptance of furries and the acceptance of teaching kids about oral sex, gay or straight, at a young age.

I know it started a long time ago, the Clinton era made anal sex ok for kids, so none of this is new, but it certainly has gotten worse since covid. General awareness has increased, yes, and that is good.

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Kat D's avatar

It was a slippery slope since the legitimacy of SSM. Inevitable imo.

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Michelle's avatar

And it’s not just taught in sex ed. Even k-4 are taught it under the trojan horse of “social emotional learning” (SEL).

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Kat D's avatar

I’ve seen many comments on Quora from old people who always had it but weren’t diagnosed until adulthood. I know of at least one boomer who is undiagnosed but certainly has it.

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Jeff C's avatar

A bit of a rant here that I’ve been composing as I watch things unfold on the world stage, Jeff Childers, post on Iran prompted me to post it.

So now we are being prepped to go to war with Iran after Israel deliberately and provocatively attacked their embassy in Syria. Yet more of America’s sons will die for Israel, and Israel couldn’t be happier. They did this specifically IMO, to force the US to fight Iran for them.

Despite the ominous signs I’m optimistic as I get the distinct feeling the tide is turning and most Americans won’t fall for it. It why hobgoblins like Ben Shapiro and Jonathan Greenblatt have been getting hysterical of late, they are losing the narrative and they know it. People who never dared criticize Israel are now speaking out and getting away with it (despite AIPAC threatening to destroy them). They still get called anti-semitic at the drop of a hat, but that epithet has lost its power. Candace Owens and Tucker Calson being two recent high-profile examples of people who dared challenge the Israel narrative and not only survived, but thrived.

This awakening has happened for one reason IMO, Israel's utterly barbaric response to the Hamas attacks. They showed their true colors, they really believe they are racially superior and that non-Jewish life is worthless. They are killing Palestinians more than twenty-fold the number killed by Hamas, 70% of the dead are women and children, and it is pissing normal, regular, decent people off. Jews and Zionist Christians however, think it’s just great and can’t get enough of the carnage (e.g. Speaker Mike Johnson among others).

All that stuff Jesus taught about kindness to others goes out the window when Israel does it, they get a free pass to commit whatever evil they want. Zionist Christians know that because some mega-church pastor told them so, even though that Dispensational Biblical interpretation was only invented in the 1800’s by John Nelson Darby. Eighteen hundred years of historical Christianity be damned (not that they even know about it as they have never ventured beyond what they were told). It never crosses their mind that people being slaughtered by the tens of thousands, regardless of their ethnicity, is 100% contrary to the Gospel. They sure like to quote Gen 12:3 though (completely out of context FWIW), as if it wipes out everything Jesus taught.

Then on top of it we get Israel propaganda 24-7 on the news and commercials (the hostages!) with nothing about the 9000+ Palestinians held by Israel, a huge number of whom were abducted, have had no trial, and have never been charged with anything. Why isn't Fox News giving us teary updates about those hostages? Well, they don’t have a big advertising budget and Mossad psy-ops operating on their behalf. Even mentioning those locked up Palestinians gets one called a terrorist sympathizer.

It is an ugly, ugly situation fueled by contemptible people. And it's all related, why do all the Neocons hate Russia so much and demand that my kids go fight them? Why do they care so much about "Ukrainian democracy" (lol)? They don't but they have a huge chip on their shoulder from Russia's historical animosity towards the Jews, plus they can't stand Putin as he won't kiss Israel's ass. So they trot out every lie and emotional manipulation tactic in the book to try and guilt the sons of America's small towns and inner cities to fight their wars for them. These Neocons are dark-hearted people. Just look at Victoria Nuland (real last name Nudelman), the woman’s bile manifests itself right on her pug-ugly face. That’s not an ugliness from birth as she was actually attractive in her twenties. It’s an ugliness that comes from performing thirty years of demonic evil.

The good news is that people are finally seeing through it, though it took many decades of it getting worse and worse. Heretical theology propagated by Zionist Christians is finally dying off with the Boomers, as is seventy-five years of Holocaust collective guilt pushed by the media (which none of us had anything to do with of course). And when Ben Shapiro and his ilk try to lay a guilt trip on you, tells you that you are obligated to sacrifice your sons for “Gods chosen people”, and that Palestinian lives are worthless, know that they are quite literally a manifestation of Satan.

Disclaimer that I'm not Jeff Childers for people new here.

Edit: fixed an unfortunate typo it should have been Genesis 12:3 not 12:4. Lesson learned for the 10,000th time that I make mistakes when I'm angry. The rest of the comment stands.

Edit 2: Several people in the comments correctly pointed out that I gave the impression I support Palestine over Israel and should have been more clear. They are exactly right, I should have stated that I don't support either side but support kindness towards people just trying to live their lives.

