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Based Florida Man's avatar

Hydroxychloroquine for COVID? Ohio House passes a bill forcing pharmacists to prescribe requested drugs:

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/06/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-ohio-house-passes-a-bill-forcing-pharmacists-to-prescribe-requested-drugs.html

COLUMBUS, Ohio – The Ohio House passed a bill Wednesday that would make it easier for patients to get prescription drugs for off-label purposes, such as hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin for the coronavirus. House Bill 73 passed 73 to 17. It now heads to the Senate.

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SusanMc's avatar

May the Senate use logic & follow suit!

I take a med off label with no issues (Colchine/Colcrys which is “labeled for gout) for vasculitis. I tried using that logic to get prescriptions for HCQ &/or IVM to no avail - initially. Finally found a patriot doctor who provided such. My husband & I have taken HCQ once a week for over 2 months yrs. - no covid. Classified as elderly here😉

In many countries IVM is OTC as it should be here. In Tennessee it is; THAT is what I call “progressive.”

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

I have a friend who has been taking HCQ for at least 5 years for her RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS. Nope, never got the shots nor the virus. But this is Florida, land of the free.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

FL is not very free on HCQ and IVM and such, where OH and TN are leading the way. You also can't grow your own 420 in FL.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

I didn’t have any trouble getting IVM in early 2022 at my pharmacy. I had to pay for it so it wasn’t “free” if that’s what you’re referring to. Not all pharmacies were as cooperative but I use a small family-owned pharm. They were having a hard time keeping up with the demand.

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SusanMc's avatar

My small town pharmacy had patronized for years wouldn’t allow people not already on it regularly get any. “Saving it for them”

Tho a friend’s pharmacist told her there’s was no shortage bc it’s put out by sooooo many companies. And relatively inexpensive.

So if folks could get well using cheap meds... no need for Paxlovid, etc. OR “vaccines” either.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

Exactly. But you had to use common sense which seemed to be lacking during those times!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

The Nation’s Governor is a Uniparty mirage.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

He’s becoming a paradox, for sure. Puzzling.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Once you see the strings on the puppet, you cannot unsee them. This particular operation from the Uniparty had ensnared quite a few people I know and they are struggling to deal with it. They Still think this is some head fake and RDS and DJT are secretly working together and any day now, they’ll join up to save us all.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

That’s what a lot of the back channels have been eluding to. And it tends to be a plausible scheme given how he sidled up to Trump every moment he got during his own campaign. (I remember saying how he was learning from Trump.) But we know Trump values loyalty and seeing Ron squander that loyalty is foolhardy. I think the “harsh” statement is a point of strategy for T. Until or when all legal abortion is banned - I’m for that - there are those who will take that option. A stark worldly reality is that until God opens the hearts and minds of all people, it will continue to be law. Individual salvation is the bottom line. And, Ron is risking the dictatorial stance of “forcing” people into his beliefs. RoeVWade is gone. One step at a time.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Inspired! Amen and amen!

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Austin's avatar

Senate - logic = our current state of affairs

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Horizons's avatar

I heard that in TN that you still can’t get IVM; the pharmacies get around the “must supply” rule by being permanently out of stock. Anyone here in TN able to confirm?

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SusanMc's avatar

Corporate pharmacies aren’t kosher; try independent ones

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Barbara Moser's avatar

My friend lives in TN and she went yo a Walgreens and they wouldn’t give it saying it doesn’t work. She then went to a real pharmacy and got it.

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Smatse's avatar

I went to the CVS in Maryville, TN back in March. They refused to sell me IVM. I spoke with the pharmacist there and he refused me without a prescription.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I think I saw that New Hampshire also offers it OTC

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Chris Fetzer's avatar

In 2021 ohio is was almost impossible to get iver from a pharmacy. When I questioned the small independent pharmacy, the pharmacist said she was cautioned by the state board of pharmacists, and she was afraid of losing her license. Yes, they had it, but wouldn't sell it for covid.

