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Johnny Be Real's avatar

The FDA tweet “you are not a horse, ya’ll” was actually harmful. A person at work argued it was “horse paste” and they had no clue that it is an award-winning drug with decades of proven history. FDA=misinformation.

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AM's avatar

That tweet made me sick at the time (still does). How condescending and talk about misinformation. Plus it gave the ***holes license to be even more derisive to people who had legitimate questions.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Can we just get over the condescending Karen/Ken digs y’all?

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AM's avatar

Oh no, I’m sorry Karen and you’re totally right! That actually gets on my nerves too. Was posting too fast this morning!

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Thank you, glad I got it off my chest. 🌺

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AM's avatar

I edited - thanks for the heads up!

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

I know right. It’s probably annoying to Brandons too. Its a trend that will pass.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I’ve tried to stop calling people Dicks, it’s really hard to stop 😬🤣

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Dean's avatar

LOL!

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AM's avatar

:P

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Dean's avatar

Hahahaha! So sorry! 🤭

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Karen Bandy's avatar

That sounds like sorry, not sorry 😆

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Dean's avatar

Karen….I saw part of a reply from you about the Bend Oregon connection. I haven’t been able to locate that thread but I think you were asking where is HSV….it’s Huntsville AL aka Rocket City.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I replied in substack too!

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RSgva's avatar

Yes, it was intended to be patronizing to fly over country. Sickening.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yeah all of those “dumb” farmer types who didn’t know the difference between meds for humans and meds for animals 🙄🙄🙄 Their superiority complex is so sickening 😡

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richard's avatar

There is no difference between meds for people and humans. All drugs go through animal trials. There are a few drugs that are toxic on people but safe on certain animals, but a y drug that is used for both people and animals are the same drug.

Taking horse paste? It's as safe for you as it is for a horse. Just get the correct dosage

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes I know. Which is why this whole condescending attitude about people being “so dumb” that they use “animal medications” really galls me.

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Jpeach's avatar

Not only does Ivermectin help treat COVID but, lots of stories out recently on Ivermectin as part of a treatment for many cancers. It’s clear that inexpensive and effective Ivermectin threatened the Covid Vax Complex / Cancer Treatment Complex.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

I have also read about it as a cancer treatment. It was not shared as a treatment option by our oncologist when we were dealing with cancer. I’m still looking into it though.

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Kathy's avatar

Another promising cancer treatment is another anti parasitic drug called fenbendazole!

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Christy's avatar

Ty Kathy! I knew it started w aF

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Looking into that! Thanks!

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Emumundo's avatar

2nd smartest guy in the world has a substack covering ivermectin and fenbendazole.

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rolandttg's avatar

wife said Fenbendezole, which is just a more narrow spectrum anti parasite drug, is what put her cancer into remission. She took a lot of supplements, and did a number of holistic things, but swears by Fenben. She still takes it, and after listening to Dr. Lee Merritt talk about how parasites are behind most diseases, I just started a monthly dose (3X in a week). BTW we did it with NO involvement of an oncologist or any allopathic Dr. Plenty of information about doing it holistically out there to read. In our humble opinion, oncologists aer money grabbing evil quacks, in a profession that should be disbanded.

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Jpeach's avatar

2nd Smartest Guy in the World, Substack, has been promoting Ivermectin and Fenbendazole, as a cancer treatment , for a couple of years.

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Becky's avatar

Wondering how you obtained the fenbendazole. Does it require a prescription?

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Emumundo's avatar

I use Panacur C for dogs. 222 mg.per dose. I get mine at a local feed store, tractor supply or chewy.

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rolandttg's avatar

no. She took the 222 mg for a year and a half, then after she saw Dr. Tennant , he recommended the 500 mg. You can also buy it as Safeguard or Panacur for dogs and cats, , which is what she did before Big Pharma allowed it to be marketed directly to humans.

info@thehappyhealingstore.com

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Ann Moody's avatar

Nah, you can buy it on Amazon.

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daverkb's avatar

I wrote it down. Thanks.

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Peace's avatar

Also, lots of info from this Fenben Substack: https://fenbendazole.substack.com/archive?sort=new

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daverkb's avatar

Thanks!

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Joe Tippen has a protocol, he suggests getting a functional med person on board. Best of luck. ❤️

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Deb S's avatar

I wish there was a good source for a list of doctors who are willing to think holistically and go “outside the box” with their patients. My doc is totally “by the book”, but she knows I have critical thinking skills and always research the hell out of everything. Still, I would switch docs in a heartbeat if I found a local one who actually *thinks* about treatments and is open to all options.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I go to a regular doc for my Medicare annual, but have regular bloodwork through my naturopath. He has a doc in his office and we use her name when we do bloodwork. Naturopaths test for a lot more than regular docs do.

Functional medicine docs are usually pretty good, and anti-jabs. I think it’s best to have both kinds of docs, regular MDs and naturopath/functional med doc.

