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If people had just used their common sense and not bought into the obvious lies the FDA was selling, nobody would have taken the venom injection in the first place. All one had to do was look at what they were changing to know the scamdemic was a coup of reality:

Hmmm... so this coronavirus with a ludicrous survival rate for those who catch it can only be defeated by:

The media no longer asking questions and doing journalism, and instead becoming the mouthpieces of the government

Washed up formerly rebellious artists and musicians making demands that everyone now must do whatever 'the man' tells them to do

The consolidation of state and corporate power

The strip-mining of personal liberties

The mandating of masks, social distancing, and stay at home orders

The outlawing of criticism of public health officials, big pharma, and uncensored speech

The outlawing of century old drugs and treatment protocols.

Nutrition, diets, and exercise are no longer a factor to health.

The deification of 'the science', and the persecution of anyone debating or questioning it

The bastardization of language, altering the meanings and definitions of century old and universally understood words

The proliferation of contact tracing digging into the communications, associations, and actions of all citizens

The destruction of the world’s economy, supply chains, and work ethic

And the repeated forced injections of barely tested gene expression modifying concoctions into the arms of every person on the planet?

The hell with it, I'll put up with the virus, thanks.

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Not everyone possess a good dose of common sense, and it can't be taught in school or created in a laboratory.

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And the vast majority still believe everything they hear/see from Main Stream Media. People that read Substacks like this one are a very small minority.

Anecdotally, I awoke this morning around 6:00 a.m. for work. As I was making myself coffee, I looked across the street at my neighbor's house. I could see CNN blasting away on their 80" TV in their living room. This happens daily.

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The big brother indoctrination machine is visible in most homes these days - people get up and the first thing they do is turn on CNN or in Canada, CP24 - these people need to get a dog and go for a walk before they do anything else, just sayin'.

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CP24 = Communist Propaganda 24 hours per day. As you will recall during the “pandemic” - they showed Covid case numbers in every area of Ontario like every 5 minutes. It was this hysteria vs. Reality that made me start to question the whole narrative. And then I discovered that the whole thing was a scam. Government and media can never ever be trusted again.

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it was the continuous repeat of -the virus started at a wet market in Wuhan bla bla bla that I saw on TVs where I helped out, that made me suspicious. Normally you hear a little difference here and there, but repeating like a worn record, that was funny. I am surprised no one else noticed. I only had to hear it a dozen times to realize something was off. And i missed the numbers of the Diamond princess, which would have told everyone who has ears, that this was not a dangerous or deadly virus. I only saw them from Alex Berenson's substack months later

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In July of 2019, I’d read about this Chinese couple who had been taken into custody for biological espionage. They worked in a high level bio lab in Canada and, every few months, went home to Wuhan, China, where they worked in a lab there as well. They were charged and put in prison. When the virus came out and the powers-that-be denied it was made in a lab, I remembered that article. Definitely made in a lab.

Now, it makes me wonder if they were trying to get ahead of the story that it was lab-made, or, perhaps, they were going to try to frame this couple/China, but decided against it because that would implicate the Canadian government with creating biological weapons.

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That's what El Rushbo called "the narrative": Pushed out early every morning by someone in The Regime, picked up and spewed by every fool in the MSM.

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Totally Agree, thanks for sharing!

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Mike Canary it was the same in the uk, 24/7 we had case counting updates showing on the screen.

I was working so escaped the majority of the claptrap, funnily enough being at work and speaking to people totally contradicted the tv nonsense

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Reminds me of "Fahrenheit 451" where all the books were burned (censorship) but there were big screens spewing propaganda in all homes....creepily familiar ☹️

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Me too! So parallel. Haunting.

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Our tv never goes to msm … as it causes us to become nauseous and sometimes our eyes get stuck in the top of our heads.

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These people need to dump their TV and refrain from MSM news.

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They will never. In order for them to exist in this world they need constant reinforcement of their trusted beliefs....and the powers that be know this.

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“I have yet to meet in my life someone who allowed a fact to overwhelm a belief” (Dr David Martin)

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Or get up and immediately read Coffee and Covid!

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They do. I try not to be shocked by it but I am. No matter how many times they get covid they still view those shots as a life saver. Irony is lost to them.

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They say they would have died otherwise.

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How do you argue against "I'm not dead am I?" Nothing gets through to these people and the only time they'll see the truth is through their own death. I pity these people with their denial and ignorance. I would much rather suffer with the truth than be as they are.