I had to order some from a faraway land.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Well, if you knew the right channels, you saved lots of cold hard cash! (Local vet would supply 100ml bottle of sterile Ivermectin solution for $40 and that came with 10 syringes and the method to figure the amount needed per dose. Added it to shot glass of juice... It is USP grade, 100% safe for humans! Our Publix pharmacy charged $180 for FIVE 12mg tablets! Only pharmacy who would dispense Ivermectin.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Learn your channel options! Absolutely.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I picked this up on amazon for $95 in May. Listing is gone now tho. Others have it too.

IV Ivermectin 1% Durvet Cattle and Swine 500 ml

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Jean V's avatar

I buy the Durvet Horse Paste at the feed store. It's dosed by weight - same as the horse weight. It tastes like bitter apple peel. I also have the injectable, purchased from the farm store. You can get the syringes to measure it out, and add it to water or juice.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And you may occasionally slip up and say, “Neiiiiigh”, which just makes it all more fun😂🤣😂

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Sunnydaze's avatar

😂 our whole house slips out those Neiiigh’s once in a while 😉.

PS - We didn’t die 😉

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I’m still here! I do have a craving for oats….

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Sunnydaze's avatar

😂 😂

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Credenda's avatar

I used to mix the Durvet with applesauce, with a little sprinkle of cinnamon on top.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Mine has a pig and a cow on the label... And I have gotten lots of great jokes and laughter out of ONE silly bottle of a Covid therapeutic! It's priceless!

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OnTheJump's avatar

Some changes regarding the purchase of some animal medications....had read about this a while back (not sure how it impacts the meds discussed here):

https://extension.okstate.edu/articles/2023/vet-prescription-rule.html

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Jean V's avatar

Fortunately, I have a good relationship with three veterinarians. But, I did buy all of the oxytetracycline at my local Tractor Supply in early June. They didn't have any penicillan in stock, though. I'm sure I will be able to pick it up at the office at a marked up cost when I need it, though.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

2nd Smartest Guy in the World.

I got mine there (also fenbendazole)

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Credenda's avatar

I just stocked up on fenbendazole. It will be hard to obtain one of these days.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Yep, fenben the cancer fighter. Joe Tippens protocol.

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SusanMc's avatar

Where can I find that protocol?

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Peter GL's avatar

you are lucky to have a small independent pharmacy near you, and not just CVS or Walmart

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And here in Florida, where Ron DeSanctimonius freed us slaves and led us to the promised land, I have friends who knew an old fashioned sort of doctor to prescribe and fill prescriptions for the Iver. He is/was connected to his own family’s pharmacy.

But, when they were handed the bag for one course of treatment and heard that’ll be $200+, they almost stroked out. Others have placed overseas orders for the Iver. Those prices still shocked me. There are other ways. But you have to be bold and oblivious to ridicule.

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

Get ivermectin from

Mexico..it’s very cheap and effective.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

If the cartels were smart, they would be importing IVM to the US by the truckloads.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

There's some good how tos showing parking in Yuma, AZ at the casino and walking across to pick up the goods. Tons of pharmacies on the MX side.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I’m good personally, but certainly noting this piece of information.

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SusanMc's avatar

Attended a church where a man spoke Re: life vs. abortion

His mother was raped; conceived him. She gave birth to him, but treated him badly. He was constant reminder of the rape.

His life went awry & he associated with bad folks. Ended up in prison bc he drove getaway car during a robbery. The ones doing the robbery ended up killing someone. So he got “life” in prison. Became a Christian & was radically changed. Anger towards mom dissipated. He studied the Word, & considered prison his mission field.

A fluke caused him to be released. He attended seminary & was ordained in the ministry. His mom who shunned him & rejected his testimony & invitation to his ordination showed up for it.

ALL to say; he said he is the poster boy for life instead of death as a product of rape.

He was grateful to have been allowed to live in spite of the hardships growing up, running with wrong crowd, prison time, et al.

