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Johnny Be Real's avatar

The FDA tweet “you are not a horse, ya’ll” was actually harmful. A person at work argued it was “horse paste” and they had no clue that it is an award-winning drug with decades of proven history. FDA=misinformation.

AM's avatar

That tweet made me sick at the time (still does). How condescending and talk about misinformation. Plus it gave the ***holes license to be even more derisive to people who had legitimate questions.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Can we just get over the condescending Karen/Ken digs y’all?

AM's avatar

Oh no, I’m sorry Karen and you’re totally right! That actually gets on my nerves too. Was posting too fast this morning!

Karen Bandy's avatar

Thank you, glad I got it off my chest. 🌺

Johnny Be Real's avatar

I know right. It’s probably annoying to Brandons too. Its a trend that will pass.

Karen Bandy's avatar

I’ve tried to stop calling people Dicks, it’s really hard to stop 😬🤣

Dean's avatar

Hahahaha! So sorry! 🤭

Karen Bandy's avatar

That sounds like sorry, not sorry 😆

Dean's avatar

Karen….I saw part of a reply from you about the Bend Oregon connection. I haven’t been able to locate that thread but I think you were asking where is HSV….it’s Huntsville AL aka Rocket City.

Karen Bandy's avatar

I replied in substack too!

RSgva's avatar

Yes, it was intended to be patronizing to fly over country. Sickening.

RunningLogic's avatar

Yeah all of those “dumb” farmer types who didn’t know the difference between meds for humans and meds for animals 🙄🙄🙄 Their superiority complex is so sickening 😡

richard's avatar

There is no difference between meds for people and humans. All drugs go through animal trials. There are a few drugs that are toxic on people but safe on certain animals, but a y drug that is used for both people and animals are the same drug.

Taking horse paste? It's as safe for you as it is for a horse. Just get the correct dosage

Jpeach's avatar

Not only does Ivermectin help treat COVID but, lots of stories out recently on Ivermectin as part of a treatment for many cancers. It’s clear that inexpensive and effective Ivermectin threatened the Covid Vax Complex / Cancer Treatment Complex.

Johnny Be Real's avatar

I have also read about it as a cancer treatment. It was not shared as a treatment option by our oncologist when we were dealing with cancer. I’m still looking into it though.

Kathy's avatar

Another promising cancer treatment is another anti parasitic drug called fenbendazole!

rolandttg's avatar

wife said Fenbendezole, which is just a more narrow spectrum anti parasite drug, is what put her cancer into remission. She took a lot of supplements, and did a number of holistic things, but swears by Fenben. She still takes it, and after listening to Dr. Lee Merritt talk about how parasites are behind most diseases, I just started a monthly dose (3X in a week). BTW we did it with NO involvement of an oncologist or any allopathic Dr. Plenty of information about doing it holistically out there to read. In our humble opinion, oncologists aer money grabbing evil quacks, in a profession that should be disbanded.

Jpeach's avatar

2nd Smartest Guy in the World, Substack, has been promoting Ivermectin and Fenbendazole, as a cancer treatment , for a couple of years.

Becky's avatar

Wondering how you obtained the fenbendazole. Does it require a prescription?

Karen Bandy's avatar

Joe Tippen has a protocol, he suggests getting a functional med person on board. Best of luck. ❤️

Deb S's avatar

I wish there was a good source for a list of doctors who are willing to think holistically and go “outside the box” with their patients. My doc is totally “by the book”, but she knows I have critical thinking skills and always research the hell out of everything. Still, I would switch docs in a heartbeat if I found a local one who actually *thinks* about treatments and is open to all options.

Suzanne's avatar

Oncologists rarely mention anything other than a pharmaceutical drug. My daughter’s dr told us there was “no evidence” that any supplements helped mitigate cancer.

Peace's avatar

The "no evidence" likely comes from no long-term placebo controlled studies having been done since the studies re so epensive that unless something is a new patentable drug, the study investors would never recoup their investment.

Astragale's avatar

They’re such liars.

Horrible, dangerous liars.

KBB's avatar

Dr Marik (FLCCC founder) has a book out recently thoroughly exploring alternative and adjunct treatments for cancer. It's called "Cancer Care: The Role of Repurposed Drugs and Metabolic Interventions in Treating Cancer."

Copernicus's avatar

Have you seen Dr Marik’s book on alternative cancer therapies on the FLCCC.net website? You might be interested. And of course your oncologist is not going to share information about IVM. First, they likely have no clue as to its usefulness and second, it isn’t in any of their Guidelines, so they wouldn’t prescribe it for that reason.

Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

The article I read in The Epoch Times, suggested it was not completely effective alone, but that it really enhanced chemotherapy and other therapies for cancer, with surprisingly potent results in a short time for some patients. (Maybe it targets the percentage of cancer that is bacteria or parasite driven?)

Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

I use it on my cold sores. Stops 'em and heals 'em......FAST.

But I think my teeth are getting bigger........ROFL.

Kathy's avatar

It is also part of the protocols for recovery from damage from the jabs, due to its anti-inflammatory and immune modulating effects, as well as being anti-clotting

Chelie's avatar

Epoch Times just ran an article about it.

Johnny Be Real's avatar

Fake Data Administration

Fred's avatar

FDA should have been required to paste a big red “RETRACTED” sign over it instead of a simple removal. Is a “we were wrong” label too much to ask?