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One could argue "I'm not dead and I haven't taken any vaccines"

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I know this is going to seem a little off topic but my son’s high school is initiating mandatory lanyards this year for students to wear their ID 24/7. I received this information via email a week or so ago with no prior warning that this was even in the works. I emailed the superintendent and assistant superintendent my thoughts on putting the onus of school safety and protection on the students rather than the school. I suggested this was a “show me your papers” type of scenario all day long! I asked who would be policing these IDs? Would those policing the ID’s only be looking for the lanyard and not the actual face of the student? They responded by asking me to meet in person, along with the principal which I did, and when I asked how many other parents wrote in to complain they said none...just me!! I live in a red county. There are over 500 kids in the school! I wonder if all the parents were watching CNN when that email came in?

I warned them that this type of mandatory “show me your papers” was going to evolve into biometric ID facial recognition scans to get into school; their response was that they would most likely have metal detectors before it ever got to that!!! Our kids are doomed unless more of us speak out!

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When I tried to get my husband's cardiologist to write an exemption for the covid shots his employer mandated in Oct. '21, they looked at me in disbelief, and said he was the only patient they had that didn't want to take the shots. This was after the CDC had already admitted the shots cause myocarditis. I have been marginalized by most mainstream medical professionals and local public and elected officials throughout this whole process. And it doesn't matter how many VAERS reports I share with them, or studies from qualified MDs and scientists that disagree with the media's and bureaucratic agencies narrative.

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I had to get an exemption letter from my son's cardiologist as well. Luckily I was aware very early on, and I got one by stating my fear of the potential for myocarditis, and that I would like to take a watchful waiting approach for awhile to see what the data showed. Had I waited to get that letter by one month, I would have been denied!

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That's great you got the letter! I first asked my husband's cardiologist to write him an exemption letter in June of 2021, because I was anticipating mandates. I brought her all the CDC' s VAERS reports (double-sided printed an inch thick, just cardiac adverse effects) and some articles from Dr Peter McCullough. Without saying a word she sat down at the computer and wrote a letter to my husband's employer (Harvard) that he should not be allowed into the office until he had taken the vaccines. They still had him full-time remote. When he got the mandate in October, we went to a different cardiologist, and he started screaming at me during the appointment, because I asked him if he listened to Dr. Peter McCullough,and he said he didn't need to listen to him, because he watched CNN, and heard about him there. 🤢

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"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it." Upton Sinclair

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If that is even true. There could have been others but they want to make you feel something is wrong with you.

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Red state means Republican, not necessarily conservative, sadly. You are doing the right things, don't stop just because everyone seems to be in a perpetual dazed and confused state.

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Agreed. Some of us have to survive this war, to carry on the pureblood human genome.

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A couple months back one of our local TV news stations ran a happy-clappy story about Tulsa Hills Shopping Center implementing a camera systemur with live tie-in to the Tulsa Police Department. Every car or vehicle that goes into the shopping center has its license plate scanned "for our safety."

As far as I know and can tell, I'm the only person who objected to this massive overreach, but then I usually am.

Every one else goes about their way, happy to be surveilled by our massive and growing fascist corporate-police state coop.

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"The Welfare of the people... has always been the alibi of tyrants... giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience." Albert Camus

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Just like I am fully expecting TpTB to take cash away 'for our safety' because drug dealers work with cash. But, then again, I imagine pedos do to. "Oh, just VENMO me the 800 bucks for that child porn I sent you". You think PayPal is coming down hard on the child sex traffickers and canceling them? And...the new law to have to report any little amount you make to the IRS and how you made it? I see the hammer.

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I wonder if they track and report those transactions as closely as they do firearm sales. Actually, I don't wonder. Of course they don't.

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You're lucky they advised you of it.

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I missed this bit of news. :(

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Here in Duval County, Florida, I know high school and middle school students, as well as staff are required to wear school issued ID’s on a lanyard during school hours. It’s been implemented for years. With the size of enrollment at some schools, it does help to identify if a student does or does not belong on campus. Starting this new school year, I don’t agree with the chip added to their ID. Unique to each student.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2023/06/02/dcps-students-getting-new-id-cards-next-school-year-with-new-technology/

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Wow!! Thanks for sharing. I think this might be the only way we will ever know what is really going on. What state are you in?? Oh, wait. Just read your handle. NY?? Haha. Maybe it will be to swipe to open doors or something 'for their safety'? People are like the frogs in a pot of boiling water...