The tone of my comment though, was specifically aimed at those trying to manipulate us to support, fund, and fight on behalf of Israel. In particular, those trying to use guilt and deception to manipulate good people into doing so. Almost no one is out there saying we need support, fund, and fight on behalf of the Palestinians.

The propaganda trying to pull the US into this war (thus sacrificing our blood and treasure) is entirely one-sided and it's all coming from the pro-Israel side. The pro-Palestine side are often despicable people (Antifa types) but they aren't demanding we start bombing anyone or that the somehow the Bible compels us to kill people.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

I don’t disagree with your comments. I strongly believe that, whatever the details are, the USA should COMPLETELY stay out of it, and let those other countries hash it out themselves. Sound naive and oversimplified? Well, how well has our interference worked out so far?

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Jpeach's avatar

The U.S. is provoking Iran with the right hand and probably funneling them billions with the left hand.

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Valerie's avatar

Our foreign policy has become utterly disgusting, especially since 9/11. Many people want us to just stay out of other country’s affairs now, and stop the stupid invasions to ‘bring democracy’ which seem to only cost American lives and billions of dollars and have no effect on the human rights of the countries we invade. Just stop it.

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Timothy Wallace's avatar

Correction: MOST people.

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WP William's avatar

But Iran will do what they want with the Russian/CCP backers behind them and Bagram and Afghanistan free of Western military. Israel could make the case to the world about the terror-operations being conducted from the embassy annex and the dire situation on their Northern front and the desperation attack to neuter it. BUT THEN WHY wouldn't Biden and the Foreign-Turmoil-Expert Complex immediately go out to de-escalate things??? Why the resigned; Iran's attack on Israel is imminent and very soon commentary? Yes, CIA/DeepState/Israeli S.S. fingers all over it.

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daverkb's avatar

Whatever case Israel and the United States make, there is one big problem. The Narrative (and subset narratives) are collapsing. The Emperor has told so many lies that nobody believes him. Just call it CSS (crying wolf syndrome).

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MaryAnn's avatar

Muslims have a thing about the left hand so I suspect the right hand is funneling the cash.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Definitely funneling them billions. Like a simple depopulation scheme with cash profits for the schemers.

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YYR's avatar

Probably?!

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Nobody is provoking Iran. Nobody.

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Timothy Wallace's avatar

You're either blind or stupid.

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Dave's avatar

He's part of the MIC.

His livelihood depends on warmongering.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I’m not.

Nobody is provoking Iran. Stopping them from aiding terrorism across the world is not provoking them.

Trump smoked their terrorist general in Iraq for directly being involved in embassy attacks.

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daverkb's avatar

Burp Two Noodles! There he goes again!

By the way, B Two Noodles. Can you tell us what your 'pronouns' are? And what size Troll Barbie shoes you wear? People are on the edge of their seats just dying to know! (The rest of us are thinking seriously of joining The Two Noodles Fan Club. So we can get the stench going in the opposite direction!)

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Jeff C's avatar

You are such a liar. Israel deliberately bombed the Iranian embassy in Syria, which is probably the most provocative action a country can take. Even in WWI and WWII countries respected the sanctity and sovereignty of embassies, what Israel did is an outright war crime.

At least you finally outed yourself as a Zionist shill. All of that Ukraine nationalist posturing was really just a fig leaf for the fact you just hate Russia. Hundreds of thousands of dead Ukrainians is a price you Zionists seem quite happy to pay. Demonic.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

And was there something going on that was causing Israel to hit that Iranian general? Maybe, for example, the murder of 1400 Israelis by Hamas which was aided and abetted by iran...?

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Jeff C's avatar

I'm not wasting my time with you, you lie some some people breath.

You said no one is doing anything to provoke Iran, which was an outright lie as I explained above. Now you change your tune to say there was provocation but it was justified. Just one lie after another, just like your father.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Iran intentionally stormed and took over an embassy and held Americans captive for 444 days.

It was a consulate, not an embassy. Furthermore, if you're going to use the consulate to, ahem, **plan more attacks on Israel through IRGC generals** don't do it through consulates.

Israel has no qualms about hitting it. I'd push the button myself-Iran has killed thousands of Americans over the years and westerners in their terrorist rampages.

The creator of this blog and many on it are willing to expend every single Russian male to simply damage Biden and hurt America.

I don't want a single Russian or Ukrainian to die. Russians are dying in mass to conquer and subjugate Ukraine. Ukrainians are dying to protect their country and culture.

The person who can stop all the death and destruction is VVP, or Vladimir Putin.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Bingo! As was said, it’s Israel trying to get us involved to fight a war without them melting Tehran. Or we did it, just like we did the Russian theatre murders. The cretins in our government are fucking evil! They will do anything for money, votes, and weird sex. Time for Americans to revolt, if this idiot in poopy pants gets us in this war. And granted, it isn’t him, he’s playing at it. It’s the deep state, and we know it. As does every other big country on earth. So maybe, if we Americans decide enough is enough, we get control back. These fuckers are out of control.

