Yes, I am curious too! I live in MO, a mostly red state and our public schools are not much better. Much of this rot is coming from the dept of Education (on Jeff's chain saw list from yesterday) and from the woke indoctrinated products of today's putrid higher ed system.
Yes, I am curious too! I live in MO, a mostly red state and our public schools are not much better. Much of this rot is coming from the dept of Education (on Jeff's chain saw list from yesterday) and from the woke indoctrinated products of today's putrid higher ed system.
Some of my friends did just that while classes were virtual during the scamdemic. They are now either homeschooling or have their kids in private Christian schools. I would do the same if mine were not grown. All were shocked at just how bad it was given that we are in a pretty conservative suburban district that is unfortunately led by a woke school board and administration. We are in year 3 of the fight to try to change the board, but sadly only 3 of 7 seats so far. Two more leftists up for re-election next year. Praying we can get 2 more conservatives elected. Even though mine are grown, I am in the fight as so goes the schools, goes the community. Too many conservatives don't pay attention to local elections, which are held separately in April from the higher profile August primary and November general elections. But the leftists vote in greater numbers in April. Biden only won 3 precincts in our city in 2020 but the left prevails in local. It's a tough fight, and sadly, it shouldn't be.
I pulled my kids rather than fight them (though I have led several successful civic fights on other issues in the past) as I wasn't willing to leave my kids in a corrupt system while hoping to change it. It takes years and years to turn a school system around assuming the fight is ultimately successful. During those years the kids continue to be indoctrinated. I wasn't willing to pay that price with my kids.
The double-edged sword is that once one pulls their kids from the system, then one loses leverage to change it. Complaints are met with, "what do you care? You don't even have kids in the school". And they have a point that is hard to rebut.
I don't know the answer but I do know protecting my kids is my highest priority and I will not leave them in such a degenerate environment. My only conclusion regarding those that do is that 1) they agree with it or 2) they don't care what their kids are taught or 3) they are too foolish, lazy, or self-centered to see what is going on. Why would I fight to save a school system for parents that fit any of these three mindsets? People say, "parents are busy, they don't know what's going on in schools". Well, whose fault is that? Why should any of us fight for parents that think chasing a career (or whatever they are into) is more important than their kids education? School is a babysitting institution for them so they can both work and not be bothered dealing with the kids.
It's a sad state of affairs as it doesn't bode well for the future. But my priority is my kids, not the kids of people who don't care. As far as I'm concerned the system can collapse and is not worth saving. The idea of kids being educated by the government was never going to end well so it's pretty obvious to see where this is heading.
Anyways, best wishes and thank you for fighting this. I'm sure it's a thankless task and a huge personal sacrifice.
Re: “Complaints are met with, "what do you care? You don't even have kids in the school". And they have a point that is hard to rebut.“
I’ve noticed for years that nearly all of the school board members in my school district do not have kids in school either. Some have no kids at all. The same is true for state PTA board members. They are almost always democrats with agendas to push. They view it as political office from which they can springboard from to even greater “public service”.
My long time observation indicates the problem began when the federal government forced bussing. Rather than send their children to another school way across town, often in sketchy areas, parents who had the means sent them to private schools in their own neighborhoods.
That took care of it for them, but it took a big chunk of brain power and resources away from public schools.
Nothing good has happened in public education since then.
And yes, an apparent majority of black teachers, staff and personnel in the schools where I worked had their own children in private schools. They were very proud of that and happy to talk about it. There are plentiful scholarships for certain groups for private school payments.
Oh I know - I have knocked over 1000 doors the past 3 years and I get that - do YOU have kids in the district?! Of course I say no, I am 58, and not a good liar. But I care about the future and our community. That used to be a very family oriented cohesive conservative community in the 90's and 2000's. I hate that the left has turned the focus away from academic excellence to 'belonging' (the new DEI term). I know a lot who have moved, but the left just won 3 seats on a school board in a district just south of us that Trump won by 30 points in 2020. Not paying attention IS NOT an option any more. The left plays the long game.
I am serving as a community member on the Comprehensive Facilities Master Plan team (they are getting ready to roll out a bond issue in 2025) and while touring an elementary school, I was standing in a hallway while the group leader was droning on, I was reading the 5th grade student essays in the hallway. The grammar and spelling of about half of them was atrocious! I would yank that down and make my kid re-do it if it was one of mine. Mine are 28 and 30 and while I was starting to have issues by the time they hit HS, figured we'd ride it out at that point. Pre much social media and everyone else I mentioned my concerns to shrugged it off. But I did start attending occasional board meetings. Things really accelerated when our mostly naïve but well intentioned board members hired a super woke race baiting superintendent in 2017 and it's been downhill ever since. One conservative board member has yanked her kids from the district, with much criticism. That tells you all you need to know.