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The surveillance already may be deeper than we think. On Monday I was in a car, four hours from home, with four other people, all with iPhones. We passed a business I’d never heard of, and I mentioned I’d like to know more about it. No more was said about it. Yesterday, on our way home, I checked my email and had received an email from that very business, a chatty introduction to their products and a link to their blog. Other than sidebar ads generated by my actual browsing, I’d never experienced this, and thought I never would because we don’t do Siri, Alexa and such. But it seems something is listening to speech anyway.

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Around the time Edward Snowden was prominently in the news I remember quite a lot about the 24/7 “listening and watching” even when the mic and camera functions are “off”.

The time is soon upon us when to have a conversation in person that we wish not to go into the profiles being built for each one of is, we will need to use methods discussed elsewhere to ensure our many devices are not picking up what we are saying and doing.

This, in addition to rewriting and deleting information everywhere. I don’t have means or space to collect hard copy books; I urge all who can to get your hands on as many books as possible and store them somewhere safe from the elements. Isn’t that what St Patrick did when the “hordes” invaded, burned and pillaged Ireland, thereby “saving western civilization”?

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Oh right - lanyards/guards/robots are all impervious to bullets.

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That's probably how they keep their Mass Formation Psychosis fully charged; a MFP daily booster.

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My neighbors are jabbed although the wife openly admits to regretting it and vows never to get another. Her husband is still all-in, as far as I know.

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Based on your description of your "hood", or lack there-of, we might be neighbors.

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Here's a fine rant by a UCMed Research oncologist with a substack who has a certain authority for the less awakened based on his pretty orthodox medical ideas, i.e. randomized controlled trials are the only gold standard, public health has a mission in the US, etc. It might convince the MSM watchers:

The Fall COVID19 Booster is a PUBLIC HEALTH FIASCO - It has no clinical evidence| Total Scam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmZzZIcqIrI

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How accurate his comments about had Trump been president. Indeed our buffoon VP and the squad were squawking just prior to the election that they REFUSED to take the vaccine because it was rushed to market during Trump's presidency. As soon as they were sworn in they changed their tune. Such hypocrites

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Vinay Prashad makes some very good points. But what will Fauci and all the others who are financially benefitting from pushing the covid vaccines care in 50 years? They will have been long dead, and had a great laugh all the way to the bank while pushing shots on the suckers

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"I pity the FOOL" Mr T

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I’m sorry u live that close to someone.

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LOL. We live in a rural area in the south and their house is up the road and across the street. Their TV is that big and CNN is easily recognizable.

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Too bad they have more money than sense.

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That describes well over half of America's current population.

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Lol. Ok glad to hear it. Feel for the apartment/ condo dwellers. 😊

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😂

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It’s crazy. I don’t know when I stopped watching the morning news. It’s been probably 5-6 years, maybe longer. And the news we watched was more entertainment than the regular news. I don’t think I ever really watched the evening news, not even as a kid. I was too busy with life.

The only reason I watched the morning news was because of my husband, but, as as soon as I was no longer interested, the TV went off and he doesn’t watch it either. This has turned out to be a really good result. I’ve been skeptical of MSM for a few decades. My husband believed. I’m full of “conspiracy theories”, at least, that’s the impression I got from him, even as the pandemic progressed. He followed the celebrities on Twitter and Instagram, believed the crap they were saying. I’m not exactly sure when his eyes were opened, but, the other day, he said something that the media would say is a conspiracy theory, and I was never more proud. LOL

Honestly, whether it was my influence or all of the stupid craziness of these past three years, but he’s finally seeing what’s happening. He doesn’t trust them anymore. He’s questioning. It’s fabulous! And it gives me hope because he was pretty fairly ensnared in that mess.

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Mine too!!! Thank God!!!

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It's enough to make one wanna weep

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What gets me is that after all of the jab injuries & DEATHS for goodness sakes, ppl are STILL getting boosters! I mean, it doesn’t take a genius to discern truth from bs, not to mention all of the studies & EVIDENCE that’s come out! Just you guys wait & see, they will start the lock downs & jabs again this fall. Sadly, many will fall for it again! Hopefully, the majority will NOT COMPLY! RESEARCH! Turn of the MSM & research.Yours or a family member’s life just might depend upon it.