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WP William's avatar

WE OWN THEM. They suck ass at everything they touch. WE fire them like the King-kissing, Slave-breeding, Land squatting, Border-violating, empire building, private-public partnership loving, child-abusing, god-hating criminal scum that they are and take back OUR Divinely Bestowed Birthright. We commoners couldn't do any worse job than these fakes and freaks have been.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

So what will it take? If we let them get us into wwiii, it’s too late.

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

“So what will it take?”

I would have thought the murder of Ashli Babbit and the incarceration of J6 political prisoners. Hell, the “Patriot act” should have, if people would even make a modicum of effort to understand history.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

There with ya.

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Christy's avatar

Totally agree. I also think it’s easy for people to say, let’s go to war when they aren’t sending their kids!!

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Jon M.'s avatar

Jeff C, (not Jeff Childers) your dislike? for Israel or love for Palestinian terrorists? seems to be showing? Ever since Israel was unprovokingly attacked with Palestinians shouting "from the river to the sea" (meaning they want to wipe Israel from the face of the earth) Israel has been forced to fight for their very existence. They are forced to root out Hamas fighters from Gaza totally to be safe and the Palestinians continue to shield and hide Hamas... If the USA had the same thing happening to us I would hope that the world wouldn't stop us from winning the war with our enemy, saying we couldn't continue to fight once the same number of our enemy was killed as was equal to how many of us the enemy killed in the first unprovoked attack. I do not hate the Palestinian people and I think Israel doesn't either, but they have to ensure Hamas doesn't have the capability to start their genocide again when the war is declared over and done with. If you haven't noticed, Israel has been fighting the war with a surgical approach for the most part trying to avoid civilian casualties as much as possible unlike their enemy.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

It's like the scamdemic. Oct 7 was a psyop.

The gaza border is the most secure and monitored in the world. There's no way sandal wearing savages surprised Mossad and IDF.

The goal is to genocide their opponent and take their remaining land, which is valuable seaside property with billions of offshore gas.

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Dave's avatar

Get your ass over there and volunteer

Don't volunteer my kids.

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TB's avatar

That's an interesting point. Was the US morally wrong for not calling a ceasefire in WW2, after they had killed as many Japanese as the number of Americans that died in the first Pearl Harbor attack? Presumably not; once war was on, it was on, regardless of the casualty numbers on each side, and it kept going until one side surrendered. (And I'm not arguing here about whether the US should have stopped/stayed out for other reasons, only about the argument that "they killed more people in their retaliation than the original number of victims".)

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Sam's avatar

Good grief.

"Ever since Israel was unprovokingly attacked…"

Only if you ignore the 75 year history of Israel ethnic cleansing Palestine and having a decades old boycott on Gaza. Palestinians have a right to self defense from its oppressors. And the Israeli military killed more Israelis than Hamas did. Remember those 200 cars that had been bombed? Hamas had no weapons that could have done that, but Israeli helicopters sure could.

"Israel has been fighting the war with a surgical approach for the most part trying to avoid civilian casualties as much as possible unlike their enemy."

Yeah all those 2,000 lbs bombs Israel has dropped on refugee camps were just mistakes right? Sheesh! Either very ignorant or just dumb.

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Lew's avatar

I am old enough to have known of relatives (whom I never had met) who did not escape the death camps alive. My parents and grandparents escaped Europe ahead of the onslaught. So, despite not being bar mitzvahed, I have the blood of generations of Jews running through my body from both Mother and Father. I FEEL Jewish. For my whole life I have defended Israel -- until now. The slaughter response of almost 50 to 1 is the end for me. I guess I would now be called an anti-Semitic Jew. So be it.

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daverkb's avatar

Well, people get pasted with this all the time. And it can well-be said that there are boat loads of people in Israel who are feed up with their Zionist Flesh Easting Masters.

1) It could well be that I am an 'anti-Semite' because I feel common cause with non-Zionist Jews.

2) The odd thing about 'the people who can never be criticized' is the most of the using the weaponized term are not, repeat not, Semites themselves. They instead arouse of the Turkoman tribes. They are step people and are largely Northern European Jewry. There Jewishness (whatever that is) is by adoption.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

We're tired of the victimhood routine.

Bolsheviks killed more than 30 million Whites in Russia, and they don't rant about it like you guys do.

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Freebird's avatar

Jeff C, your rant is correct in essence, however…it may lead some to the conclusion that we throw support to ‘the other side’, that is the Palestinians. Which to me is also untenable. Supporting radical Muslims is just as bad as supporting a corrupt Jewish state. As Cathleen said, the smart choice for us is stay OUT of that conflict. But we all know that war generates $$$, at least for those in powerful positions. For the rest of us war means poverty and death, but have the PTB ever cared about that?