Debra's avatar

How about every single staff member or associate of the FDA have to wear a great big red "R" on their clothing every single day like the big "A" adulterous women had to wear back in the day? (The R could also stand for retarded. So.)

daverkb's avatar

My vote is 'M' for murderer.

Astragale's avatar

C - for corrupt & captured.

Gaye's avatar

“People are dead now because of what the FDA did. But the needle just moved a little in the right direction. The ivermectin horse is out of the barn. The FDA looks like a jackass.”

— Jeff Childers

Shelle's avatar

Yes, it did a lot of harm. They wanted to place in people's minds that it was mock-worthy to even consider Ivermectin. It was a way to turn off careful thought before it even began. So many people lost their lives because they never got the right information. They didn't know where to find it and were made to feel foolish to look.

RunningLogic's avatar

And were even actively prevented from accessing it!

Michelle's avatar

USPS was even intercepting packages of ivermectin shipped from overseas and confiscating them.

Johnny Be Real's avatar

Emergency authorization conditions as I understand it required that there were no other viable alternative treatments. So they needed to demonize alternatives to roll out the experiments without being sued.

Paul Ashley's avatar

I was kicked off of a local Meetup site by self-proclaimed "experts" when I took to task two members who called me a fringe nut who believed in "horse-paste" ... because I mentioned that I didn't wear a mask! I will bet that to this day these "experts" think they did nothing wrong and would still claim that Ivermectin is solely a horse dewormer.

RunningLogic's avatar

Apparently refugees are horses since it’s routinely prescribed for them 😑

Johnny Be Real's avatar

Open-minded inclusive bunch aren’t they… unable to explore information available.

Paul Ashley's avatar

Able but unwilling perhaps?

Debra's avatar

Gotta love a government that spreads misinformation like a wildfire disease and then harasses and jails normal citizens who question their sanity.

Just_Henry's avatar

Fake Drug Advocates = FDA

Jan's avatar

I’ve switched to aspirin from the other crap like Tylenol for pain relief which is actually more dangerous but big money makers. Aspirin has other health benefits. We’re being conned there too.

Kathy's avatar

I agree with you, but aspirin is still an NSAID which can still cause internal bleeding. Occasional use is probably fine, but for long-term anti-inflammatory action one might consider something like serrapeptase and/or curcumin with piperine.

AB's avatar

I like the curamed painkiller. Found it at our local health food store. It works quite well for any muscle / joint paint. I’m keeping aspirin in my medicine cabinet as well though. No more Tylenol.

Barbls's avatar

Any pain med should be short term. If you have chronic inflammatory pain, examine your diet.

Peace's avatar

I made note that the health industry stopped recommending daily usage of aspirin for older adults - during Covid they stopped recommending it. Interesting that aspirin just happens to be part of the protocol recommended to sail through covid symptoms. Timing was impeccable.

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

That's how you knew that aspirin was a good treatment to prevent more severe cases of COVID - they stopped recommending it.

Chelie's avatar

I pharmacist told me this years ago. It’s anti inflammatory effects are superior to other NSAIDS like ibuprofen. But use caution if you take NATTOKINASE or a prescription blood thinners.

LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Aspirin is very good drug. Take lots of water with it and and crush it into a powder first.

Me's avatar

Safe and effective?

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

I thought PF made a joke based on FDA claiming that medicines used for animals are not effective in humans. IDK. Hard to tell in text. Anyway, per the FDA logic, aspire is good for horses, so humans shouldn’t use it because we are not horses, ya’ll! 😂😂

rolandttg's avatar

Fenben, and ozone, are two of the keys to my wife beating cancer. And guess where she learned it? From a holistic vet who treated one of our dogs.

And we stopped taking ALL OTC (and scrip) painkillers. Even aspirin has undesirable side effects. Most cancer books also tell you there is an inverse relationship to longevity and the amount of antibiotics you take in your life.

Shelle's avatar

I got the joke, too:)

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TNelius's avatar

My initial thought to the FDA tweet was to use their redefined terms of ‘identity’ and false narrative against them to stop this type of ‘hate speech’.

How dare you FDA! I identify as a horse, SO give me my ivermectin and no one gets stomped with my horse hooves! 🐎 🐴 🤨

Johnny Be Real's avatar

LOL could someone identify as a horse but still get the human version? So many questions…

Jan's avatar

My sister did and she used it on horses for decades. I remember her huff and puff text to me proclaiming it was for animals only. Stoooopid me 🤷🏼‍♀️

Johnny Be Real's avatar

I don’t know anyone who used the animal version but I’ve read about them and saw videos for years. They adjust the doseage. It would be front page news if it was killing people.

RunningLogic's avatar

She should’ve checked out the protocols for asylum seekers and refugees then 😑

Robin Landry's avatar

Horses are extremely sensitive animals. You actually can give an 80 pound dog a larger dose of an anti inflammatory drug than a 800 pound horse.

Karen Bandy's avatar

Yes, and if you give homeopathics to a horse they just need a few drops. It's amazing how sensitive they are. 🐴

¡Andrew the Great!'s avatar

...that the US federal government all but REQUIRES incoming refugees to take. So it's safe for refugees, but American citizens must be banned from getting it.

Some people in government and in the so-called "health" agencies need to be tried, and if convicted, swing.

