23 Comments
User's avatar
⭠ Return to thread
RJ Rambler's avatar

So true about all things "preventative medicine"! I.e. mammograms, and colonoscopy!

And then there's the fact that more ppl die of malpractice, before Covid!, than diseases!!

Expand full comment
Dawn B's avatar

What's bad about a colonoscopy? I am scheduled to have one but I just want to know what is going on. I won't be taking their "cure" if thay find anything though.

BTW When I went for the consultaion, they were surprised I was not taking any medications.

Expand full comment
Frontera Lupita's avatar

Well I have had 1 colonoscopy and it will be the LAST ONE! No need for it. So the ‘docs’ will tell you you had some polyps (which most older adults do), that they ‘removed’ and to come back in 5 years. No mention of a diet or lifestyle changes that could be implemented to mitigate the formation of said polyps. All this regular ‘diagnostic testing’ is one GIANT ‘revenue generating’ scam. For the doctors, hospitals and ‘clinics’ that do these ‘Scans’.

So what will you do if they tell you that you have colon cancer...will you begin immediate radiation and chemo treatment and totally ‘f**k up your body?

I am a 70 year old healthy woman and I am done with all that ‘testing’...mammograms, bone density scans, colonoscopies, et al.

Expand full comment
Truth Seeker's avatar

Right there with you. Can't believe we bought into it (literally) for all those years. Our eyes have been opened and we are now free.

Expand full comment
InquizitiveOne's avatar

Amen, sister! I had one colonoscopy at 45 because I worked in endoscopy in the past. I had no polyps or diverticulum. I’ve since learned that a flexible sigmoidoscopy is as effective at finding cancers but not as risky for perforation. I had a friend who was perforated and suffered terribly with peritonitis and nearly died after having this happen!

It’s not worth it! I also tried the mammogram thing, but due to Lt breast reduction, they did that one twice. Then did an ultrasound. It’s scar tissue from the surgery! Anyway, the next year, same story: mammogram, repeat mammogram, repeat sonogram... But this time I could see a brightening of the scar tissue from the previous year. I decided that maybe irradiating my left breast 4 times in two years wasn’t a good idea!

I vowed never again.

I’ll have a thermogram of my whole body one of these days. Then I’ll repeat it in three months. Then annually. It’s very accurate unlike mammograms

Expand full comment
San's avatar

Thermography is amazing!

If men had to have their penis smashed every year between two metal plates with some radiation mixed in - this mammogram garbage would have ended!

Our American “hell”thcare “system” is becoming very scary.

Thankful for genuine emergency help & intervention. The rest is mostly for money & profit driven by the corporatist system.

https://rumble.com/v2bz64o--dr.-david-martin-talks-about-the-timeline-of-events-of-the-global-covid-19.html

Expand full comment
Dawn B's avatar

I hope it is only a bleeding polyp. It is scheduled for Apr 11th, so if you see me on here, you can ask and I will tell you what happened.

I will definitely not take their cancer fixing/causing drugs, but have a plan.

Thanks, appreciated...

Expand full comment
Truth Seeker's avatar

Dawn, if you won't take the cure, why bother to take the test? I gave up on them years ago. There is also the possibility of your colon being punctured. Think of the colonoscopy like the mammogram--an income stream.

Expand full comment
Dawn B's avatar

Because if it is cancer then I have to do a different protocol.

Expand full comment
Kalinda's avatar

If this doesn't give you pause, I don't know what will. Any scopes, including an endoscope, cannot be properly sterilized, and the 'disinfecting' process is not all that complete, either.

"FDA Says It's Impossible to Completely Clean Dirty Scopes"

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-says-it-s-impossible-completely-clean-dirty-scopes-n404396

"Two recent studies underscore the threat: A paper published in March found that 71 percent of reusable medical scopes deemed ready for use on patients tested positive for bacteria at three major U.S. hospitals."