I’m not as optimistic as you about waning support for Israel. I live in the Bible Belt where blind support for Israel is almost ubiquitous; Zionist Christian rhetoric is alive and well, repeated ad nauseam on social media and elsewhere. According to their fired up rhetoric, it’s unthinkable that Christians would not support Israel. They have some scripture passages other than Gen. 12:3 (you mistakenly said v.4). I personally agree with you, that the Zionist view is a misunderstanding of the New Covenant instituted by Christ. But they have a an entire theology built around this belief which is tied to end time theology. It’s a very complicated issue.

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daverkb's avatar

Why frame it this way. Why all this reflexive interminable dash to pick sides? What about OUR SIDE (thing like the border, not shoveling tons of quack currency abroad).

We are being diverted at every twist and turn from our own cause.

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Roger Beal's avatar

These beliefs are founded in that school of errors called Dispensationalism.

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Jeff C's avatar

Thank you Freebird, I should have made that more clear. I do not support the Palestinian cause either, and think most of their defenders are reprehensible. I support kindness towards people who just want to live their lives.

However, you cannot criticize Israel without being called a terrorist-lover or anti-semitic. It comes with the turf, and it's difficult to separate those using it in good faith vs. bad. So I haven't bothered to respond to those using that tactic but thanks to those who have responded.

Thanks for the note on Gen 12:3, I fixed it in the comment.

I myself was a Dispensationalist for many years but came out of it as I realized it was a non-biblical sect. I wrote about it here if anyone is interested:

https://revmatthewlittlefield.substack.com/p/why-cant-many-christians-see-obvious/comment/51287697

The post I was responding too is from an Australian pastor and it's excellent: "Why Can’t Many Christians See Obvious Evil?"

https://revmatthewlittlefield.substack.com/p/why-cant-many-christians-see-obvious

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daverkb's avatar

Positive relief here. Just reading truth here about Christianity and the source of assaults upon Christianity brings a fresh breeze into the room.

1) It is entirely true that 'the people who can never be criticized' long ago Zionized Christianity and with a special focus on America. And thereby corrupted the American Church largely into a philo-Zionist false idol. There are other numerous invading heresies, but that for another day.

2) My personal pet peeve are the terms 'Judeo-Christian' and/or 'Judeo-Christianity;. We are Christian, simply Christian ... and no leaky boat hyphenated anything else. The Apostle Paul must have been of a similar mind. Otherwise we would not have run the Judaizers out of town.

3) And by the way, not a peep out of the Heroic Mighty Pastorate about the blatant persecution of Christians in the Western Word Lands, and moreover ... not a peep about the horrific Zionist persecutions in Israel and Israeli occupied lands. Not one peep. No defending of Christian at all. Silence!

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TB's avatar

"the people who can never be criticized"...

... he says, while criticizing them.

(Don't get me wrong, I believe Israel and/or Jewish people are just as fair game as anyone else when it comes to having opinions about them. It's just a bit funny to see a comment section full of a ton of criticism of Israel, while at the same time also saying that you "can't" criticize them. No... some people don't WANT you to criticize them, and will attack you if you do, but that's true of most any nationality or religion, you're "racist" or "islamophobic" or "christophobic" or "anti-white" or "anti-science" or ... anything, really, SOMEONE will throw it at you eventually.)

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daverkb's avatar

Actually, it is the entire Western Complex, that's gone bonkers in a very evil way. And yes, we want the genocide/democide to end ... in all of it's forms.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

You make some valid points, JC, but some might rest on a false equivalence. The pro-Palestine side isn’t “demanding we start bombing anyone” because they don’t need help raping, pillaging, and plundering. And of course the Bible doesn’t compel us to kill people, but the Palestinian “Bible” apparently does. If our families and neighbors were subject to repeated assault by the pro-Palestine side, we’d righteously smoke some terrorists without a thought about turning the other cheek. That’s hardly hypocritical. I think this is a rhetorical question, but I’ll ask it: if Hamas is intent on fighting to the death, who would we prefer left standing?

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Jackie J's avatar

I couldn’t suffer your entire comment (way too long-start your own stack if you have so much to say), but basically all it demonstrates is that you understand Christians but definitely have no understanding of Muslims.

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Jeff C's avatar

You couldn't suffer my comment so you responded with non-sensical gibberish.

I don't have my own stack and I post anonymously because I'm not trying to draw a following or promote myself. I frankly don't care what you think about me or anyone else for that matter.

What I am trying to do is to get people to challenge knee-jerk assumptions that they've never thought about. Particularly when we are being manipulated into yet another war.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

WTF does that even mean?

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

This comes to mind. In the Old Testament, God told the Israelites to clear the land of foreign people. To decimate them. Look at the Israeli map now, they have no room to breathe. It would be like us having the Palestinians owning the next state over, lobbing missiles at us. And nobody wants to take the Palestinians in.