That day I saw my hypocrisy of being pro-life except for rape, etc.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

A beautiful story. And not the only one by far. God seems to have a special hand on these whose mothers don’t execute them for the father’s’ crimes.

I think I remember this right, that King David’s great grandfather paternally was Boaz. Famously Boaz married the Moabitess, Ruth. Boaz was the son of Rehab, the prostitute, who saved the Hebrew spies and in turn was saved. This all in the line of Jesus, the final King of all that is.

God longs to work with us, irregardless of origins.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And after saving us all, Rob went on a powder puff CBN interview to explain how he’s pretty sure he could have walked on water with Jesus. Fan base, eat it up! Big fans of pandering of the crudest sort, enjoy!

George W. Bush 2020, Ted Cruz 2016…if we can just elect a Christian…

https://www2.cbn.com/news/us/ron-desantis-talks-faith-family-cbn-exclusive-were-christ-centered-household

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Credenda's avatar

Sadly people fall for this all the time. We are so desperate for integrity in our elected officials that we hang on to the barest thread of evidence for “faith”. It pulls in the votes by the millions. Wasn’t it Ted Cruz who went big on his alleged Christian principles and was discovered to have never given a dime to his own church? And then there’s Pence……..

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Cruz went in heavy with it. Didn’t do him anymore good than the idiotic revolt he tried at the Republican convention🤣

When in 2016, TPTB had to come to grips with the fact that nobody wanted their chosen, !Jeb (Please, clap! Never got past 3%), they moved on to Cruz, and they just knew they’d get the Evangelicals. That’s my background and fortunately, there’s plenty of ‘based’ folks in that movement.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Thanks for that link. I was surprised by this though. Do you know if Trump really did say this?

"While I appreciate what the former president has done in a variety of realms, he opposes that bill," DeSantis told CBN News. "He said it was, 'harsh' to protect an unborn child when there's a detectable heartbeat. I think that's humane to do."

When asked if he thinks the former president is going soft on abortion in this specific regard, DeSantis replied, "I think so. I mean I was really surprised because he's a Florida resident and I thought he would compliment the fact that we were able to do the heartbeat bill, which pro-lifers have wanted for a long time. He never complimented, never said anything about it. Then he was asked about it and he said it was 'harsh.'”

Can anyone verify if Trump said this and if so was there context to it that RD left out?

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I can’t imagine that being a straight statement from Trump. I’ll see what I can find.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I found this; https://floridapolitics.com/archives/612096-donald-trump-says-new-florida-abortion-law-seen-as-too-harsh/

President Trump is a realist. If one doesn’t stand a chance at getting elected, one will not be effective at all in governance.

He’s speaking to what will voters accept at this moment in time.

We would all like to say no more abortions period. But we live and operate in a world that is not ready for that. We have made pro-life strides, but there’s so much more to do.

I think he’s saying that as a campaigning strategy, that position from DeSantis is not good for a general election, when you need to win over the nation.

This article points out that DeSantis is saying very little about that stance. Of course, before an evangelical audience, he uses it in attacking President Trump, since that’s red meat for that audience.

I have no doubt that Donald Trump would prefer a world without legalized abortion.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

That’s why I asked for context. I figured there was more to the story. Usually is. I get why he says “too harsh” after reading the context. I believe it was a good abortion ban but I believe all life matters -even how it was conceived. And I don’t say that lightly. Whether rape or incest -it’s still a baby that will feel the pain of being killed. I know it’s a hot topic. I used to think exceptions mattered, until my son challenged me. A life is a life..is it not? We had a long discussion and I realized the truth in what he was saying and changed my stance. However, I also understand what Trump is getting at. Context really does matter. Not just saying Trump said it was too harsh. That implies something totally different. Thanks for the link!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And I agree with you! We have to educate on the value of all human life. The child resulting from rape or incest is totally innocent. That seems to be the last stronghold for an awful lot of confused people who vote, and red meat to the left in attacking the Prolife movement.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And I would add, if Donald Trump had done this abortion action, the pink pussy hat crowd would be 24/7 slinging curses at him. The media would be frothing at the mouth about it.

