A Canadian once told me (when describing Canada's inferiority complex) than Canada was very proud of its unique entertainment culture separate from the US. But then on the other hand, Canadian entertainers were not considered to have "made it" until they were widely accepted in the US. That's what validated them and it resulted from being dominated by US culture. She thought it was profoundly unhealthy.
We conservatives are the same way unfortunately. Bill Maher is a left-wing jerk but we get all excited when he says something sort of conservative? Similarly, news that has been known for years in conservative circles is considered to have "made it" when the MSM is finally forced to cover it. We are dominated by left-wing culture and are thrilled by any attention we receive from it.
None of this is healthy, we should not be seeking approval from those who hate us. I could care less what Bill Maher says after decades of repeatedly dehumanizing those with which he disagrees (mainly Christians, conservatives, and the rural folks). The man is an arrogant, secular buffoon and should be ignored. Of course, the woke stuff is evil and wrong, anyone with half a brain and some conscience can see that.
If we are going to talk about left-wingers lets keep it to those who actually maintained their humanity over the years like Jimmy Dore, RFK Jr., and Naomi Wolf. We ended up on the same page as these folks through common decency, not from being a stopped clock that happened to be right.
Part of me says, “to hell with Bill Maher because it’s been his leftist agenda that got us to this place, and now that he’s experiencing the ugly but inevitable results, he shouldn’t be complaining.” On the other hand, he has a leftish audience and the media moguls still allow him to speak because he still hates the right, but I’ll take a takedown of the left from wherever it comes. The moment Maher stops hating the right, he’s gone faster than the so-called protection from the jab.
Yes that is what I am thinking as well. We don’t need it for validation, but as a hope to wake up some people in a different political camp who will never listen to us no matter how much sense we make or how correct we are.
True but I would not say that he red-pilled as I'm sure there is plenty of political stuff in which we disagree. What we do share is a strong belief in the pursuit of truth, free speech, and personal autonomy. The insane left has become so intolerant and rigid in enforcing their dogmatic agenda, that "normal" Democrats that believe in shared universal truths seem like conservatives.
Good points! But Bill’s rants against wokeism at least have to make his longtime friends think a bit. He could be planting a seed in their woke brains that will grow. Just a “theory” & perhaps a hope.
"we should not be seeking approval from those who hate us" Yes, 100%. And Maher is a special kind of sicko to relish watching his audience clap for their own idiocy.
Excellent points made. Thank you. I was part of the group celebrating Mahers seemingly change of perspective. Boy I get so confused lately!!! I’m just going to keep praying!!
Confusing is right, lots of people putting up a finger in the wind to see which way it is blowing and then alter their schtick to follow the trend. That includes some in Congress and some on the right as well. Like Ben Shapiro and the jabs. Or most of the R's for the Jan 6 prisoners. The good guys (and gals) are getting harder to find.
I agree, but realize we had been conditioned to think that Faux News was the Conservative standard. Sadly, we found there are places they won’t go. Wokeism is just another smoke and mirrors to cover what people won’t face.
I've been a Jimmy Dore fan for several years. I think I found him shortly after the last chemical weapon hoax in Syria. Bill Maher is contemptable for many reasons, but he has been criticizing wokeism for 2-3 years at least. He also tried to moderate some of the worst of the Branch Covidianism without being vaccine injured.
Great point. And it works in reverse. Garbage that happens on the coasts eventually wends its way to the middle of the country where we in flyover land get looked down upon for our being behind the times/ignorant/whatever other -ist you want to include. I say let the coasts keep their superiority complex, we don't want the lefties moving here anyway.
Yeah. He is only changing his tune because there's money to be made by now saying we have gone too far left. It's douche bags like him who are part of the problem to begin with. Screw hollywood and all the msm tools.
Nothing worse than watching a true Heel trying to execute a Face Turn. As an avid long time follower of professional wrestling I’d suggest to Mr Marr that he abandon the storyline. Nobody’s buying it.
Bill Whatshisname...the pothead who stated "I'd crash the economy to get rid of Trump. Happily."
Shocked his studio full of trained clapping seals, did he?
Lord help us when this jagoff makes news for talking sense.
A Canadian once told me (when describing Canada's inferiority complex) than Canada was very proud of its unique entertainment culture separate from the US. But then on the other hand, Canadian entertainers were not considered to have "made it" until they were widely accepted in the US. That's what validated them and it resulted from being dominated by US culture. She thought it was profoundly unhealthy.