With this in mind, how is this different than God‘s directive in the Old Testament?

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Lorita's avatar

I agree totally about John Nelson Darby, an unholy twist sadly used in some pulpits. We were duped. In my opinion reading the bible from cover to cover every year enlightens me about trends currently happening in the world and has a wealth of info about how to view and respond with faith. I believe God is no respecter of persons in that the God I know loves all his creation. It is insanity if you think genocide is ok. If you are horrified at genocide in the news, but not horrified about what is happening in Israel/Gaza I don't know what to say.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Jeff, thank you for your "rant". Such things need to be said. I look forward to more...

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Jeff C's avatar

Hamas killed about 1400 on 10/7 according to official Israeli sources. Independent sources thing several hundred of those were actually killed by trigger-happy Israeli military, but let's use the 1400 number.

Since 10/7, Israel has killed 33,000+ Palestinians, two-thirds of which were women and children. These were civilian targets 95%+ had nothing to do with Hamas. They are deliberately withholding food, water, and medicine to starve the rest of the population.

Yes, it is BARBARIC by any standard. Think for yourself instead of regurgitating what you heard for God's sake.

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

Jeff C, what is your source for the number of Palestinians killed or taken hostage? Hamas is notorious for inflating casualties and even faking and filming the deaths of civilians. They also cowardly hide their military assets in civilian places like schools and hospitals to further smear Israel. And while we're quoting Scripture, how about Genesis 12:3. Reliable sources that I read say that Israel has gone out of its way to protect civilians. It's Hamas who don't value human life, even their own people from what I can see. Of course in our present bizarre world, it's difficult to find the truth.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Urban warfare is brutal. Attackers and defenders both kill civilians caught in the struggle. If the defenders do not wear military uniforms, it makes it harder for the attackers to know who is who! I see the captured MSM decry civilian casualties by the IDF but hear nothing of how many civilians Hamas has killed and due to the nature of the struggle, its probably many.

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Dave's avatar

Get your ass over there and volunteer

Don't volunteer my kids.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

"Reliable sources" = typical western sources, i.e. complete liars

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

BSM, I was referring to Christians in Israel who report what they see on the ground. I gave up on legacy media, even Fox, a long time ago. C & C is one of my main news sources.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Shop around Substack ... there are several other worthy and intelligent regular columnists there you might want to read.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Apparently we kill reliable sources.

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Credenda's avatar

The simple fact is that collective punishment by way of starvation is not a Christian action. And does the tonnage of bombs supplied by the US now exceed Hiroshima?

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Credenda's avatar

It’s likely that Netanyahu did a stand-down to allow it to happen, much like the strange inexplicable facts of 9/11 point to an inside job.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

This was a an US/Israeli psyop to genocide their opponent and take the land to develop it for seaside resorts and offshore gas. Same people who ran the covid scam are doing this.

Also: Many were killed by Israeli helicopters.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/5/israeli-fire-most-likely-killed-woman-taken-captive-on-october-7-army

https://thecradle.co/articles-id/13111 "Israel admits it killed its own at Nova music festival"

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231119-israeli-helicopter-opened-fire-on-israelis-in-festival-during-hamas-attack-on-october-7-report/

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Politico Phil's avatar

Why is it people always forget first causes and allow the "narrative" to control? Just like the CV still being treated as an actual virus that was leaked from the Wuhan lab rather than a non-replicating, synthetic biology, invented by the DoD. The Hamas attack was a staged, media event by the US, the Israeli Gov't who stood down the IDF for the attack and Iran for the purposes you innumerated. Everything in the middle east is theater.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

That’s what makes this easy to remove ourselves from, if we had an administration instead of a clown car of criminals piloting this craft. These people are all heathens, on both sides. So fuck them all. None of our blood or treasure should be wasted here.

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Timothy Wallace's avatar

Nobody's forgetting. But nobody rational believes that the Israelis didn't know of Hamas's plans for an Oct 7th attack, and instead just let it happen in order to trigger more support for a Netanyahu (via a new war); who is desperately trying to hang onto power in the face of massive Israeli disapproval of what he's been doing for decades. You're not going to like what happens to America's economy when Iran responds to Israeli provocations like bombing their embassy in Syria.

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PEL's avatar

That is an unanswered question as was always led to believe they had such great intelligence. Also wasn’t the venue moved right before the event? Why?

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Timothy Wallace's avatar

Sacrificial lambs is my guess. For the obviously worthier cause of Netanyahu using their potential slaughter as a basis to retain political power. Then rub some salt into what they hoped would be serious mental wounds with some badly pre-written rape stories in order to engage the public's emotions before logic took over.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Well, it’s Sunday, and we’re being sucked right in as planned. I really think it’s time for god to swallow whole dc, Tehran, Jerusalem. Maybe throw in Kiev and Pyongyang. Beijing. That would cause world peace.