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Copernicus's avatar

FLCCC.net has a list of docs who prescribe for covid. So those docs may be at least more open minded. Some are conventional and some are functional med.

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Suzanne's avatar

Oncologists rarely mention anything other than a pharmaceutical drug. My daughter’s dr told us there was “no evidence” that any supplements helped mitigate cancer.

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Peace's avatar

The "no evidence" likely comes from no long-term placebo controlled studies having been done since the studies re so epensive that unless something is a new patentable drug, the study investors would never recoup their investment.

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Astragale's avatar

They’re such liars.

Horrible, dangerous liars.

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KBB's avatar

Dr Marik (FLCCC founder) has a book out recently thoroughly exploring alternative and adjunct treatments for cancer. It's called "Cancer Care: The Role of Repurposed Drugs and Metabolic Interventions in Treating Cancer."

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Copernicus's avatar

Have you seen Dr Marik’s book on alternative cancer therapies on the FLCCC.net website? You might be interested. And of course your oncologist is not going to share information about IVM. First, they likely have no clue as to its usefulness and second, it isn’t in any of their Guidelines, so they wouldn’t prescribe it for that reason.

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Being a Nancy's avatar

Fenbendazole

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Thank you!

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Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

The article I read in The Epoch Times, suggested it was not completely effective alone, but that it really enhanced chemotherapy and other therapies for cancer, with surprisingly potent results in a short time for some patients. (Maybe it targets the percentage of cancer that is bacteria or parasite driven?)

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Austin's avatar

I use it on my cold sores. Stops 'em and heals 'em......FAST.

But I think my teeth are getting bigger........ROFL.

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Kathy's avatar

It is also part of the protocols for recovery from damage from the jabs, due to its anti-inflammatory and immune modulating effects, as well as being anti-clotting

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Chelie's avatar

Epoch Times just ran an article about it.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Fake Data Administration

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Fred's avatar

FDA should have been required to paste a big red “RETRACTED” sign over it instead of a simple removal. Is a “we were wrong” label too much to ask?

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Debra (Rural & Red Oregonian)'s avatar

How about every single staff member or associate of the FDA have to wear a great big red "R" on their clothing every single day like the big "A" adulterous women had to wear back in the day? (The R could also stand for retarded. So.)

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daverkb's avatar

My vote is 'M' for murderer.

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Astragale's avatar

C - for corrupt & captured.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

💯‼️

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Gaye's avatar

“People are dead now because of what the FDA did. But the needle just moved a little in the right direction. The ivermectin horse is out of the barn. The FDA looks like a jackass.”

— Jeff Childers

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Shelle's avatar

Yes, it did a lot of harm. They wanted to place in people's minds that it was mock-worthy to even consider Ivermectin. It was a way to turn off careful thought before it even began. So many people lost their lives because they never got the right information. They didn't know where to find it and were made to feel foolish to look.

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RunningLogic's avatar

And were even actively prevented from accessing it!

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Michelle's avatar

USPS was even intercepting packages of ivermectin shipped from overseas and confiscating them.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I heard that too 😡

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Emergency authorization conditions as I understand it required that there were no other viable alternative treatments. So they needed to demonize alternatives to roll out the experiments without being sued.

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Paul Ashley's avatar

I was kicked off of a local Meetup site by self-proclaimed "experts" when I took to task two members who called me a fringe nut who believed in "horse-paste" ... because I mentioned that I didn't wear a mask! I will bet that to this day these "experts" think they did nothing wrong and would still claim that Ivermectin is solely a horse dewormer.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Apparently refugees are horses since it’s routinely prescribed for them 😑

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Open-minded inclusive bunch aren’t they… unable to explore information available.

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Paul Ashley's avatar

Able but unwilling perhaps?

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Debra (Rural & Red Oregonian)'s avatar

Gotta love a government that spreads misinformation like a wildfire disease and then harasses and jails normal citizens who question their sanity.

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Just_Henry's avatar

Fake Drug Advocates = FDA

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Janet's avatar

I’ve switched to aspirin from the other crap like Tylenol for pain relief which is actually more dangerous but big money makers. Aspirin has other health benefits. We’re being conned there too.

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Kathy's avatar

I agree with you, but aspirin is still an NSAID which can still cause internal bleeding. Occasional use is probably fine, but for long-term anti-inflammatory action one might consider something like serrapeptase and/or curcumin with piperine.

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AB's avatar

I like the curamed painkiller. Found it at our local health food store. It works quite well for any muscle / joint paint. I’m keeping aspirin in my medicine cabinet as well though. No more Tylenol.

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Barbls's avatar

Any pain med should be short term. If you have chronic inflammatory pain, examine your diet.

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Peace's avatar

I made note that the health industry stopped recommending daily usage of aspirin for older adults - during Covid they stopped recommending it. Interesting that aspirin just happens to be part of the protocol recommended to sail through covid symptoms. Timing was impeccable.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

That's how you knew that aspirin was a good treatment to prevent more severe cases of COVID - they stopped recommending it.