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The MDHHS is putting out a new series of commercials aimed at the Saturday college football watching crowd. “ Protect your children with the new BS variant booster. Keep them safe.” They are making these boosters into the yearly flu shot. And that’s why people are so naive. The Michigan Dept of Health wouldn’t lie to them…😢

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And this is what disgusts me when my husband watches sports.

Myself… I would be happy to never see sports in my home again.

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The dumbing down that's been going on for years has been a great success.

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I've mentioned this before but I work with a guy who has causally informed me of all five shots he's had - the first two Pfizer, two boosters, and the bivalent booster - and his bad reactions to each shot. I'm a confident that he will receive, announce, and have a bad reaction to the next shot when it is introduced this Fall.

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I for one won't be complying with anything out of this illegitimate administration of globalist tyrants no matter what the cost. I'm on the hill now and there is zero that they can do about it.

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Yes. People don't think. They would rather get spoonfed by nonsense because if they hear it it must be true

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especially when they hear it 24/7 from ALL the MSM channels

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🤮🤮🤮

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I just read a Naomi Wolf substack stating that she generates more hits/views than CNN. There are more of us than we think.....

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I drove down the street this morning and saw a guy in his car by himself with A MASK ON! 🤪

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yet from what I hear CNN's ratings are going down

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80 inches of utter twattery and filth to keep them in their hypnosis.

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With many.....many....many people

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geeeeezzz

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Usually though, people acquire common sense based on their life experiences and hard lessons learned. At least that's what happened to me.

So common sense should be roughly in proportion to one's gray hair. As Proverbs 16:31 put it: "The silver-haired head is a crown of glory, If it is found in the way of righteousness."

But with regards to the vax, and frankly all things Covid, the elder set were the least rational, the least questioning, the most demanding, and the most fearful. The inversion of standard reality where the oldest are supposed to be the wisest.

Something is really off with all of this.

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Not all of us. I am 71 and my husband is 72. We tried to talk to others our age, but it seems they are so trusting of mainstream media and just cannot see the truth. I decided early on that I could not prevent myself getting covid and perhaps dying, but I could prevent harm from the jabs. As a follower of Christ I am in a win win situation. "To live is Christ and to die is gain." Hard to understand so many others being so fearful.

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Totally agree, Annie. I am 76 and the extreme over reaction and weird advice to stay out of the hospital until you're nearly dead, etc. made me determined to deal with Covid rather than the government. I, too, realized that my life is in God's hands and if He wanted to take me to His presence by means of Covid, then so be it.

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This is what it's all about. Christian or not, faith was the deciding factor in whether one took it or not.

And I'm editing in again to add my mother has always been a christian and took every jab (ended up in an Altz. home), and I rejected the church though not the principle and stayed well clear of them.

It's confusing to think I had more faith in God than she did...

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Fear is of the flesh, and the more we engage in it, the stronger its hold becomes.

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The battle of the "F" words: Faith over fear.

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Anne, you’re so right! It was very sad to see the level of fear among so many people. Among most of our Christian friends, it was more a case of brainwashing by the media, although some were very fearful. One especially sad couple was a retired pastor and his wife. They rarely came to church, and when they did, they were masked and their fear was palpable. I had looked up to him as an intelligent, strong leader…what a disappointment!

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Jeffs Substack on Covid and 'The Church' is most excellent!!

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Yes it is!

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I have a friend (had really). She was so fearful of getting covid despite just age being her only risk at 66 then. Petrified. She had a bad hospitalization experience wears earlier which had likely colored her vision some, but it really is bc she listens to MSM and loves Liberalism!!! A former Long Island New Yorker to boot! She is so entrenched in her tribe liberal politics! Finally, I thought to myself after repeatedly trying to warn her of the risks, I don’t care if she gets a vaccine every 6 months!!!! She thinks she is right about all things. Good riddance and good luck. Hope her stomach issues don’t get worse. I tried to warn her.

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Isnt it sad that issues have become so political? People once had differences of opinion but were more fluid in their opinions-- before the propaganda cable networks became an obsession.

I always recognize a crazed liberal by their type of comments on FB. They hate religion and faith..So, I look at their page and it will be filled with ' I got the vaccine' stuff and Ukrainian flags .