RunningLogic's avatar

I know!!! That makes me so mad!! There are so many meds also used for animals, you might as well call antibiotics like tetracyclines “cow antibiotics” or call Prozac “dog antidepressant” 🙄🙄🙄

Suzanne's avatar

I had a (40yr) practicing RN friend tell me it was a medicine for animals and she wasn’t going to argue with me!

Debra's avatar

I had a friend who was a Veterinary assistant for decades and told me that many, many, many of the drugs used in the vet world are just relabeled from the human drugs to animal drugs. Composition is the same.

Johnny Be Real's avatar

Of course! Increased customer base species increases profits!

RunningLogic's avatar

That kind of person really makes me 🙄🙄🙄 They act like know-it-alls because of their credentials but they really have no clue what they are talking about 🙄

Like a former pharmacist friend who insisted her pediatrician husband knew all about masks and PCR tests when he didn’t know anything but what he’d been told by his medical association and the CDC 🙄🙄🙄

Johnny Be Real's avatar

I worked in air and liquid filtration for a while and knew from real science that masks could not achieve what they said. Pressure differential, velocity, media type and media handling were totally ignored.

Ed Thorrens's avatar

”The heavens declare the glory of God; And the firmament shows His handiwork.“

‭‭Psalms‬ ‭19‬:‭1‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

https://bible.com/bible/114/psa.19.1.NKJV

Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

This verse was what made me look seriously into the topic of “Flat Earth” — the firmament: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/lies-not-discussed-within-the-truth

Mike Perceval's avatar

There are so many ways to respond to the Flat Earth ‘belief system’ that it would take a rather long post to do so here. But let me just lay this one down: I am a former Merchant Marine Captain, who was fortunate enough to begin my career during the time when global electronic navigation had sufficient gaps in (good) coverage to require celestial, as well as other forms/elements of oceanic navigation to be used. In both celestial, as well as Great Circle navigation, Spherical Trigonometry was used - not Plane Geometry. We are all very familiar with the saying that, ‘The shortest distance between two points is a straight line.’ But, if one set out on a long trans-oceanic voyage and did not use Great Circle Sailing calculations to determine one’s waypoints along the route, one would end up with the certain knowledge that it is a ‘straight’ line is actually a curve across the surface of our planet.

During celestial navigation, we used both Marine and Air Navigation Tables derived from Spherical Trigonometry calculations. I’m confident that there are still many long-distance military and civilian pilots alive who can testify to using the same methods on certain flights in the days prior to fullest development of electronic navigation systems such as LORAN, or the advent of GPS.

Cafe Comments by Lauri Harris's avatar

Hello, Captain. I’m a former Merchant Marine. I sailed as part of the unlicensed crew and mostly as part of the Black Gang (for non-merchant marines, this term has only to do with being in the engine room elbows deep in grease and grime). On one ship, I was full-time engine room while at sea and worked the deck department during mooring. The captain permitted me, after working my shift and overtime in the engine room, to spend nights on the flying bridge learning navigation using the stars and a sextant during the cumulative 34 days we traversed the Atlantic. I found the learning much more in-depth than the blips on the screen style navigation methods which were also available. The stars are amazing out at sea! I don’t run into many Merchant Marines these days. Fair winds and following seas to you and yours. Good day, Captain.

Mike Perceval's avatar

Wonderful to hear of our shared experiences Lauri! I started in the Engine Room, but quickly realized that Deck was for me! But I loved the Engine Room, and we never under-estimated our need for, or dependence upon, the efforts of that Department! God bless!

A.J.'s avatar

I learned how to use a sexant, Naval Almanac, and a watch set to the radio time tick to find latitude/longitude. So fun to work a sextant! Bringing the sun or another star down to the horizon. The clockwork of the sky..

TT's avatar

I really think this flat earth nonsense is a psyop to attempt to discredit all “conspiracy theories” and to warn against the “dangers” of thinking for yourself. Don’t fall for it.

Mike Perceval's avatar

I agree, but I’d go one small step further - I’d say it’s primarily intended to undermine the credibility of Bible-believing Christians, many of whom I’ve encountered maintain that they believe it, ‘because the Bible teaches it’…

To be clear, I thank God for the Bible (Old & New Testaments); I literally believe it to be the ultimate authority in regard to anything it touches upon, and the MOST valuable ‘thing’ in our world. It saddens me greatly, however, to see the errors and mistaken beliefs that good, well-meaning people can fall into, when they fail to ‘rightly divide’ the Word.

In my view, the ‘framework’ with which one interacts with the Bible determines, to a very large extent, one’s understanding of the profound, yet often simple, truths expressed within its bounds. I think of those ‘frameworks’ in a manner similar to eyeglass ‘lenses’, the ‘right’ prescription corrects distortions and enables one to see reality correctly both near and far. As one moves further away from that proper and correct prescription, distortions begin to be introduced and, in the far end of that scale, the individual is effectively ‘blind’ to vast amounts of truth that is all around them.

Of course, these statements are probably akin to kicking a hornets nest, as there are vast numbers of people who are so wedded to their time-honored theological perspectives that they feel anything which threatens the full body of Systematic Theology they subscribe to is roughly equivalent to ‘the unforgivable sin’ - which is extremely sad.