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Bill Jarett's avatar

You don't murder 30,000+ civilians as a response and expect sympathy.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Correct. A majority of them are under 18.

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Judith's avatar

My anti-vax journey also started with covid. At first I just had questions but then, like many of the other posters, I read Dissolving Illusions and other books and I now I'm all in. I was recently at a party with my high school friends, good virtue signaling NY liberals, and mentioned that if we were to have kids now we would not vaccinate them. Horrified silence ensued. Later my husband told a gun story and at that point I knew we never be invited back. At least we gave them something to talk about when we left.

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Lil M.'s avatar

You might want to add The Indoctrinated Brain by Dr. Michael Nehls to your reading list... (Or at least check out his interview with Tucker Carlson to see if you want to read it.) It might help to explain the behavior of your liberal friends.

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Gary T's avatar

Jeff, I think the barges and bridges issue is not terrorism or intentional, I think its the same as the Boeing and pilot problems - incompetence and DEI hires, much like govt employees, and elected I suppose.

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LMWC's avatar

A year ago this past December, a huge corn storing “dome” at my local grain elevator caught fire. No warning alarms went off. The fire was first noticed when flames were spotted shooting out of the center pole structure, shaped much like a circus tent. Over 33 million bushels of stored, drying corn smoldered for months. Fire crews from all over the state were called in to continuously douse the fires. It took months to haul away blackened, ruined corn. The elevator was insured and no farmer lost anything, but to this day we who lived with the stench for months have any explanation of what caused the blaze, and why no heat or fire alarms went off. Incompetence? Not likely. There is a deliberate attempt to terrorize this country by a thousand tiny cuts.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

I think if you put 2 (terrorism and intentional) + 2 (the incompetence of DEI hires) together you get what we’re now seeing. Death and destruction.

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Annie's avatar

I think it is both.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Being from Pittsburgh by marriage ( ikr) there is a ton of flooding going on there right now, many roads under water. Means rivers are running at their highest speeds and levels. Throw big chunks of ice in the mix, and you got barges ripped from their moorings. Not a terror attack, not die retards, just nature.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

The timing is sure odd tho huh, right after the Baltimore attack?

3 Rivers flooding has been going forever.

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Paige Green's avatar

You’ll see more too. “Reporting” these days is simply a matter of googling whatever the latest, greatest subject is (boats and/or bridges for example) and recirculating what would normally be a local story.

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Susan G's avatar

The Ohio River at the Point has been over flood stage twice in April, on April 4 and the 11th. April rainfall to date exceeds all former levels. Both bridges are fine and reopened. My concern is the company responsible for the barges. I'd bet incompetence.

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Roger Beal's avatar

EXACTLY. Happens to some degree every spring; this one is just a bit more violent.

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Just Comment's avatar

Intentionally done to further destroy services for human ?

FAA’s diversity push includes focus on hiring people with ‘severe intellectual’ and ‘psychiatric’ disabilities

https://nypost.com/2024/01/14/news/faas-diversity-push-includes-hiring-people-with-intellectual-and-psychiatric-disabilities/

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LuAnne's avatar

What better way to discourage air travel by regular folks than to turn the skies into a casino-like crap shoot? It's like DEI pushers and climate change nut jobs getting married in a Las Vegas love-me-tender chapel.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

but if you wear a mask you'll always be safe on a plane....:]

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Truth 101's avatar

I'm getting and image of face masks being deployed as parachutes.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

LOLOLOL

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Credenda's avatar

Anybody wanna go for a plane ride? Looks like all this is Pete Buttgig’s way of thumbing his nose at us normies. It’s the revenge of the chest-feeders! Lol

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Peace's avatar

I'm glad to know that the people approving these decisions won't be iin harm's way as they fly on their chartered and private planes. At least they will be kept safe to make more decisions on our behalf.

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Suzabelle's avatar

Whatever the cause turns out to be, our insistence on hiring incompetents and our decaying infrastructure can readily serve to hide any number of terrorist attacks within those equally likely possibilities. It seems quite possible that they could be and have been occurring for a few years now; how would we distinguish them from our own incompetence and neglect? This combination is an open invitation to any hostile entity to prey on us undetected.

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PEL's avatar

The silent generation and then boomers did know how to build and maintain stuff. Now they are retiring so who is running the show?

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RU's avatar

The DEI/CRT/ESG thing is itself an act of terrorism. It's a foreign-sponsored psy-op. It was injected into our system to do exactly what we are seeing now. Once the groundwork was laid in the Universities, all they needed was a handful of influential business leaders to adopt it.