We conservatives are the same way unfortunately. Bill Maher is a left-wing jerk but we get all excited when he says something sort of conservative? Similarly, news that has been known for years in conservative circles is considered to have "made it" when the MSM is finally forced to cover it. We are dominated by left-wing culture and are thrilled by any attention we receive from it.
None of this is healthy, we should not be seeking approval from those who hate us. I could care less what Bill Maher says after decades of repeatedly dehumanizing those with which he disagrees (mainly Christians, conservatives, and the rural folks). The man is an arrogant, secular buffoon and should be ignored. Of course, the woke stuff is evil and wrong, anyone with half a brain and some conscience can see that.
If we are going to talk about left-wingers lets keep it to those who actually maintained their humanity over the years like Jimmy Dore, RFK Jr., and Naomi Wolf. We ended up on the same page as these folks through common decency, not from being a stopped clock that happened to be right.
Great points. And Jimmy Dore has been amazing since he red pilled. And Russel Brand. Their youtube chans are great.
Part of me says, “to hell with Bill Maher because it’s been his leftist agenda that got us to this place, and now that he’s experiencing the ugly but inevitable results, he shouldn’t be complaining.” On the other hand, he has a leftish audience and the media moguls still allow him to speak because he still hates the right, but I’ll take a takedown of the left from wherever it comes. The moment Maher stops hating the right, he’s gone faster than the so-called protection from the jab.
I’m fine with it because I hope he wakes up the middle but left leaning folks who would not otherwise wakeup (not woke).
Yes that is what I am thinking as well. We don’t need it for validation, but as a hope to wake up some people in a different political camp who will never listen to us no matter how much sense we make or how correct we are.
True but I would not say that he red-pilled as I'm sure there is plenty of political stuff in which we disagree. What we do share is a strong belief in the pursuit of truth, free speech, and personal autonomy. The insane left has become so intolerant and rigid in enforcing their dogmatic agenda, that "normal" Democrats that believe in shared universal truths seem like conservatives.
Just so you know Russell Brand is married into the Rothschild family, the niece of one of the patriarchs.
Good points! But Bill’s rants against wokeism at least have to make his longtime friends think a bit. He could be planting a seed in their woke brains that will grow. Just a “theory” & perhaps a hope.
🗨 Some fell on stony ground [...], and because it had no root it withered away 🤷
exactly!
"we should not be seeking approval from those who hate us" Yes, 100%. And Maher is a special kind of sicko to relish watching his audience clap for their own idiocy.
Excellent points made. Thank you. I was part of the group celebrating Mahers seemingly change of perspective. Boy I get so confused lately!!! I’m just going to keep praying!!
Confusing is right, lots of people putting up a finger in the wind to see which way it is blowing and then alter their schtick to follow the trend. That includes some in Congress and some on the right as well. Like Ben Shapiro and the jabs. Or most of the R's for the Jan 6 prisoners. The good guys (and gals) are getting harder to find.
But at least we have Jeff and the C&C army!
You got that right!!
I agree, but realize we had been conditioned to think that Faux News was the Conservative standard. Sadly, we found there are places they won’t go. Wokeism is just another smoke and mirrors to cover what people won’t face.
I've been a Jimmy Dore fan for several years. I think I found him shortly after the last chemical weapon hoax in Syria. Bill Maher is contemptable for many reasons, but he has been criticizing wokeism for 2-3 years at least. He also tried to moderate some of the worst of the Branch Covidianism without being vaccine injured.
Great point. And it works in reverse. Garbage that happens on the coasts eventually wends its way to the middle of the country where we in flyover land get looked down upon for our being behind the times/ignorant/whatever other -ist you want to include. I say let the coasts keep their superiority complex, we don't want the lefties moving here anyway.
I agree about ignoring him and so I have, for decades. I always skip over anything that says his name.
Well stated!!!
💬 I could care less what Bill Maher says
So why won’t ya, huh? Better still, don’t care a whit—follow your own sound advice 😝
Yeah. He is only changing his tune because there's money to be made by now saying we have gone too far left. It's douche bags like him who are part of the problem to begin with. Screw hollywood and all the msm tools.
This is at least the second time this Trump hating curmudgeon has dropped truth bombs on his show. Bizarre times, indeed.
Agreed
Nothing worse than watching a true Heel trying to execute a Face Turn. As an avid long time follower of professional wrestling I’d suggest to Mr Marr that he abandon the storyline. Nobody’s buying it.