Same! We have been having the same battle here in KS. The lefties embedded in the school board are not only unbeliveably arrogant but incredibly stupid as well. Super frustrating that others just keep voting without looking.
I know, really sobering that ALL the conservative candidates lost in Joco in November - Blue Valley, Shawnee Mission and Olathe. 19% turnout. Think JoCo is getting way too infiltrated from KC refugees.
No JOCO is white liberal woman central are you kidding?? Those people think their excrement don't stink and all have BLM and Love is Love etc signs in their yards. I work in Wyandotte which is VERY liberal but there are a lot of very conservative people of faith there. Some are starting to wake up. Very lovely people (for the most part--we get the whole gamut). I live in LV which has 50/50 I'd say due to the mix of military, federal employees and the run of the mill liberals. I think a lot of folks just HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE NEWS that shit has hit the fan and we need to correct course. By the time some of them figure it out it might be too late for them. It is harder to see in the smaller towns but it is very definitely there. They just aren't paying attention. But the ones with uteruses are all up in arms about maybe needing to murder a baby so they are in a panic to vote (they believe this nonsense about how the men will all make it 100% illegal and take away birth control--too much TV man.) TOO MANY ANTI-DEPRESSANTS has them all dazed and confused. Which is why they have been so overprescribed, oversold, and all the bad things about them have been censored.
Trump won Johnson County in 2016, by 2.5% margin, so slim. He lost big in 2020 - by 8%. Sharice Davids beat Yoder in 2018. Definitely leaning blue now. But I agree about too many walking around asleep. I keep telling people crap is going to hit the fan next year sometime before the election. Of course my friends/circle agree, but the more casual friends/acquaintances look at me like I am nuts. I am in a KC suburb. Used to think it was solid red, Biden only won 3 precincts in 2020. But they keep adding more and more apartments and that does not bode well for 2024, although renters are somewhat less likely to vote.
Woke social contagion spreads fastest on the internet.. Social apps like FaceCrook- Faceporn are the worst.. we have to minimize time on the net... and we must know what they are looking at...
Yes, I am curious too! I live in MO, a mostly red state and our public schools are not much better. Much of this rot is coming from the dept of Education (on Jeff's chain saw list from yesterday) and from the woke indoctrinated products of today's putrid higher ed system.
I’m wondering if any parents have considered auditing (sit in the back of the room and observe) their children’s classes. That might be interesting.
Some of my friends did just that while classes were virtual during the scamdemic. They are now either homeschooling or have their kids in private Christian schools. I would do the same if mine were not grown. All were shocked at just how bad it was given that we are in a pretty conservative suburban district that is unfortunately led by a woke school board and administration. We are in year 3 of the fight to try to change the board, but sadly only 3 of 7 seats so far. Two more leftists up for re-election next year. Praying we can get 2 more conservatives elected. Even though mine are grown, I am in the fight as so goes the schools, goes the community. Too many conservatives don't pay attention to local elections, which are held separately in April from the higher profile August primary and November general elections. But the leftists vote in greater numbers in April. Biden only won 3 precincts in our city in 2020 but the left prevails in local. It's a tough fight, and sadly, it shouldn't be.
God bless Donna, and best wishes.
I pulled my kids rather than fight them (though I have led several successful civic fights on other issues in the past) as I wasn't willing to leave my kids in a corrupt system while hoping to change it. It takes years and years to turn a school system around assuming the fight is ultimately successful. During those years the kids continue to be indoctrinated. I wasn't willing to pay that price with my kids.
The double-edged sword is that once one pulls their kids from the system, then one loses leverage to change it. Complaints are met with, "what do you care? You don't even have kids in the school". And they have a point that is hard to rebut.
I don't know the answer but I do know protecting my kids is my highest priority and I will not leave them in such a degenerate environment. My only conclusion regarding those that do is that 1) they agree with it or 2) they don't care what their kids are taught or 3) they are too foolish, lazy, or self-centered to see what is going on. Why would I fight to save a school system for parents that fit any of these three mindsets? People say, "parents are busy, they don't know what's going on in schools". Well, whose fault is that? Why should any of us fight for parents that think chasing a career (or whatever they are into) is more important than their kids education? School is a babysitting institution for them so they can both work and not be bothered dealing with the kids.
It's a sad state of affairs as it doesn't bode well for the future. But my priority is my kids, not the kids of people who don't care. As far as I'm concerned the system can collapse and is not worth saving. The idea of kids being educated by the government was never going to end well so it's pretty obvious to see where this is heading.