Cable tv and the internet (more liberal news propaganda everywhere online) will one day be known as the tools of our destruction as a country. The internet has so much potential for good, but is used for way more bad.

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All by design. This may interest you if you have not yet seen it AngelaK: https://tritorch.com/folly

Politics is mind control.

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wonder how the fb liberal feels about over 1 million Ukrainians dead and many more harmed? how do they fill about vaccines not working but millions harmed and died because of it or bio weapon? Really want to know what they are thinking now?

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Like everything - racism, gender ideology - political polarization is fed and driven by a broader divide-and-rule strategy. Wound up, emotional, and fearful people are easier to manipulate and control. It's sad that too many people still do not understand this and how they are being manipulated. My aforementioned neighbors, for example, who are truly good people but tragically uninformed.

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Kudos to you and your husband for the gift of discernment from your loving creator! I was so appalled at the fact that my MIL told my son to just get the vaccine and also said the same thing to my husband. My husband was on it right from the start this was not good. My son was 26 and very healthy, as is my husband. Never before have we injured the young to protect the old. Evil abounds! Also a vaccine is SUPPOSED to protect the individual, so if this did why worry if others chose not to get it🤦‍♀️

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Amen, Anne.

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People in some of that generation, like my dad, were brought up to trust doctors unconditionally. And in his day, they were a lot more honorable than they are now (obviously not all are bad now) and actually did their jobs of healing. Now they are - for the most part - bought off by big pharma and have nothing to do with healing, only managing symptoms. But I think a lot of these older folks were still clinging to the idea that the profession is honorable so they will believe anything a doctor says.

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Yep, that is a huge part of it.

But that doesn't explain the irrational fear and things like demanding their grandkids get vaxxed to come over. I think it's because they largely abandoned Christianity, or cling to it as a cultural artifact rather than following the teachings of Christ. A lifetime of submission to Christ and biblical understanding gives one a far different perspective on the temporal nature of all of the things of this world.. The elderly used to have this, now it's lacking in many if not most.

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What a great point!

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My brother got the shot because he was over 65, he trusted science - actual science, (but somewhere along the line, the rules changed) and he did a lot of face to face meeting with medically frail, elderly people and he didn't want to get them sick. He wishes he hadn't gotten it. He wishes the medical system hadn't whored itself out to the highest bidder. Not all people got it because they lacked common sense or were frightened or were self seeking. Some people were trying to the best with the info they had.

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Actually, I think the greatest generation had a very healthy distrust of government and corporations. My mother always distrusted Big Pharma, and my father Big Oil (they are one and the same) , and the government. when the Queen came to Toronto in 1953, he would not walk around the block to see her. They also had to rely on themselves for survival . The mental midgets today are so dependent on the government for almost everything they have willingly given up their desire to think. It boggles my mind.

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dependence is what they want so they can comment their fraud and crimes

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Yes 💯.. You are absolutely correct!

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This! Boggles my mind! Numerous elderly folks I know who routinely say "you can't trust the government", yet they immediately lined up to get shots because that's what the CDC said to do. When I question them on the discrepancy between their usual government stance and getting the shots they don't have an answer. I think it all boils down to fear and they can't bring themselves to believe that anyone would be that evil.

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72 here and skeptical from the get go…or let go.. whatever. The 201 mtg was kind of a tip off. Like a rodeo of stake holders (snake oil salesman) and community leaders being lassoed by the global corporate virtue shaming gravy train. As per Jeff’s posted emails between these experts on how dangerous the jabs were… how do they cope with what they helped perpetuate? I think we need to start a ‘give send go to hell’ for these types.

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Not really. Think about it: they grew up in a different time, as did I, and probably many of us. However, as a younger boomer, I am more informed than a typical old timer would be

I have relatives in Europe and remember a time when their country was poor. We were proud that everything in the US was so exemplary: medicine (including vaccines), medical system, food, values, economy. We were blessed! This WAS a great country. My immigrant grandfather came here dirt poor and he proceeded to make an amazing life for himself and his family as a small business owner in NYC. My point of the story is that there was a time when everything was trusted in this country including the media and this country was great because everything was good, everything was possible, everything was hopeful.

Sadly, these people haven't caught on to the huge change that has occured here. My mother who passed away in January at the age of 88, did come to the realization of this change and it saddened her. She was a bit of a loner by nature, a huge history buff and intell ectual, so she engrossed herself on the internet. Her sadness started when she realized that the country she loved was not honorable in foreign policy and that the Democrats used unethical tactics from the Saul Alinsky playbook...