Don’t misunderstand me; I DO believe that a sincere Bible believer must guard against error, and the wiles of the Devil, who seeks to pervert and undermine God’s Word - and those who have placed their faith and trust in it. But, as in so many other cases today, the vast majority of people seem to take the ‘easy’ way out, choosing to take and fight for positions because, ‘whatever ‘they’ believe, I believe’, rather than seriously examining the Scriptures, relying on the Holy Spirit to guide and instruct, as the Bereans did with the Apostle Paul’s teachings. The saddest thing of all, to me, is the ‘spirit’ with which the leaders and/or adherents of various groups within Christendom attack one another. All I can say is that such behavior is very definitely not Christ-like, and the following verse seems quite appropriate:

Luke 9:55

But He turned and rebuked them, and said, “You do not know what manner of spirit you are of.

Politico Phil's avatar

Wait till the aliens from outer space psyops gets in gear! You can see it being pre-programmed in the entertainment media already.

Debra's avatar

I do find it funny that it's okay to believe in alien species from out in the galaxy though. They don't call that a conspiracy theory. I often wonder if an intelligent species did come to the planet one time, watched the humans, shook their heads and said "We don't need to worry about them. They will destroy themselves then we can come back and clean up the mess." JK.

Dawn B's avatar

Just question everything.... Not long ago we were taught flat earth. The WHO logo is flat earth.

NASA lies and they push globe really hard... so why not question it?

There is a lot of Biblical evidence as well, and very old Bibles actually say flat earth and NASA's numbers about the earth are "strange"...

Why does it matter? It matters because globe earth makes us insignificant in the realm of things.

Flat earth shows that the moon and stars rotate around us so we are the center which makes earth significant to God as he made it all for us.

I really don't know but I am starting to believe the opposite of what they tell us since it is often the case. BTW masons have a different perspective and we all know astronots are masons so...

'Supposed' Freemason draws true depiction of Earth

https://www.bitchute.com/video/CrjwTWKOyIV3/

Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

You are absolutely correct. The Intel people push this idiocy because it gives the cover.

Fla Mom's avatar

Mariners would find this book interesting, at a minimum. I found it fascinating. The verse above, The Heavens declare...." was in mind always, while reading it. It was written for stranded sailors and downed airmen in WWII.

Finding Your Way Without Map or Compass, by Harold Gatty

https://store.doverpublications.com/products/9780486406138

Penny North's avatar

Thank you. I am building a library of ‘how to’ and current history books for my grandkids and extended generations. Just in case history is erased. I ordered this. Appreciate it.

c morrow's avatar

I just bought a few for each son and grandchild! 2 sons are pilots and in military so I hope they will enjoy this book! Thank you for posting! Thank you both for your comments and delightful knowledge share! God bless you and your families! 🦋

Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

If the Earth were flat, then it would be daytime all over the world at the same time.

Yet, when I FaceTime my son who's stationed in Central Europe (8 hours ahead of us), it's often nighttime where he is, and vice-versa.

If the Earth were flat, this couldn't be.

Think, people.

PS: the conspiracy nutbaggery on this Substack's reaching toxic levels.

daverkb's avatar

Flat Earthers never let inconvenient facts get in their way!

Dawn B's avatar

Nuttier things have happened and yes it could be.... but maybe not?

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." - CIA Director William Casey 1981

It is not really as nuts as I originally thought. I also didn't believe a lot of things that are true like they want to depopulate us. It was literally written in stone, but the 20ft granite GA Guidestones were struck by "lightning" and cleaned up in a day or two?

FYI, when there is distance from an object, it becomes smaller... like the sun on the other side of the flat earth. IDK for sure but NASA lies about data.

If you seriously looked at the flat earth info, you would know, but you are free to believe some masons went to the moon in a tin can and now lost the technology to go back. and spoke to the president on a landline with no delay... and JFK was killed by Oswald... and 911 was al-Qaeda terrorists and not an inside job.

Politico Phil's avatar

Thank you Mike! It is always such a breath of fresh air when real life experience is brought to bear on these "theories". The psyops that is being imposed on America seems to affect everything!

JT's avatar

Yes! I started in aviation in the 60’s and at best, for long range navigation we had LORAN, ADF, CONSOLAN, PLOP…but the most reliable (when we were above the clouds) was celestial navigation using a periscopic sextant.

Then came OMEGA, INS, and now GPS. Where we were once ecstatic to arrive within miles of our intended destination, now anything more than a few yards off the mark is a disappointment. Oh my, how far we’ve come!

Mike Perceval's avatar

Amen, JT! I can definitely relate to that thrill - and great satisfaction - of fixing your location with a few miles of one’s Estimated Position! This was especially true at sea, after what might be a prolonged period without favorable conditions for sights. I knew there had to be people like yourself amongst the readers here; I wish we could somehow ‘pin’ your comment to the top of the string! God bless!

Dawn B's avatar

Do you think earth might be flat? I think it might be flat. Why is there so much shame in questioning it? It's been drilled in our head so it is difficult for us to even consider.

I have not been to space or conducted an experiment so I must believe what I am told, but we all know we are lied to so...

Questioning is science and we have never been to space to prove it ourselves.

See my comment on this thread.

Mike Perceval's avatar

Dawn, I can certainly understand how people across time could, and did, believe the earth is flat. But I don’t believe it is for many reasons, nor do I believe the Bible teaches it - although I am aware of the verses that people use to try and support such a view/belief.

While so many in our world remain ‘blissfully ignorant’ of the evils that are so powerfully in play in our world today, it’s safe to say that virtually all C&C readers are somewhat ‘shell-shocked’ by the revelations of corruption, fraud, organized and coordinated deception, evil, and ‘wickedness in high places’ that have been brought into the open over the past four years, in particular.