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Peace's avatar

Exactly!!

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Chelie's avatar

I pharmacist told me this years ago. It’s anti inflammatory effects are superior to other NSAIDS like ibuprofen. But use caution if you take NATTOKINASE or a prescription blood thinners.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Aspirin is very good drug. Take lots of water with it and and crush it into a powder first.

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MoM's avatar

Good morning PE Bird. Have you had positive outcomes with this. My husband tore his rotator cuff and it flares up from time to time.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

I thought PF made a joke based on FDA claiming that medicines used for animals are not effective in humans. IDK. Hard to tell in text. Anyway, per the FDA logic, aspire is good for horses, so humans shouldn’t use it because we are not horses, ya’ll! 😂😂

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rolandttg's avatar

Fenben, and ozone, are two of the keys to my wife beating cancer. And guess where she learned it? From a holistic vet who treated one of our dogs.

And we stopped taking ALL OTC (and scrip) painkillers. Even aspirin has undesirable side effects. Most cancer books also tell you there is an inverse relationship to longevity and the amount of antibiotics you take in your life.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Ozone! I’ve used it for years to remove smells from cars and rooms. Have not heard of the therapy but found this article thanks to your tip!

https://michaelkummer.com/health/ozone-therapy-benefits/

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rolandttg's avatar

We have an ozone air purifier we bought ~6 months ago, but bought an oxygen tank and an ozone maker to make ozone water, and use after an enema. Visited a specialist who used ultra pure 6 filter water and ozone to truly clean out your intestines, liver , gall bladder, everything. In a two hour session, he would pass ~60 gallons of water and ~11 liters of ozone through you. We only get roughly 750 ml and 52 gamma when use our home unit. We give the dogs ozone water every day. have tried it anally for them, but they really don't like it, so we stopped. Again, a vet is the first [person to recommend this (for the dogs)

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MoM's avatar

Yeah I stopped using Tylenol and switched to aspirin. I thought PE might know something I don’t.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Tylenol is a poison & you can commit suicide if you take over 1500 mg. If you take the normal dose, it damages your liver.. Tylenol ought to be withdrawn from the market. Also, it does not relieve pain.

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Michelle's avatar

Tylenol is also absolutely the worst thing you can give a baby/child after a vaccine. Makes things worse. Wish I'd known that too when my kids were little. (No, I would not vaccinate my kids for anything if I had it to do all over again.)

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Shelle's avatar

I got the joke, too:)

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Me's avatar

Safe and effective?

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

That’s awesome! 👏

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TNelius's avatar

My initial thought to the FDA tweet was to use their redefined terms of ‘identity’ and false narrative against them to stop this type of ‘hate speech’.

How dare you FDA! I identify as a horse, SO give me my ivermectin and no one gets stomped with my horse hooves! 🐎 🐴 🤨

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

LOL could someone identify as a horse but still get the human version? So many questions…

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TNelius's avatar

My response can only be ‘Neigh!’

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

👏 👏

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Janet's avatar

My sister did and she used it on horses for decades. I remember her huff and puff text to me proclaiming it was for animals only. Stoooopid me 🤷🏼‍♀️

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

I don’t know anyone who used the animal version but I’ve read about them and saw videos for years. They adjust the doseage. It would be front page news if it was killing people.

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RunningLogic's avatar

She should’ve checked out the protocols for asylum seekers and refugees then 😑

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Robin Landry's avatar

Horses are extremely sensitive animals. You actually can give an 80 pound dog a larger dose of an anti inflammatory drug than a 800 pound horse.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Yes, and if you give homeopathics to a horse they just need a few drops. It's amazing how sensitive they are. 🐴

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¡Andrew the Great!'s avatar

...that the US federal government all but REQUIRES incoming refugees to take. So it's safe for refugees, but American citizens must be banned from getting it.

Some people in government and in the so-called "health" agencies need to be tried, and if convicted, swing.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I know!!! That makes me so mad!! There are so many meds also used for animals, you might as well call antibiotics like tetracyclines “cow antibiotics” or call Prozac “dog antidepressant” 🙄🙄🙄

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Suzanne's avatar

I had a (40yr) practicing RN friend tell me it was a medicine for animals and she wasn’t going to argue with me!

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Debra (Rural & Red Oregonian)'s avatar

I had a friend who was a Veterinary assistant for decades and told me that many, many, many of the drugs used in the vet world are just relabeled from the human drugs to animal drugs. Composition is the same.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Of course! Increased customer base species increases profits!

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RunningLogic's avatar

That kind of person really makes me 🙄🙄🙄 They act like know-it-alls because of their credentials but they really have no clue what they are talking about 🙄

Like a former pharmacist friend who insisted her pediatrician husband knew all about masks and PCR tests when he didn’t know anything but what he’d been told by his medical association and the CDC 🙄🙄🙄

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

I worked in air and liquid filtration for a while and knew from real science that masks could not achieve what they said. Pressure differential, velocity, media type and media handling were totally ignored.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Exactly!

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