"Then a May study concluded that infection rates are far higher than previously believed after colonoscopies and upper GI endoscopies. For instance, the infection rate within seven days of a routine colonoscopy at an outpatient surgery center is roughly 1 in 1,000, the Johns Hopkins University study determined.

It was previously thought to be about 1 in a million."

https://californiahealthline.org/news/time-for-that-colonoscopy-probe-your-doc-first-on-how-the-scopes-are-cleaned/

Expand full comment
Frontera Lupita's avatar

These days ANY procedure done like this in a hospital or clinic type of setting like a gastrointestinal lab is fraught with all kinds of bad bacteria and infectious s**t…Fortunately I did my colonoscopy almost 4 years ago. And I’m not planning on doing it again. I decided on that right after I had my first ( and last one)…the ‘clean out’ part of it was so nasty that I sad no way again. (And this is from a person who has had many ‘colonic’ treatments over the years! They are nothing compared to a colonoscopy!

Expand full comment
CeCe Brown's avatar

I've been reading some on this topic. I am not getting another one. Too many risks for my comfort. Other less invasive screeners are available but they don't make enough money off of them. I do have a friend who almost died after routine colonoscopy. Luckily she went to emergency room in time. Punctured colon.

Expand full comment
Dawn B's avatar

This is not a screening. It is a symtomatic colonoscopy. It will be my last one, but I will know what it is if I get the symptoms again. Thanks.

Expand full comment
Truth Seeker's avatar

They can do a fecal test. I've also heard that Israel offers a blood test for colon cancer. Point being, there are inexpensive, non-invasive options.

Expand full comment
Dawn B's avatar

Can't find the thread where you said ask the doctor...

What do I ask?

Hey how many bowels have you perforated?

I am going to call and ask the techs, look up the doctor's rating, and also ask them how to they sterilize the scopes/tools...

What else?

Expand full comment
Howling for Harmony's avatar

I read recently that many hospitals don't use the right cleaning agent on the equipment, so you can fill the blanks in there. Apparently there's more than one way to disinfect and the cheaper way is what many will use. This was on Dr. Mercola's substack. There also was a hospital in the news a few years ago that declared their staff didn't clean things right and passed along hepatitis, etc.

Expand full comment
Leo's avatar

What's bad about colonoscopy?

-The home fecal test is exactly as accurate as the invasive colonoscopy.

-A friend's colon was punctured during the scoping and she nearly died from blood loss.

-The scope cannot be properly sterilized.

Expand full comment
RJ Rambler's avatar

I know of two others, one was a emergency nurse of thirty years, who nearly died from bleeding after it.

Expand full comment
RJ Rambler's avatar

Think invasive, research. If you don't have issues then why make one? And is there any ability to PROVE the results without "the testimony of two or hree witnesses" that are unrelated? Hardly. I'm afraid many would be better of dying natural death. 🤷🏻‍♀️😑 They COULD be helpful and knowledgeable if they wanted to and would!

Expand full comment
User's avatar
Comment deleted
Mar 23, 2023
Comment deleted
Expand full comment
Dawn B's avatar

So true! I need to know how to proceed. It's nothing good, but if it is a fissure, polyp, or cancer, I can take appropriate action. My diet has definitely changed as most important.

Expand full comment
Roger Beal's avatar

Cologuard, for starters. Reasonably accurate and totally non-invasive ... plus you get to secretly giggle as you set the innocuous little white box on the post office counter, knowing it contains a frresh turd!

Expand full comment
Dawn B's avatar

It is a long story why I chose to do it and several reasons.

*My dad died of colon cancer 7 years ago that he could have prevented.

*I was bleeding a year ago, took MMS a while, and it cleared up.

*My husband wants me to.

*My symptoms started again and have not cleared up for a month, but this time I have a lot of pain in my back....but I did lift 60 lg. bags of dirt at the same time the other symtoms started so...

I am usually healthy as a horse, take no meds, and work out 4-5x a week.

BUT, I did get my box of dewormer today! The parasite detox contains diatomaceous earth, green montmorillonite, and activated charcoal.

Expand full comment