We live and move in a world that is amazing, and full of blessings, in so many ways - yet it is also a world in which discerning ‘Truth’ is exceedingly difficult. And the vast number of people in our midst don’t care, are too intellectually ‘lazy’, are too burdened by pressing concerns, or are too preoccupied with other matters, to even try to grapple with the maze of information and truth-claims that pervade our lives today. It’s a perfect environment for deception, and I would say that is the dominant characteristic of our day and time.

So, I understand ‘questioning everything’ - and I agree with it, to a certain extent. And that’s the ‘rub’, isn’t it; ‘To what extent do I question everything, and how can I know what is trustworthy?’

No doubt, there are countless views/beliefs regarding that held by readers of C&C but, one of the most comforting things I have found, is that so many of us recognize, as Jeff C. does, that the Word of God is ‘…a lamp to my feet and a light to my path.’ (Psalms 119:105)

In a prior comment above, I made the statement that I sincerely regard the Bible (Old & New Testaments) as the MOST valuable ‘thing’ in this world. It is precisely for this reason that I hold that view; because it is, in regard to anything it touches upon (which happens to be everything that truly matters), the ‘Touchstone’ by which Truth vs ‘less than Truth’ (or worse) can be judged. That said, such a blessing can only be realized fully by those who are guided and instructed in it by the Holy Spirit - and that only happens (other than incidentally, should God choose), in the lives of those who have been ‘Born Again’ by the Spirit; those who have accepted and embraced the salvation and redemption God the Father made possible through God the Son (Jesus Christ), worked out within the life of the believer by God the Holy Spirit.

Apart from that being real in the individuals life, I suspect the Bible might prove to be of more harm than good. But, even when it is real in a believer’s life, there is an unavoidable process of spiritual growth and maturity that must accompany it:

“…that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, the eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe, according to the working of His mighty power which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, far above all principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come.” Ephesians 1:17-21

Toward that end we, as individual believers, have a role to play; we can take this seriously and apply ourselves diligently to growing in our knowledge of, love for, and trust in the God of the Bible. If that’s what we choose to commit ourselves to, we must:

“Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness.”

2 Timothy 2:15-16

And, recognizing our dependence on the guidance and instruction of the Holy Spirit, and praying for discernment and protection against error or deception, we can then:

“Rejoice always, pray without ceasing, in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.

Do not quench the Spirit. Do not despise prophecies. Test all things; hold fast what is good. Abstain from every form of evil.”

1 Thessalonians 5:16-22

While the Word of God is a veritable treasure chest of invaluable Truth and instruction, all of that gives us more than enough constructive guidance on how we should order our affairs in this day and age.

This is way longer than I dreamed it would be at the beginning, but I’ll conclude with this final portion of Scripture:

(Be Steadfast)

“Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.

You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen.”

2 Peter 3:14-18

Michelle's avatar

Dr. Jason Lisle is a Christian astrophysicist with a very helpful website. Here is his collection of information refuting flat earth: https://biblicalscienceinstitute.com/tag/flat-earth/?order=asc

Tonya McKinney's avatar

Thank you!!! Flat earthers need to read this. My dad a pilot has always said the same as you.

daverkb's avatar

It amuses me that the Flat Earther maps always show a circular map with the 'ice wall' running the entire circumference. Regarding this, sail vessels were going everywhere for the last 500 to 600 years at least and guess what? No reports of ever running into The Ice Wall.

Also, and something I'd like to know. This being it is my understanding is that the effective seeing distance to the horizon line is around fifty to sixty miles after which an object (vessel) begins to disappear over the horizon line. Is this distance correct figure? And with the superstructure being higher off the water line, the distance might well be extended some (a reason why lighthouses are built tall so as to extend the reach of the beacon.

I imagine Flat Earthers also don't believe in the space station and think that the photographic imagery of the globe earth is all a conjuring performed by Satanic Beings.

Well, don't crash through the ice wall. One breach might empty all the water out. And be careful to not hit your head on The Dome, otherwise you might hear some mighty peculiar things coming out of your mouth..

Nancy's avatar

It’s definitely not the hill I’m going to die on, but there so no shame in asking questions about our Earth. How dark is the other side of the globe when we have both sun and moon over North America? How was the North Star reliable for navigation if we are spinning 1000 miles an hour and flying through space at 66,000 mph? Do pilots keep nosing down in flight to maintain correct altitude over the curve? Inquiring minds and all….

Dawn B's avatar

I would not call myself a flat earther, but do entertain the idea. I don't really care but I don't believe NASA.

There are reports and pics of the ice wall, and why are we not allowed to go to Antarctica? Suspect...