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Valerie's avatar

I’m 90% on the incompetence/DEI theory and 10% on willful destruction/terrorism. It’s probably both. Here’s another thing to consider. I know a man that I see at the gym all the time, he’s a gym friend, we chat a little on the way in our out (not between sets because I’m not rude). This guy is in his early 60s and is build like a an ox, super muscular and thick. Over several conversations, it somehow comes out that he takes supplemental testosterone, his doc gives him a script to boost his T to 1200, which I understand is about the max for normally occurring T. But he’s in his 60s, so it’s far from normal for his age. Then, this guy tells me, he goes online and gets more and keeps his T at 3000. Three. Thousand. Yes, he’s built like an ox, but that much T can be extremely dangerous. And my whole point of the story is this.... he’s a PILOT for our for our major airlines. So.....

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Paige Green's avatar

News travels quickly and internationally in the tech age. A soon as a train wreck happened in Ohio, many subsequent train wreck stories were highlighted. And so it goes with bridges and boats.

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Doug Young's avatar

Actually was at a well-attended (yes, even here in the bluest of the blue) presentation by Dr. McCullough just last night in Insane Francisco, & he made the autism-vax connection. I didn't know he was just discovering it. Welcome to the club Dr. McCullough!!

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Ed Thorrens's avatar

”For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.“

‭‭I Corinthians‬ ‭1‬:‭18‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

https://bible.com/bible/114/1co.1.18.NKJV

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Have been an anti-vaxxer since 1988 when a friend shared her copy of Dissolving Illusions with me. No regrets. My youngest (now 27), completely unpoked, is super healthy. When he does get sick, it resolves in a day or two. I am so hopeful that, given time, those dreaded poison shots, and the companies that produce them, will get what they’ve got coming to them. Death! ☠️

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Lynn's avatar

Wish I could say the same. I became “vaccine hesitant” around 2005 when I friend of mine made a random comment about her son with Autism and how she asked the Drs. and they assured her it wasn’t related to the vaccine. Then came HPV and my kids were pre-teens. I said “no thanks” for them - praise God. Then C-19 hit and I was like,,,,, yea, I think I’ll wait this one out. Now, I’m full on anti-vax.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Very smart! A shame so many other parents weren't so observant.

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Crixcyon's avatar

My trust factor of nearly everything is about 2% and descending. I am 100% certain that the democrats, liberals and fascists will do everything they have to in order to circumvent Trump or any republican getting into the Black House. The next 10 years are going to be very dark in the history of America. What evolves from the mid 2030's and beyond will be quite different and it won't be the WEF, WHO, globalists, gates, China, big pharma or the DC swamp calling the shots.

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Credenda's avatar

True Nuff Crix but we have a mighty Savior. And this world is not our home. If this were all there was, I’d be in despair.

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RU's avatar

You left out the socialists, communists, Republicans, and "libertarians," who are nearly all also on team anti-America. (I never expected to read the authors at Reason arguing FOR lockdowns and masks, but there they were, all-in, captured.)

For some reason, I'm still not black-pilled. Our system is resilient. We have a very large geographic area and a very armed populace. People are waking up rapidly. We have a handful of the billionaire class fighting for us. Young people are FINALLY waking up. Think of the shift from 2015 to now: the newly-developed distrust in the media, "experts," warmongers, etc. Even if Trump "loses" the election, no one is going to believe it outside the 20-30% who will always bow to the establishment (even if the establishment is murdering their child).

Not only that, we're mocking them openly on social media. I think there's a lot to be said for that. We're here reading this Substack. Jeff is able to write it w/o being abducted by the gov't. Pretty sure no one was standing in the town center openly mocking Mao or Stalin.

But, we are definitely at a critical moment and this very unique project is slipping away. The world needs the existence of America. We've got to stand up for it.

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Christy's avatar

You trust the republicans?

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EverybodyDuck's avatar

Be ready, losing that final 2% won’t take long.

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Ray's avatar

i fail to understand Christians supporting israel

what is wrong with you?

it is by far the most evil place on earth and they have killed thousands of Christians in gaza

they dominate your country with dual nationality senior politicians that dgaf about the US

wake up!

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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

I agree with what you've written, but I think that Ayatollah Khomeini was correct in labeling the US the "Great Satan." We are.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

US created the covid bioweapon and the covid "vaccine" bioweapon.

Yep, we are the baddies.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Incorrect.

Don’t forget to get the Russian Covid shot since it’s sage and effective and works

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Jaci's avatar

Christians cannot get beyond chosen people! Yawah is vengeful and why not choose Jews. The letter J got its start in the 1500's....mmmm.

One group of jews is Khazarian mafia...not jews, hide behind the chosen ones to evade truth. They are satanists. The other jews even protect them. The jews run the world. If anyone cannot see this, do some research into the incest ridden Rothschild family and Rockefeller pharma,education,frequency changes, etc. it is amazing to see a drop of water at 400 and 440 frequency. One is beautiful and it is not the Rockefeller frequency. Where are all the church bells? What is Tartaria?

And how do they have the power to own every bank in the world? Who allowed this? Link back to the Titanic. Who died and why?