If there’s any major push that way against DeSantis, I’m not seeing it.

I disagree with those who claim that the leftists want to run against Trump because they fear DeSantis. Don’t make me laugh.

DeSantis knew very well about the plans for the FBI to raid Trump’s home. His campaign’s only hope is that Trump gets removed, one way or another. He will never get another vote from this Floridian.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Nor this one!

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Fla Mom's avatar

"...easier...such as...."

It was never *not* easy, until those two drugs during COVID. In fact, it was something that pharmacists did daily, routinely, for their entire careers, including during COVID, because it's such a common medical practice (because it costs too much to do the FDA-required studies to be approved for a new indication), but just not for those two drugs. How they live with themselves is beyond me (not to mention everyone involved in tossing the notion of needing real studies to approve novel injectable materials, but I digress). Good for the Ohio House, and I hope it is ultimately signed into law.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well said and I share your disgust at these shills of pharmacists.

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Irunthis1's avatar

You should be one (me) who has to work with these idiots, ask them why it is ok to dispense all these antipsychotics for “depression” or anti-epileptics for pain but not ivm and hcq for Covid? We literally dispense the stuff we do all day long for off label and no one gives two squirts unless its a dangerous combo or dosed incorrectly etc. Hell we spend a good part of the day giving adult drugs to these poor kids for all kinds of psychological problems that are mostly the result of vaccine injury. So you think your one encounter is painful you should have to live in my head. I used to just wait till they leave and then fill all the stuff that came in that they were not wanting to do. I actually convinced most of them at my store with the above logic that they really had no business refusing.

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daiva's avatar

🗨 You can lead a horse to Ivermectin, but you can't stop him from drinking the Koolaid 😏

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RunningLogic's avatar

😆 I loved that line from Eric yesterday so much!

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daiva's avatar

🗨 Everything of importance has been said before by somebody who did *not* discover it. ~~Alfred North Whitehead

Emphasis mine 😎

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daiva's avatar

😂 Egad, what an embarrassment! Of course you're right, it sure was that Enigma boi 🤣

[Who woulda thunk he studied Whitehead in his spare time? 😲]

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

Florida legislature, you need to follow Ohio's lead in this matter. Take the shackles off of our pharmacists.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Apparently, they only act on what comes out of the Governor’s office and who knows what part of the globe he’s trotting around in today. But no worries, he’s made Florida self-governing now…

Ask the hard working Conservatives, who put their hearts and souls into a Florida medical freedom bill that was a sure thing for passage until…out flew a new and vastly unimproved version from the Governor’s office that knocked it right out of the running.

Who knew they were all just a big load of Rinos until they got the test. Now we know.

But we have no measures to insure our pharmacies will fill our prescriptions.

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Joni's avatar

What’s amazing is that there are many drugs used off label for heart issues, etc., etc., but these ignorant news organizations make the drugs that could have saved lives for covid a big deal because they didn’t meet the plandemic scam! These off label drugs were never challenged!!!!

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

There is information available that included Ivermectin and Hydrochloride as KNOWN therapeutics for Covid as early as 2012.....I'll try to find the link.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

President Trump tried. What was the snake Mike Pence doing? I’m guessing he refused to name those treatments, claiming it was ‘misinformation’.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Fauci, the murdering psychopath, prevented AIDS patients from getting low cost generic drugs and shoved the toxic drug AZT down their throats.

Sound familiar?

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FourWinds's avatar

I just filled a script for hydroxychloroquine last night at our pharmacy (I'm in Ohio). We have a pharmacist that bought into the entire "covid" cult and refused to do any scripts for it, but we had a guest pharmacist last night so it got through. Thank God. I can't wait for Ohio to pass that so our regular, cult driven pharmacist CAN'T refuse to fill them.

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