Distance makes an object become smaller but with a strong telescopic lens you can zoom into something that can't be seen. It looks like the sun is going down but it is further away... zoom in on setting sun... 30 seconds - https://www.bitchute.com/video/mJkizmk69MnN/

No to aliens... they are demons

No space station... We went to the moon in a tin can and now lost the tech to go back, talked to the pres on a landline with no delay from the moon??? Do you believe that and those fake pics/video from the moon? The shadows don't line up, the tracks are not there or dust disturbed from landing.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2017%2F04%2F27%2F11%2F3FA6456400000578-4451120-image-a-45_1493288793295.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=d53a2268265b30592ed473f34a7c0e257aee3dda5782b4a25c2a636faafeb7b1&ipo=images

Lisa Ca's avatar

Fascinating. Thank you for sharing. Would love to hear more. In case you write a stack etc

Dawn B's avatar

'Supposed' Freemason draws true depiction of Earth

https://www.bitchute.com/video/CrjwTWKOyIV3/

Emumundo's avatar

Wow! Thank you for posting this. My life changed the day someone asked me ‘ what if everything you were ever told was a lie?’ Question everything

Dawn B's avatar

Are you being facetious? I am getting a beating here about flat earth.

I don't know but maybe... I am just curious. Science is based on theorizing and asking questions.

It is a wild conspiracy theory that I didn't want to entertain but... since they hide technology, history, lie about science, cause events like Maui fires, 911 etc, create division, allow invaders into the US, our health secretary dresses as a woman, our ex-1st lady "seems" to be a man, tricked us with vaxxes and on and on and on... Why is it such a stretch?

TB's avatar

It's worth pointing out that "firmament" is not a great translation of the hebrew word here ("raqiya"), and is more a case of applying pre-existing assumptions into translation. And this isn't some kind of "liberal christianity" thing, either -- even young-earth creationist organisations don't think that it means "solid sky", for example here: https://creation.com/is-the-raqiya-firmament-a-solid-dome (that's the first hit that pops up when you search their site for "firmament").

So by all means question things and investigate it for yourself, just don't assume that translations of the bible always got it 100% right - question them too!

Robin Greer's avatar

Amen. We had the most beautiful sunset last night. God paints a breathtaking picture.

Jan's avatar

In the sky today!

Robin Esau's avatar

Amen! Love this Ray Comfort 10 min video about eclipses and how he incorporates it into his street evangelism - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ3PzcBDEFs

Valerie's avatar

I’m glad that the FDA had to take down their ivermectin posts, but until they actually have to publicly announce ‘we were wrong’, it won’t make any difference. The media isn’t covering it, so who but those of us reading alternative media will even know it happened? And we’ve already known they were lying about IVM for YEARS now.

Also, Elon Musk is doing the Lord’s work when it comes to free speech. There are things not to like about the guy, but he is surely putting his money where his mouth is. He’s being sued by COUNTRIES - Brazil, and Australia, that I know of - and not only is he not backing down, he’s on offense. I think he’s a pivotal figure, like Trump, in the sea change that is happening. Remember that we don’t have to like everything about a person to respect what they’re doing. We are all flawed human beings. Musk at least gives me some hope.

Anthony's avatar

Agreed. There is more to like than dislike.

And it doesn't hurt that my liberal friends absolutely hate him.

Cindi's avatar

I have a pretty simple formula for knowing the truth / setting my moral compass / confirming my beliefs: anything the lunatic & demonic left are for, I am against. Anything they are against, I am for. Abortion, trannies, “climate change”, gun control, Ukraine, Gaza, on & on.

Cindi's avatar

I honestly cannot think of one single thing they are for (or against) that I am also for (or against). Easy-peesy

Anthony's avatar

Seems like a good shortcut.

And if ever there's something you both agree or disagree on, think about it. lol

Monterey's avatar

They used to love him!

Anthony's avatar

I know! Hilarious and sad that they can't see the manipulation or hypocrisy.

Jan's avatar

We like messing with their brains, don’t we. Lol.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Who is the one who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?

— 1 John 5:5 LSB

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Also, never look directly at the sun. But looking directly at the Son is highly recommended.

Robin Greer's avatar

And we have victory in Him. Praise the Lord!

Jaci's avatar

I🔥🔥🔥I beg everyone to look up three words! Democracy and Constitutional Republic. There is a huge difference. It is time to wake up and start using the correct terminology for our country or there will be

NO "for the people". We have been living in a country with self serving leaders and they will do what they want regardless of "for the people!"

Enough!

Johnny Be Real's avatar

Exactly. We aren’t majority rule here. Our Representative system is much better and is meant to be a barrier to mob-rule.

Amy W.'s avatar

Yes, so glad you brought that up! Even Trump has used the word Democracy in one of his speeches. I can’t even believe the number of politicians that use that word. They all need to look up the difference.

Ed Thorrens's avatar

”And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.“

‭‭I Timothy‬ ‭3‬:‭16‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

https://bible.com/bible/114/1ti.3.16.NKJV

Joanne Shannon's avatar

“…villainous judge, Alexandre de Moraes”……..what a perfect photo!

Robin Greer's avatar

Kinda reminds me of the character on the minions movies.

Blair's avatar

I imagine that photo encapsulates who he is quite well.

Monterey's avatar

As someone on Twitter said, "why do they always look like that??"

Aloha50's avatar

I assure you Trump especially has no clue regarding the difference between a Democracy and Republic.

Dean's avatar

Relevance????? Your assurance is worth what?????

Based Florida Man's avatar

I'm glad normie-king Joe Rogan is questioning 'all vaccines'.

Same for pets.

From what I've learned there's no good reason to give any 'vaccine' to a pet.

Susan Catherine's avatar

Me too--glad someone with millions of followers can spread the well-grounded doubt on the shots. If he hasn't already, Joe should have Aaron Siri on his show to give his presentation regarding what those shots are built on (the studies, er, lack of studies).