Why hasnt the truth come out about the link between autism and the vaccines? Why peanut allergies?why childhood cancer?

I could go on and on about the lies we have been fed and the scales over the eyes of so many.

Wars are nothing more than human sacrifices that enrich both sides!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

The Titanic sinking is a great conspiracy. Lots of politicians aboard who were fighting the creation of the Federal Reserve.

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daverkb's avatar

The world is beginning to see through the charade and that is way The Israeli Narrative is now in collapse. I thought I'd never see it failing, but here we are!

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RU's avatar

IMO, it seems we are all tools of the British empire. Divide and conquer. Preferably maintain and amplify divisions where possible. Create divisions if there are none existing. Goad rivals into foolish wars to deplete them financially and materially (incl. human life). Pop in as the "savior" and negotiate a nice return for yourself.

Once you view it through that lens, all the geopolitical chaos makes a lot more sense. For example, the attacks by terrorists in Israel and Israel's aggression is not independent of Britain's desire to conquer and colonize Russia.

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Ray's avatar

i am british and i think you give us too much credit, we are a dead empire with stupid leaders, crooked yes but not intelligent.

the israelis own our lot too, like the rothchilds

a lot could be put to the WEF in the UK

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RU's avatar

I think that's part of the ploy. Always look too incompetent to be implicated. It doesn't take great intelligence, just deviousness. Navalny was an MI6 asset, caught on camera with an MI6 agent asking for money to start a "color revolution." MI6 it turns out was behind a lot of the spying on Trump and Trump supporters. If I had to make a guess as to who caused the FSK bridge collapse, I would guess them, trying to pull the US back into war with Russia.

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Olivia's avatar

Israel was and is God’s chosen people.

Christian’s were “adopted” into that family due to the temporary blindness of the Jews to the Savior, God’s Son.

His plans for the Jews are not over and they will play a HUGE part in our future. THAT’S why Christians value the Jews. They are our roots and the Bible says one day that all of Israel shall be saved. If you are a Christian, you will see that play out.

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Politico Phil's avatar

"Christian’s were “adopted” into that family DUE to the temporary blindness of the Jews to the Savior, God’s Son."

This borders on blasphemy. You do not understand the simplest explanations given by Jesus in the Gospels. There are so many things wrong with your statement, I cannot even begin. You do not understand God's covenant nor the meaning of adoption.

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Ray's avatar

gawd chose some genocidal baby killers?

get fkd

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John Galt?'s avatar

I don't think it's a stretch to assume that EVERYTHING the Biden regime does is laser-focused on retaining power. Everything. Without power, nothing really matters to them.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Pittsburgh: we had a lot of rain over the last couple of days. Flooding in areas that were not even dry from the rain we had last week.

Rivers are high with strong current.

26 barges...yep.

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WP William's avatar

Evidence of Climate Change! even all the experts with PhDs in logistics, supply-chain operations and transportation are clueless and caught with pants down when pestilences, wars, mysterious multiple food industry disasters (MMFIDs), barge and bridge collisions, are going on. Wait til they see what an EMP can do(!?)

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

PhD must stand for "push here dummy" because they are clueless and dumb.

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sean anderson's avatar

Ph.D = “piled higher and deeper”

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Don't click on "kim" link.

Malware from a bot.

Danger!

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Same for Angie, Sue and Carol

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Thanks! Report these when you see them by clicking on ... at right of post!

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Oh good point. Didn't know you could do that.

Thanks for tip

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Reported!!!

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And then block.

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Yes, I reported the bot.

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These can be reported by tapping the three dots on right.

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also tara h & cara, they all drop the exact same Malware link.

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Credenda's avatar

God bless Peter McCullough for having the courage to state these things so clearly! His words will be heard by a wider audience and will result in less life-altering chronic disease and disability among our little ones. He is doing the Lord’s work.

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Elaine Seinfeld's avatar

he is CONTROLLED OPPOSITION!

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Possibly there is a link to trying to protect certain people from the consequences coming down?

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Lil M.'s avatar

Thank you for the heads up... I just watched Polly's video and will check out the substack post later. Not sure I trust any of them now.

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JMH75's avatar

I never thought of the pain and suffering the covid campaign as a trade off to the destruction of the vaccine program. But I want nothing more than for that to be shattered into a million pieces. Freeing future generations of Autism, SIDS, allergies and a plethora of autoimmune diseases! Can anyone even fathom the government admitting that vaccines cause Autism? And the subsequent reparation requests that might arise from it? I think the revolution comes when enough people realize it's all BS and stop taking their junk injections.

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Lil M.'s avatar

Sadly, some are so brainwashed that they will probably never realize or admit that they were duped. I know some of those types. When you mention anything that goes against their narrative, they go berserk and are unable to discuss it like a sane, rational human being. Then they tell you "we need to agree to disagree" and that is that.

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