From there it was an easy road to not trusting the gvt anymore in anything so she didnt take vaccines. However, she was an enigma to others her age who were not as keen on research and the internet.

Those sweet older people do not know that our medicine is now for profit not health, our gvt is corrupt, our food is of low quality, our gvt agencies cannot be trusted, our media is leftist, communist, New world order (call it what you want) propaganda, and finally, that our country is in steep decline. 😢

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Oh my gosh I wish I could convince my mother to believe these things. She’s such a smart woman usually but she just can not believe that the fda and cdc are lying about anything at all. I’ve tried and tried to tell her that based on my own education and experiences (I’m a pharmacist ffs!) that it all smelled worse than the pig sties she had to clean as a kid growing up on the farm we later lived and raised calves on. It makes me so sad. 🙁

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This reality is a hard pill to swallow for those in their final golden years. I see that age brings a great vulnerability and sensitivity of spirit to even those who were once brave and strong. Perhaps it is best to let them be if they can't emotionally handle it? 🤷

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its what happen in Germany all over again. Govt lied and they walked to trains to their deaths with no bullets fired believing the lies all the time.

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My mother believed anything a Dr said. She ended up with a morphine pump in her back methadone, and several other meds. She died 18 years ago and my dad listened to me after years of meds for him. So much trust in a scam.

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its not our media but owned by the elites

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I have silver hair, so does my husband. All our friends are crowned with silver hair, and none of us took the jab.

The jab was forced on those in the nursing/assisted living homes. Many were coerced by their children. Neither of our children or any of our grands got it. Only our sil, who is very smart but has never had a lick of common sense in his life.

Most of the silver-haired people I know did not get the jab

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My siblings and husband’s siblings, of the silver-haired set, all drank the kool-aid. I’m still, may I use the word - baffled! And tremendously saddened.

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That’s good to hear, but my experience has been totally the opposite!

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Remember Ed Dowd's data. The largest group of excess deaths is the ones working for corporations with health insurance, ie. young, healthy, access to health care, good jobs, probably better life style. 40 % excess deaths over the general population , which includes All of the old people.

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Fear produces strange behaviors. I am no rocket scientist, but I figured it out practically on day one. But then again, maybe that rocket scientist comparison needs to be switched because they really never made it to the moon.

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Fear always prompts me to do research, because the more I know, the better I usually feel about a situation. My reading and research brought up information and questions that made me skeptical of the arguments being made about Covid and the supposed mitigation measures. But for some people, I think fear has the opposite effect. It shuts their brain down and they don’t think at all, just react.

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You are so right on. I have a friend who will not talk about anything nefarious because “ it upsets me too much.”

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That’s so weird to me, not knowing upsets me much more!

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Me too! My fear prompts me to research everything! lol.

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RL - you were smart enough to do your reading and research in areas other than the mainstream. Folks could do research 24/7 but if it is all from the same ilk, the research will give false information.

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Yes I guess my background has taught me to do that. If it’s all from the same ultimate source then you’re not getting the full story or the full range of options.

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I laugh everytime I see - we can land a man on the moon but can't . . .

best comedy bit ever.

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Fearful people are walking in the flesh.

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Many of the elderly were basically forced by their children and their doctors to get jabbed. It’s hard as a grandmother to not see family. I’m 73 and argued with my older son about this. I also argued with my rheumatologist. I told both NO, no fn way. I’m still and will remain unvaccinated unafraid unmasked. I know another in her 80s that only acquiesced to one jab because she wanted to travel again while she was able.

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You are right. I know someone in town who got her parents and invalid nephew jabbed early to protect them, and subsequently found out it was a huge mistake. She found out in time to keep her daughter and herself and husband unjabbed, but is plagued by the guilt of believing the media, the government , and medical mafia to the detriment of her kin. She told me this herself, and I don't see her often.

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Jeff C, I disagree with your statement that common sense is acquired with age, as you pointed out in your last paragraph. Common sense is an innate characteristic, those who have it were most likely born with it and inherited it much like their iQ. Some may learn to stop repeating mistakes through the school of hard knocks, but many never do. We have some interesting discussions about nature vs. nurture in our family. But I believe the Bible when it says that consequences are carried for 7 generations.