CHop's avatar

His testimony in front of the Arizona Senate committee is one of the best explanations of vaccines and the lack of studies on them.

Susan Catherine's avatar

Yes, it is! I saw it live. It was an amazing panel.

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

On the contrary, the veterinarian's paycheck is a very good reason. Same as the pediatrician's paycheck.

Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

I feel the same. If I ever get another dog, it will NEVER get the rabies vax. If they are house pets and not in the woods, etc., they don't need a rabies vax. The probability of my dog getting rabies is about the same odds as Fauci returning his $Billions and running off to join the Peace Corps. I actually checked the facts and the last time a domestic animal got rabies in my area was like 60 years ago. Big Pharma.....again.

BelleTower's avatar

I read up on the odds raccoons are infected and read a hard to believe statistic that 40% are infected … would there even be any raccoons if 40% contracted rabies??? Then a few weeks ago I read an article about a new effort to vaccinate entire populations of woodland animals using sneaky things like doses delivered oral treats and treated water sources … I put the two together then … I am betting all I have that the study that found the40% infection rate was industry funded

Emumundo's avatar

And now our dogs are getting cancer.....

Gram's avatar

It would be great if he would do some of his own research first - before talking to 6M people about a subject he knows so little about.

-Viruses do not exist.

-Adjuvants do not help something work that does not exist.

-HPV is not given to infants, Hep B is.

I couldn't even listen to the rest of the clip...

AngelaK's avatar

"Conclusion: corporate media promotes evil and ignores good."

Absolutely. When you see the garbage articles they print about sexual topics like threesomes, etc. with absolutely no shame, you know they are pushing more and more 'worship' of the pagan sex god (demon) they have sworn to worship.

It just gets more and more sordid, creating their desired desensitization towards it all.

Satan hates Christianity.

They are Satan's willing servants.

They hate Christian morality.

Lord have mercy on this modern day Sodom and Gomorrah they have created. 🙏

Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

Re: America’s likeness to Sodom

“America, it seems to me, has reached a point of depravity not far distant from the level of wickedness reached in the city in which Abraham’s nephew, Lot, chose to live. We’ve looked at the Sodom-likeness of our own nation a number of times in these commentaries. But never before has such a degree of Sodom-likeness materialized, in my view.”

From: https://terryjamesprophecyline.com/2024/04/07/abrahams-plea-and-todays-america/

Tonya McKinney's avatar

Scary comparison but I see it. Ugh

Reasonable Horses's avatar

Maybe file Ms. Ray’s conversion with John Fetterman’s “I’m not woke anymore” switcheroo for now. I’d have treated the conversion of “chief of sinners” Saul of Tarsus the same way back in the 1st century. John 4:1-3 warns, “Do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.” Miraculous conversions do happen, praise God, and the apostle formerly known as Saul cleared the hurdle, but our times call for caution and sober judgment. “For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect” (Matthew 24:24).

Jim Mc's avatar

What I took away from this is the part about out the guy who set her up with an OnlyFans account and took much of the money. Isn’t that just a new age pimp? Setting up girls online, holding the password to the account, taking a big cut of the revenue from her John’s…..

AngelaK's avatar

Yes true that.

What saddens me is how normal society and culture have made these ideas of online sexual stuff (nude posing, etc) to young women, so that such an offer as she received wasn't rejected. At 20 years old, no girl I knew who was from a nice family would have considered doing such a thing in the 70s.

Alan Devincentis's avatar

Rest assured no 20 year old girl raised right in this day would either. Takes a special kind of parent to raise a porn star.

AngelaK's avatar

Agree, but there is a fine line drawn on what is acceptable by society..like posing somewhat provocatively in a bikini on Facebook or Instagram is now totally acceptable, so...

And apparently it isn't just young girls on this site..I have read about mothers, nurses, politicians, etc.

The girl Jeff mentions was a Pastor's daughter. I do not blame the family. I blame a culture whose influence is much stronger than you think.

I also blame the lust and lure of big money which ditching one's family's morality to do stuff like this can bring them.

Look at actresses and actors today.

They have all done nude scenes and similated sex scenes nude. IMO, as a Christian, they are immoral to do them, (a small step away from actual pornography), but satan's disciples (entertainment industry) are requiring it for their 'career' and for the big money 💰 they get in return. So does 'immorality' even exist as a concept in this neo pagan culture? No it does not. Neither does 'character' because it ties in too much to Christian values and morality.

T Kosse's avatar

I listened to the whole interview. She had a very dysfunctional family, and the young lady is quite mixed-up. As she talked through her chronology, you could easily see trouble on the horizon. I hope she gets to a better place in her life.

Johnny Be Real's avatar

Virtual prostitution - sounds like the same thing to me too

AB's avatar

Who is this man?

TB's avatar

So, after listening to her interview, it seems that some guy TRIED to get her to sign up with a link that would get him a cut or something, but she said something like "I was like, why would I do that? I signed up on my own, and made sure I had complete control over my own content."

Which has in some ways turned out to be a good thing, because she says she now has a lawyer going after sites that have stolen her content to take it down, because she still has all legal right to it. (Though it sounds like she is accepting that she will never completely get rid of it all, and lives with the consequences of her choices.)

To me, she sounds legit - the way she talks about her conversion and having meaning in her life seems so joyful, in a way that I can't see somebody faking. And the fact that she completely deleted her onlyfans, even though she could have kept it up with her old content on there and continued making good money from it, and talks about how rationally she WANTED to keep it up because it "makes sense" to keep herself financially secure, but decided she couldn't because the Spirit was convicting her that it wasn't right.