Anyways, best wishes and thank you for fighting this. I'm sure it's a thankless task and a huge personal sacrifice.
Re: “Complaints are met with, "what do you care? You don't even have kids in the school". And they have a point that is hard to rebut.“
I’ve noticed for years that nearly all of the school board members in my school district do not have kids in school either. Some have no kids at all. The same is true for state PTA board members. They are almost always democrats with agendas to push. They view it as political office from which they can springboard from to even greater “public service”.
My long time observation indicates the problem began when the federal government forced bussing. Rather than send their children to another school way across town, often in sketchy areas, parents who had the means sent them to private schools in their own neighborhoods.
That took care of it for them, but it took a big chunk of brain power and resources away from public schools.
Nothing good has happened in public education since then.
And yes, an apparent majority of black teachers, staff and personnel in the schools where I worked had their own children in private schools. They were very proud of that and happy to talk about it. There are plentiful scholarships for certain groups for private school payments.
Oh I know - I have knocked over 1000 doors the past 3 years and I get that - do YOU have kids in the district?! Of course I say no, I am 58, and not a good liar. But I care about the future and our community. That used to be a very family oriented cohesive conservative community in the 90's and 2000's. I hate that the left has turned the focus away from academic excellence to 'belonging' (the new DEI term). I know a lot who have moved, but the left just won 3 seats on a school board in a district just south of us that Trump won by 30 points in 2020. Not paying attention IS NOT an option any more. The left plays the long game.
I am serving as a community member on the Comprehensive Facilities Master Plan team (they are getting ready to roll out a bond issue in 2025) and while touring an elementary school, I was standing in a hallway while the group leader was droning on, I was reading the 5th grade student essays in the hallway. The grammar and spelling of about half of them was atrocious! I would yank that down and make my kid re-do it if it was one of mine. Mine are 28 and 30 and while I was starting to have issues by the time they hit HS, figured we'd ride it out at that point. Pre much social media and everyone else I mentioned my concerns to shrugged it off. But I did start attending occasional board meetings. Things really accelerated when our mostly naïve but well intentioned board members hired a super woke race baiting superintendent in 2017 and it's been downhill ever since. One conservative board member has yanked her kids from the district, with much criticism. That tells you all you need to know.
Same! We have been having the same battle here in KS. The lefties embedded in the school board are not only unbeliveably arrogant but incredibly stupid as well. Super frustrating that others just keep voting without looking.
I know, really sobering that ALL the conservative candidates lost in Joco in November - Blue Valley, Shawnee Mission and Olathe. 19% turnout. Think JoCo is getting way too infiltrated from KC refugees.
No JOCO is white liberal woman central are you kidding?? Those people think their excrement don't stink and all have BLM and Love is Love etc signs in their yards. I work in Wyandotte which is VERY liberal but there are a lot of very conservative people of faith there. Some are starting to wake up. Very lovely people (for the most part--we get the whole gamut). I live in LV which has 50/50 I'd say due to the mix of military, federal employees and the run of the mill liberals. I think a lot of folks just HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE NEWS that shit has hit the fan and we need to correct course. By the time some of them figure it out it might be too late for them. It is harder to see in the smaller towns but it is very definitely there. They just aren't paying attention. But the ones with uteruses are all up in arms about maybe needing to murder a baby so they are in a panic to vote (they believe this nonsense about how the men will all make it 100% illegal and take away birth control--too much TV man.) TOO MANY ANTI-DEPRESSANTS has them all dazed and confused. Which is why they have been so overprescribed, oversold, and all the bad things about them have been censored.
Trump won Johnson County in 2016, by 2.5% margin, so slim. He lost big in 2020 - by 8%. Sharice Davids beat Yoder in 2018. Definitely leaning blue now. But I agree about too many walking around asleep. I keep telling people crap is going to hit the fan next year sometime before the election. Of course my friends/circle agree, but the more casual friends/acquaintances look at me like I am nuts. I am in a KC suburb. Used to think it was solid red, Biden only won 3 precincts in 2020. But they keep adding more and more apartments and that does not bode well for 2024, although renters are somewhat less likely to vote.
The fight for those 2 additional school board seats is well worth it. Stay strong, for the kids....
In my small, conservative town, the public schools don’t let parents into the classroom.
“...the public schools don’t let parents into the classroom.” Hard pass!
What? Why? Don't any parents demand a reason?
Some do, some don’t. But even if you ask why and they tell you the reason (“It’s disruptive for the class” or whatever) it doesn’t change anything.
You are exactly right. Most of it comes from the fed edu dept.
Woke social contagion spreads fastest on the internet.. Social apps like FaceCrook- Faceporn are the worst.. we have to minimize time on the net... and we must know what they are looking at...