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Always appreciate your comments Freebird.

I think it's both in all honesty. My sixteen year old just has it instinctively, he asks himself "is this a good idea?" before venturing off into some dubious adventure. My 19 year old has to learn things the hard way unfortunately.

I learned things the hard way (alcoholism, drug addiction, self-pity as a teenager/young adult). Through God's grace I got sober in my mid-twenties and learned some hard lessons. And there's no one more intense and introspective than an ex screw-up who's turned their life around in my experience. We tend to not repeat the same mistakes.

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Thank God for your conversion Jeff!

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Freebird - you proved my intuition about acquiring common sense. I was leaning toward it coming from families who teach it and discuss discernment and common sense. Then you stated you had interesting discussion about nature vs. nurture in your family - there ya go!

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I agree with Jeff’s s reply that it’s some of both. It’s a complicated topic that we circle round and round. 😊 But I’d like to throw in another term that we often overlook in the discussion. Wisdom…..which is a lot like common sense, and may be mistaken for it; but it is a spiritual gift from God given to believers. Deeper and wider than common sense, and neither acquired nor inherited.

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Yes yes and yes! Thanks for that Freebird. Wise words and very deep. Blessings to you and yours.♥

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Many of them have been indoctrinated into following whatever their doctors say. Most of them are on multiple medications for whatever the current malady is. Many of them get the flu shot.

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You are correct in what should have happened, but more telling is the clear correlation of that generation getting us into this mess in the first place. Outsource to the experts, get all info from MSM, and never ask questions. It was the perfect generation to manipulate and it worked.

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My mom is 85. My sister and I are ferocious researchers when it comes to health, so she does trust us, but it took a little bit to convince her if she didn’t need it. By the way, my mom is probably going to outlive me that’s the type of shape she’s in, but that generation grew up for lack of a better word, worshiping doctors. Remember they had the education it was before the Internet before you could actually read scientific studies online, or do any type of research so that knowledge was only for the physicians not for the average person

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I was working in a grocery store in ‘20 & ‘21 so I saw all age groups. While people of all ages ranged from completely fearful to skeptical, overall the more mature customers trended skeptical and the younger trended fearful. Completely anecdotal and unscientific, just my observations.

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Operative word in the Proverb above "IF". Unfortunately many people have gray hair yet lived their life denying GOD therefore did not go the way of righteousness

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Kudos to you Ruth!

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Jeff C very interesting observation. Please expand further the "what is off with all of this". Was is just programing from Fox News? Cell phones? My Vax neighbor literally stated that if we didn't all get vaxxed the economy could never get going again.

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Yep. And they said I was uncaring, subhuman and other wonderful adjectives, oh and a conspiracy nut, as they keep going to the doc bc they don’t know what’s wrong w them.

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Same here. I now have become the elephant in the room. Unvaxxed, proud of it, and healthy. Wonder why 🤔

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Lol. Elephant is the room is so true!!! Went to a fam reunion and all I heard was talk about what health problems they had. Just sat there and drank my beer. Lol

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Christy it's so shocking to hear about all the new health problems from my vaxxed friends and family. Granted, I'm creeping up in age and stuff does start to fall apart. But WOW!! And someone actually commented to me how I'm never sick. Gee, I wonder why that is! They'll never put 2 and 2 together.

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I’ve had nine people close to me pass in the last 13 months. And I’m only 50. And my cousins and siblings talk about how sick they are. I swear all they do is talk about health issues. It’s just crazy and they all know how I feel, and I just get that glaze look over their eyes when I say anything so I don’t .

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You must have gotten drunk...hehe....sadly we can all recant the same stories....

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Lol. I had to behave bc my mom was there even tho I’m 50🤣🤣🤣. And it really is sad!

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My brother wouldn't allow me to visit our mother because he said, "you Christians and conservatives are putting everyone in danger." My cousin scolded me and said I needed to be jabbed for the good of others. My brother is totally estranged from me (but not just because of the jab issue) and I haven't talked to my cousin in many months.

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"you Christians . . ."

This is merely the overture.

We were told these things would happen. I find this comforting!

Edit: Not comforting in that the end, for many, will not be what they expect. We have work to do!

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Yes, we need to tell people how to be prepared for eternity. I hope to be able to have that conversation with my son later this month when we travel to Texas (if we can still travel then). He doesn't like to talk about it, but he's going to have to at least listen.

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