Roger Beal's avatar

Good morning, y'all!

Nala's story proves that the media are bigger whores than is anyone selling sex on OnlyFans.

Susan Catherine's avatar

Note to self: Do not eat duck when in France.

Gram's avatar

99.9% of animals consumed for food have 'vaccines' and antibiotics and growth hormones added to the genetically engineered grain and other crap they are given as food.

Renea Buchholz's avatar

That is why we have 4 pigs growing hefty on the property

Susan Catherine's avatar

But I have yet to see a label on food sold with the words "not vaccinated"...

Kim's avatar

That's why we are purchasing local meat that is advertised as non-vaxxed.

Carlos's avatar

Pretty soon it will be only bugs in France.

AngelaK's avatar

I thought the supposed culinary capital of the world would care more about the safety of what they are consuming. Ofcourse, they believe that vaccines are good, so no conflict, I guess. 🤷

RunningLogic's avatar

Lots of people there do care about food and are against antibiotics and GMOs and pesticides and things like that. They probably are more interested and sensitized than many Americans are on the subject tbh.

Monterey's avatar

Yes, I've seen many people comment about having gone to Europe and most people are not fat, and they eat what would not be considered the healthiest carb breakfast and they lose weight while they're in Europe!

AngelaK's avatar

Yes, I know that, that is why this surprised me..but perhaps they don't know about it yet.

RunningLogic's avatar

They may also have blinders on about vaccines in particular, even though they are leery of the other stuff.

Help Needed in KS's avatar

1st !! 1st !! AHAHAAH HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAH.

It's the little things in life that make me happy....

Help Needed in KS's avatar

Darn it! By the time I corrected my spelling mistakes, I was 4th!

Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Vaccinating birds for “viruses” is so sad — especially since they don’t exist. Fauci has tricked the world with HIV and Covid and unfortunately that is now affecting animals: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/why-it-does-matter

jmsmithmd's avatar

Especially when the ultimate side effect for the ducks is “depopulation.”

LMWC's avatar

I believe it’s to create the new bird flu. Vaccinate the birds with the gain of function virus. Just like *C.

RU's avatar

Glad someone else noticed that. They always tell you what they're going to do. Not that long ago, the word "depopulate" was a curse word and not to be used for fear of giving ammo to "conspiracy theorists." Now, here it is in print.

Julie Ann B's avatar

And, therefore, is contaminating our food supply

Lil M.'s avatar

During the scamdemic, they injected most of the zoo animals with a concoction made by Zoetis, a former Pfizer subsidiary. That took care of most of the mammals, so they are going after the birds now.

Reasonable Horses's avatar

Two options before us: prepare to play hunger games, or pray like we mean it.

Johnny Be Real's avatar

Here are people who say birds don’t exist LOL

https://youtu.be/e2wir9wRp8w

TB's avatar

I recall reading that "birds don't exist" was a deliberate prank/troll by someone to see how far he could get with it. I'm not sure how many people actually took him seriously, vs people who thought it was funny and joined in...

(Small correction, I think the slogan was "birds aren't real", rather than "birds don't exist". Only remembered that after I posted.)

Reasonable Horses's avatar

Average fringe-lunatic American. Wakes up, washes the car, and flies to the Himalayas like an extinct bird.

Beckadee's avatar

haha- the black dude wasn't having any of that! And his t-shirt- Bird Watching Goes Both Ways- lol.

Emumundo's avatar

Mark Crispin Miller has substacks of dead zoo animals that were vaccinated. A lot of animals are dead. What is wrong with people? These poor animals.

Laura Kasner's avatar

Tom Haviland (worldwide embalmer blood clot survey) and embalmer Richard Hirschman’s interview with Sharyl Attkisson just aired on mainstream media yesterday.

https://fullmeasure.news/

Latest Stories - Covid Clots (6 mins)

This interview took place last August, but did include some current statistics.

Please share widely.

AM's avatar

Love Sharyl Attkisson.

SeeingTruth's avatar

Fabulous coverage....wait for the FDA punchline at the end

Laura Kasner's avatar

SeeingTruth - sickening wasn’t it.

Now if only Sharyl will cover the clots being found in the living:

https://philipmcmillan.substack.com/p/update-on-embalmers-clots-in-the

SeeingTruth's avatar

Great video coverage including some footage from a Cath lab whistleblower. Haviland makes an excellent point - there are many professionals present during a cath lab procedure - surgeons, cardiologists, anesthesiologists, nurses - who are witnessing this and not coming forward. Know anyone in Cath lab? Please show them this.

Potential mechanism for the clot formation is also discussed. Fabulous work by all!

Alan Devincentis's avatar

I’m absolutely flummoxed that there are people willing to fuck around with deadly flu biologics to see how many people they can kill. I’m thinking these people should be put on a craft with only enough oxygen to get them to orbit. Wow! Where does one find a pathological killer in the universities that just want to make things that kill?

Kim's avatar

Yes, they are openly advertising their plans and I can't believe this is where we are now. And nothing is done about it. I feel like I'm in an alternative universe.

SeeingTruth's avatar

Look up what Mr Gates has funded at the University of Wisconsin - combining 1918 pandemic strain with avain flu.